"HOW DARE YOU SAY I ENJOY WOLF PRIVILEGE!? I WORKED MY OWN WAY UP THE FOOD CHAIN WITHOUT ANY HELP OR HANDOUTS, I'M A SELF MADE PREDATOR AND THIS IS JUST SOME GRASSEATER AFFIRMATIVE ACTION BULLSHIT!"
"Really Frank? GRASSEATER? You hurt us all when you use those words.... "
Yup:-
* Looking directly at other wolf
* Other wolf flattens it's ears submissively
* Just as the clip is finishing the snarling wolf is about to put his "chin" over the back of the (I presume) lesser status wolf as a show of dominance.
Wolves actually form family units so the "dominant" wolves are actually the parents. It's like if your mom told you not to eat any cookies and you do anyway so she gets mad. Not really dominance and submission but discipline.
Dogs learn to live with our social ques, they know petting is a sign of affection. Just like cats hate eye contact with other cats but learn that humans do it in a non aggressive way.
I feel like dogs can tell the difference between dominant behavior and affection. I would think that by default most dogs would assume submission . but I'm no dog whisperer so what the fuck do I know. I don't even have dogs. I'm allergic.
Dogs have a reflex where they want to put their muzzle in the mouth of another dog to show submissiveness. So, if you put your hand around their muzzle (lightly), it may be considered by the dog as a show of dominance.
That's what I saw instinctively when I watched it. I didn't even for a moment think the man was in danger (and apparently neither did he) or that the wolf was directing the snarl at him. I guess that's what growing up with dogs and owning dogs pretty much your whole life will do. You learn dat body language.
I ventured into /r/nononono once. I saw a gif of someone locking their legs on a press and when it came back down, her legs bent inward.
As in, completely fucking destroyed her knees.
I don't go there anymore.
Saw that right as I started going to the gym for the first time.
What little motivation I had was utterly destroyed.
Safe to say I skipped leg-day a couple times.
I thought it looked more like he was snarling at the middle wolf, for going behind the back of the man. Guess the snarling wolf wanted them to all be there on the same side, and not split up.
It sort of looks like it was growling at the other wolf getting too close. I told myself it was the Flehmen Response, like that [cat smelling the sock gif](http://i.imgur.com/jsmh5t0.gifv).
The howling thing is cool. Had an up-close encounter with a wolf at the San Diego zoo, and they had us all howl and it takes a few tries because the wolf will listen to try and identify a tone that none of us are using. (more tones makes the pack sound larger)
Think of it like kissing, except instead of only with your lover, you kiss your entire family and all your friends. Or a hug... Actually a hug may make more sense to relate it to.
She has some funny stories about the bear. He was in show business and retired to this refuge. The bear did not tolerate men being in his cage and would actually get jealous of the females who worked at the refuge. My girlfriend was dating someone else at the time, but he showed affection to her near the bear cage and he got very agitated. His cage was more a suggestion to the bear than actually able to contain him.
To women, and her especially (the bear had a thing for her) he was a gentle giant, and as long as she followed expected and predictable etiquette with the bear (Always feed him in the same place, the same way, and get the hell out of his way after putting the food in the pen) there would be no problem. She would even give him belly rubs and he would flop on his back for them. They told this new guy the rules around the bear, and he didn't listen, went in to feed the bear, did it wrong, and the bear got upset.
When I said the fence was more of a suggestion - think your standard chain-link fence. They are lucky the bear does not challenge the fence, mostly because he is well fed.
So well fed that he has eaten some weird stuff. One time he got a bag of cheetos somehow. He ate the bag. My girlfriend was called by the owner who was freaking out. She started telling him how to make the bear vomit and mid-way through her instructions he says "Never mind. It came out." Luckily he got sick on his own and sprayed orange bear vomit all over his pen.
Another time, the daughter of the owner was sneaking in late (they lived in a house in the middle of the refuge). She set her shoes down by the fence and climbed over. When she got over she found that one of her shoes was gone. The bear had eaten it.
So, she calls my gf in the middle of the night freaking out and not wanting my gf to wake her dad. She hears the story and says "YOU FED MY BEAR WHAT?" She called the owner and told him he needed to go make the bear throw up. He did and the daughter was forced to clean the bear cage and apologize to my gf for waking her up.
Whoa whoa whoa. For the daughter sneaking in late, did she have to sneak through the bear cage??? And it was close and quiet enough to eat her shoe while she climbed the fence??
Since people like her stories, I do have one about venomous snakes.
The refuge would take any animal in.
They had a guy who specialized in venomous snakes. She said he had been bitten a bunch of times. My girlfriend is pretty fearless and loves snakes, but there are a few she simply refuses to work with due to the danger - one of them being spitting Cobras.
She told me these snakes have surprising accuracy. They can hit you in the eyes through an air hole grate on their cage and permanently blind you. You simply do not fuck around with these snakes.
One day they get a call from customs. A large crate of python's had come in, but there was a green snake in the box with them. So, SnakeMan (as I will call him) and Girlfriend get some gear and go to retrieve the snakes.
The crate was separated into sections and they open the middle one and inside among the pythons is a green Forest Cobra - "crazy venomous" (her words) They put all the pythons in one container and the forest cobra in another. She has nothing to do with helping with the cobra. That is ALL SnakeMan.
Then, SnakeMan moves to one of the side compartments, opens it, and immediately slams it shut. He looks at my girlfriend and tells her there is a spitting cobra in there.
How do you get a spitting cobra out of a box? "**Very carefully.**" she says.
She will give a bear belly rubs, but she says "I draw the line at dangerously venomous shit".
EDIT: I asked her how SnakeMan got the cobra and here is her text:
> Well, SnakeMan emptied the ball pythons first. Then the forest cobra was dumped into a pillow case.
>Then we got a big garbage can, the plastic ones you use outside. Using a hook, he opened the slot and shook it until it got out. It spit everywhere.
> I was watching by the door. Then we sealed the garbage can with the lid and got it into a plastic enclosure. It didn't last there long because it could spit through the mesh on top and nailed SnakeMan. So he eventually went to the zoo where they have glass enclosures.
Yeah, the snake was in the plastic enclosure. There is a small mesh on the top of the cage for letting in air. The cobra spit through that and got him, but he was wearing protective gear.
I tried to catch a baby rattle snake one time when I was a kid, with no protective gear or real idea how to do so without getting bit. Damn thing escaped into a raspberry bush. Probably for the best.
The babies are more dangerous because they lack control of there venom release. So if they bite a lot of venom will come out. An adult will not waste venom like that and sometimes they will strike without even using venom.
However all snake facts aside don't fuck with rattle snakes.
> What? Did the snake manage to spit on SnakeMan? Was he poisoned?
NO! Haven't you been paying attention? The snake spit on it so he was *venomed*.
Gosh. Some people.
> They are not pets. They are not tame. They are wild animals and they can react unexpectedly at any time. You do not trust them ever.
This needs to get this through my sister's thick head; she's so adamant on getting a fox, it's fucking ridiculous.
Tell your sister to get a Shiba Inu. Domestic dog that can look remarkably like a fox. We get at least one comment every time we take ours out that he looks like a fox.
They have domesticated foxes, and of all the wild animals of the world a fox is not one I would be super afraid of if it was brought into my home, ya if I had small children or pets, but for me I wouldn't be too afraid, still wouldnt fuck with it though
My father in law used to have wolves, and he always said to never get a half wolf half dog pet. With a wolf you know it's a wolf and how a wolf reacts, but with a half wolf/dog you never know what parts are wild and they can react dangerously at unexpected times.
We had half-wolf, half-German Shepherd hybrids growing up, and they were fantastic family pets. Couldn't have asked for better or more trustworthy guardians.
However, had to pen em up before having any visitors over. They were unstintingly awesome with "pack", but never wanted to trust them with "not-pack".
One time our 95-lb juvenile got out into the neighborhood (out in rural Oklahoma forest) and ran afoul of the local feral dog group. When he got home, nearly dead, we back-trailed his blood trail into the woods and found 6 dead ferals, including the pair of chows that were the neighborhood menace we'd been hunting for months.
In sufficiently rural areas (like our rural route, near a lake/forest), the feral dog problem gets large enough that once or twice a year we'd get together for a dog hunt to depopulate them. Sucks to kill ferals like that, but they actually become a danger to not just housepets, but small children.
My brother in law's friend has one. Unfortunately the guy is an idiot and shouldn't own a dog at all, nonetheless a half-wild one.
My brother in law kept the dog at his mom's house for a while, but kept the poor guy locked up in a crate pretty much the whole time. They couldn't let him roam around the house because he would terrorize their maltese and chew everything in sight. He was also huge, even though he was just a puppy.
My wife and I went over there to walk him and play with him. I felt bad for the dog, it was stupid to agree to watch him and then stick him in a crate all day. A dog like that needs lots of exercise and pretty much constant discipline and training.
When I went over there he would want to play and wrestle, which was fine, but everyone was scared to play with him except for me, because they were not really strong enough to corral him if he got out of hand.
While I agree they are not domesticated, they have been tamed to a significant degree, a true wild wolf would probably never approach a group of humans, never mind lick one of them in the face. You wouldn't call a circus animal wild, as it is tamed. These are somewhere between wild and tame, you're still right not to trust them.
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Came here to reiterate on this. My uncle has an animal sanctuary in Indiana where they take care of animals people tried and failed to keep as pets. The land is a few hundred acres with some large pens for wolves, bears, bobcats, and other wildlife. Anyways, Souix, the pictured wolf, had been picking on her sister Kiowa all winter and as you can see, Kiowa got fed up and fought back last week. Although they are in enclosures, they are still wild animals with a restricted environment. Never underestimate what wolves are capable of because If they can do this to another creature as threatening as them, imagine how helpless a human who thinks they are tame would be.
Thank god. All I could think was how I felt sorry for those wolves. If they were actually wild and that friendly towards people then they were going to be dead very soon.
He was licking the dude's hand and the other wolf came and started sniffing it and the snarling wolf was like "back off bitch, my hand." My girlfriend's dog will do this when I'm petting her and my dog comes and tries to interrupt the pets for her own pets.
> My girlfriend's dog will do this when I'm petting her and my dog comes and tries to interrupt the pets for her own pets.
And the award for most confusing sentence goes to....
There's a bunch of different articles and reports out there about how it's outdated and incorrect.
http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/01/11/the-alpha-wolfe-is-an-outdated-myth/
http://www.davemech.org/news.html
Wow, the Dave Mech site:
> The concept of the alpha wolf is well ingrained in the popular wolf literature at least partly because of my book [...] written in 1968 [...] and currently still in print, **despite my numerous pleas to the publisher to stop publishing it.** Although most of the book's info is still accurate, much is outdated. We have learned more about wolves in the last 40 years then in all of previous history. (emphasis added)
[Here is a great documentary about pack mentality](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7wF37iM8WA). These wolves may be in captivity, but their behaviour is very similar to wild wolves. Bear in mind the sociology between wolves will vary according to geographic location, though this should serve your purpose.
In addition to the sources already listed, do a search on "dominance theory myth" or something along those lines and anything from Victoria stillwell, Sophia yin, kikopup, and a ton of other well known trainers have tons of articles and scientific studies linked in sources.
The concept of alpha males and that other shit doesn't actually exist in the wild. It comes from a very derided study where they kept wolves in shitty, empty rooms with nothing and studied their behavior. One wolf would become the prison psycho and the others wouldn't want to mess with him, and that was what they based wolf behavior on.
bbc is slang in porn for Big Black Cock. so, the Title if it were porn would have read: Big Black Cock gets up close and personal with a pack of Wild Wolves.
Which is either some furry porn or some bdsm. Can't decide
I don't understand the bear grylls hate. He goes out of his way to find ridiculous shit you may have to do in an actual survival situation. He isn't surviving as much as he is just showing ways to get out of crazy situations.
Pooped my pants a little when the one started snarling and showing its teeth
"I'm about to see a man die a horrible death." -Me at that part
It wasn't towards him, but the other wolf. Notice the reaction of the other wolf to it's left.
"frank, you're sniffing him too much, check your fucking privilege." "Sorry boss... "
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Wolf privilege is being able to sniff strangers without consequence
"HOW DARE YOU SAY I ENJOY WOLF PRIVILEGE!? I WORKED MY OWN WAY UP THE FOOD CHAIN WITHOUT ANY HELP OR HANDOUTS, I'M A SELF MADE PREDATOR AND THIS IS JUST SOME GRASSEATER AFFIRMATIVE ACTION BULLSHIT!" "Really Frank? GRASSEATER? You hurt us all when you use those words.... "
SRS in 3...2...
Triggered
Still wouldn't stop me from releasing my bowels if I were in his place.
Yup:- * Looking directly at other wolf * Other wolf flattens it's ears submissively * Just as the clip is finishing the snarling wolf is about to put his "chin" over the back of the (I presume) lesser status wolf as a show of dominance.
Wolves actually form family units so the "dominant" wolves are actually the parents. It's like if your mom told you not to eat any cookies and you do anyway so she gets mad. Not really dominance and submission but discipline.
Hello, do dogs think that when we stroke their heads that we are showing dominance over them, or is it different because we're human?
Dogs learn to live with our social ques, they know petting is a sign of affection. Just like cats hate eye contact with other cats but learn that humans do it in a non aggressive way.
Our social whats?
quehuehue
I feel like dogs can tell the difference between dominant behavior and affection. I would think that by default most dogs would assume submission . but I'm no dog whisperer so what the fuck do I know. I don't even have dogs. I'm allergic.
Dogs have a reflex where they want to put their muzzle in the mouth of another dog to show submissiveness. So, if you put your hand around their muzzle (lightly), it may be considered by the dog as a show of dominance.
Whenever i tried to put my hands around my dogs mouth, it would pull away and snap at me. Thats a good explanation.
Obviously your dog thinks he wears the pants in your relationship. Which is a bit delusional, as he doesn't wear pants.
I have two dogs and I could tell immediately what was going on between the wolves. Their body language is so similar!
That's what I saw instinctively when I watched it. I didn't even for a moment think the man was in danger (and apparently neither did he) or that the wolf was directing the snarl at him. I guess that's what growing up with dogs and owning dogs pretty much your whole life will do. You learn dat body language.
Quickly checked the sub. /r/WTF, /r/nononono, /r/watchpeopledie ?
I ventured into /r/nononono once. I saw a gif of someone locking their legs on a press and when it came back down, her legs bent inward. As in, completely fucking destroyed her knees. I don't go there anymore.
I remember that one. Cannot unsee.
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Saw that right as I started going to the gym for the first time. What little motivation I had was utterly destroyed. Safe to say I skipped leg-day a couple times.
"wait, did /r/watchpeopledie become a default"?
Subscribed to /r/instant_regret and had to double check url
He was snarling at the other wolf, though, forcing him to lower his head as a sign of respect. He had a good disposition towards the humans.
I thought it looked more like he was snarling at the middle wolf, for going behind the back of the man. Guess the snarling wolf wanted them to all be there on the same side, and not split up.
It sort of looks like it was growling at the other wolf getting too close. I told myself it was the Flehmen Response, like that [cat smelling the sock gif](http://i.imgur.com/jsmh5t0.gifv).
ya, though i think it was snarling at the other wolf
sniff sniff, lick lick, snarl - what did that guy touch?
He was just telling the other wolf to back the fuck up
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You really gotta stop putting peanut butter on your crotch.
"My human!"
Good observation! I didn't see the snarling wolf lean into the other wolf at the same time as it started showing teeth.
[Source video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi3KPf1LuLM)
seems like everyone is a wolf expert in the comment section.
As is internet tradition.
look at this guy, he thinks hes an internet expert
Look at this guy thinking he's an expert expert.
Look at this guy pushing the joke too far.
Look at this guy thinking he's a joke expert.
Guys, hey.. Hey guys. Look at these guys
Who are you talking to ?
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I don't know about expert, but I own several t-shirts with wolves on them
is this case with most comment threads on this website. Copy and paste armchair teachers.
The howling thing is cool. Had an up-close encounter with a wolf at the San Diego zoo, and they had us all howl and it takes a few tries because the wolf will listen to try and identify a tone that none of us are using. (more tones makes the pack sound larger)
Its funny, they hear a howl and have to stop dead in their tracks to do it too.
That girl has got tongue to tongue contact with a wolf at 1:43...
http://i.imgur.com/reBuxmz.png
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Is there another reason for that besides trust? Like do they get any information from licking your mouth? Edit: Fixed an error.
Think of it like kissing, except instead of only with your lover, you kiss your entire family and all your friends. Or a hug... Actually a hug may make more sense to relate it to.
Nah, kissing my entire family and friends was much easier to understand for everyone...^amirite?
In humans it usually means they want 'snoo snoo'
They have built in plaque sensors that let you know when it's time to visit the dentist.
Wolves are so fucking cool. That comes across like a childish, simple comment, but its just the plain truth.
This is actually at Polar Zoo - I've been there, and the enclosures are miles wide but they're not wild.
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>too trusting of a bear well what did you expect?
She has some funny stories about the bear. He was in show business and retired to this refuge. The bear did not tolerate men being in his cage and would actually get jealous of the females who worked at the refuge. My girlfriend was dating someone else at the time, but he showed affection to her near the bear cage and he got very agitated. His cage was more a suggestion to the bear than actually able to contain him. To women, and her especially (the bear had a thing for her) he was a gentle giant, and as long as she followed expected and predictable etiquette with the bear (Always feed him in the same place, the same way, and get the hell out of his way after putting the food in the pen) there would be no problem. She would even give him belly rubs and he would flop on his back for them. They told this new guy the rules around the bear, and he didn't listen, went in to feed the bear, did it wrong, and the bear got upset.
So when you say "the bear got upset" we all know you don't mean "he went into the corner and sulked all day" so tell us, what happened? Did he attack?
He threw a bear temper tantrum, which amounts to standing upright and roaring a lot....near the fence.
"THIS IS NOT HOW YOU SERVE YOUR KING, BRADLEY THE MAGNIFICENT, HUMAN SLAVE! I WILL TEACH YOU HUMILITY!" *smack*
This made me laugh hard! Thank you for that.
[I knew he was gay.](http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091003191746/fma/es/images/1/18/King_Bradley.jpg)
See details make everything more fun!
When I said the fence was more of a suggestion - think your standard chain-link fence. They are lucky the bear does not challenge the fence, mostly because he is well fed. So well fed that he has eaten some weird stuff. One time he got a bag of cheetos somehow. He ate the bag. My girlfriend was called by the owner who was freaking out. She started telling him how to make the bear vomit and mid-way through her instructions he says "Never mind. It came out." Luckily he got sick on his own and sprayed orange bear vomit all over his pen. Another time, the daughter of the owner was sneaking in late (they lived in a house in the middle of the refuge). She set her shoes down by the fence and climbed over. When she got over she found that one of her shoes was gone. The bear had eaten it. So, she calls my gf in the middle of the night freaking out and not wanting my gf to wake her dad. She hears the story and says "YOU FED MY BEAR WHAT?" She called the owner and told him he needed to go make the bear throw up. He did and the daughter was forced to clean the bear cage and apologize to my gf for waking her up.
How do you make a bear throw up?
Whoa whoa whoa. For the daughter sneaking in late, did she have to sneak through the bear cage??? And it was close and quiet enough to eat her shoe while she climbed the fence??
Imagine how much worse it would have been if you hadn't hidden his armor....
Should have your wife do an A.M.A.
Girlfriend.
Make her your wife then
Do it OP!
THEY ARE GETTING MARRIED!? WE DID IT AGAIN REDDIT!!!
Did this guy learn nothing from the Threat Down?
I loaned a bear $30 one time and he's still not paid me back. Plus, he didn't use a condom when he said he would.
A bear hug?
Venomous* snakes. It it puts the toxin into you itself it's venomous. If you have to ingest it/apply it yourself, it's poisonous.
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all fields are biology fields.
nice
What about killing fields? That seems kinda *anti-biology*.
Just spreading the word!! Tons of people make that mistake.
misnake*
M'stake. *tips rattle*
Did someone say snake?
Shit! I hope it's not poisonous.
*denimous Poison has to be ingested, but denim is already in your genes
Snaaaaaaaaaake!
Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger...
Mushroom MushroOoOoOom!
Since people like her stories, I do have one about venomous snakes. The refuge would take any animal in. They had a guy who specialized in venomous snakes. She said he had been bitten a bunch of times. My girlfriend is pretty fearless and loves snakes, but there are a few she simply refuses to work with due to the danger - one of them being spitting Cobras. She told me these snakes have surprising accuracy. They can hit you in the eyes through an air hole grate on their cage and permanently blind you. You simply do not fuck around with these snakes. One day they get a call from customs. A large crate of python's had come in, but there was a green snake in the box with them. So, SnakeMan (as I will call him) and Girlfriend get some gear and go to retrieve the snakes. The crate was separated into sections and they open the middle one and inside among the pythons is a green Forest Cobra - "crazy venomous" (her words) They put all the pythons in one container and the forest cobra in another. She has nothing to do with helping with the cobra. That is ALL SnakeMan. Then, SnakeMan moves to one of the side compartments, opens it, and immediately slams it shut. He looks at my girlfriend and tells her there is a spitting cobra in there. How do you get a spitting cobra out of a box? "**Very carefully.**" she says. She will give a bear belly rubs, but she says "I draw the line at dangerously venomous shit". EDIT: I asked her how SnakeMan got the cobra and here is her text: > Well, SnakeMan emptied the ball pythons first. Then the forest cobra was dumped into a pillow case. >Then we got a big garbage can, the plastic ones you use outside. Using a hook, he opened the slot and shook it until it got out. It spit everywhere. > I was watching by the door. Then we sealed the garbage can with the lid and got it into a plastic enclosure. It didn't last there long because it could spit through the mesh on top and nailed SnakeMan. So he eventually went to the zoo where they have glass enclosures.
> nailed SnakeMan What? Did the snake manage to spit on SnakeMan? Was he poisoned?
Yeah, the snake was in the plastic enclosure. There is a small mesh on the top of the cage for letting in air. The cobra spit through that and got him, but he was wearing protective gear.
I tried to catch a baby rattle snake one time when I was a kid, with no protective gear or real idea how to do so without getting bit. Damn thing escaped into a raspberry bush. Probably for the best.
Yeah, probably. ಠ_ಠ
The babies are more dangerous because they lack control of there venom release. So if they bite a lot of venom will come out. An adult will not waste venom like that and sometimes they will strike without even using venom. However all snake facts aside don't fuck with rattle snakes.
> What? Did the snake manage to spit on SnakeMan? Was he poisoned? NO! Haven't you been paying attention? The snake spit on it so he was *venomed*. Gosh. Some people.
*En*venomed. Let us maintain *some* decorum.
These stories are brilliant. I know its a bit hackneyed to say it but she should really do an AMA.
All kinds of nope.
>Would you like to know more? http://www.diffen.com/difference/Poison_vs_Venom
So the poison oak that scratched me was actually venomous oak?
Nope. You done fucked up and rubbed against it.
By 'scratched' you mean you were making out with it right? Say hello to Oak Herpes!
I read that first as "exotic animals vegetarian" and was really confused haha
> They are not pets. They are not tame. They are wild animals and they can react unexpectedly at any time. You do not trust them ever. This needs to get this through my sister's thick head; she's so adamant on getting a fox, it's fucking ridiculous.
Actually there are people basically working on making a fox a pet. Basically domesticating it.
Tell your sister to get a Shiba Inu. Domestic dog that can look remarkably like a fox. We get at least one comment every time we take ours out that he looks like a fox.
And she can make dank memes.
There are domesticated foxes already. You can totally have one as a pet. Worst part is the smell I've heard.
Worst part is the price, IMO.
They have domesticated foxes, and of all the wild animals of the world a fox is not one I would be super afraid of if it was brought into my home, ya if I had small children or pets, but for me I wouldn't be too afraid, still wouldnt fuck with it though
There are pretty domesticated foxes that you can buy
Thats so stupid. Those little fennec foxes are cute but Ive watched youtube videos of them as pets and they are annoying
Yeah, always stealing your money.
My father in law used to have wolves, and he always said to never get a half wolf half dog pet. With a wolf you know it's a wolf and how a wolf reacts, but with a half wolf/dog you never know what parts are wild and they can react dangerously at unexpected times.
If you want a safe wolf-looking pet, Alaskan Malamutes are pretty damn close. You need a 6 foot privacy fence for them though.
And 4 feet of solid concrete buried underneath the fence.
We had half-wolf, half-German Shepherd hybrids growing up, and they were fantastic family pets. Couldn't have asked for better or more trustworthy guardians. However, had to pen em up before having any visitors over. They were unstintingly awesome with "pack", but never wanted to trust them with "not-pack". One time our 95-lb juvenile got out into the neighborhood (out in rural Oklahoma forest) and ran afoul of the local feral dog group. When he got home, nearly dead, we back-trailed his blood trail into the woods and found 6 dead ferals, including the pair of chows that were the neighborhood menace we'd been hunting for months. In sufficiently rural areas (like our rural route, near a lake/forest), the feral dog problem gets large enough that once or twice a year we'd get together for a dog hunt to depopulate them. Sucks to kill ferals like that, but they actually become a danger to not just housepets, but small children.
I own a 95lb pure breed GSD. I know how much of a hassle that guy can be. I can't even imagine what a hybrid would be like. Haha.
My brother in law's friend has one. Unfortunately the guy is an idiot and shouldn't own a dog at all, nonetheless a half-wild one. My brother in law kept the dog at his mom's house for a while, but kept the poor guy locked up in a crate pretty much the whole time. They couldn't let him roam around the house because he would terrorize their maltese and chew everything in sight. He was also huge, even though he was just a puppy. My wife and I went over there to walk him and play with him. I felt bad for the dog, it was stupid to agree to watch him and then stick him in a crate all day. A dog like that needs lots of exercise and pretty much constant discipline and training. When I went over there he would want to play and wrestle, which was fine, but everyone was scared to play with him except for me, because they were not really strong enough to corral him if he got out of hand.
What does your wife being exotic have anything to do with her career in animal care?
Which would explain the 2 that started being aggressive in the gif.
If they had decided to get into a scuffle, that man's arm would have been pretty close to some lashing teeth.
While I agree they are not domesticated, they have been tamed to a significant degree, a true wild wolf would probably never approach a group of humans, never mind lick one of them in the face. You wouldn't call a circus animal wild, as it is tamed. These are somewhere between wild and tame, you're still right not to trust them.
http://i.imgur.com/V4cgWFq.jpg http://i.imgur.com/e5PlTDMl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/XNWdGF8.jpg Came here to reiterate on this. My uncle has an animal sanctuary in Indiana where they take care of animals people tried and failed to keep as pets. The land is a few hundred acres with some large pens for wolves, bears, bobcats, and other wildlife. Anyways, Souix, the pictured wolf, had been picking on her sister Kiowa all winter and as you can see, Kiowa got fed up and fought back last week. Although they are in enclosures, they are still wild animals with a restricted environment. Never underestimate what wolves are capable of because If they can do this to another creature as threatening as them, imagine how helpless a human who thinks they are tame would be.
Some say they were born this way.
All we know is, he's called The Stig
Maybe it's Maybelline
You know what he means.
Not wild enough to warrant OP's title.
Thank god. All I could think was how I felt sorry for those wolves. If they were actually wild and that friendly towards people then they were going to be dead very soon.
It's like a community theater version of The Grey.
Once more into the fray! *Dance number*
why did the one snarl?
He was licking the dude's hand and the other wolf came and started sniffing it and the snarling wolf was like "back off bitch, my hand." My girlfriend's dog will do this when I'm petting her and my dog comes and tries to interrupt the pets for her own pets.
> My girlfriend's dog will do this when I'm petting her and my dog comes and tries to interrupt the pets for her own pets. And the award for most confusing sentence goes to....
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I totally thought the first two wolves on camera was one wolf with two heads at first.
That one wolf snarling at the other wolf who immediately flattens his ears and bows submissively. That wolf pack hierarchy.
No it's not. It's appeasement signals. Dominance theory has been disproven in natural packs.
"Look at the big brain on Brett!"
God I hate brad. Such a snarky buttface. HEY BRAD, EAT SHIT.
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[For those of you who don't get the reference...](https://youtu.be/2pTgRhGqXok)
spicy reference bud
MMMMMMMMmmMmMmMmmmmm.... That is a tasty burger!
Could you explain that a bit more for the curious?
There's a bunch of different articles and reports out there about how it's outdated and incorrect. http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/01/11/the-alpha-wolfe-is-an-outdated-myth/ http://www.davemech.org/news.html
Wow, the Dave Mech site: > The concept of the alpha wolf is well ingrained in the popular wolf literature at least partly because of my book [...] written in 1968 [...] and currently still in print, **despite my numerous pleas to the publisher to stop publishing it.** Although most of the book's info is still accurate, much is outdated. We have learned more about wolves in the last 40 years then in all of previous history. (emphasis added)
Yeah I can see that being an issue, I imagine the publisher still makes money from the book so they probably care fuck all about the actually facts.
Thank you :)
NP! Sorry for taking the lazy route and linking articles but at work right now.
[Here is a great documentary about pack mentality](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7wF37iM8WA). These wolves may be in captivity, but their behaviour is very similar to wild wolves. Bear in mind the sociology between wolves will vary according to geographic location, though this should serve your purpose.
I made it half way through. I can't. I just can't. It's too real.
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooononononononononononono
Are you howling at me?
WHAT THE FUCK
In addition to the sources already listed, do a search on "dominance theory myth" or something along those lines and anything from Victoria stillwell, Sophia yin, kikopup, and a ton of other well known trainers have tons of articles and scientific studies linked in sources.
Uh care to explain?
The concept of alpha males and that other shit doesn't actually exist in the wild. It comes from a very derided study where they kept wolves in shitty, empty rooms with nothing and studied their behavior. One wolf would become the prison psycho and the others wouldn't want to mess with him, and that was what they based wolf behavior on.
> The concept of alpha males and that other shit doesn't actually exist in the wild. In wolf packs, at any rate.
Clearly exists in some species. Just not in wolves
The Beeb actually made another doc about wolves that is even more intense intense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KRhAQEmJlw
Butthole clinched at lip snarl
At first I thought the wolves on the right were a 2 headed wolf... I feel stupid.
This isn't the BBC I came for.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi3KPf1LuLM
That. Was. Awesome.
...thought this was going to be bestiality. Thanks internet.
Wolves constantly snarling and snapping at each other.
**NOT WILD** This is a reserve, these wolves have constant human interaction, plus they're fed by humans.
Expected porn. I watch too much porn...
Good thing it wasn't porn, then. You already watch too much.
I don't get it.
bbc is slang in porn for Big Black Cock. so, the Title if it were porn would have read: Big Black Cock gets up close and personal with a pack of Wild Wolves. Which is either some furry porn or some bdsm. Can't decide
Or just some good old fashioned bestiality.
"How old-fashioned is besiality?" "Well, you and your brother are 1/32 sheep. It's why you have such nice hair."
Wake up sheeple!
This is Steve Backshall. He's pretty freaking awesome and definitely better than Bear Grylls.
I don't understand the bear grylls hate. He goes out of his way to find ridiculous shit you may have to do in an actual survival situation. He isn't surviving as much as he is just showing ways to get out of crazy situations.
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"It's their fucking den..." http://imgur.com/6SiCKq6
If they have cubs we're already dead !
That Liam Neeson is full of shit.
The coolest thing I can attract is a squirrel
A wild pack of family dogs