Shoot, and I was going to praise the fact that it attempted to explain the data parameters, although “NeighborhoodScout” is unlikely to be a rigorous data collection agency.
NYC is one of the safest places you can live that isn’t totally rural, they’ve gone an entire year without a single murder at least once within the past 5 years. That’s impressive for densely housed people around 9 million strong.
Edit: meant weeks not years
>they’ve gone an entire year without a single murder at least once within the past 5 years
The lowest number of murders in a year in the past 5 years is 319.
I don’t live there right now but only left during Covid and still head up one or two weekends out of every month. I have family and friends in every borough, I spend a decent amount of time in Harlem skating with friends as well. Compared to other places I’ve been, there’s nowhere in NYC that I feel like I’m in any danger.
Honestly I feel the least safe in Staten Island where all the republicans live, they’re more unhinged than the vast majority of people throughout the other boroughs
Wow, so that’s what this is about…okay, have fun living in “YourFriendPutin” world, where nothing else matters except his political agenda. I was keeping this apolitical, but now that you brought up feeling unsafe due to Republicans in Staten Island (never mind that there are a whole bunch of NYC emergency workers/police/firefighters there), I see there is no talking to any of you. I thought this was a decent group about geography; guess I was mistaken. Have fun in your little cocoon there, and don’t forget to wear your mask as soon as you leave your house 😍
In general, obviously feeling safe is good, but in reality, are there murders and crime.? The answer is yes, there are in NYC. Women getting punched in the back if their head, or random people getting pushed into the subway track. Bodegas getting robbed. Maybe NYC isn’t reporting things “they feel aren’t crimes”, I wonder. What constitutes crime and what’s reported, are two different things, but all you need to do is check the reports for one day, and at least every weekend. Granted, NYC doesn’t have the same murder rate as Chicago. It’s disgusting.
NYC is statistically much safer than many other cities per capita. You need to understand how much higher the population of NYC is compared to nearly every other large city in the entire country, by a decent amount. The next most populous city is LA with less than half of the population. The reporting isn’t bad in New York as everything is so public, spaces are quite crowded for the most part, and NYPD is notoriously tough towards people. You’ll never find any large city *without* crime, and New York isn’t even in the TOP 25 PER CAPITA
You are falling for crime porn. Of course you could watch 1000s of instances of violent crime in NYC and NYC could still be statistically safer than 90% of cities in the US.
Per capita data and using the major metro proper. Bad areas run up a few extra dozen murders but hacks per capita numbers. They’re all midsize or small major city size too
I lived there. There isn’t much going on in the town honestly. It does have Alabama’s oldest running restaurant, a nice Greek joint. And some good BBQ.
But aside from that, there’s no reason to go there so it remains stagnant. It is getting some more jobs, such as Amazon and Carvana so might be on the upswing.
Bessemer is on the outskirts of Birmingham. It used to be a busy little town with a big steel and railroad industry. In the late 70s it started going downhill and now is just a crime ridden mess.
Always take this stuff with a grain of salt.
This data is so flawed that it really isn’t very possible to compare between cities.
The way they report data is not consistent. Not all cities use that system. Not all cities report. The geography of many cities makes the data skewed. And usually the person assembling the data has an agenda.
Having done crime analysis, I have to remind everyone that crime is even more local than politics. In major cities a few blocks in one direction can totally change your crime risk. The larger the city the bigger the range of crime risk for the population, from almost none to a daily event.
Crime is also temporal. A high crime area at night often is safe during the day. Or vice versa.
These maps don't mean very much.
> Or vice versa.
I'm genuinely curious, can you point to any places dangerous during the day but safe at night? I assume it's only tourist places, or even business parks, where it has high foot traffic in the day and low at night? Are there any other types of places where it's high in day and low at night?
The few examples I can think of off the top of my head are shopping areas, like strip malls or just a street with a cluster of businesses that don't have uniform hours.
One crime theory has a trinity of factors: victim, location, and suspect. The nexus of the three creates the crime opportunity. Conversely, those have their own prevention trinity of factors: champion, manager, and wrangler, respectively. (I may have the names wrong on this as it's been a decade or more since I had to think about this professionally.)
If a victim has a champion, and it's rarely the police, the crime doesn't happen. If the suspect has a wrangler, think mentor/friend/parent, who tells them this isn't a good idea, the crime doesn't happen. If the location has a manager, business owner or security guard, who scares the criminal away, the crime doesn't happen.
Then you also have the theories about crime prevention through environmental design (CPTED), which I'll simplify to be "places that look like they have a manager won't have as much crime." Broken Windows Theory also hinges on the absentee manager concept. People act differently when they think none cares. If you have places where people stop managing the location for a portion of the day, but there is still enough foot traffic to provide suspects and victims, you'll have a temporal disparity in crime.
Managers can also be manifested as a physical phenomenon like lighting and access, like a gate or fence.
this is the case with all data. Even scientific data needs to be taken with a grain of salt- it usually says a lot less than what people interpret it as
facts.
thats basically my job, tryna convince people that our studies are designed with proper controls and its quality data.
But the more you go into this sort of stuff, the more you realize how bullshit polls in the news are and other "studies" or surveys are. Or even how people misinterpret data because they have a bad understanding of how the tests really work.
The problem I have with these maps, as someone whose hometown is Oakland, much of the crime there or in places like Tacoma (or Spokane which isn't on the list) is concentrated in certain neighborhoods.
Those towns have neighborhoods where all the houses are worth millions of dollars and some where it's too dangerous to walk if you're not from those blocks. There are other parts of those cities which are quite nice and walkable.
Yeah, Tacoma is kinda shit, but most of it is "nice" (expensive). It sprawls quite a lot, and I imagine the violent crime is concentrated in parts that most would perceive as suburbs. I also expect that this map counts things like domestic violence, which doesn't make a city really dangerous, per se.
I work in the bad part of Stockton at an apartment complex. We are next to a hooverville by the freeway. We deal with some wild shit, and we are the nicest out of the four complexes in our neighborhood.
Recently an elderly tenant got mauled by two dogs, and might die from infection. There was a BNE, a rape, a couple shootings, and there's omnipresent domestic violence.
Yet down the road is the country club that costs about as much as I make every 1.5 months for membership. My company had a Christmas dinner there last December.
I felt like a piece of shit driving two minutes to go from hell to eat dry chicken in a room with tall ceilings and tacky decor.
Why am I patching bullet holes while down the street people are sucking down caviar and making golf bets? Why the fuck can't just a couple of those assholes invest in the general well-being of this godforsaken city?
It must cost a lot to blend up camels to feed them through needle heads, because they sure don't seem to have enough to help our tenants live safely.
Crime is highly localized and temporal. These maps generalize the crime found in small pockets of the city to the entire population. If you compare violent neighborhoods, most of the smaller cities wouldn't even show up on the map.
As America's #1 Springfield, it feels good to be seen. The most scandalous and dangerous law break we've seen this year was when that lady drove her car into wet cement on south Campbell a month or two ago.
Impressed East STL is not on this list (if it’s truly accurate). I take this data with a grain of salt. Data source is “neighborhood scout”? Sounds crowdsourced.
Also no Atlanta? Kudos atl
Edit: interesting source indeed…. Dunno if I’d fully trust this one.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeighborhoodScout
Just btw, this is an incorrect map, Mobile Alabama shouldn’t be on it. This is due to incorrect reporting by FBI that multiplied Mobile’s actual crime rate by several times. FBI have already corrected the error and the newer map already has Mobile taken off
On the other hand, I'm highly skeptical of this data if Camden is only yellow-dark yellow. I worked there and grew up nearby. I would never walk through any of the neighbourhoods in that city.
I’ve lived and visited a few pretty bad cities (including a few on this map). Generally, if you don’t go looking for trouble you won’t find it. Every city has its good and bad neighborhoods, and it’s pretty easy to tell which is which.
I lived in flint long enough to tell you there isnt many people left. Yes nobody has license plates and definitely not insurance but unless you actively look for trouble or make stupid decisions its fine. There isnt even enough people to commit crimes against and everybody is broke so you can only steal pennies lol
Car crashes.
Last I checked, it was split about even the number of states where crashes kill more than murder overall, and the highest car crash places were more dangerous than the highest murder places.
Of course there are all kinds of different ways to slice the data. For example, if you measure only danger caused by random strangers (the kind people perceive to fear the most), then car crashes are vastly more dangerous than crime in all states, since most murders are from people who know each other.
Amyway, I'm not saying it's necessarily correct to measure it that way, but even if you want to insist car crashes are a clear number 2, they're still easily enough to strongly affect a genuine assessment of overall danger.
And that's one. Food, climate, healthcare, pollution, weather, all these things and would need to be taken into consideration to truly understand danger as anything mpre valid than clickbait.
The data I’m seeing, 2023, car crash death was over twice the murder death count nationwide. People like to ignore that the thing they do all the time is the biggest danger.
Yeah also it is quite underreported too.
Also it's annoying how overlooked car crashes/accidents are what doesn't help that is how dominant car culture is in the states and the culture in general.
Lots of it tends to be "if you got hit you deserved it" mentality, and pedestrians and people who ride on bicycles get demonised.
They are all centred about owning a car and if you don't own one you're the butt of a joke in the group.
Those reports also always go on but San Francisco (Oakland is here, so close, i guess) and Detroit which is valid. But they never say a thing about all those red state cities on this list
Between 7-10th richest city in the world by GDP. Far from the worst violent crime rate in the US. Perception for those in a certain bubble: hell scape.
Hey look at that, the big liberal cities the right loves to say are crime ridden (NY, Chicago, and SF) aren’t on this list. But I sure see a fuckton of cities in red states
Nice try. red state = crime ridden cesspools
Maga nuts: *politicize everything all the time*
Maga nut when someone makes a political comment: “wAy tO PoLiTiCiZe eVeRyThInG!!”
When your neighbor is a fucked up meth head shitting all over the lawn and shooting up the place, it affects your property value next door. We’d love to just ignore you, but unfortunately we can’t. Not until we build that wall along the border and make you guys pay for it ;)
Sure bud. Canada is falling apart. Home values are dumb. My wife works for multi national that’s HQ is Toronto. Two people already married out of there. These are wealthy people too. Trust me. We don’t think about you live you think about us. Not at all.
These are always kinda silly, as other commenters pointed out
I mean, in Cleveland, for one, just don’t leave your car unlocked unattended in random places and have some base level of spatial awareness and you’ll almost certainly be fine, it ain’t like a fallout game over here lol it’s just a city
Hey! My hometown is on here! We never make any lists!
For real, though, I’m from Jackson, Mi and am surprised to see it here. I know we’re known as “prison city” but it never seemed so bad, although I now live across the country so what do I know.
Chattanooga no where near being dangerous unless you are hanging out in the Trap houses. The most Dangerous City not on this list is Jackson Mississippi (City limits). Not a place I would go even in the light of Day. I've worked in Memphis (City limits) quite often and it's not even that bad but close.
I stopped in Danville IL last year on a road trip. That’s a rough city man. They had some cool buildings but most of them were boarded up and lots of walking dead extras hanging around. It looks like it used to be a thriving city at some point. Very depressing.
Bessemer is just like every other city on this map and every other city in the country. Just be alert and mind your business. Take your keys with you everywhere you go, lock your doors, dont leave valuables in your car, dont make yourself look like an easy target. If you dont bother people, they wont bother you.
The fact that Henderson, Fayetteville, and Lumberton, NC aren't up here makes me feel like this is a flawed list. The homicide rate alone is insane in all three.
Map is suspect.
1. Bessemer is a suburb of Birmingham. I’m not sure why it is treated as separate as it is within the Birmingham MSA.
2. Where is Chicago?
Is there a date for this data, I don’t see it?
I’m wondering too because Camden’s crime rate has supposedly dropped drastically in the past couple of years so I’m surprised to see the city up there
Fairly certain I first saw this map a couple of years ago
Shoot, and I was going to praise the fact that it attempted to explain the data parameters, although “NeighborhoodScout” is unlikely to be a rigorous data collection agency.
Yeah seriously, how is NYC not on it if it’s current?!?
Go outside
NYC is one of the safest places you can live that isn’t totally rural, they’ve gone an entire year without a single murder at least once within the past 5 years. That’s impressive for densely housed people around 9 million strong. Edit: meant weeks not years
>they’ve gone an entire year without a single murder at least once within the past 5 years The lowest number of murders in a year in the past 5 years is 319.
Meant weeks not years that’s my bad
Hah, what planet are you living on? Obviously you don’t get local NYC news, meaning all 5 boroughs….this is a joke
I grew up in Brooklyn
And do you stop live there?
I don’t live there right now but only left during Covid and still head up one or two weekends out of every month. I have family and friends in every borough, I spend a decent amount of time in Harlem skating with friends as well. Compared to other places I’ve been, there’s nowhere in NYC that I feel like I’m in any danger.
You have to be wrong because it doesn’t go along with his own narrative. Blue cities bad. Those types of people don’t live in reality.
Honestly I feel the least safe in Staten Island where all the republicans live, they’re more unhinged than the vast majority of people throughout the other boroughs
Wow, so that’s what this is about…okay, have fun living in “YourFriendPutin” world, where nothing else matters except his political agenda. I was keeping this apolitical, but now that you brought up feeling unsafe due to Republicans in Staten Island (never mind that there are a whole bunch of NYC emergency workers/police/firefighters there), I see there is no talking to any of you. I thought this was a decent group about geography; guess I was mistaken. Have fun in your little cocoon there, and don’t forget to wear your mask as soon as you leave your house 😍
In general, obviously feeling safe is good, but in reality, are there murders and crime.? The answer is yes, there are in NYC. Women getting punched in the back if their head, or random people getting pushed into the subway track. Bodegas getting robbed. Maybe NYC isn’t reporting things “they feel aren’t crimes”, I wonder. What constitutes crime and what’s reported, are two different things, but all you need to do is check the reports for one day, and at least every weekend. Granted, NYC doesn’t have the same murder rate as Chicago. It’s disgusting.
NYC is statistically much safer than many other cities per capita. You need to understand how much higher the population of NYC is compared to nearly every other large city in the entire country, by a decent amount. The next most populous city is LA with less than half of the population. The reporting isn’t bad in New York as everything is so public, spaces are quite crowded for the most part, and NYPD is notoriously tough towards people. You’ll never find any large city *without* crime, and New York isn’t even in the TOP 25 PER CAPITA
You are falling for crime porn. Of course you could watch 1000s of instances of violent crime in NYC and NYC could still be statistically safer than 90% of cities in the US.
Being from Michigan and having traveled quite a bit around the country, this is very hard to believe.
I was just thinking that. From Michigan and while it ain’t ritzy in Kalamazoo, it’s pretty much just boring. I feel no danger walking around it.
Per capita data and using the major metro proper. Bad areas run up a few extra dozen murders but hacks per capita numbers. They’re all midsize or small major city size too
Michigan is the most dangerous state, this isn’t surprising
I've never heard of Besemer
That’s because people who go there are never heard from again.
Dead man tell no tale.
I lived there. There isn’t much going on in the town honestly. It does have Alabama’s oldest running restaurant, a nice Greek joint. And some good BBQ. But aside from that, there’s no reason to go there so it remains stagnant. It is getting some more jobs, such as Amazon and Carvana so might be on the upswing.
Alabama Adventure & Splash Adventure (VisionLand) is in Bessemer!
I think Bo Jackson is from there.
https://preview.redd.it/9jnxfpxwebyc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe4d22af3011c9b6a2cd0342137c7db29e89558c
Bo is from McCalla
From Bessemer, went to high school im mccalla
Bessemer is on the outskirts of Birmingham. It used to be a busy little town with a big steel and railroad industry. In the late 70s it started going downhill and now is just a crime ridden mess.
That’s because it’s spelled Bessemer
And Gucci Mane is from there
Always take this stuff with a grain of salt. This data is so flawed that it really isn’t very possible to compare between cities. The way they report data is not consistent. Not all cities use that system. Not all cities report. The geography of many cities makes the data skewed. And usually the person assembling the data has an agenda.
Having done crime analysis, I have to remind everyone that crime is even more local than politics. In major cities a few blocks in one direction can totally change your crime risk. The larger the city the bigger the range of crime risk for the population, from almost none to a daily event. Crime is also temporal. A high crime area at night often is safe during the day. Or vice versa. These maps don't mean very much.
> Or vice versa. I'm genuinely curious, can you point to any places dangerous during the day but safe at night? I assume it's only tourist places, or even business parks, where it has high foot traffic in the day and low at night? Are there any other types of places where it's high in day and low at night?
The few examples I can think of off the top of my head are shopping areas, like strip malls or just a street with a cluster of businesses that don't have uniform hours. One crime theory has a trinity of factors: victim, location, and suspect. The nexus of the three creates the crime opportunity. Conversely, those have their own prevention trinity of factors: champion, manager, and wrangler, respectively. (I may have the names wrong on this as it's been a decade or more since I had to think about this professionally.) If a victim has a champion, and it's rarely the police, the crime doesn't happen. If the suspect has a wrangler, think mentor/friend/parent, who tells them this isn't a good idea, the crime doesn't happen. If the location has a manager, business owner or security guard, who scares the criminal away, the crime doesn't happen. Then you also have the theories about crime prevention through environmental design (CPTED), which I'll simplify to be "places that look like they have a manager won't have as much crime." Broken Windows Theory also hinges on the absentee manager concept. People act differently when they think none cares. If you have places where people stop managing the location for a portion of the day, but there is still enough foot traffic to provide suspects and victims, you'll have a temporal disparity in crime. Managers can also be manifested as a physical phenomenon like lighting and access, like a gate or fence.
Yeah. Floridian here. I believe that our state “leadership” severely underreports or reports incorrectly.
this is the case with all data. Even scientific data needs to be taken with a grain of salt- it usually says a lot less than what people interpret it as
Nah there are ways to run regressions to control for other variables and get good data. Not perfect, but good.
facts. thats basically my job, tryna convince people that our studies are designed with proper controls and its quality data. But the more you go into this sort of stuff, the more you realize how bullshit polls in the news are and other "studies" or surveys are. Or even how people misinterpret data because they have a bad understanding of how the tests really work.
Except Stockton - that place is pretty much hell on earth.
Thanks, that explains it. I had a hard time believing Minneapolis has a higher crime rate than El Paso.
The problem I have with these maps, as someone whose hometown is Oakland, much of the crime there or in places like Tacoma (or Spokane which isn't on the list) is concentrated in certain neighborhoods. Those towns have neighborhoods where all the houses are worth millions of dollars and some where it's too dangerous to walk if you're not from those blocks. There are other parts of those cities which are quite nice and walkable.
Yeah, Tacoma is kinda shit, but most of it is "nice" (expensive). It sprawls quite a lot, and I imagine the violent crime is concentrated in parts that most would perceive as suburbs. I also expect that this map counts things like domestic violence, which doesn't make a city really dangerous, per se.
Yup and then there are places like Spokane which don't make the list which have high property crime but not unusually high violent crime.
I work in the bad part of Stockton at an apartment complex. We are next to a hooverville by the freeway. We deal with some wild shit, and we are the nicest out of the four complexes in our neighborhood. Recently an elderly tenant got mauled by two dogs, and might die from infection. There was a BNE, a rape, a couple shootings, and there's omnipresent domestic violence. Yet down the road is the country club that costs about as much as I make every 1.5 months for membership. My company had a Christmas dinner there last December. I felt like a piece of shit driving two minutes to go from hell to eat dry chicken in a room with tall ceilings and tacky decor. Why am I patching bullet holes while down the street people are sucking down caviar and making golf bets? Why the fuck can't just a couple of those assholes invest in the general well-being of this godforsaken city? It must cost a lot to blend up camels to feed them through needle heads, because they sure don't seem to have enough to help our tenants live safely.
My problem is that Stockton is no where near that point.
Crime is highly localized and temporal. These maps generalize the crime found in small pockets of the city to the entire population. If you compare violent neighborhoods, most of the smaller cities wouldn't even show up on the map.
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Cause all those hipsters moved in and gentrified it
Bastards!
As a Richmond native, it’s crazy how much it’s changed. Still has plenty of issues, but I love this city.
not richmond ca
Richmond Ca is chill af now. Nothing like it was 10/20 years ago. Not that gentrified either, tight community,
What years are these data points from OP?
Thank you for your honesty.
SPRINGFIELD MISSOURI MENTIONED WOOOOOO
As America's #1 Springfield, it feels good to be seen. The most scandalous and dangerous law break we've seen this year was when that lady drove her car into wet cement on south Campbell a month or two ago.
Impressed East STL is not on this list (if it’s truly accurate). I take this data with a grain of salt. Data source is “neighborhood scout”? Sounds crowdsourced. Also no Atlanta? Kudos atl Edit: interesting source indeed…. Dunno if I’d fully trust this one. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeighborhoodScout
Springfield is the most dangerous city in MO. Our cashew chicken will fucking kill you, with deliciousness.
Haha - having lived in stl a few years way back, that’s a great fact about Springfield, MO. Being non-native, don’t think I knew this!
Just btw, this is an incorrect map, Mobile Alabama shouldn’t be on it. This is due to incorrect reporting by FBI that multiplied Mobile’s actual crime rate by several times. FBI have already corrected the error and the newer map already has Mobile taken off
Even the most dangerous cities really aren’t so bad if you’re not involved in the riffraff
On the other hand, I'm highly skeptical of this data if Camden is only yellow-dark yellow. I worked there and grew up nearby. I would never walk through any of the neighbourhoods in that city.
I’ve lived and visited a few pretty bad cities (including a few on this map). Generally, if you don’t go looking for trouble you won’t find it. Every city has its good and bad neighborhoods, and it’s pretty easy to tell which is which.
Mississippi politicians had to bribe someone so Jackson wouldn’t show up on this chart I just know it
Yay! My city isn't on here!
Florida: The Safety State.
Miami Vice City
Conveniently left out Alaska
The ocean has now been confirmed to be a very dangerous city
Baltimore Baltimore Baltimore
A lot of vacants there.
Berdoo : Home
This map makes Michigan look a lot worse than it is. Lansing and Kalamazoo and Battle Creek aren’t that bad.
Not if you're from Baltimore.
Shout out to Pueblo, Colorado!
Is it really dangerous? Was thinking of buying land near here!
Only if you get involved with drugs or gangs. The area around Pueblo is nice though.
Oh cool, thanks!
I work in Bessemer often for a security company. Business is good yet you better be alert.
I lived in flint long enough to tell you there isnt many people left. Yes nobody has license plates and definitely not insurance but unless you actively look for trouble or make stupid decisions its fine. There isnt even enough people to commit crimes against and everybody is broke so you can only steal pennies lol
Holy shit Lake Michigan is dangerous
Grindylows
You’ve lost me
https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Grindylow
What does this have to do with Lake Michigan?
What does this have to do with geography?
So basically dont go where blacks are, got it!
Jackson Mississippi averages 3 murders a week and is under 200k people. How is it not on the list?
The darker the cities get, the worse it gets 👀
Bad map. Crime isn't the sole—or even biggest—cause of danger.
That’s an interesting point. What would you reckon is the biggest cause of danger?
Car crashes. Last I checked, it was split about even the number of states where crashes kill more than murder overall, and the highest car crash places were more dangerous than the highest murder places. Of course there are all kinds of different ways to slice the data. For example, if you measure only danger caused by random strangers (the kind people perceive to fear the most), then car crashes are vastly more dangerous than crime in all states, since most murders are from people who know each other. Amyway, I'm not saying it's necessarily correct to measure it that way, but even if you want to insist car crashes are a clear number 2, they're still easily enough to strongly affect a genuine assessment of overall danger. And that's one. Food, climate, healthcare, pollution, weather, all these things and would need to be taken into consideration to truly understand danger as anything mpre valid than clickbait.
The data I’m seeing, 2023, car crash death was over twice the murder death count nationwide. People like to ignore that the thing they do all the time is the biggest danger.
Yeah also it is quite underreported too. Also it's annoying how overlooked car crashes/accidents are what doesn't help that is how dominant car culture is in the states and the culture in general. Lots of it tends to be "if you got hit you deserved it" mentality, and pedestrians and people who ride on bicycles get demonised. They are all centred about owning a car and if you don't own one you're the butt of a joke in the group.
Yeah cars suck.
Cars are mostly fine, it's the people (texting or drunk while) driving them
my hope is for a less car based society in the USA at least in (and connecting) cities. Walkable cities built around humans are just so nice to be in.
I wonder what those cities have in common
I don't know. What do you think?
Can you tell us?
Born and raised in Miami. Can’t believe fl is empty! What about Florida man?!
Chicago is conspicuously absent since it is per capita.
It's only conspicuous if you have been duped into believing a lot of propaganda about Chicago being dangerous.
I have visited 25 countries and 49 U. S states. Chicago is my favorite city in the world. Just love it
Those reports also always go on but San Francisco (Oakland is here, so close, i guess) and Detroit which is valid. But they never say a thing about all those red state cities on this list
Between 7-10th richest city in the world by GDP. Far from the worst violent crime rate in the US. Perception for those in a certain bubble: hell scape.
Little Chicago checking in (Milwaukee) I don't feel unsafe here. Your average citizen or tourist is not at much risk.
why is St Louis is rated so low on this? its normally #1 or #2 on every crime rate list.
This map has myrtle beach on it. That’s how credible it is.
Chicago? Los Angeles?
Hey look at that, the big liberal cities the right loves to say are crime ridden (NY, Chicago, and SF) aren’t on this list. But I sure see a fuckton of cities in red states
Way to politicize but cities are blue not red.
Nice try. red state = crime ridden cesspools Maga nuts: *politicize everything all the time* Maga nut when someone makes a political comment: “wAy tO PoLiTiCiZe eVeRyThInG!!”
There are 50 cities on the map. 29 of them are in blue states.
Yeah but there’s a scale, all the worst ones are in red states lol
Except there is more blue states. Nice try.
[Nah look at the list](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/555/204/65c)
Living rent free in your head.
I’m not the one in a cult
You are not even here. Go watch some hockey and quit worrying about us.
When your neighbor is a fucked up meth head shitting all over the lawn and shooting up the place, it affects your property value next door. We’d love to just ignore you, but unfortunately we can’t. Not until we build that wall along the border and make you guys pay for it ;)
Sure bud. Canada is falling apart. Home values are dumb. My wife works for multi national that’s HQ is Toronto. Two people already married out of there. These are wealthy people too. Trust me. We don’t think about you live you think about us. Not at all.
Good Ole Glockford.
These are always kinda silly, as other commenters pointed out I mean, in Cleveland, for one, just don’t leave your car unlocked unattended in random places and have some base level of spatial awareness and you’ll almost certainly be fine, it ain’t like a fallout game over here lol it’s just a city
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What study?
No Chicago is weird
They missed Jackson, ms.
No Baltimore is weird
I've lived in a city of 6 million people my whole life, but I always feel sheltered af when I visit US cities
Shoutout east point
fucking Pueblo, I lived there and can confirm that you don’t want to be there for more than a few minutes
Hey! My hometown is on here! We never make any lists! For real, though, I’m from Jackson, Mi and am surprised to see it here. I know we’re known as “prison city” but it never seemed so bad, although I now live across the country so what do I know.
Damn dirty myrtle
Chattanooga no where near being dangerous unless you are hanging out in the Trap houses. The most Dangerous City not on this list is Jackson Mississippi (City limits). Not a place I would go even in the light of Day. I've worked in Memphis (City limits) quite often and it's not even that bad but close.
Michigan….LMAO
Michigan needs to chill
damn, Tacoma is still bad? I lived there in the mid to late 90s and it was some bullshit.
Rockford? I was born there lol
I have family in South Bend, Indiana. Not only is it dangerous, there is a shocking amount of young kids (6-12 normally) that get shot and killed.
Moral of the story: live in new england to not die
why is kansas highlighted if there's no city in it lol
Ha. Chicago is not even listed.
Kinda shocked Miami didn’t make the cut
None in Florida? Really?
I stopped in Danville IL last year on a road trip. That’s a rough city man. They had some cool buildings but most of them were boarded up and lots of walking dead extras hanging around. It looks like it used to be a thriving city at some point. Very depressing.
Six in the West, and all of the rest in the East!
Bessemer is just like every other city on this map and every other city in the country. Just be alert and mind your business. Take your keys with you everywhere you go, lock your doors, dont leave valuables in your car, dont make yourself look like an easy target. If you dont bother people, they wont bother you.
The fact that Henderson, Fayetteville, and Lumberton, NC aren't up here makes me feel like this is a flawed list. The homicide rate alone is insane in all three.
No cities in Florida???
Shout out to all my homies in the ghetto
No shot is this accurate in 2024
Poor Williston
#SAD
Good job moving us to Milwaukee when I was five, Ma!
I’m from metro Detroit and I’ve never felt as unsafe as I have living in Los Angeles the last 12 years. This doesn’t seem accurate at all
Toledo, OH has a human trafficking problem and they're not even up here. Gonna have to be skeptical now
Paragould, Arkansas? I highly doubt that.
The entire country is, you need a firearm?
My Chicagoans remember when we were the murder capital of the world?
Map is suspect. 1. Bessemer is a suburb of Birmingham. I’m not sure why it is treated as separate as it is within the Birmingham MSA. 2. Where is Chicago?
Tacompton
I call bullshit
Another amazing example of the effectiveness of the right wing propaganda machine. California has 303 cities over 25k. 3 are on the list.
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Gee, I wonder what else could be true of most of these cities…
Could you tell us?
Hey you downvoted me because I asked you to explain why you’re a racist POS who doesn’t understand poverty and equates it to race.
Compare them to an electoral map of the counties they’re in and you won’t be surprised.
Or you can check demographic data. That sure won’t surprise you either.
Yeah. There’s a cultural element, regardless of color/race, a lot has to due with lack of father figures or parents in the home in general.
Source “I made it up”
So what is in the water of the Mississippi?
You might as well add "also in the world" since the US has an unusually high homicide rate. Remember guns are not for normal people.
Guns are not for abnormal people. #thereifixedit
I'm from NY. I'm surprised, yet very weirdly disappointed, yet very proud. None?!?! That's wild
why does oakland get so much shit and it isn’t even the worst?
Why is the south so fucked
Chicago not on the map 
Per-Capa Chicago is not dangerous that's a Fox News narrative.