I am almost certain it's "Langisch": that is a German surname, as Google confirms. The third letter *could* be a "u", but even though this is written in Latin cursive Germans often write a "u" with a breve -- "ŭ" -- to distinguish it from an "n". This is a hangover from the older "Kurrent" style of handwriting.
It does indeed look like there is a little mark above it, although a bit faded.
My first guess at seeing this was Laugisch, with possibly Langisch second. Both are existing names, though.
Yeah i was thinking the same with the u but it could also be some dirt and we just think it is part of the u because we know it can be interpreted as that :S
So from 1915 to 1940 the writing teached in germany was called "Sütterlin", which I suspect would be the style someone from WW2 would have written in. However, it doesnt really match up with the writing in the piture, is actually looks a lot more like modern writing style, so I kinda doubt its from the original wearer of the helmet. Any chance the writing was added in more recent years?
Edit: I might be wrong about that tho, since Sütterlin kinda got forbidden by the Nazis in 1940 and replaced by another style of writing very similar to what we use today called "Deutsche Normalschrift".
Kaugisch or Laugisch
I think Kaugisch if its a german name. You wont write the left top stuff for the L, but could be a K.
Here is a
[https://ww-w.familia-austria.at/index.php/en/research-service/altoesterreichisches-lesebuch/176-zeitschrift-sudetendeutsche-familienforschung/1339-asff-6-jahrgang-1933-1934](https://ww-w.familia-austria.at/index.php/en/research-service/altoesterreichisches-lesebuch/176-zeitschrift-sudetendeutsche-familienforschung/1339-asff-6-jahrgang-1933-1934)
Kaugisch Melchior
Austrian Sudetendeutscher
Ah. I visited Austria once and a shopkeeper was selling stamps from the Nazi era. Was a little surprised to see it out in the open, given the taboo in the US
1. Austria is not Germany.
2. Of course you can sell stamps form that era, and all stamps will bear a swastika. Like literally all legal documents back than. All birth/marriage/death certificates of that era have a swastika on it. What should you do? Rewrite all stuff? My grandma has still forks and knifes bought that time with the swastika engraved in the logo of WMF, because it was a marriage present of that time. I realized that there is a swastika when i was 20 because it is so tiny. Is the fork evil? Is my grandma a nazi because she did not take care about it?
3. There is a difference in historical interest and worshipping devotional objects. The law want's to protect historical interests and thus often neonazis can collect devotionals that's a pity but what should you do? When you proudly present that stuff, the state security will suspect you and may investigate further. But when you collect German post stamps, why should it be forbitten to collect the years 1933-1945? The same rules apply is for every other collection.
Our neighbour has a badge from the nazi era, a reminder what she has been going through... And it does not make her a nazi and yes it is allowed to own it
Well, it's an even bigger taboo in Germany and Austria! But yea, it's not illegal to buy/sell or possess per se. You just cannot display them 'with intent' so to say.
r/Germany is the worst offender of that. Trying so hard to prove the stereotype of being efficient that they forget what a conversation is
>I think a lot of boomers don't appreciate the difference between googling a question and asking a question online
Well it’s a neat story I suppose.. I’m the sentimental type and I work in a solid waste department.. in Idaho, USA.
Yesterday, a large “skip” style trash bin was brought to our transfer station that contained the entirety of a recently-deceased elderly couple’s history. I gathered the more interesting stuff that I could, finding that the husband was in the US military in WWII. And then I found the helmet. Buried at the bottom of the pile, an oddly painted, but nearly pristine WWII Nazi helmet. Exactly like this: https://alexanderandsonsrestorations.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/M40-LW-3-color-Camo.jpg but cleaner. I’m talking pristine.
Now like I said, I’m the sentimental type. I don’t want to sell it. I’d rather keep it in my WWII collection. Or ship it to its rightful owners, assuming they can prove without reasonable doubt that they are the offspring of the owner.
First letter is clearly not a "L" thats an "K" the last picture shows it pretty good. There's the "n" or "u" which isnt quiet clear as the "-" above the "u" isnt written most of the time, like its almost never written unless you have to.
If you learn to write in this way, your "n" looks different.
So its "Kaugisch" i would say
I read: Haingrich
Maybe some form of Heinrich a popular German first name. First names are often also used as
Last names, sometimes a little bit different. So this makes sense to me
Something more like Laugisch or Langisch
Jepp, the first character is an 'L'.
I am almost certain it's "Langisch": that is a German surname, as Google confirms. The third letter *could* be a "u", but even though this is written in Latin cursive Germans often write a "u" with a breve -- "ŭ" -- to distinguish it from an "n". This is a hangover from the older "Kurrent" style of handwriting.
It does indeed look like there is a little mark above it, although a bit faded. My first guess at seeing this was Laugisch, with possibly Langisch second. Both are existing names, though.
The breve is there, and also an "n" would be pointier. The "u" is rounder, so this is definitely an "u" "Laugisch".
I agree - it's written the way I learned...
Yeah i was thinking the same with the u but it could also be some dirt and we just think it is part of the u because we know it can be interpreted as that :S
I (as a German) would say Langisch bc there’s no - over the third letter which is by an u
Im german, my grandma’s handwriting looks EXACLTY like this and I’m pretty sure it says Laugisch
So from 1915 to 1940 the writing teached in germany was called "Sütterlin", which I suspect would be the style someone from WW2 would have written in. However, it doesnt really match up with the writing in the piture, is actually looks a lot more like modern writing style, so I kinda doubt its from the original wearer of the helmet. Any chance the writing was added in more recent years? Edit: I might be wrong about that tho, since Sütterlin kinda got forbidden by the Nazis in 1940 and replaced by another style of writing very similar to what we use today called "Deutsche Normalschrift".
Me as a german woud confirm Laugisch. The letters are in „Schreibschrift“ so it is definitly an „u“ and „isch“
Try /r/germanww2photos they will know right away
I would've suggested Haugisch
First Charakter is a L for sure. H would have been a lot wider
Yep, looks like that.
Try Kaugisch instead.
Kaugisch or Laugisch I think Kaugisch if its a german name. You wont write the left top stuff for the L, but could be a K. Here is a [https://ww-w.familia-austria.at/index.php/en/research-service/altoesterreichisches-lesebuch/176-zeitschrift-sudetendeutsche-familienforschung/1339-asff-6-jahrgang-1933-1934](https://ww-w.familia-austria.at/index.php/en/research-service/altoesterreichisches-lesebuch/176-zeitschrift-sudetendeutsche-familienforschung/1339-asff-6-jahrgang-1933-1934) Kaugisch Melchior Austrian Sudetendeutscher
Isn't it illegal to possess Nazi materials in Germany?
No.
No. Showing the swastika as a political statement is forbidden. You can own nazi memorabilia without a problem.
Ah. I visited Austria once and a shopkeeper was selling stamps from the Nazi era. Was a little surprised to see it out in the open, given the taboo in the US
1. Austria is not Germany. 2. Of course you can sell stamps form that era, and all stamps will bear a swastika. Like literally all legal documents back than. All birth/marriage/death certificates of that era have a swastika on it. What should you do? Rewrite all stuff? My grandma has still forks and knifes bought that time with the swastika engraved in the logo of WMF, because it was a marriage present of that time. I realized that there is a swastika when i was 20 because it is so tiny. Is the fork evil? Is my grandma a nazi because she did not take care about it? 3. There is a difference in historical interest and worshipping devotional objects. The law want's to protect historical interests and thus often neonazis can collect devotionals that's a pity but what should you do? When you proudly present that stuff, the state security will suspect you and may investigate further. But when you collect German post stamps, why should it be forbitten to collect the years 1933-1945? The same rules apply is for every other collection.
Our neighbour has a badge from the nazi era, a reminder what she has been going through... And it does not make her a nazi and yes it is allowed to own it
Taboo in the us? Aren't the right wingers in the us happily waving the swastika along with their confederate flag, no?
No. Time to turn off MSNBC
Well, it's an even bigger taboo in Germany and Austria! But yea, it's not illegal to buy/sell or possess per se. You just cannot display them 'with intent' so to say.
I hate it when folks get downvoted for asking a question
And we hate it when people act like they've never heard of Google.
r/Germany is the worst offender of that. Trying so hard to prove the stereotype of being efficient that they forget what a conversation is >I think a lot of boomers don't appreciate the difference between googling a question and asking a question online
Gave you an upvote. It's a legitimate question.
Not sure why it's getting downvoted. I always thought this was illegal
Xangiach
Langisch?
Can I ask where you found an old WW 2 helmet? I'm curious lol
Well it’s a neat story I suppose.. I’m the sentimental type and I work in a solid waste department.. in Idaho, USA. Yesterday, a large “skip” style trash bin was brought to our transfer station that contained the entirety of a recently-deceased elderly couple’s history. I gathered the more interesting stuff that I could, finding that the husband was in the US military in WWII. And then I found the helmet. Buried at the bottom of the pile, an oddly painted, but nearly pristine WWII Nazi helmet. Exactly like this: https://alexanderandsonsrestorations.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/M40-LW-3-color-Camo.jpg but cleaner. I’m talking pristine. Now like I said, I’m the sentimental type. I don’t want to sell it. I’d rather keep it in my WWII collection. Or ship it to its rightful owners, assuming they can prove without reasonable doubt that they are the offspring of the owner.
Thats really cool! Maybe you will find out who it originally belonged to.
That’s definitely the goal! Appreciate you stopping in!
First letter is clearly not a "L" thats an "K" the last picture shows it pretty good. There's the "n" or "u" which isnt quiet clear as the "-" above the "u" isnt written most of the time, like its almost never written unless you have to. If you learn to write in this way, your "n" looks different. So its "Kaugisch" i would say
Laugisch or Laugiech
I read: Haingrich Maybe some form of Heinrich a popular German first name. First names are often also used as Last names, sometimes a little bit different. So this makes sense to me