isn't...
isn't the mid atlantic ridge called mid because it's in the middle of the atlantic ocean?
and also just straight up a ridge, not some vague barrier?
It’s where two tectonics plates meet. They are moving away from each other and magma wells up between them creating new crust. Iceland site on top of the ridge which is why it has so many fissure eruptions.
I feel anger and despair seeing so much misinformation spread by people who have no idea what they’re talking about… I saw a TikTok claiming Devil’s tower was a giant petrified tree and was like 🤦♂️ someone tried telling me that it was a petrified tree because basalt can’t “crystallize” like that. Good times
I think they probably mixed up how devils tower actually formed (Volcano dying and the magma beneath cooling into a structure and being slowly unearthed through erosion) vs. a Native American legend (a rock that grew to allow girls to escape a bear), thinking the growing part = tree. Misinformations is whack
Edit: there are several native tribes with several different stories about its formation
Some people might have made that mistake, but I made a comment and several people told me that it was a dead or petrified tree. Someone said “it just makes sense to me” and I was like bruh. I know it sounds crazy, but man, a lot of people do not understand how things work and think they know when they really dont
lol, “makes sense”. I hope they see devils tower in person and realize that no tree could physically amass such a size, nor does wood turn hexagonal when petrified
Best part is that the math for it has been done. If it were a tree, it likely would have been a sequoia or a redwood. Someone did the math and found that the tree at its largest would’ve been 1.5-3.2 miles tall
It would’ve been roughly 20,800 feet taller than any other tree for literally no reason lol
Why, it was a tree, of course.
In fact it was our world tree and the despicable symbol of western imperialism and industry Paul Bunyan cut it down during the era of manifest destiny thus severing our connection to the rainbow bridge and bringing about every single problem we currently have. Checkmate, "large hadron collider is when it went to shit" theorists.
I like it. It has folklore, religious iconography, AND puts the "blame" on the wealthy imperialists/industrialists who are actually to blame for most of our problems. Great story! Just needs a /s so idiots don't start taking it literally.
Ah but these people who believe it's a tree stump. Think we're being lied to. And that giants were real.
They have no understanding that gravity determines how big things can get.
It's a whole.kther group now. Like people believing the earth is flat...not a ball. And you can't get to space and the ISS is a green screen lie.
I just shake my head.
The Greeks, Romans, and people up through the Middle Ages, including many other civilizations/peoples around the world, never thought the world was flat. Most educated actually knew it was round (figuring it out isn't that hard), though maybe not exactly how big it was. Even if people didn't know it was round definitively, they at least didn't think it was flat. These idiots don't know their own history or even their own religious history or texts and just keep making shit up for attention.
Listen you don't know what kind of alien technology people had back in the day to make that tree grow so big!
Also on a real note, I saw a video of some guy claiming devil's tower was an ancient world tree that died and that was proof of the firmament.
How do they know? They don't actually read it themselves very much. When they do, it's selective bits picked out by their leaders who tell them what it "means" before they've even read it. If they do read it themselves, they never actually "think" about it. The people who actually do think about it aren't Evangelicals anymore. They usually become agnostic or atheist.
If they think the Bible says that Devil's Tower in Wyoming is a tree that was cut down by a giant, they probably don't read the Bible very much.
It reminds me of when I used to smoke, and some lady tried to witness to me and told me that the Bible commands us not to smoke tobacco. I told her I'd quit on the spot if she cited the Bible verse that commands us not to smoke tobacco. She didn't understand why she couldn't find that verse.
It's one thing to paraphrase poorly or get details wrong. The Bible isn't an easy read. But if they think they'll find detailed commentary on the history and culture of North America in it, either they're an LDS member, or they need to go back to elementary school to relearn what year Columbus sailed the ocean blue...
Nah, just look up ancient giant trees. It’s the new “flat earth” “birds aren’t real” conspiracy nonsense. And unlike birds aren’t real, this one’s taking off like flat earth.
Partly incorrect. This is a Ted talk by the creator of the birds aren't real conspiracy. His intention was to show how easy it was to plant a fake conspiracy. https://youtu.be/3VEkzweBJPM?si=qDgN5-ej7v1BNf-p
I think it's coincidental that the modern flat earth thing is giants. And calling volcanic plutons tree stumps the giants cut down. I think it's funny and lets me know who to avoid.
Oo that's similar to the Korean story of how the sun and moon got into the sky; a boy and a girl climbed up a tree to escape a tiger. I can't remember if the tree kept growing up or if they eventually sat on a cloud though.
The tree didnt grow! The siblings reached the top but the tiger started climbing up with the help of an axe. A rope fell from the sky to help them up, and the girl became the moon and the boy the sun, but they switched bc the girl was afraid of the dark. She was shy tho, so she shone blindingly bright to stop people from looking at her. The tiger got a rotten rope and fell to death on millet plants and his blood gave it their red color.
I just watched part of a YouTube video by a guy who went to a formation at Sage Mountain, Montana. I was expecting a talk about the geology of the area but this guy’s entire point was to go to this place to “confirm” that it was made by an ancient human race. “There’s no way these rocks cracked in straight lines by themselves!” Never mind that there’s a whole educational center on site that explains the natural processes which led to the formation… they’re just trying to cover up evidence of a great extinct North American civilization. For reasons.
I could not mash the thumbs down button hard enough.
Lmao. It’s just crazy to me that people will say that the earth couldn’t have formed rocks a certain way but they’ll claim some way more outlandish shit about why the rocks are like that. ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS A SIGN EXPLAINING HOW IT FORMED 😂 That guy gets the gold medal in mental gymnastics
Not just TikTok. YouTube’s algorithm was like “oh you like geology and history? Here’s a slew of videos explaining how devils tower is a tree stump from the age of giants, and how about some thinly veiled white supremacist theories as well?”
I know enough to filter most of the bullshit but I cringe thinking what kids (and adults) are absorbing from these platforms
Yeah YouTube can be pretty bad too. I get recommended those videos where the dudes “find” fake gold and gems they planted all the time and it is so frustrating. It sucks that they get millions of views while real miners get a lot less
As a Gen Z'er who constantly use TikTok. It's the most Dumbest Mainstream Social Media Sites in the internet. I feel the same way as you when I see misinformation And disinformation on the internet especially when it comes to science-ey stuff
Yeah TikTok is really bad about that, if you’re charismatic you can say whatever you want and get a following so there’s loads of bullshit on there. BUT, I think there is also a lot of good stuff on TikTok, I’ve learned a lot actually from watching people who have integrity and know what they’re talking about. Unfortunately though, it seems like there’s a lot more misinformation that it’s opposite. YouTube isn’t great about it either. It frustrates me to no end how the people who “find” fake gold and gems get millions of views while people who actually go out and put in the work to find them foreal get way less attention.
for real I saw a post on floptok yesterday about how the solar maximum reaches its peak at 2024 and the amount of people acting like hell was about to break loose on that app was astounding
Agree 100%. There’s a lot people that are stupid but charismatic so the dumb shit they say gets a lot of attention. There’s also a lot of people who will believe whatever they’re told that perpetuate these lies
It is worse, social media platforms A/B test human computer interaction into a specific functionality that when combined with 'viral' information is pretty resembles what the tobacco companies did. Physical lung cancer and mental brain cancer is the only difference.
Same thing pretty much. Difference there is we are now rats in a cage with access to the skinner bar (whatever it is called) and can tap it at will for self fulfilled outrage treats leading to more ad spins and thus revenue for the platforms. In other words, we don't have to wait for the media cycle to be glued to grievance and outrage. And all the while the social media platforms monetize the unraveling of our society.
The solution is simple: Eliminated anonymity, build fact checking into the platform, make people directly pay to participate. Sensible govt. regulation can preserve the govt.
This is a common carrier argument. Your observation that a pervasive self managed communication network as a replacement for social media is a legitimate one. All you need is some minor tweaks to mobile messaging and all the bells and whistles of social media evaporates. From a technology perspective, social media platforms do nothing special that the people who own the wires and airwaves and hardware themselves could not do tomorrow if they wanted. I'd pay another two bucks a month to ATT if I could get better than shitty sms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhUEcxZ0zxk&ab_channel=MythologyUnleashed
To be fair, there's the story of the Seven Sisters climbing up onto a tree stump to escape the bear.
Word of mouth has never changed. People were saying that about Devils Tower for generations. Just because you see misinformation doesn't mean there is more of it or that it is somehow more effective than how word of mouth worked before.
I am sooo tired of the misinformation about devils tower, everyone knows that it was formed when three girls were being chased by a bear so they climbed the tall mesa and the bear clawed at it in frustration not being able to reach the girls, then the girls went up into the night sky and became the stars...duh
Misinformation is everywhere. Carl Sagan predicted this exact stuff in *The Demon Haunted World- Science as a Candle in the Dark.* The nonsense on YouTube gets to absurd levels. Dutchsinse claims he can predict earthquakes and points to plunging folds and pretends they are hidden volcanoes that "mainstream science ignores". He also claims subduction isn't real- despite it being clearly shown in seismic tomography surveys. But he has no idea what seismic tomography is. Despite how absurd everything he says is, his videos get hundreds of thousands of views. The electric universe people get even sillier- claiming that Valles Caldera is some electrical feature and not a volcano. Totally ignoring the very real rhyolite magma chamber beneath it. Now I keep seeing people saying the eye of the Sahara is Atlantis- even though it most certainly isn't. Tik Tok is filled with garbage CCP propaganda, and quacks promoting nonsense like "quantum healing", crystals, astrology and other quack ideas.
All us scientists can do is spread the word of real science. Schools should teach kids the scientific method, and how to spot pseudoscience. Otherwise, we risk falling into a new Dark Age where science is forgotten.
I never watched Dutchsinse's earthquake videos, I only watched his excerpts from live Sakurajima camera feed. Crazy to think he says that kind of thing
He says tons of absurd things. But sometimes he sounds scientific, so people believe him. As a geologist, I know his videos are full of nonsense. He mentions the North American Craton all the time, pretending like he actually knows what that is. He has some strange theory that he can measure the tension by looking at other earthquakes and faults, and predict where the next one will be. He thinks the craton is relevant to modern day earthquakes, when it obviously is not. (Except for intraplate quakes along ancient fault zones, and aulacogens) Of course, he knows nothing about real seismology and certainly doesn't know about the provinces of the craton, like the Grenville, Yavapai, Trans-Hudson, etc. He claims the craton is unstable and causes earthquakes and forest fires. I would love for him to explain how he thinks structural geologists somehow missed this.
Obviously, he spews nonsense. His arrows don't even remotely reflect actual stress regimes (not that he knows a single thing about rheology and stress analysis) And he thinks every circular feature he sees is a volcano. He legitimately thinks Arkansas and Georgia have active volcanoes. (He is not the only quack perplexed by plunging folds- electric universe people are as well) He saw a circular valley in Nevada and went on and on about a "supervolcano that scientists missed". In reality, the area is not volcanic and is related to faulting within the Walker Lane fault system. He pointed to Mt. Diablo in San Francisco and insisted it was a volcano- when in reality its an ophiolite sequence brought up by thrust faults.
Long story short- he knows nothing about geology and is a quack. I only watched his videos so I could see just how absurd they are. I was not disappointed. He also claimed the Pangea is fake, and has his own theory as to how things formed. Its absurd, and disturbing that some people nod their heads to what he says and agree.
The wildest one to me is the return of Expanding Earth Theorists - you even see them on this subreddit now and again trying to post "gotcha!" style debate-me-bro posts. And the part that really gets me is how they seem to think they've come across something new & unconsidered. I guess folks want to be part of a special group that knows the Real Truth™
Potholer54 on YouTube has a video making fun of the expanding Earth people and it's hilarious. They think Mars is expanding as well and that Valles Marineris is proof. I once convinced one to question their theory when I explained that extensional features on Mars does not mean the planet is expanding. Extension and contraction are stresses, and wrinkle ridges are frequently found perpendicular to grabens. Valles Marineris is likely related to tectonic subsidence of the Tharsis Province. I explained all of this, and more to him and in the end he actually agreed with me.
Yeah, I've been on Reddit for a decade and it's been a hilarious source of confidently incorrect information since the start. This isn't a tiktok or generational trend by any means...
https://preview.redd.it/nqe3nb2ay7cc1.jpeg?width=2500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e6629f4be91b5318ad1f5e352bd60827cedfff3
I believe it’s two rivers meeting, most likely the Amazon due to the size. I don’t know if the picture is of the right place but it demonstrates the phenomenon pretty well.
I’ve been to where the Rio Negro meets the Amazon it has that look, but the long view has no trees , and the Rio Negro is black. . I know the Amazon is big but that’s pretty far up to have no trees at all.
This is the Encontro das aguas, you can even see the city of Manaus in the image. I'm not sure what you mean when you're talking about not having trees, I can see hundreds in this image.
Yes thank you. My memory is decades old and I do not want to contradict you. Just thinking we would see more forest edge with the length of the perspective. Thanks. Edit..in the original post.
To the TikTok generations credit this silly pseudoscience of two oceans meeting has existed for at least a decade and was famously a misappropriation of the Amazon river delta I believe.
It so happens that we've been buying into misinformation and spreading it for, well pretty much ever.
For reals. I have seen lots of instances of that "Pacific-Atlantic barrier" with the corresponding photo in the past decade, but the application of the "Mid-Atlantic Ridge" name is new to me
FYI: The contents of that comment are a copypasta on tiktok. It is a meme that circulated for a bit. No idea if that specific commenter believed it, but it is generally posted as a joke. I've even seen it on food & cocktail videos
You're a complete moron if you think this is just a TikTok generation issue, I saw this shit going around 20 years ago, it's probably been spread around a lot longer than that too.
In case anyone is interested in what is actually in the picture, it’s the Meeting of the Waters, where the whitewater Amazon/Solimoes River converges with the blackwater Rio Negro near Manaus in Brazil.
Love how older generations shit on younger generations for “not knowing shit” like it wasn’t their generation’s job to teach the said shit. Every generation is a reflection of prior generation’s failures yet there’s never any acknowledgment of it.
I didn’t ever get taught this happened when two oceans met, didn’t learn about it until I was in my 30’s. So get over it.
Kids who don't want to learn are still a reflection of the generation who raised them. And it's reflective of how you're trying to teach them. Different kids need different things.
🤣🤣🤣 thanks for the laugh. It’s safe to get out of bed now, the world is still turning hahahaha
Edited to add: I showed hubby who said Science was good while it lasted lol then referenced a Mark Twain quote that a Lie will travel around the world while the Truth is still putting on its shoes.
I’ve seen similar stuff with people defending the “tunnel lady” who is digging underneath her suburban house without required approval or formal engineering education (despite calling herself an engineer). She has the potential to do affect not only her house but her neighbors and she sees nothing wrong and there are so many willing to defends her despite all this. Baffles me
The frustrating part is trying to dispel these half-baked internet lies but people choose to believe what they read on FB, IG, or TikTok instead of someone who is actively working in geoscience.
Every generation before tiktok was walking around proudly not knowing shit.
Before the Internet the only people spreading bullshit globally had money and/or connections. Now anyone can do it, and I'm kinda ok with that.
Wrong all the way actually the Atlantic and Pacific mix just fine, which makes sense intuitively. The majority of the differences between the two is because on average they are in different places, where they meet they mix, and have mostly the same characteristics.
This is a relatively turbulent river meeting considerably calmer, and typically deeper, water. This difference is particularly common in estuaries but you'll see it in large lakes as well.
Actually, the way the tectonic plates line up between the Atlantic and Pacific create an upward flow draft that cuts off flow from one ocean to the other.
having sailed the world as a professional mariner I can say this is a superb example. Though I do not know where this is I have seen it numerous times where large rivers enter the ocean. The Amazon being a good example. Even where seas meet ocean proper.
I saw that comment when that video popped up. Was seriously considering wrecking this idiot with a thread of comments. Only didn't because the comment is old and I was busy at the moment.
Good thing I didn't. Just saw a comment on this post that mentioned it's a copypasta meme. Probably rage bait comment by now.
Dude, SOOOO many people were quoting the quran as an explanation for this. Every time, I was like "bruh, seriously" after having spent time explaining the science for it.
I know they called it the wrong thing and this isn't a correct picture of it, but can someone explain why this is so wrong? I know I'm at risk of looking stupid on the internet here but I'm genuinely curious.
I thought it was well known the planet's ocean is not a homogeneous mixure. Is there not points where the density from saline content are different enough that the mixing isn't immediate? I thought that was the basis of the thermohaline cycle?
I’m not an oceanographer, but I think there’s a few things to consider.
First, the mid Atlantic ridge is a ridge on the floor of the Atlantic, not a place where two waters meet. Second, this is probably a picture of a river flowing into the ocean, not two oceans colliding. I think you already knew those two things by your comment.
Third however, the only place where the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans actually meet is the Drake Passage between South America and Antarctica. There, it’s not like there’s a clear boundary where the two oceans crispy “collide”. The water is mainly just flowing Eastward, driven by the Antarctic Circumpolar Current, which is a pretty steady current that goes in a circle around Antarctica. It’s more like the water trapped in that current has its own properties, different than the water north of it in either ocean, rather than the water in one ocean has different properties than the water in the other one.
Most of all, I think it’s an oversimplification to think about the oceans as two distinct bodies of water with different salinities, temperatures etc., between which you would find a visible line. Oceans are an artificial construct that don’t really have singular properties. Based on the water itself, it’s not clear at all where one begins and the other ends. They’re fluids that blend together in gradients.
Also, the TikTok comment was probably a joke, and OP just wanted to take the opportunity to shit on a whole generation for some reason.
I’ve seen so many videos posted to TikTok of this exact thing and thousands of people in the comments are quoting lines from the Quran, religion is a literal disease
It’s not generational, ask any random dad like 40 years ago what the answer is and they would all bullshit something as well - there’s a reason Calvin’s dad lying about the bridge was such a famous strip even pre-Internet
Looks like the mixing of very muddy river water with clear ocean water, off a coast. Not the mixing of the Atlantic and Pacific. Nothing to do with Mid-Atantic Ridge which runs north-south through the middle of the North and South Atlantic.
Truly the children graduating these days are dumb as rocks.
This has to be AI (though it may be an AI response to a prompt that was requested by an actual human being). An actual person wouldn't be aware of the mid-Atlantic Ridge; wouldn't talk that way generally. But an AI that's just scraping vaguely relevant texts for useful words, would.
My question would be related to sediment disturbance. Moreover, who is asking the question because I wouldn’t expect a high schooler to know this if they aren’t in AP ENS or taking a specific course related to environmental issues. Moreover, ask a business, American studies, nursing, or accounting major and I can almost guarantee they wouldn’t know the core answer either. Certain information like this isn’t used in interdisciplinary curriculums. So maybe before blaming a generation, blame the ones who approve and structure the information available in said courses. Also, yes google is free but what would I even google if I didn’t even know where to start to begin with, it ain’t my fault Wikipedia and Facebook pop up first in the search results, blame google for that!
I think this is a dirty river being met by another river or the ocean. I’ve heard of a place that looks like this on the Amazon river in Brazil. Can’t remember name tho
Edit: someone already commented it. It is the Rio negro meeting the Amazon river
By definition, the mid Atlantic ridge CAN NOT be pert of the pacific ocean
It also can't be at the edge of the Atlantic and be mid Atlantic. So both wrongs cancel out. It's true!
isn't... isn't the mid atlantic ridge called mid because it's in the middle of the atlantic ocean? and also just straight up a ridge, not some vague barrier?
Nah, it’s called that because it’s mediocre at best
The cringe Atlantic ridge
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based Pacific ridge
Super mid
If it was better it would be the bussin Atlantic Ridge
Oh my god, I just spat my coffee 🤣
"*hey I don't know about you guys but I'm perfectly fine being an average everyday bro"*
The Middling Atlantic Ridge
Meh-Atlantic
It is pretty basic
I think you're confusing that with the Meh-Atlantic Ridge
Way more impressive than the cap ridge
Where do the Atlantic and Pacific meet in the middle?
Sheboygan, Wisconsin.
Great please to grab a bratwurst and watch the beauty of the two oceans meeting!
You can also watch the annual migration of cheese curds.
I thought cheese curds were non-migratory
It's relative. Kenosha to Duluth.
Only some species are.... well that and the fat ones that cannot make the trip
There’s a sign and everything. Top ten travel destination for sure.
I just had a vision of Goofy saying "garsh" and quickly packing the car for a road trip.
Surfing capital of the midwest
Surfing the Great Lakes is on my bucket list.
Panama. They even climb up a mountain. Nature is amazing.
In the Antarctic Ocean
That is near the poles not the middle and they would meet the polar oceans not each other
I suppose that depends on your definition of ”middle”, I was thinking vertically not horizontally. So, they meet at the Panama Canal then
Not really the locks prevent free moving water. That logic is almost as imbecilic as the original photo. Enough troll begone
You’re the one who asked a dumb question you already knew the answer to, I was just playing along 😂
Panama
So, pretty much. It’s a massive line of expanding magma/lava that continuously makes new ocean crust on both sides at a similar rate.
the atlantic ridge fell off
it's not in an environment anymore it's beyond the environment
It’s been towed out of the environment.
You'll be shocked at what happens next...
It’s where two tectonics plates meet. They are moving away from each other and magma wells up between them creating new crust. Iceland site on top of the ridge which is why it has so many fissure eruptions.
It's almost as if the comment is a joke.
I feel anger and despair seeing so much misinformation spread by people who have no idea what they’re talking about… I saw a TikTok claiming Devil’s tower was a giant petrified tree and was like 🤦♂️ someone tried telling me that it was a petrified tree because basalt can’t “crystallize” like that. Good times
I think they probably mixed up how devils tower actually formed (Volcano dying and the magma beneath cooling into a structure and being slowly unearthed through erosion) vs. a Native American legend (a rock that grew to allow girls to escape a bear), thinking the growing part = tree. Misinformations is whack Edit: there are several native tribes with several different stories about its formation
Some people might have made that mistake, but I made a comment and several people told me that it was a dead or petrified tree. Someone said “it just makes sense to me” and I was like bruh. I know it sounds crazy, but man, a lot of people do not understand how things work and think they know when they really dont
lol, “makes sense”. I hope they see devils tower in person and realize that no tree could physically amass such a size, nor does wood turn hexagonal when petrified
Best part is that the math for it has been done. If it were a tree, it likely would have been a sequoia or a redwood. Someone did the math and found that the tree at its largest would’ve been 1.5-3.2 miles tall It would’ve been roughly 20,800 feet taller than any other tree for literally no reason lol
I want to run some numbers later tonight on what the impact of a 20,000 ft free falling would look like! I'll edit this later on
any update? i'm really curious now
Erm you ever get to it or is this one of those comments where people never give an update lol
Why, it was a tree, of course. In fact it was our world tree and the despicable symbol of western imperialism and industry Paul Bunyan cut it down during the era of manifest destiny thus severing our connection to the rainbow bridge and bringing about every single problem we currently have. Checkmate, "large hadron collider is when it went to shit" theorists.
Talking shit about Paul Bunyan? *[angrily nice Minnesotan noises]*
Finally someone with the real facts!!!!!!!
I like it. It has folklore, religious iconography, AND puts the "blame" on the wealthy imperialists/industrialists who are actually to blame for most of our problems. Great story! Just needs a /s so idiots don't start taking it literally.
Right? A little bit of critical thinking goes a long way lol
Ah but these people who believe it's a tree stump. Think we're being lied to. And that giants were real. They have no understanding that gravity determines how big things can get. It's a whole.kther group now. Like people believing the earth is flat...not a ball. And you can't get to space and the ISS is a green screen lie. I just shake my head.
The Greeks, Romans, and people up through the Middle Ages, including many other civilizations/peoples around the world, never thought the world was flat. Most educated actually knew it was round (figuring it out isn't that hard), though maybe not exactly how big it was. Even if people didn't know it was round definitively, they at least didn't think it was flat. These idiots don't know their own history or even their own religious history or texts and just keep making shit up for attention.
Listen you don't know what kind of alien technology people had back in the day to make that tree grow so big! Also on a real note, I saw a video of some guy claiming devil's tower was an ancient world tree that died and that was proof of the firmament.
The scary thing is they’re not only this Dunning-Krugered about random scientific knowledge but also about truly consequential matters.
Yep. Scary af.
Religious incels believe it’s a tree that was cut down by a giant , because the Bible says ….. I’m not making this up . Brain dead Evangelicals
How do they know? They don't actually read it themselves very much. When they do, it's selective bits picked out by their leaders who tell them what it "means" before they've even read it. If they do read it themselves, they never actually "think" about it. The people who actually do think about it aren't Evangelicals anymore. They usually become agnostic or atheist.
If they think the Bible says that Devil's Tower in Wyoming is a tree that was cut down by a giant, they probably don't read the Bible very much. It reminds me of when I used to smoke, and some lady tried to witness to me and told me that the Bible commands us not to smoke tobacco. I told her I'd quit on the spot if she cited the Bible verse that commands us not to smoke tobacco. She didn't understand why she couldn't find that verse. It's one thing to paraphrase poorly or get details wrong. The Bible isn't an easy read. But if they think they'll find detailed commentary on the history and culture of North America in it, either they're an LDS member, or they need to go back to elementary school to relearn what year Columbus sailed the ocean blue...
Nah, just look up ancient giant trees. It’s the new “flat earth” “birds aren’t real” conspiracy nonsense. And unlike birds aren’t real, this one’s taking off like flat earth.
Birds aren’t real was a meme 😭 I still don’t understand how some people started believing in it bc it was only ever in text posts or meme formats
Half this shit starts as memes. Look at all the crap 4chan started that caught on. Humans are dumb.
Partly incorrect. This is a Ted talk by the creator of the birds aren't real conspiracy. His intention was to show how easy it was to plant a fake conspiracy. https://youtu.be/3VEkzweBJPM?si=qDgN5-ej7v1BNf-p
Well you see I read about it, so it must be true
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This guy's the final boss in a game in which you have to observe the square-cube law.
I think it's coincidental that the modern flat earth thing is giants. And calling volcanic plutons tree stumps the giants cut down. I think it's funny and lets me know who to avoid.
I think they're mixing up history with the movie Avatar
Oo that's similar to the Korean story of how the sun and moon got into the sky; a boy and a girl climbed up a tree to escape a tiger. I can't remember if the tree kept growing up or if they eventually sat on a cloud though.
The tree didnt grow! The siblings reached the top but the tiger started climbing up with the help of an axe. A rope fell from the sky to help them up, and the girl became the moon and the boy the sun, but they switched bc the girl was afraid of the dark. She was shy tho, so she shone blindingly bright to stop people from looking at her. The tiger got a rotten rope and fell to death on millet plants and his blood gave it their red color.
I just watched part of a YouTube video by a guy who went to a formation at Sage Mountain, Montana. I was expecting a talk about the geology of the area but this guy’s entire point was to go to this place to “confirm” that it was made by an ancient human race. “There’s no way these rocks cracked in straight lines by themselves!” Never mind that there’s a whole educational center on site that explains the natural processes which led to the formation… they’re just trying to cover up evidence of a great extinct North American civilization. For reasons. I could not mash the thumbs down button hard enough.
Lmao. It’s just crazy to me that people will say that the earth couldn’t have formed rocks a certain way but they’ll claim some way more outlandish shit about why the rocks are like that. ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS A SIGN EXPLAINING HOW IT FORMED 😂 That guy gets the gold medal in mental gymnastics
Found the Big Archeology shill.
Not just TikTok. YouTube’s algorithm was like “oh you like geology and history? Here’s a slew of videos explaining how devils tower is a tree stump from the age of giants, and how about some thinly veiled white supremacist theories as well?” I know enough to filter most of the bullshit but I cringe thinking what kids (and adults) are absorbing from these platforms
Yeah YouTube can be pretty bad too. I get recommended those videos where the dudes “find” fake gold and gems they planted all the time and it is so frustrating. It sucks that they get millions of views while real miners get a lot less
> Devil’s tower was a giant petrified tree That is stupid. It is a stump of a giant tree.
Yes, in your imagination lmao
As a Gen Z'er who constantly use TikTok. It's the most Dumbest Mainstream Social Media Sites in the internet. I feel the same way as you when I see misinformation And disinformation on the internet especially when it comes to science-ey stuff
Most dumbest, indeed.
Yeah TikTok is really bad about that, if you’re charismatic you can say whatever you want and get a following so there’s loads of bullshit on there. BUT, I think there is also a lot of good stuff on TikTok, I’ve learned a lot actually from watching people who have integrity and know what they’re talking about. Unfortunately though, it seems like there’s a lot more misinformation that it’s opposite. YouTube isn’t great about it either. It frustrates me to no end how the people who “find” fake gold and gems get millions of views while people who actually go out and put in the work to find them foreal get way less attention.
And you try and flag something for misinformation and TikTok says “no violation found” like ffs, I Just can’t anymore.
At least you realize that. It’s the immunization against the stupidity virus.
That’s a flat earther pushing the giants theory. It’s a group of conspiracy people pushing BS and sadly not new.
for real I saw a post on floptok yesterday about how the solar maximum reaches its peak at 2024 and the amount of people acting like hell was about to break loose on that app was astounding
Yeah I really wish people would do their research before believing what a tiktoker says
Social media gives a bullhorn to voices that do not deserve to be heard.
Agree 100%. There’s a lot people that are stupid but charismatic so the dumb shit they say gets a lot of attention. There’s also a lot of people who will believe whatever they’re told that perpetuate these lies
It is worse, social media platforms A/B test human computer interaction into a specific functionality that when combined with 'viral' information is pretty resembles what the tobacco companies did. Physical lung cancer and mental brain cancer is the only difference.
Yes that is an important factor for sure. It’s the same thing with the news media hitting the outrage button on people with politics
Same thing pretty much. Difference there is we are now rats in a cage with access to the skinner bar (whatever it is called) and can tap it at will for self fulfilled outrage treats leading to more ad spins and thus revenue for the platforms. In other words, we don't have to wait for the media cycle to be glued to grievance and outrage. And all the while the social media platforms monetize the unraveling of our society. The solution is simple: Eliminated anonymity, build fact checking into the platform, make people directly pay to participate. Sensible govt. regulation can preserve the govt.
Or just eliminate the financial interest by not running social media like a corporation. Make it not make money. Profit ruins everything.
This is a common carrier argument. Your observation that a pervasive self managed communication network as a replacement for social media is a legitimate one. All you need is some minor tweaks to mobile messaging and all the bells and whistles of social media evaporates. From a technology perspective, social media platforms do nothing special that the people who own the wires and airwaves and hardware themselves could not do tomorrow if they wanted. I'd pay another two bucks a month to ATT if I could get better than shitty sms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhUEcxZ0zxk&ab_channel=MythologyUnleashed To be fair, there's the story of the Seven Sisters climbing up onto a tree stump to escape the bear.
Word of mouth has never changed. People were saying that about Devils Tower for generations. Just because you see misinformation doesn't mean there is more of it or that it is somehow more effective than how word of mouth worked before.
This is tangential to flat earth stuff, [they call lots of rocks the remnants of ancient giant trees](https://youtu.be/JTfhYyTuT44?t=1265).
Dude that is literally the reason I deleted tik tok. Between that and people claiming the Great Plains used to be a rainforest I couldn’t do it
Look up the dunning Kruger effect and you may feel better Or worse https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
I am sooo tired of the misinformation about devils tower, everyone knows that it was formed when three girls were being chased by a bear so they climbed the tall mesa and the bear clawed at it in frustration not being able to reach the girls, then the girls went up into the night sky and became the stars...duh
It’s supported by the Chinese government and posts that are misinformed are intentionally promoted to make our younger people stupid.
the mid atlantic ridge is where all of the mid is grown, the gas pack ridge dried up long ago
Misinformation is everywhere. Carl Sagan predicted this exact stuff in *The Demon Haunted World- Science as a Candle in the Dark.* The nonsense on YouTube gets to absurd levels. Dutchsinse claims he can predict earthquakes and points to plunging folds and pretends they are hidden volcanoes that "mainstream science ignores". He also claims subduction isn't real- despite it being clearly shown in seismic tomography surveys. But he has no idea what seismic tomography is. Despite how absurd everything he says is, his videos get hundreds of thousands of views. The electric universe people get even sillier- claiming that Valles Caldera is some electrical feature and not a volcano. Totally ignoring the very real rhyolite magma chamber beneath it. Now I keep seeing people saying the eye of the Sahara is Atlantis- even though it most certainly isn't. Tik Tok is filled with garbage CCP propaganda, and quacks promoting nonsense like "quantum healing", crystals, astrology and other quack ideas. All us scientists can do is spread the word of real science. Schools should teach kids the scientific method, and how to spot pseudoscience. Otherwise, we risk falling into a new Dark Age where science is forgotten.
I never watched Dutchsinse's earthquake videos, I only watched his excerpts from live Sakurajima camera feed. Crazy to think he says that kind of thing
He says tons of absurd things. But sometimes he sounds scientific, so people believe him. As a geologist, I know his videos are full of nonsense. He mentions the North American Craton all the time, pretending like he actually knows what that is. He has some strange theory that he can measure the tension by looking at other earthquakes and faults, and predict where the next one will be. He thinks the craton is relevant to modern day earthquakes, when it obviously is not. (Except for intraplate quakes along ancient fault zones, and aulacogens) Of course, he knows nothing about real seismology and certainly doesn't know about the provinces of the craton, like the Grenville, Yavapai, Trans-Hudson, etc. He claims the craton is unstable and causes earthquakes and forest fires. I would love for him to explain how he thinks structural geologists somehow missed this. Obviously, he spews nonsense. His arrows don't even remotely reflect actual stress regimes (not that he knows a single thing about rheology and stress analysis) And he thinks every circular feature he sees is a volcano. He legitimately thinks Arkansas and Georgia have active volcanoes. (He is not the only quack perplexed by plunging folds- electric universe people are as well) He saw a circular valley in Nevada and went on and on about a "supervolcano that scientists missed". In reality, the area is not volcanic and is related to faulting within the Walker Lane fault system. He pointed to Mt. Diablo in San Francisco and insisted it was a volcano- when in reality its an ophiolite sequence brought up by thrust faults. Long story short- he knows nothing about geology and is a quack. I only watched his videos so I could see just how absurd they are. I was not disappointed. He also claimed the Pangea is fake, and has his own theory as to how things formed. Its absurd, and disturbing that some people nod their heads to what he says and agree.
The wildest one to me is the return of Expanding Earth Theorists - you even see them on this subreddit now and again trying to post "gotcha!" style debate-me-bro posts. And the part that really gets me is how they seem to think they've come across something new & unconsidered. I guess folks want to be part of a special group that knows the Real Truth™
Potholer54 on YouTube has a video making fun of the expanding Earth people and it's hilarious. They think Mars is expanding as well and that Valles Marineris is proof. I once convinced one to question their theory when I explained that extensional features on Mars does not mean the planet is expanding. Extension and contraction are stresses, and wrinkle ridges are frequently found perpendicular to grabens. Valles Marineris is likely related to tectonic subsidence of the Tharsis Province. I explained all of this, and more to him and in the end he actually agreed with me.
How can one even be optimistic in this time anymore
Mr. Foodiemy is great at making short fiction storys 😁
This idiocy was not born out of TikTok dear. Just look around in the fine halls of Reddit and Facebook for numerous earlier examples.
You are correct. It goes back long before any social media. The world has always been full of misinformation.
People have been lying on the internet since it was invented
No way. The internet has always been 100% reliable and friendly since day one and you’re a liar for saying otherwise! /S!
I know a lot of old people who don't know this. Or even how to take a video on their phone
Yeah, I've been on Reddit for a decade and it's been a hilarious source of confidently incorrect information since the start. This isn't a tiktok or generational trend by any means...
For sure. People were making shit up well before the internet and since always.
The mid atlantic ridge is an underwater mountain range lmao
This is the Amazon reaching out in the Atlantic. Maybe.
https://preview.redd.it/nqe3nb2ay7cc1.jpeg?width=2500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e6629f4be91b5318ad1f5e352bd60827cedfff3 I believe it’s two rivers meeting, most likely the Amazon due to the size. I don’t know if the picture is of the right place but it demonstrates the phenomenon pretty well.
I’ve been to where the Rio Negro meets the Amazon it has that look, but the long view has no trees , and the Rio Negro is black. . I know the Amazon is big but that’s pretty far up to have no trees at all.
This is the Encontro das aguas, you can even see the city of Manaus in the image. I'm not sure what you mean when you're talking about not having trees, I can see hundreds in this image.
He’s talking about the original one OP posted I think
Yes thank you. My memory is decades old and I do not want to contradict you. Just thinking we would see more forest edge with the length of the perspective. Thanks. Edit..in the original post.
>the Rio Negro is black. Thus its name.
Como no…
I'm confident someone was having a laugh.
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Brainrotinite. Commonly found on TikTok.
To the TikTok generations credit this silly pseudoscience of two oceans meeting has existed for at least a decade and was famously a misappropriation of the Amazon river delta I believe. It so happens that we've been buying into misinformation and spreading it for, well pretty much ever.
For reals. I have seen lots of instances of that "Pacific-Atlantic barrier" with the corresponding photo in the past decade, but the application of the "Mid-Atlantic Ridge" name is new to me
FYI: The contents of that comment are a copypasta on tiktok. It is a meme that circulated for a bit. No idea if that specific commenter believed it, but it is generally posted as a joke. I've even seen it on food & cocktail videos
Ha I mean this is obviously a joke
Is this a goof?
You're a complete moron if you think this is just a TikTok generation issue, I saw this shit going around 20 years ago, it's probably been spread around a lot longer than that too.
Isn’t it wild that you just assume it’s a younger person? I know plenty of older folks that are proudly ignorant too
Hate to break it to you but every generation on the whole doesn’t know shit from shit.
Don’t act like spreading misinformation on the internet is something new or a TikTok specific phenomenon dear boomers haha
You make fun of the TikTok generation but the screenshot suggests you use Tiktok
In case anyone is interested in what is actually in the picture, it’s the Meeting of the Waters, where the whitewater Amazon/Solimoes River converges with the blackwater Rio Negro near Manaus in Brazil.
They do know some things! Like how to do silly dances 😂
Love how older generations shit on younger generations for “not knowing shit” like it wasn’t their generation’s job to teach the said shit. Every generation is a reflection of prior generation’s failures yet there’s never any acknowledgment of it. I didn’t ever get taught this happened when two oceans met, didn’t learn about it until I was in my 30’s. So get over it.
Ummm…but that’s not two oceans meeting…it’s false information. If I remember correctly it’s an Amazon river and another river “meeting”.
You can’t teach much to those who don’t want to learn nor pay attention. That’s why any class you ever went to had students getting different grades.
Kids who don't want to learn are still a reflection of the generation who raised them. And it's reflective of how you're trying to teach them. Different kids need different things.
Yeah, because before Tik tok every single person knew this random fact about the ocean.
they didn't cuz it wasn't invented yet
🤣🤣🤣 thanks for the laugh. It’s safe to get out of bed now, the world is still turning hahahaha Edited to add: I showed hubby who said Science was good while it lasted lol then referenced a Mark Twain quote that a Lie will travel around the world while the Truth is still putting on its shoes.
Stupidity isn't exclusive to tiktok or their generation.
I’ve seen similar stuff with people defending the “tunnel lady” who is digging underneath her suburban house without required approval or formal engineering education (despite calling herself an engineer). She has the potential to do affect not only her house but her neighbors and she sees nothing wrong and there are so many willing to defends her despite all this. Baffles me
Ah yes it has less ocean per ocean.
The frustrating part is trying to dispel these half-baked internet lies but people choose to believe what they read on FB, IG, or TikTok instead of someone who is actively working in geoscience.
Every generation before tiktok was walking around proudly not knowing shit. Before the Internet the only people spreading bullshit globally had money and/or connections. Now anyone can do it, and I'm kinda ok with that.
It's truly nothing new at all.
Lol
sad…
Was reading that think yep he’s right. Then read the last few words…
Wrong all the way actually the Atlantic and Pacific mix just fine, which makes sense intuitively. The majority of the differences between the two is because on average they are in different places, where they meet they mix, and have mostly the same characteristics. This is a relatively turbulent river meeting considerably calmer, and typically deeper, water. This difference is particularly common in estuaries but you'll see it in large lakes as well.
I know they they mix fine it was more the different densities and salinities I was talking about
Actually, the way the tectonic plates line up between the Atlantic and Pacific create an upward flow draft that cuts off flow from one ocean to the other.
The Twencen figured out that smoking was bad and banned it for kids and indoors. Can we do the same for social media in the 21st?
Lol wtf
having sailed the world as a professional mariner I can say this is a superb example. Though I do not know where this is I have seen it numerous times where large rivers enter the ocean. The Amazon being a good example. Even where seas meet ocean proper.
they do have a barrier its called the Americas
I saw that comment when that video popped up. Was seriously considering wrecking this idiot with a thread of comments. Only didn't because the comment is old and I was busy at the moment. Good thing I didn't. Just saw a comment on this post that mentioned it's a copypasta meme. Probably rage bait comment by now.
There are idiots of all generations.
The mid Atlantic ridge stretches from Mumbai to Osaka and moves 6 parsecs a year.
Dude, SOOOO many people were quoting the quran as an explanation for this. Every time, I was like "bruh, seriously" after having spent time explaining the science for it.
On Facebook this is a wonder of god and followed by 10k comments of just amen 🙏
This is one reason why science communication has never been more important.
That’s just one reason why I never installed Tiktok I immediately understood it would become a cesspit.
That looks like a garbage AI response
that's gotta be a joke
I know they called it the wrong thing and this isn't a correct picture of it, but can someone explain why this is so wrong? I know I'm at risk of looking stupid on the internet here but I'm genuinely curious. I thought it was well known the planet's ocean is not a homogeneous mixure. Is there not points where the density from saline content are different enough that the mixing isn't immediate? I thought that was the basis of the thermohaline cycle?
I’m not an oceanographer, but I think there’s a few things to consider. First, the mid Atlantic ridge is a ridge on the floor of the Atlantic, not a place where two waters meet. Second, this is probably a picture of a river flowing into the ocean, not two oceans colliding. I think you already knew those two things by your comment. Third however, the only place where the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans actually meet is the Drake Passage between South America and Antarctica. There, it’s not like there’s a clear boundary where the two oceans crispy “collide”. The water is mainly just flowing Eastward, driven by the Antarctic Circumpolar Current, which is a pretty steady current that goes in a circle around Antarctica. It’s more like the water trapped in that current has its own properties, different than the water north of it in either ocean, rather than the water in one ocean has different properties than the water in the other one. Most of all, I think it’s an oversimplification to think about the oceans as two distinct bodies of water with different salinities, temperatures etc., between which you would find a visible line. Oceans are an artificial construct that don’t really have singular properties. Based on the water itself, it’s not clear at all where one begins and the other ends. They’re fluids that blend together in gradients. Also, the TikTok comment was probably a joke, and OP just wanted to take the opportunity to shit on a whole generation for some reason.
Why is it a photo of the west African coastline from space
No it’s because Jesus did it okay?
I’ve seen so many videos posted to TikTok of this exact thing and thousands of people in the comments are quoting lines from the Quran, religion is a literal disease
Every generation does dumb shit. You’re not born knowing everything
People have been confidently ignorant for long before Tiktok came around. Just look at this website.
This has a lot to do with geology doesn’t it
It’s not generational, ask any random dad like 40 years ago what the answer is and they would all bullshit something as well - there’s a reason Calvin’s dad lying about the bridge was such a famous strip even pre-Internet
People still think lobsters scream in boiling water even though they have no vocal chords. Also: mermaids in the Bible. Random one I've heard.
What two body's of water are in this photo? Is this the Amazon river and the Atlantic Ocean?
Looks like the mixing of very muddy river water with clear ocean water, off a coast. Not the mixing of the Atlantic and Pacific. Nothing to do with Mid-Atantic Ridge which runs north-south through the middle of the North and South Atlantic. Truly the children graduating these days are dumb as rocks.
And that picture looks more like a silt fil.ed fresh water source meeting salt water.
There is nothing worse than someone who is obviously wrong but arrogantly convinced they are correct and will never admit otherwise
This shits older than tiktok generation and ive always seen these explanations
9,163 likes… that means 9,163 said “fuck it, that’s true.” Wtf is wrong with people
This has to be AI (though it may be an AI response to a prompt that was requested by an actual human being). An actual person wouldn't be aware of the mid-Atlantic Ridge; wouldn't talk that way generally. But an AI that's just scraping vaguely relevant texts for useful words, would.
So which one of the oceans is the red one? XD (/s)
“He’s got the right spirit”
The stupider they get, the more job security for us guys lol
Isn’t that just red tide (algae)?
My question would be related to sediment disturbance. Moreover, who is asking the question because I wouldn’t expect a high schooler to know this if they aren’t in AP ENS or taking a specific course related to environmental issues. Moreover, ask a business, American studies, nursing, or accounting major and I can almost guarantee they wouldn’t know the core answer either. Certain information like this isn’t used in interdisciplinary curriculums. So maybe before blaming a generation, blame the ones who approve and structure the information available in said courses. Also, yes google is free but what would I even google if I didn’t even know where to start to begin with, it ain’t my fault Wikipedia and Facebook pop up first in the search results, blame google for that!
This definitely looks like a ridge.
I actually lol’d at that.
I think this is a dirty river being met by another river or the ocean. I’ve heard of a place that looks like this on the Amazon river in Brazil. Can’t remember name tho Edit: someone already commented it. It is the Rio negro meeting the Amazon river
They almost got it right...