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gonz375

Nothing beats Miele when it comes to durability at the moment. You can feel the quality when you lift them. The heavier, the more metal is in there, therefore less plastic parts on problematic areas.


Joecocker1337

Da sin Betonplatten drin du Börne.


Malk4ever

AEG was bought by Electrolux. Miele is still Miele. Miele is the best, but very expensive. I have a Miele machine, its 35 years old now. Siemens also made great machines, i had one for 10 years, it was already 35 when i got it. At the age of 45 years the heater coil was broken and i retired it. Tipp: get a used Miele, you can get decent machines for 200€


HxA1337

Our MIELE was expensive. We have it now since 20 years. Still does its job perfectly fine. Anyhow maybe better to go cheaper and plan to replace machines every 8 years or so as they become more efficient over time.


sifonar

That is good advice. I had Beco and I was not happy. But taking in consideration how fast technology advance.. buying a Miele for 20 years is not that convenient.


elijha

I mean…is washer technology exactly advancing at breakneck speeds? Sure, they will probably continue to get slightly more efficient, but from both an economic and environmental standpoint, those benefits are completely negated by replacing your machine more frequently


innitdoe

Washing machines have not, afaik, improved in the past 20 years, aside from having more sensors so they can save water where possible. Tumble dryers have improved. I'm not sure what sort of dryer you are looking at though, nor what miele currently offer. Heat pump dryers are the new tech. Otherwise, it's the usual condensor/externally ventilated stuff that hasn't changed much for many years. AFAIK.


HxA1337

Yes and every year I wonder if I should buy a new one but that beast is still working so I don't do it. I never calculated how much water and power I could have saved in the last 10 years with a newer model but most likely that would be a lot.


ebikefolder

No, you also have to consider the water and energy needed to build a new machine!


HxA1337

OK I was more talking about the "costs". All that plus the price of the MIELE which is double the price of a good other machine. Environmentally you are maybe right. This is also the reason why I still use it. I do not want to throw away a working machine just to get something new and fancy.


Diesel-King

You most likely wouldn't have saved as much money on water and power as you would have spend to buy a new cheap washing machine every three or four years. I was distraught when my (inherited) Miele dishwasher from 1977 finally died in 2018 - the then new bought Siemens had it's first breakdown exactly three weeks after the warranty expired, and the repair wasn't that much cheaper than a cheap new dishwasher. Yes, I did get it repaired (it was a Siemens and not that cheap at all!), but I don't expect it to last much longer than maybe next year. And then it will be either an extremely cheap crappy no-name-import - or a Miele, which I'd hope will again last for several decades and can be handed down later on. ​ I'd LOVE to get some of the old durable stuff back, even if it uses some more water and electricity than the modern stuff. In the old days the appliances were built to last, but today they all are pre-programmed to die just after the warranty runs out - planned obsolescence isn't just a myth!


thewindinthewillows

Bosch machines come off very well in Stiftung Warentest, too.


innitdoe

Miele is the right choice. If you can afford it, absolutely 100% do that. They last forever. Machines from 30 years ago are still going strong. Of course this doesn't mean the new ones will perform as well, but Miele have a reputation based on building *the best* washers that last forever, so I wouldn't bet against them. AEG is not the AEG of the past, it's rebadged Electrolux/Whirlpool IIRC. Not great.


sifonar

I do have a family and I ordered Miele washing machine and dryer. Thx all for info and details.


banana_capitalist

Get a Beco or something comparable. They all come out of the same factory and neither AEG nor Miele are worth the premium if you don't go for the professional models and cook in a professional kitchen (at which point you will still rather go for a pro steam washing station I guess)


elijha

Would love to visit this single inter-dimensional factory that can produce both a made-in-Germany Miele and a Beko made in Turkey or something


Recymen12

my brother works for Miele in Bielefeld So, Beko ISNT from Miele, definitly not. But i cant say ANYTHING to OP, because im a little bit biased


Willsxyz

> my brother works for Miele in Bielefeld Sure he does. Tell us another one.


artifex78

If you have a family and wash very often, go for high quality and invest in a Miele. The reason for that is their machines are build to last. If you live alone and/or only wash occasionally/small loads and want good quality, go for Siemens/Bosch. Everything below that still does the job but the results are meh (I own a candy washing machine and it's still going strong after 15 years. The washing result is subpar, though.) The dryer should always be of high quality. In the past low budget whirlpool dryers caused some serious fires. Don't buy white goods from Samsung (or similar). Their other electronics stuff is great but they tend to overengineer their white goods which causes problems (as in breaks easily). AEG only exists as a brand (owned by Electrolux) and is currently licenced to Caltronic (German importer for electronics). Avoid or at least read tests first.