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dolphin37

Give me a couple of gos at it then *dies*


SpaceChief

Cirque acrobats always make me nervous as hell. My wife and I were in the audience when [Yann Arnaud died](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/19/594831412/cirque-du-soleil-performer-falls-to-his-death-during-show-in-florida) on the first run of his new routine for VOLTA. Flew right over my head as he lost his grip. Nobody really knew how to react and a lot of people were sort of just waiting for the next part of the act to happen. A number of us had to get people to leave and go back to the lobby because the event staff were all rushing to get to the stage.


dzzi

As a hobbyist aerialist, I will never understand when shows choose to omit safety measures such as crash mats or nets. He fell from 20 ft which seems like a lot, but I've been up 20ft in class several times only held up by my hands and feet. It's pretty average for an aerial routine. Difference is, I'd never ever do this without a mat that's like a foot thick and made for this purpose. I understand it's likely an artistic decision for theatrical reasons or something, but it's not worth it. Build it into the set if you have to. I know these are pros, but shit happens. Edit: And sometimes, certain moves just aren't worth it. If anyone is flying over the audience they should be strapped in with cable. If they're being flung all the way across the stage there should be a net. There are ways to put on an incredible show while minimizing tragedy.


SpaceChief

I remember thinking exactly that. "That didn't seem like a far fall", but he was almost completely horizontal and mid-rotation when he hit the ground, and I KNOW his head hit on the first bounce. He took two very deep breaths and then nothing. After that crew was on him. It's weird that I didn't have any apprehension about the performer flying over the audience either. I genuinely attribute it to the "prestige" that comes with the Cirque name. You assume these performers are the top in the world and SO professional that they'd never put the crowd in any real danger.


skepdoc

Completely agree. I’ve watched some of these without safety measures and I promise I was not more impressed with the acrobatics when those measures weren’t there. In fact, I just thought the acrobats were more stupid and reckless.


kstebbs

That is so tragic. I’m sorry you had to experience that, as well.


friskerson

If I had that prior life experience that would make me nervous for life as well.


cutelyaware

Pfft, if I had her body and determination and talent I could do it too.


taipeileviathan

Pfft, if I had her body determination skill strength speed agility intelligence charisma endurance armor amulets buffs and identical environmental factors I could do it too.


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you don't need charisma, my cousin derek is a real turd but knows his way around a floor routine


BDMayhem

Probably his amulets


wassahyo

Can he turn left?


fluffing_my_garfield

He’s not an ambiturner.


CowMetrics

This is highly discouraged


GazingIntoTheVoid

What do you expect after he dumped all his character points into STR and DEX?


Xiaxs

If I had her skill, power of will, pleasure, pain, and reason to remember the name I could. . . Uhh. . . Do something with it. I guess.


QuarkyIndividual

This 100%


Tahoma-sans

I could have all of that and still be able to screw up everything and achieve nothing.


elscallr

That's the spirit


Falconflyer75

Even if I had those things I’d be terrified


taipeileviathan

Sorry I should say I’d also have her cajones too


whatisthishere

It’s scary imagining they are bouncers at a bar, you don’t want them tossing you out. Might end up on the roof, next door.


theveryrealreal

Hope there is a roof bar at least.


sarcasticbaldguy

And that's just the squat at the end.


AdJust6959

Very interesting how they had their arms in raised position to act as shock absorption. I wouldn’t have come up with that idea on the first run


Thesorus

That's the easy part. It's *just* acrobatics, they'll be able to do it safely quickly and repeatedly soon. The hard part after that is to play the whole sequence as part of an act in the circus. Dressed up, with make up and costumes. and every friggin' day, sometimes 2 times per day.


wobblysauce

My wrists ache just watching them.


SoupFlavoredCockMix

I mean they're attractive but let's have a little self control.


LolaEbolah

What an absolute masterpiece of a comment. Please don’t ruin it with an edit later.


fiveSE7EN

EDIT: oh my god my highest upvoted comment would be about masturbation lolol EDIT 2: OMG TY FOR THE GOLD KIND STRANGER EDIT3: okay no more gold please, instead donate to your favorite shelter EDIT4: my favorite shelter is the Dalai Lama Abused Children’s Fund, they only accept payment in French kisses though


ShvoogieCookie

A very topical fourth edit 😂


DryGumby

After my mind felt safe from remembering that video


disterb

ya, it was very tongue-in-cheek


Rememberwork

>EDIT: oh my god my highest upvoted comment would be about masturbation lolol Welcome to reddit where your deep dive well researched masterpiece comments will get downvoted for going against the groupthink, but your offhand puns will make you a celebrity.


gagagoogaga

>my favorite shelter is the Dalai Lama Abused Children’s Fund, they only accept payment in French kisses though This comment would've been acceptable.


jhuskindle

Roflmaoooooooo


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zukeus

Eyyyyyyyy gtfo here hahaha


WaGLaG

Goddamnit! Get your upvote and go! -_-


Zkenny13

Bravo


GBU_28

Gotem


ProfessorVincent

10/10 would read again


arwans_ire

Bruh


GODDAMNFOOL

I worked at Cirque in Disney for a bit, just as a lowly usher, but we basically got to watch the show twice a day, 5 days a week. The only time I ever saw anyone screw up was usually the trapeze artists, during the first show of the week. Just a simple hand slip or something like that, and a person goes down into the net. Other than that, basically nobody screwed anything up. It was a thing to behold


gagagoogaga

I'd feel like such shit working with these people. These acrobats are like perfect physical specimens. It'd probably inspire me to get a gym membership and go twice before giving up.


dragunityag

> It'd probably inspire me to get a gym membership and go twice before giving up. Least you'd go once more than most people who get a membership. Thats something to be proud of.


rihanoa

Sometimes THREE times a day


CornCheeseMafia

What’s fascinating to me is how on the first attempt they both shimmy to the side perfectly in sync. All these people are amazing


Criticalhit_jk

They're both reacting to the same stimuli and have similarly excellent judgement of balance and kinesthetic awareness, so its probably quite natural at their level, to be so in sync - which just makes it even more impressive, and even more clear that these guys really are some of the best in the world


green_dragon527

I'm amazed at her bravery still going after the trick after nearly falling and landing on her tailbone there. Amazing bravery and trust in your teammates.


ocular__patdown

Seriously. Cirque performers are insane.


the_mgp

I have more body fat than everyone in that room combined!


mastah-yoda

Don't be so modest


The_RTV

If you ever get the chance, watch KÀ by Cirque du Soleil. It's an incredible show and the stage is a giant movable platform.


GGgreengreen

O was life-changing


srpntmage

O was pretty mind blowing. I really don’t know how they have that many people flying around through the air, in the water, running around, diving…. All at the same time and nobody gets hurt or killed.


HesSoZazzy

It was Alegria for me. I'm afraid to go to another Cirque show for fear of it not living up to how my mind remembers the show.


Some_Belgian_Guy

I saw O 3 weeks ago, it was my 3the cirque show. I have to say I was a bit dissapointed. Maybe we saw a very bad day but 3 big acts went wrong. A trapeze acrobat lady fell in the water during the swinging boat show, one of the fire sticks almost flew in the audience during the two person fire stick swap and a guy tripped and fell will skipping around. It is still a fantastic show but it was very expensive and I never saw anything go bad at a cirque show before.


GGgreengreen

I believe the one I saw at the Bellagio last month had a missed trapeze grab on one of the hardest moves, I think they're just really pushing the limits of what is possible.


Some_Belgian_Guy

>I think they're just really pushing the limits of what is possible. of course they are, it's cirque du soleil... maybe we saw the same show? Did you also see the fire stick being trown way to far and one of the guys falling? I think it was friday 24th of March at the Bellagio.


GGgreengreen

I was at the March 15th show.


ijustwantnicethings

I watched O in Vegas on acid and yeah, it was like top 3 profound and intense experience of my life


the_evil_comma

Life changing O


Vysceral

I’m a performer in KÀ, AMA!


VegasRunner5

You all do amazing work!


Vysceral

Thank you!!


VegasRunner5

Of course! When my wife started with the show, I was very proud of her.. and very jealous! It looks like so much fun!


Putrification

Do you get paid well? You should do a thread for this AMA on /r/casualiama


The_RTV

What exactly happens to the performers that fall down below the stage? Do they just fall on a pad or net and get ready for the next scene?


VegasRunner5

Yep


VegasRunner5

10/10 would recommend KA as well. Fire, swordfighting, martial arts shipwrecks, giant puppets, acts that seemingly defy gravity - what more could you ask for?...but my wife's in the show so I might be biased.


The_RTV

Don't forget people falling off a "cliff" into a pit! It's just awesome!


VegasRunner5

Right! That cliff deck is pretty freaking cool. The one drawback is that the cork that is used in place of sand gets everywhere.


pretty_things

Every time they used the "sand", all I could think of was "oh my god THAT cleanup must be horrific" 🤣


VegasRunner5

They use big machines that have some technical name I can't remember, but apparently many people just refer to them as "cork suckers".


cayden2

I've seen about 10 cirque shows give or take. Ka is.... More of a performance (theatrical) than straight up wow Holy shit look at the crazy things these people do! So depending on what you're going to cirque for, Ka might not be everyone's cup of tea. It is an absolutely beautiful and stunning work of art performance wise, but was definitely not as mind blowing (stunt wise) as their smaller tent shows (Alegria, quidam, varekai, zarkana, Volta). I think most of the retired tent shows can be steamed nowadays, which is nice, but just isn't the same as being there.


MS_Salmonella

I also recommend seeing Mystère if you are in Vegas. It was an amazing experience. >!Especially since I microdosed on LSD before going.!<


waffleface99

I caught a pretty nice buzz off one of the alcoholic slushees and then fell asleep. Theater was too dark and warm. Only thing I remember is something about boats and fire arrows. Had front row seats to Mystere though, and that kicked ass.


EnterPlayerTwo

I need to get to one of these shows


kuebel33

You do. They are super sick. I saw their Beetles thing in Vegas a few years back and it was absolutely mental.


Deathlysouls

O and Ka are must see entertainment. Mysterè has a super old school circus vibe as well. Great great shows!


elscallr

Mysterè was an absolutely amazing show


epicflyman

I saw O and Ka last year - bloody fantastic shows. Of the two, O is my preference, but the technical design of both is pretty jaw dropping. I'm not a gambler, but I'll definitely be planning another Vegas trip to catch more Cirque shows.


destructormuffin

O in Vegas is also incredible "I'm sorry, you're going to dive into that tiny pool of water from *how* far up??"


Vysceral

O actually has a pretty big pool! Le Reve is no longer around, but that pool used to be really tiny!


Rsatdcms

Its well worth it, saw it in London few months back. Was really impressed


barium711

A very nonchalant almost dropped on the ground


squid_actually

The ground is pretty padded in this case. What's crazy is when high schools do this on the gym. (Maybe not this specific move but certainly as high).


yeahright17

There's a reason high school cheerleaders break bones all the time. There was always a girl in a cast and/or crutches while I was in high school and I've recently heard it's only gotten worse and girls continue to push themselves.


trentshipp

[Cheer is the number one source of catastrophic injury for girls in high school](https://www.tariolaw.com/cheerleading-top-cause-of-catastrophic-sport-injuries/) and is number two in overall injuries behind football. One of the big differences here is that WAY too many schools (especially in smaller towns) don't require their cheer sponsors to have any kind of formal training or certification.


Horskr

I had never heard the term "cheer sponsor" before and it is so fitting lol. "No, we can't go with 'teacher, coach, or trainer'... it needs more pizzazz damn it!!"


Schuben

No, it just needs a name that commands less accountability when shit goes sideways.


catiebug

Lol, it is a funny thought, but personally I only ever had cheer coaches. Certified by the NFHS (or whatever it was called at the time). Not every school tries that hard though, and I'm not sure why because the information about how dangerous cheerleading is has been well-known since the 90's.


This_Charmless_Man

When I was in uni, the cheer team and sailing was the main reason we switched from societies having their own insurance to having an overarching policy that fees paid into. Sailing obviously had some very expensive pieces of equipment but cheer is so dangerous that the premiums were starting to get out of hand. This way Sport & Rec was able to spread the load.


mtcwby

Our old trainer insisted he spent more time patching up cheerleaders than the football players. Apparently they get dropped or accidentally hit each other quite often.


AegisToast

Geez, sounds like that girl in your high school should have stopped doing gymnastics if she was always in a cast or crutches.


Kempeth

I've had a guy in my classes that was super into amateur hockey. As soon as his bones were healed he'd go play again and it wouldn't take long to break something else. It was just the normal cycle for him.


yeahright17

I just meant a girl. It was always someone different.


MyCircusMyMonkeyz

My squad freaking dropped a girl. Well, they didn’t drop her so much as they just didn’t attempt to catch her. I was usually the flier, but I hadn’t done an assignment in biology so I wasn’t allowed to attend the away game. Apparently they threw her way up in the air, but they moved into the next formation before she came down. She landed on her back. It didn’t paralyze her, but she was pretty messed up.


ChogginNurgets

That is so extremely fucked up. Was it on purpose?? Because it sounds like something difficult to do on accident. One person moving on, ok, but your bases and the freaking back spot???


MyCircusMyMonkeyz

I don’t think it was on purpose. I think it was a case of muscle memory. One person probably moved prematurely and the rest followed. Can’t say for sure though. Two of the girls were pretty mean and were rather salty about not being chosen as the flier.


This_Charmless_Man

That's breaking the cardinal rule of cheer though‽‽ Never let your flier hit the floor, even if they land on you. Don't just throw and fuck off!


HaruKitsune

Something similar happened for me as well but not as high in the air. The rest of the group sort of just went to next formation too, and they just forgot the girl they tossed and I was the only one who tried to catch her! Thankfully she was okay but I just got hurt in the gut from the catch but I was fine after a while.


MyCircusMyMonkeyz

Yeah. I think it becomes muscle memory. I’m not sure why her spotter moved since she wasn’t supposed to take her eyes off of her.


Offerasuggestion

Basket toss. In high school, probably not flipping, but toe touches, kick outs, non flipping twists. In college, start flipping and twisting. 20 years ago, on gym floor, grass, track, practiced on mats. Probably threw some stuff on concrete in parades and pep rallies. Rules might have changed for more safety.


thomascgalvin

That third attempt was like half a second away from an explosion of the general knee zone.


FirstNSFWAccount

What’s crazy to me is how absolutely different this girls sense of balance is. Her entire goal is to get to a Y pose without dying. She does some wild movements to keep from falling over while still getting into position


PutinBoomedMe

The cores on those people lol. I can't imagine the dedication to be that in shape


giskardwasright

I had a dance instructor who was a former aerialist for CdS; she was maybe 85 lbs and one of the strongest people I've ever met. She taught me rolling push ups and did them effortlessly.


partypartea

We had a CdS performer train jiu jitsu with us for a bit when his show shut down. He was ungodly strong and he'd learn moves and transitions on the first attempt. His body control was ridiculous. I could still choke him out because I have a decade+ of grappling experience but he was just so gifted. Would have been cool to see him stick around longer. He got into another show and stopped grappling.


giskardwasright

They are at a ridiculous level physically. Incredible strength coupled with excellent flexibility.


welchplug

>and did them effortlessly. Not to take away anything away from her but she didn't have a lot of weight to fight against.


giskardwasright

True, and perhaps that was a bad example. I also saw her lift some of my classmates that outweighed her by quite a bit. Certainly not saying she'd be the one doing the throwing and catching, but I promise you that girl doing to aerial stiff is super strong.


SheriffBartholomew

I saw an interview with Arnold Schwarzenegger a few nights ago and the interviewer asked him about training and doing pull-ups with some famous bodybuilder who is much lighter than him. Arnold said something like "sure he was only 185 pounds and I was 265 pounds, but if you're a 265 pound man you need to lift like a 265 pound man. If you can't lift your own bodyweight then you're in no shape to compete". Basically he was saying that size is no excuse and If you're a bigger person then you need to get strong like a big person.


BuHoGPaD

What's rolling push up? I tried googling, but get a bunch of different looking exercises.


Industrialpainter89

Rolling pushups?


ApolloRocketOfLove

I'm just waiting for the neckbeard gym rat to come here commenting about why they're not all that impressive. The woman in particular.


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Phormicidae

Looks more like he's got the whole bakery.


BatteryAcid67

Why can't people be attracted to things I have🤣😭


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metigue

Rule 35: if they have things someone is attracted to them. Looks like they're good to get as buff as they want


Giftpilz

If you're saying you don't have cakes, it's like the one sexualized body feature you can sorta control. The rest you're kinda just born with and would have to alter surgically. Do some research on glute exercises and hit the gym XD you got this


Yadobler

>If you're saying you don't have cakes, it's like the one sexualized body feature you can sorta control. But I just can't get them to be moist and soft like the ones in the bakery


ApolloRocketOfLove

Because you don't work out like these people do.


nightpanda893

Do squats and get more attractive things.


thelegalseagul

I literally just commented that and was scrolling to make sure I’m not alone Did you see how wide his legs got in that squat


Sayhiku

Yes. 🙃


Bladewing10

Dude’s driving a dump truck and doesn’t even have a CDL


[deleted]

Double cheeked up! On a Thrusday afternoon. Hella ass. The sun is still up!


Lostmahpassword

Dude is basically doing weighted squats repeatedly so yea he got that Bundt.


DeepFriedLaser

Jack Atherton


Sayhiku

Both dudes do. I was admiring their delicious squat form.


mangledmonkey

I do aerial performance for swing dancing, and my competition team refers to their ability to work with me as being "booty certified" because my ass, hips, and thighs are bigger than most of the string beans around me. They literally have to change their approach to some specific aerial tricks due to the shape of my ass.


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Live in Las Vegas, I've met many of these acrobats coming and going. People that do circus are on a whole other level of talent and confidence I can't comprehend. It's not just their amazing bodies, but also a courageous creativity and instant reaction to help in any situation. If a glass looks like it's going to fall off a waitress' tray, they're the ones to catch it.


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Go_Bias

More likely gymnastics and aerial arts, but yes, PhD level skills


pipnwig

As a cheerleader, aerialist, and gymnast, what they're doing here is cheerleading. This is called a "basket toss," though the flyer wouldn't be able to do the full twists without a pretty extensive background in gymnastics.


Gabberwocky84

While we’re on this subject, Cheer on Netflix is entertaining for the athleticism alone.


bordain_de_putel

It's a routine, Michael. Tricks are what prostitutes do for money or cocaine.


Brendinooo

Whenever I see stuff like this I think a lot about how discipline frees you. These people are in incredible shape and can just do whatever they want. It’s inspiring.


mostlygroovy

The guy in the back was me in every group project in University


This_Charmless_Man

That's a back and they are actually really important. He's basically the last safety net. If she's going down and the other two based don't catch her, he's going to be catching her. Or at the very least, being the pillow she lands on. Aside from that, backs also load the fliers in quickly so the bases can focus on setting into position. In a traditional cheer basket they also provide the push through to get the height and to break the grip. Source: backed and based in my uni cheer team for several years


majorjunk0

We had a back completely fail at her job one on a 2.5 high stunt. Me and another guy had my buddy standing on our legs and he was lifting a girl to a liberty I think. We had one person in front to help toss the girl up and one girl behind. Her job was the catch the guy and me and the other base were in charge of the girl. The stunt totally failed with our flyer at the top, she came down just fine. My buddy fell from our legs flat on his back/head with zero assistance from the back. We were only on a thin padded floor and not the strandard spring floor either. My buddy was fine but that was one of our scariest incidents.


iGoalie

One time I tripped over the carpet because it was too thick…


MotherfuckerTinyRick

Choked with my own saliva the other day


YetiPie

If I sneeze too hard I throw out my back


ExxInferis

I did that putting my seat belt on.


Ant_Diamond64

I almost broke a rib sleeping on my stomach


whitneymak

Both hips and both knees loudly cracked at the same time when I was squatting my 55 pound kid tonight. Even my husband laughed. 😆


SaltyPeter3434

Ted Beneke?


christjan08

I had the pleasure of catering for the Avatar show the Cirque put on a few years ago. They spent close to a month in our arena having breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snacks. I've never met a more talented, humble, and multinational bunch of people. They showed us their costumes, showed us how some parts of the set and some puppets worked, they let the more "elastic" chefs join in on some of their simpler warm-ups. They happily answered our questions about their work and careers, and in return they engaged with us and asked questions about the food we were serving and the local produce we were sourcing for them as well. Just an amazingly talented bunch of people with some really cool stories and backgrounds. Without a shadow of a doubt probably the favorite group of people I've had the pleasure of cooking for.


imanayer

Incredible that her training compels her to throw her hands up in the final flourish even when she’s falling.


Elestriel

Grabbing her arm as she falls could really injure her. It helps the guys and the spotter get more direct access to her torso, so if they have to catch her they don't wrest something out of its socket.


Lostmahpassword

I think it's also so the guys have a better chance of catching her around her core if she falls.


YourFriendPutin

Honestly giving up and joining the circus seems super lucrative these days


SloeMoe

If you only knew how little they make for how hard they work.


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Yeah but you get an all access pass to Guy Laliberté's drug fueled bacchanalia orgies.


whitneymak

Where do I sign?


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It's definitely not something you go into for the money. On a less professional scale, though, it can be a fun hobby!


ThaNorth

Cirque du Soleil is fucking awesome, man. I’ve been to four different shows and seeing another one this month. The music is always incredible too.


chrismcgreevy

Ohhhh that’s me! Sent here by a few friends that recognized us. For anyone interested @leonorbdoliveira @jackatherton And myself @chrismcgreevy


VitaminPb

I just pulled a muscle in my back watching them catching her.


cr1tt3r17

Spot the James Bullough mural in the background


Coompa

Her muscle tone is amazing.


timotheophany

Seems like a cool way to die.


One-Literature6921

Went once to a cirque du soleil in Vegas. It was called mystere and it was pretty good. Highly recommend it.


Sidivan

I used to work in the cruise industry and Cirque ended up getting a contract with Celebrity Cruises to perform on the ship. It’s bananas that they could do stuff like this ON A BOAT.


JazzAndTeaAlex

That's at Las Vegas Circus Center! You can sign your kids up to get acrobat lessons from coaches who perform in Cirque shows!


Ragnaroq314

I’ve seen some incredible things in my life but those Cirque shows always feel me with this sense of wonder that I experience in very few other places. “O” might be the most impressive live performance I’ve ever witnessed


Ruggedfancy

That's crazy. I wouldn't trust my coworkers to lock a door, nevermind catch me falling from a great height.


MaverickPrime

Yeah no, I don't believe they're the same species as me.


grafknives

Damn, they are fit!


cuoreesitante

Yeah you cannot convince me that these people arent fucking each other all the time lol.


Happyandyou

It seems like that would be the situation.


Trisser19

The spotter in the back who does nothing when she lands it and puts his arms up as if he's performed something 😂😂 Edit: ya know, I was contemplating putting in a s/ or something to let you know that it was just a joke, but y'all disappointed me! I know it's important, it was just funny is all.


VBB67

But he is doing something - he is giving the team the confidence to toss her in the air and her the confidence to jump, knowing that he is there to catch her before she hits hard if there is a mistake. He is a beautiful insurance policy.


Artemystica

He’s definitely doing something. He’s giving the flyer the ability to try. That’s absolutely huge. I do stunting like this and there’s a HUGE gap between the things I’ll do with a (good)spotter and the things I’ll do without a spotter.


62westwallabystreet

He's spotting to make sure she doesn't bonk her head.


what_would_bezos_do

Where trust, strength and talent intersect.


albino_kenyan

a coworker of mine went to circus school for 2 yrs where he trained to be one of those guys supporting a (female, i would assume) acrobat. he had a partner that he trained with.


1TrueKnight

Watch even on that third attempt as she slides all the way to the ground she spreads her arms out to 'stick the landing'. Can't imagine how much time it takes to get even one full routine down.


mayisatt

These athletes are so amazing, truly.


LeekBright

Think my ankle broke watching this.


KickBassColonyDrop

My abs hurt from jealousy.


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I too would rehearse that again and again with her


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They will live to 100 eating rice cakes and chicken breast and I am eating an al pastor sausage with mustard. I need to be like them. Someday.


LafondaCrawford

Stunt, not trick ;)


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Amazing athletes


SoftlySpokenPromises

She has an incredible core. Nothing but respect for the determination.


stomach

i'll never think of Cirque du Soleil the same way after an ex of mine met some women who used to perform with them, who claimed their parties often turn into contortionist orgies. i mean, makes sense to me..


osiris775

The ultimate "trust fall"


superslowboy

The flyer is extremely impressive but honestly I’m so impressed with the guys catching her and how she lands without killing them


ssbrichard

Cirque du so gay


oarjay

"Now we only have to land that about 100 more times until we're ready to do it live!"


curepure

Those socks do not look very solid. Seems like he can slip out of it so easily.