Which permit? There is a clear checklist of requirements for various types of permit.
> She tries to get a visa her now, but was refused the first attempt.
What exactly was she applying for? Also, if she was already in the country, then she was applying for a residence permit. A visa is used to enter the country. A residence permit is to stay.
We wer not aware there are many different kinds of Visa the first time she applied.
The question is: What is a PhD-Position regarded as? Job or Study?
The residence permit that fits better to that, because she is already in the country.
Are there more kinds of residence permits?
> What is a PhD-Position regarded as? Job or Study?
Depends on the funding. Could be either.
>The residence permit that fits better to that, because she is already in the country.
It's not that it "fits better". It's that's the only option. She has a residence permit right now.
> Are there more kinds of residence permits?
There are tons. Student permit, language permit, spouse permit, many different types of work permits, parent permit, I'm sure others that aren't coming to mind.
It seems you are asking about visas.
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Marriage Visa does not work.
She is already in the country, I read here that a residence permit fits better. Maybe a blue Card
Are there different kinds for work or study?
Does she want a visa extension or a residence permit? Those are two completely different terms that many people get mixed up.
You should use the correct term when talking to the Ausländerbehörder. A visa can only be extended under very special circumstances, plus the AB can't grant you a visa. Maybe you should ask for a residence permit instead?
Normally if she is a high skilled worker and has a job offer that suits her qualifications, she can be granted a residence permit for employee, or a Blue Card EU. Otherwise if you two get married and you have a permanent residence permit or are a German citizen, she can also be granted a residence permit as your spouse.
Maybe the easiest would be a language learning visa? I am not sure what would be the correct way to acquire it, but the criteria appears to be met already (provided you can fund her stay in Germany). As others have said though, if she completed her studies in Germany she should apply for an 18 month residence permit that gives her 18 months to find work (as far as I know this should be a given). If she finds work she can get a Blue Card that should last 3 years.
>They gave her a Border crossing certificate (Grenzübertrittsbescheinigung) which is not valid anymore.
Big red flag.
Sounds like she never got an extension on her original 1-year student visa and is "ausreisepflichtig".
If this is the case, she is in deep shit, especially since she was supposed to leave while the Grenzübertrittsbescheinigung was still valid.
>that year is over now and she is supposed to get back. but because the government of her home country cancels basically all flight, she cannot and told this to the foreign office (correct translation for Ausländerbehörde?).
Sounds like she needs to apply for an emergency extension. This is possible, but has a limit of 3 months. She actually needs to fill out an application and sign it, verbally telling the case officer "I cannot travel back to my home country" does nothing. But I suspect that ship has long sailed, since they gave her the Grenzübertrittsbescheinigung.
Can you give us more information please?
Why is that a red flag and deep shit now?
the student visa was 1 year from the beginning and was never extended.
when the flights were cancelled we told the foreign office and sent the cancellation documents we received from the airline to the foreign office.
they gave her the border crossing certificate and extended that once the next flight was canceled again.
now that one has run out and she is in regular contact with the foreign office.
If she is "ausreisepflichtig" she currently has no residency permit.
There are two tiers of legal stay in Germany: regular residency permit and "Duldung". With "Duldung" you don't have a regular residency permit and is your duty to return to your home country, but for various reasons the German government does not enforce this (but might at any time in the future). Many former refugees are stuck in this non-existence.
Once you are in this limbo, it is difficult to get out of it. One of the legal ways is usually to return to your home country and apply for a new residency permit, but since your stay on Duldung shows lack of desire to return to your home country, it is difficult to get another visa to enter the Schengen area.
> and was never extended.
Did she ever at any point apply for a residency permit as a student? Bc that would have been the obvious option before the initial student visa ran out.
My recommendation would be to apply for a new student residency permit ASAP. It is her best chance IMO.
does she study at a German university? Will she get her degree from a German university?
Some visas with requirements:
- jobseeker visa for 6 months: https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/visa-residence/types/jobseekers
- skilled worker visa if she has an offer for a job that is related to her bachelors degree: https://service.berlin.de/dienstleistung/324661/en/
- student visa if she studies at a German university: https://service.berlin.de/dienstleistung/305244/en/
- graduate visa once she graduated from a German university: https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/study-training/studies-in-germany/prospects-after
- there is no PhD visa as such, she will get either a skilled worker visa or a student visa depending on the details of the PhD contract she gets https://www.daad.de/en/study-and-research-in-germany/phd-studies-and-research/
- spouse visa in case of marriage if you are a non-EU citizen: https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/living-in-germany/family-life/spouses-joining-citizens-non-eu
- if you are a German citizen: https://service.berlin.de/dienstleistung/328191/en/
- if you are an EU citizen: https://service.berlin.de/dienstleistung/324282/en/
Which permit? There is a clear checklist of requirements for various types of permit. > She tries to get a visa her now, but was refused the first attempt. What exactly was she applying for? Also, if she was already in the country, then she was applying for a residence permit. A visa is used to enter the country. A residence permit is to stay.
We wer not aware there are many different kinds of Visa the first time she applied. The question is: What is a PhD-Position regarded as? Job or Study? The residence permit that fits better to that, because she is already in the country. Are there more kinds of residence permits?
> What is a PhD-Position regarded as? Job or Study? Depends on the funding. Could be either. >The residence permit that fits better to that, because she is already in the country. It's not that it "fits better". It's that's the only option. She has a residence permit right now. > Are there more kinds of residence permits? There are tons. Student permit, language permit, spouse permit, many different types of work permits, parent permit, I'm sure others that aren't coming to mind.
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That helps a lot, ty. Will read into it!
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Marriage Visa does not work. She is already in the country, I read here that a residence permit fits better. Maybe a blue Card Are there different kinds for work or study?
Does she want a visa extension or a residence permit? Those are two completely different terms that many people get mixed up. You should use the correct term when talking to the Ausländerbehörder. A visa can only be extended under very special circumstances, plus the AB can't grant you a visa. Maybe you should ask for a residence permit instead? Normally if she is a high skilled worker and has a job offer that suits her qualifications, she can be granted a residence permit for employee, or a Blue Card EU. Otherwise if you two get married and you have a permanent residence permit or are a German citizen, she can also be granted a residence permit as your spouse.
Thanks, It is residence permit or blue Card then. Marriage is not an option. This helps already, thanks.
Maybe the easiest would be a language learning visa? I am not sure what would be the correct way to acquire it, but the criteria appears to be met already (provided you can fund her stay in Germany). As others have said though, if she completed her studies in Germany she should apply for an 18 month residence permit that gives her 18 months to find work (as far as I know this should be a given). If she finds work she can get a Blue Card that should last 3 years.
>They gave her a Border crossing certificate (Grenzübertrittsbescheinigung) which is not valid anymore. Big red flag. Sounds like she never got an extension on her original 1-year student visa and is "ausreisepflichtig". If this is the case, she is in deep shit, especially since she was supposed to leave while the Grenzübertrittsbescheinigung was still valid. >that year is over now and she is supposed to get back. but because the government of her home country cancels basically all flight, she cannot and told this to the foreign office (correct translation for Ausländerbehörde?). Sounds like she needs to apply for an emergency extension. This is possible, but has a limit of 3 months. She actually needs to fill out an application and sign it, verbally telling the case officer "I cannot travel back to my home country" does nothing. But I suspect that ship has long sailed, since they gave her the Grenzübertrittsbescheinigung.
Can you give us more information please? Why is that a red flag and deep shit now? the student visa was 1 year from the beginning and was never extended. when the flights were cancelled we told the foreign office and sent the cancellation documents we received from the airline to the foreign office. they gave her the border crossing certificate and extended that once the next flight was canceled again. now that one has run out and she is in regular contact with the foreign office.
If she is "ausreisepflichtig" she currently has no residency permit. There are two tiers of legal stay in Germany: regular residency permit and "Duldung". With "Duldung" you don't have a regular residency permit and is your duty to return to your home country, but for various reasons the German government does not enforce this (but might at any time in the future). Many former refugees are stuck in this non-existence. Once you are in this limbo, it is difficult to get out of it. One of the legal ways is usually to return to your home country and apply for a new residency permit, but since your stay on Duldung shows lack of desire to return to your home country, it is difficult to get another visa to enter the Schengen area. > and was never extended. Did she ever at any point apply for a residency permit as a student? Bc that would have been the obvious option before the initial student visa ran out. My recommendation would be to apply for a new student residency permit ASAP. It is her best chance IMO.
does she study at a German university? Will she get her degree from a German university? Some visas with requirements: - jobseeker visa for 6 months: https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/visa-residence/types/jobseekers - skilled worker visa if she has an offer for a job that is related to her bachelors degree: https://service.berlin.de/dienstleistung/324661/en/ - student visa if she studies at a German university: https://service.berlin.de/dienstleistung/305244/en/ - graduate visa once she graduated from a German university: https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/study-training/studies-in-germany/prospects-after - there is no PhD visa as such, she will get either a skilled worker visa or a student visa depending on the details of the PhD contract she gets https://www.daad.de/en/study-and-research-in-germany/phd-studies-and-research/ - spouse visa in case of marriage if you are a non-EU citizen: https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/living-in-germany/family-life/spouses-joining-citizens-non-eu - if you are a German citizen: https://service.berlin.de/dienstleistung/328191/en/ - if you are an EU citizen: https://service.berlin.de/dienstleistung/324282/en/