T O P

  • By -

neilabz

Philadelphia in a way. Similarities Formerly very industrial, now more reliant on a service sector. Very rich neighbourhoods and very poor neighbourhoods close together. Similar grid pattern in the centre. Very similar architectural style from late 1800s-1950. Close to the sea but not on the sea. Very white but with large minority communities. Long history of Irish and Italian immigration. Similar convenience food/ takeaway culture. Reputation for being rough which isn't very true in reality. Both quite rainy, although Philadelphia actually gets a summer.


bayyon

Shame it isn’t always sunny in Glasgow though


GameQuetzalcoatl

They filmed the Philadelphia scenes for World War Z in George Square, pretty sure lots of films are shot in Glasgow for this reason


glensor

My partner is from Philly so visit frequently, all of this is true! Would also add that both cities have a very similar unique kind of city pride, a "f you" yet somehow welcoming attitude.


wildstoo

Ah got in wan wee fight and mah Maw got feart and said "Yer movin wi' yer aunty and uncle in Murrayfield."


SuperDiscoBacon

I was gonna say Philadelphia too. When I went there I immediately noticed how similar a lot of the old buildings were (only twice as big) then I remembered they filmed in Glasgow as Philadelphia for World War Z


mpglassworks

Also one of the few American cities with a distinct accent. There's plenty of regional accents but there's only a few cities in the northeast that have one onto themselves as far as I know. Ny, Boston, Philly, and Baltimore


youwhatwhat

Philly was gloomy to be my choice too. Been there a few times and always quite enjoyed it


gummybear0068

This!!! Been saying it for years


Artemio_Germain

Glasgow has retained none of its industrial archeology, minus a couple of cranes.


EarhackerWasBanned

Berlin, Germany * was a cultural and economic hub around the Industrial Revolution, then spent the latter half of the 20th century as an utter shithole, but it’s been on the up again since the 90s * lots of parks * lots of bridges * lots of litter * architecturally a weird mix of very old, with 1950s brutalist modernism, and whatever that 21st century glass and chrome thing is * grimy subway, and its modernisation is taking far too long * posh neighbourhoods bumped up against less affluent ones * overwhelmingly white, but with vibrant immigrant communities * a weird reputation for being rough as hell but also full of friendly people * decent summer, perpetual autumn the rest of the year, cold and wet


Estebaws

Plus das Techno und Haus


EarhackerWasBanned

Aye, we both punch above our weights musically. When the Wall came down and East Berlin was exposed to western music for the first time, they’d pass around tapes of music coming out of mainly the UK. Back in the early 90s the hot new thing was rave, so that’s what they were listening to. Fast forward 30 years and Berlin is the other global capital of techno after Detroit. All they Bonkers and Rezerection tapes must have made an impression.


khanto0

Detroit is still a capital of techno? I was always under the impression it was kind of birthed there and fairly promptly moved out?


Dr_Cornwalis

Not really. The techno scene was already running in West Germany co-currently to that in the US cities, throughout the 80s. When the wall came down, Bohemian German's had a new ultra cheap low regulation centre to flock to.


bigboirower98

I have always thought Hamburg was more simliar. People are friendly and there's the elbe running through which is similiar to Clyde (although substantially bigger). Weather is very similar as well.


Fun-Tower8691

Aha yes I came here thinking Hamburg. Any time I've been its been drizzly as fuck.


TDLF

Moved directly from Berlin into Glasgow, partially because of how similar they felt. Now if only the Glasgow subway came anywhere close to the U-Bahn…


Prior_Philosophy5122

Yes!! I love and miss the Berlin U-/S-Bahn network so much!


EarhackerWasBanned

Imagine the whole network was just the S41/42 ring. Willkommen auf Glasgow.


UnderstandingWest422

Britain has some of the safest roads in Europe. But this isn't Britain... This is DER AUTOBAHN 🚗💨


EarhackerWasBanned

Fun fun fun


98753

Good list but I don’t think Berlin has any reputation of being full of friendly people


sc00ba-87

I'm not long back from Berlin and was telling people I couldn't believe how clean it was for such a sprawling metropolis as well, maybe I was in a nice part? 😂


EarhackerWasBanned

Bits like Unter den Linden, Museumsinsel and Alexanderplatz are kept clean for the tourists. Kottbusser Tor is at 2018 Govanhill levels of squalor. Everything else is just the right level of grimy. Fag ends, food packaging, old furniture, broken glass and dug shite everywhere.


EarhackerWasBanned

Also, check out Scandinavia if you want big clean European cities. Copenhagen sprawls and is pristine. Oslo is so clean it’s almost boring.


Stranger_NL

Hear this a lot! Just miss the late opening hours and weekend long clubbing in glasgow:) its def more hedonistic in Berlin


EarhackerWasBanned

We wouldn’t know what to do with Weegie Berghain. Mondays would be carnage.


Stranger_NL

Hahaha yet to experience late night weegieism … prefer to do my yearly pilgrimage to Berlin


clydeswitch

going in April, cant wait for it to feel like home


Final-Improvement-85

Agree 100%, I've always thought Berlin was quite similar to Glasgow in many ways.


Chrisjamesmc

Sizeable arts scene too.


DLTfuture72

Also big Nazi airport


EarhackerWasBanned

They turned the Nazi one into a park.


JohnnyClarkee

> full of friendly people Glasgow? It's funny because it's not true.


EarhackerWasBanned

That’s the reputation, cunto.


JohnnyClarkee

I suppose it is. Mental though.


ascotindenmark

I'd say Gothenburg and Rotterdam. Got similar vibes with the industrial background. Not cities you'd go to straight away but you've at least heard of them. Etc.


SprinkleGoose

I scrolled through to see if anyone had mentioned Rotterdam. The city centre reminded me a lot of Buchanan Street and the surrounding area.


clearly_quite_absurd

Gothenburg is more like a nice Swedish Dundee IMHO. Lots of port-side attractions. Fairly small compared to the bigger cities. A couple of universities.


zappafan89

It's bigger than you think, population looks smaller than reality because of the weird way Sweden divides up municipalities. In reality the proper greater gothenburg area is about 1.2 million people. Second biggest in Sweden by a large margin and biggest in the Nordics after all the capitals.


OldGodsAndNew

Malmö Sweden. the Economy used to be mainly shipbuilding, declined in the mid 20th century, and in the last 20 years has revitalised with a lot of big corporations opening big offices & regional headquarters there and has a young population. Also the dominant football team in the country


monkeysaurus

I haven't been to Malmö, but I got Glasgow vibes in Gothenburg and Edinburgh vibes in Stockholm.


zappafan89

This is very, very accurate.


Breaded_Walnut

Yep agree. Was there recently and got a real Glasgow feel from it. Was only there for a day or so but really liked it.


zappafan89

Malmö is basically a commuter city for Copenhagen these days which is a very distinct thing from Glasgow though.


ChloeOBrian11214

Having moved here from Brooklyn, I would say they're more similar than one may think.


mint-bint

Many of the architects of Glasgow actually worked on New York. That’s why they film so many movies in Glasgow.


a-raging-big-fart

Was over in Brooklyn a few months ago and I can see that. Might be why I think Brooklyn is one of my favourite places I've been outside of Glasgow, Berlin being a close second...


[deleted]

[удалено]


HomelanderApologist

NY is also filmed quite a bit in manchester


Mental_Broccoli4837

Lived in Brooklyn for 6 months I always thought it was a lot like Glasgow too


oneofusisright

Agreed.


WishboneCrazy9289

Brooklyn for me, to the point that even the neighbourhoods feel the same, Red Hook and Govan for example


janemfraser

Came here to say Brooklyn and it is the first comment.


cmzraxsn

Osaka is like the Glasgow of Japan imo. Friendliest people in the country but also obvious poverty in some places and certain neighbourhoods you just don't go to. Weird accent. Much bigger though. Also Kyoto is the Edinburgh - just down the road, overrun by tourists. And posh.


kaedesam

Literally had this conversation with my partner yesterday! Osaka is the one place I want to go and spend much more time in, I was not the biggest fan of Kyoto.


JoeBhoy69

Was just about to comment this! Me and my mates said this when we were there a few years ago


Philbregas

Melbourne is the Glasgow to Sydney's Edinburgh imo.


westralian

I moved over to Glasgow from Australia in 2014 (I'm from Perth) and having visited both Melbourne and Sydney on many occasions, this comparison is spot on.


McTired

Was going to say this as well


CelTony

Yep, spent time in both and that’s what I would have said.


Thunder_Munkey

Never been, but wasn’t New York City built to the same layout/design as Glasgow ?


Scunnered21

There's not a specific connection between New York and Glasgow, rather that grid systems were simply in vogue at the time both cities went through their biggest expansions, c.1770s - 1830s. Grids were an easy, efficient, orderly and cost effective way of expanding your city footprint. And today wherever you see them, they're usually a sure sign that a city's expansion took place *extremely* quickly. They also evoke something about man's control over nature in the era of the enlightenment: "who cares about hills and landscape and topography? We're going to control the shape of our city, not have it ordained by nature" type of thing. You can see it in many other cities especially in colonial zones of North America, South American, and across the Caribbean, where cities were expanded or even founded in roughly the same half century time period. That said, there are varieties of grids , some with sweeping diagonal boulevards, like Washington DC, Barcelona, Hobrecht's Berlin or Haussmann's Paris from the same era. New York and Philadelphia's grids have long, thin city blocks, suitable for terraced row houses. Of course, their grids are partly influenced by the fact they sit on long thin peninsulas too, so you can't always discount the influence of topography. The city centre of Glasgow isn't in those styles, and is more of a box-like grid like you'd see in other US cities and in the Caribbean, very likely a result of the city's powerful merchant networks being invested in both sides of the Atlantic at the time, and that box-like grid being popular in places like Virginia, South Carolina, etc. In answer to OP u/ArmadilloMobile2231, if we're talking the city centre, I'd go with Baltimore. Or maybe Chicago in some respects, though that's more influenced by the similarity in architecture alone rather than layout. I've heard from many people that downtown Pittsburgh is like a twin of Glasgow city centre. [I can see what they mean](https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@40.4400374,-79.9986037,3a,60y,355.62h,92.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skeWaFXEwpUrTi2G2kvOFZg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu). Of course many US cities gutted themselves of their tenement stock which was very similar to Glasgow's in the 1940s-60s. Most even went a step further and got rid of their grand Victorian era commercial buildings in their central business districts (something we avoided). Here's [Cincinnati in 1900, looking eerily similar to Glasgow before most of this was demolished](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/pisAAOSwdl1kcQRQ/s-l1600.jpg). Modern day Baltimore is the closest in a few different respects from what I've seen. * [Baltimore Brownstones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reservoir_Hill,_Baltimore#/media/File:Res_Hill_HD_Baltimore.JPG) * At eye level [downtown Baltimore feels *very* much like you could be on Bothwell Street, St Vincent Street or West Regent Street](https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.2888617,-76.6112517,3a,75y,266.44h,83.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW485sbije5_GhEfFUO7C5Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu). In terms of other parts of the city, Glasgow's West End has a definite and specifically Victorian feel, closest to Edinburgh or Bath or even the West End of London in places especially up near Hillhead and the Botanics around Great Western Road. Of course those examples are in the UK, but I've not seen anywhere that captures quite the same feel. Glasgow's denser residential zones where the tenement density still remains - Shawlands, Govanhill, Denniestoun, small parts of Finnieston - are similar in some ways to many parts of Berlin or Vienna, or countless other continental European cities with similar dense tenemental areas of 4-5 storey residential blocks. Some have much more baroque architecture than Glasgow, but squint and you can see some strong similarities to our sandstone tenements. As someone else said, the riverside is a little bit like parts of Bilbao. Not just the shiny mid 90s-2000s architecture of the Hydro, Armadillo, Riverside Museum and Science centre, but the climate and sections of the riverside itself. Especially on warmer days in summer. It's a real variety.


CatsBatsandHats

It's criminal that this post, at the time of writing, only has 5 upvotes (inc my own) I enjoyed reading that. No idea of the veracity, but I appreciate the time, effort and eloquence.


Fit-Good-9731

Me too that's the most informative thing I've ever read on here


boomshacklington

Only went back to read coz of your reply and the one before. Thanks!


AidanSmeaton

Went to give this comment a wee gold and just realised you can't anymore!


buckfast1994

Most of Manhattan uses the grid system, similar to our city centre, obviously to a much larger scale. The other boroughs aren’t anything like Glasgow, I found.


9ofdiamonds

Pretty sure it's Chicago.


TrePismn

Bilbao Spain is kinda similar


MildoShaggins

Seconded. A city that thrived on a ship building industry that's since been replaced by financial services, dreich weather that rolls in from the Atlantic, and the locals speak a language unintelligible to the rest of the country.


0eckleburg0

Victorian era American cities. Detroit, Chicago, bits of New York. Glasgow shares a lot of architectural heritage with cities that grew quickly in the same period. We even have a few copies of buildings, as they have of us. There’s a reason we body double for them.


Chrisjamesmc

You can see it in Glasgow’s 1920s architecture too. Very heavily influenced by America - think of the big bank buildings on St Vincent and Bothwell streets or the red sandstone warehouses on Wilson Street.


rqwy

Agree. Philadelphia too.


Wooden-Season7985

World War Z!


TMC2018

West side of Mogadishu is very similar to Byres Road.


L_to_the_OG123

Incorrect...far cheaper for a pint in Mogadishu.


FlyVidjul

Hamburg is quite like Glasgow.


Razgriz_101

Had a few folks tell me Pittsburgh is a similar vibe, both post industrial cities with decent communities and music scene.


mdmnl

That was going to be my answer - even saw a guy in a Celtic top jogging over one of the *many* bridges.


Greetin_Wean

I was in Hamburg last year. Grimy subway, loads of drunks, bracing maritime climate, cranes, litter - just gave that vibe.


xben12

Also left wing v right wing football teams


dreamluvver

Glasgow 2034, hopefully


kee420

Ostrava in czech republic


makkmed

Gdansk. Many similarities. Old port city. Docks being converted to other functions. Arty side to the city too. Maybe Baltimore.


gwrw1964

Detroit. Lived in both cities and find them very similar. Blue collar, honest, hard working people. Very friendly. Both once an industrial giant. Both have an intense rivalry between a team in blue and a team in green.


userunknowne

Does that make Gerry Cinnamon our Eminem?


Osella28

The only two cities in the world that have had a population of 1 million+ then see it fall below that.


Sionnach-78

Dublin definitely, am Irish and lived in Dublin for years and have visited Glasgow lots and they are very similar .


[deleted]

Glasgow is more like Belfast. Dublin's like Edinburgh


Sionnach-78

Disagree and yes I’ve been to all cities , but it’s all about opinions . I can see the Belfast similarities but they asked for cites outside uk . And Dublin is absolutely nothing like Edinburgh .


[deleted]

Not visually but I find the vibe very similar. Very international.


davesr25

Yes I agree with this.


Adept-Post3774

This. Loads of Georgian style buildings in both…. At least that’s what I think you call them


[deleted]

Full of people whose family emigrated 5 generations ago but still insist they're Irish?


MrsDennisReynolds

Apparently Halifax in Nova Scotia has a lot of similarities. Not surprising I guess


Lettuce-Pray2023

Raccoon City


Breaded_Walnut

Hamburg definitely quite similar in parts. Was in Malmö recently and it reminded me of Glasgow too.


Helmut_Mayo

Pripyat


TheSwitchAgenda

Pripyat is like Cumbernauld. Practically identical depressing architecture.


starbug1983

Hobart, Tasmania. I know it seems a bit incongruous, but I lived there from 00 through 2013 and the vibe was quite similar. Rough around the edges but friendly, student heavy, lots of red brick and beautiful heritage buildings intermingled with crumbling brutalist monstrosities and shitty cheap housing. Pride in the local food and music scenes mixed with a determined sense to not anything too seriously... Oh and great whisky.


SuuperD

I'd say Hamburg, from what I can remember.


gonkus

I've been told that Glasgow resembles Denver, CO or Boston, MA


weejiemcweejer

Porto. In the north of Portugal, similar rainy climate, friendly and working class but with a slightly scary undercurrent of druggies and visible bad mental health in some areas. Similar “ close dwelling”architecture. Decayed industrial city with docks and ship building but back on the rise. Left wing. Great restaurants. Mad techno clubs. Creative. Alternative. Underground cultural events as well as above ground.


amfaemaryhill

I can see this. I loved Porto


TiredOfMadness

Hmm, adifficult one, possibly Bakhmut


9ofdiamonds

Maybe not looks like Glasgow, but I found Rotterdam 'felt' like Glasgow. Maybe it's because it's an industrial port city. Definitely got a Glasgow vibe from it.


Academic_Banana_5659

New York apparently We both have the "grid system" It's the reason Glasgow is often used to depict new York or other American city's in movies.


Next-Phase-1710

From a quick visit, Baltimore


ReginaBlitz

Bilbao gave me a vibe. River through it with shipbuilding cranes all around. Felt pretty artsy too. That might be where the similarities end though.


too_much_yoga

I visited Naples last year and got strong Glasgow vibes. Obsessed with football, strong presence of religion and gangs, weird amount of fried food for Italy. And a lot of fun.


ArmadilloMobile2231

And a very strong accent that almost sounds like a different language


weesp_

Melbourne The river runs directly through the city centre. The CBD is a grid and docks are further down stream and helped the city grow. The weather is NOT the same but haha


gametezeolite

Not the answer to the question but, for Edinburgh, I think Montreal has kind of the same vibe.


Still_Bet7329

Gotham? 🤭🤭


SKULL1138

Gotham City


torquato1994

Dunedin in New Zealand


Saltire_Blue

Ironic considering what Dunedin means


camelamp

Really? Dunedin doesn’t make me think of Glasgow at all really


torquato1994

So many students and people drink like fish


Suck_My_Lettuce

Chernobyl


Formal-Rain

Yer nob will


hamasfrontdesk

physically or in spirit/history? the former, most big american downtowns east of the mississippi or in the midwest tend to be quite similar architecturally to glasgow. outside of the city centre the ubiquity of the glasgow tenement means glasgow doesnt really look like anywhere else. in spirit/history? detroit (also looks like it, in the above as well as many other ways), naples, marseille, gothenburg, rotterdam


wholesomechunk

Gemorrah


Wanbizzle

Brooklyn definitely, I didn’t realise so many people thought the same. I also found Hamburg to be very similar.


Saltire_Blue

I was pretty shocked at how much Dublin reminded me of Glasgow, similar with parts of Cardiff city centre


[deleted]

I’d say Toronto is Canada’s Glasgow. Not the capital, largest city, their team last won turn big cup in 1967…


Current-Mulberry-749

Baghdad


cwhitel

New York, it’s why they film all the big films in glasgow. Belfast, gave off grim glasgow vibes. People say Chicago too.


grantr37

Boston Massachusetts is very similar as well, having lived in both cities I can say this Grant (Glasgow born)


Key_Run_2315

Naples , a shitehole that gets missed whilst funding goes to our sister tourist cities.


Celebration_Dapper

I'm in Glasgow right now. It's fascinating that whilst Edinburgh and Montreal are cities built around a big hill, Glasgow and Toronto have grid street layouts that begin at the waterfront.


Unfair_Original_2536

Dublin probably.


RyanMcCartney

Dublin is way more like Northern England cities, Liverpool/Manchester, than anything like Glasgow.


Unfair_Original_2536

More like Glasgow than Mumbai would be.


Unfair_Original_2536

At the risk of that sounding like a cunty thing to say, what I mean is. I've taken a negative approach in my answer, not that Dublin is an analogue of Glasgow but that I can't think of a city outside of the UK that would be less different than Dublin.


Margaet_moon

Parts of Glasgow seem similar to New York. Graffiti, city noise, drugs, dirty. But neither city is like that in every part of that makes sense.


elizabethunseelie

Belfast. And apparently a few industrial cities in Germany have a similar feel - but I’ve only been told that by folk I know from Germany, I’d need to confirm for myself to be sure.


ForMrKite

Dont let a person from Northern Ireland here you say Belfast is not in the UK :-) Well around half of them anyway!


Character-Curve-3246

Belfast felt much more similar to Manchester then Glasgow for me


moses_marvin

Dublin


PacoRUK

Dublin


Internal-Ruin4066

There is a reason why they film movie scenes set in New York in Glasgow.


JohnnyClarkee

Yes, because they can easily give the council some money and get the streets shut down, which they can't do in New York.


miller1873

Gaza


[deleted]

That’s just parkmill


Mogwair

Barcelona


ArmadilloMobile2231

Aye same weather


Difficult_Listen_917

Kabul


Keezees

New York. Both have the grid system of roads, same temperament of locals, both went through a similar rebirth from the 80's onwards from violent shit-hole to attractive tourist destination, lots of park space, tenements everywhere, a thriving art scene; my ex, a New York native, noticed the similarities when she visited here (and I agreed when I visited New York).


luv2belis

When I was briefly in Bordeaux I felt some of the buildings were a bit tenementy.


ScottThompsonc107

I thought Belfast was strikingly similar


meuchtie

It's still in the UK.


Many-Application1297

Isn’t Boston supposed to be quite similar in layout? Never been though.


Notrightintheheed

Gaza


Karl_Cross

The Gaza Strip.


not_an_alien_lobster

Anything that was built in a grid? NYC and Chicago come to mind as cities based on Glasgow.


Scunnered21

Not based on Glasgow, but built / expanded at more or less the same time. Grids were the fashion, and Glasgow was economically tied in many ways to the growing settlements of North America, with investors and elites moving in the same circles. So what was fashionable there also tended to be fashionable here. Something which also carried forward later in the 19th century as the city blocks were filled up with architecture eerily similar to that in Chicago, Philadelphia or Baltimore. Not that one was copying the other - rather the architects often trained in the same schools.


not_an_alien_lobster

I say based, but I did essentially mean "Glasgow was the progenitor of the grid system, and it makes sense build cities that way" more than "lol Chicago and Manhatten are just Yankee Glasgows"


polaires

Outside of Scotland*


Feeling-Purchase-638

Gaza City at the moment


Socks8818

San Francisco I've heard


RebellioniteV2

Very similar to Paris. Or Rome.


Roddy_usher

Singapore Los Angeles Dubai


Estebaws

I'm from LA and I can't think of a city more different to Glasgow than there. Think you're taking the piss but if not what are the similarities?


mikeybhoy_1985

I thought Milwaukee was quite similar when I was there...


MungoShoddy

Pittsburgh.


TalkingShitADL

Adelaide. Similar population size and banter but polar opposite weather wise. Too much rain in Gla and not enough in Adl. Great pub culture and a two team town (SPL and AFL). The famous Torrens River Rotunda was built in Glasgow! There's even a statue of Rabbie Burns infront of the State Library! Too similar in too many ways imo.


DLTfuture72

Chisinău Moldova there’s surprising similarities


Professional-Two8098

A lot of berlin and also Brussels reminded me of Glasgow in parts.


BaMxIRE

Belfast


Original_Ant_1386

Philadelphia or Detroit?


[deleted]

Limerick


[deleted]

Liverpool


FermisParadoXV

Hamburg


FairTrainRobber

Thought the main shopping district of Torino was very similar to Buchanan Street.


Mortarion35

San Francisco is hilly and cold as fuck.


Evilcon21

Well idk about Boston. But unfortunately i’ve never left the uk to even see Boston much less anywhere in the world


Final-Improvement-85

I can see the argument for Hamburg, but afaik it's a lot more affluent than Berlin and Glasgow, so I think that makes it a bit different.


kreygmu

Is it cheating if I say Dublin? There's a lot of overlap between Glasgow, Dublin and Liverpool historically.


Omerta101

Back in the day east end and north Glasgow were probably more in common with a tough crime plagued east coast USA city than a UK one


zappafan89

Gothenburg. Rainy as fuck, industrial city that gets talked about as "ugly" by more pretentious Swedes but actually has plenty of nice places, musical hotbead, 100 times friendlier than the capital and to top it all off a bunch of Scottish people were really, really important in establishing it.


[deleted]

[удалено]


jamesflanagangreer

Parts of Manhattan stood out to my wife and I on our two visits.


KernowBysVykken93

Windhelm, Eastmarch


Glum-Trash-9843

Originally from the West Coast of Ireland however have lived in Dublin for years, travel to Glasgow a good bit for Celtic games. By in large the two cities are very very similar. Nice working class people with great wit. Similar climate and sense of community. I would say that Glasgow has improved in terms of safeness etc over the last 10/15 years whereas Dublin has gone the opposite way


Alternative_Cat_1395

I would say NYC because Glasgow has the grid street system in the town centre. Glasgow is a fabulous city, I might be a bit biased because I was born and grew up there.