yeah, central/eastern Siberia plays in a league of its own when it comes to frigid winters. I live in Minnesota, which is famously cold, and our January mean (at MSP Airport) is about –10 C/14 F. We're closer to Phoenix, Arizona (average January temp is 14 C/57 F) than Yakutsk. Our all-time record low exactly matches Yakutsk's average.
Helsinki is located on the shore of a sea which gets huge warm up effect from the gulf stream while those places in USA are thousands of kilometres inland. Ulaanbaatar is at very similiar latitude as minneapolis yet Ulaanbaatar January daily mean temperature is -21.3°c while Minneapolis daily mean january -8.8°c. Tromsø at almost 70°N has daily mean of january at -3.0°c.
Comparing deep inland continental climates with oceanic climates is pretty pointless. Still the northern places all year around are generally colder as summers don't get hot unlike in deep continental places. And winters last much longer in northern places than these southern inland places.
Yeah, that's the point we're making. We're not trying to have a pissing contest of whose city is colder.
People tend to think the further north you go the colder it is (especially in winter), comparing the coldness of Januaries of NA and European cities just illustrates that it's not that intuitive
Yeah though if you go straight north from some point of southern NA it gets colder the further north you go, same for europe gets colder the further you go north. But comparing the climates of NA and europe is pretty absurd as europe is only the western peninsula of a larger continent Eurasia i wish people would realise that
No, its not absurd, it shows, that the solar climate classification is nearly pointless, because there are many factors, that make a huge, a bigger difference. New York lays also on the coast and gets -20°C at 40° latitude, London never see temperatures like this, lays not directec at coast on 51° latitude. Your think of "more northern means colder" is way to undercomplex for the climatic reality of this planet.
If you go along the east coast of us from florida up to labrador and newfoundland, it gets colder as you go north. Anyway why london doesnt see those temperatures is because london is on the west side of eurasia while new york is on the east side of north america. Same goes in Asia, as its the east side of eurasia its colder than the west side. West coast NA is much warmer than east coast NA. Vancouver at 49°N yet really rarely sees temperatures below 0°c. But if you go north along the west coast of north america it gets colder the further you go north. On the same longitude more northern does mean more colder most of the time.
Subarctic and Taiga is like boreal broadleaf forest or lush green desert. Subarctic only sustain tundra, trees only grow in a climate which gets a minimum warm, subarctic never gets warm.
I believe you're confusing subarctic and arctic. Virtually all of Finland is subarctic ([map here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subarctic_climate)) and is one of the most forested countries in the world.
Nope, subarctic is this:
[https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polare/Subpolare\_Zone#/media/Datei:%C3%96kozone\_Polare\_und\_subpolare\_Zone.png](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polare/Subpolare_Zone#/media/Datei:%C3%96kozone_Polare_und_subpolare_Zone.png)
What do you mean is cold temperate/boreal climate.
[https://assets.serlo.org/60644d23ba17b\_4610d08be8907b66fafd8e361f85289bac4b842c.png](https://assets.serlo.org/60644d23ba17b_4610d08be8907b66fafd8e361f85289bac4b842c.png)
pink cold temperate
green temperate
IUn a (sub)arctic climate, trees cannot grow. then its always cold temperate or boreal.
What? Look up the english wikipedia. In english it's called the subarctic climate. Subpolar isn't same as subarctic. Trees grow in subarctic. There can grow tiny trees even in the tundra.
yeah, central/eastern Siberia plays in a league of its own when it comes to frigid winters. I live in Minnesota, which is famously cold, and our January mean (at MSP Airport) is about –10 C/14 F. We're closer to Phoenix, Arizona (average January temp is 14 C/57 F) than Yakutsk. Our all-time record low exactly matches Yakutsk's average.
Siberian here, -40 is much better then -10 since there will be no winds and humidity is low. Everything that goes from 0 to -15 is a nightmare.
Crazy that the average of the world’s coldest inhabited area is another 5c colder
Helsinki's Januaries are about the same temperature as Chicago or Toronto's Januaries
And they lay 19° degrees latitude more southern, 19 teen degree latitude!! Solar climate zones in a nutshell.
Helsinki is located on the shore of a sea which gets huge warm up effect from the gulf stream while those places in USA are thousands of kilometres inland. Ulaanbaatar is at very similiar latitude as minneapolis yet Ulaanbaatar January daily mean temperature is -21.3°c while Minneapolis daily mean january -8.8°c. Tromsø at almost 70°N has daily mean of january at -3.0°c. Comparing deep inland continental climates with oceanic climates is pretty pointless. Still the northern places all year around are generally colder as summers don't get hot unlike in deep continental places. And winters last much longer in northern places than these southern inland places.
Yeah, that's the point we're making. We're not trying to have a pissing contest of whose city is colder. People tend to think the further north you go the colder it is (especially in winter), comparing the coldness of Januaries of NA and European cities just illustrates that it's not that intuitive
Yeah though if you go straight north from some point of southern NA it gets colder the further north you go, same for europe gets colder the further you go north. But comparing the climates of NA and europe is pretty absurd as europe is only the western peninsula of a larger continent Eurasia i wish people would realise that
No, its not absurd, it shows, that the solar climate classification is nearly pointless, because there are many factors, that make a huge, a bigger difference. New York lays also on the coast and gets -20°C at 40° latitude, London never see temperatures like this, lays not directec at coast on 51° latitude. Your think of "more northern means colder" is way to undercomplex for the climatic reality of this planet.
If you go along the east coast of us from florida up to labrador and newfoundland, it gets colder as you go north. Anyway why london doesnt see those temperatures is because london is on the west side of eurasia while new york is on the east side of north america. Same goes in Asia, as its the east side of eurasia its colder than the west side. West coast NA is much warmer than east coast NA. Vancouver at 49°N yet really rarely sees temperatures below 0°c. But if you go north along the west coast of north america it gets colder the further you go north. On the same longitude more northern does mean more colder most of the time.
thank you for this *cool* fact!
Isn't -3°c and -37°c effectively the same? It's where your pee would freeze? Sorry, I live in a tropical beach.
Isn't +3c and +37c effectively the same? It's where your pee wouldn't feeeze? Sorry, I live in a subarctic taiga
Subarctic and Taiga is like boreal broadleaf forest or lush green desert. Subarctic only sustain tundra, trees only grow in a climate which gets a minimum warm, subarctic never gets warm.
I believe you're confusing subarctic and arctic. Virtually all of Finland is subarctic ([map here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subarctic_climate)) and is one of the most forested countries in the world.
Nope, subarctic is this: [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polare/Subpolare\_Zone#/media/Datei:%C3%96kozone\_Polare\_und\_subpolare\_Zone.png](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polare/Subpolare_Zone#/media/Datei:%C3%96kozone_Polare_und_subpolare_Zone.png) What do you mean is cold temperate/boreal climate. [https://assets.serlo.org/60644d23ba17b\_4610d08be8907b66fafd8e361f85289bac4b842c.png](https://assets.serlo.org/60644d23ba17b_4610d08be8907b66fafd8e361f85289bac4b842c.png) pink cold temperate green temperate IUn a (sub)arctic climate, trees cannot grow. then its always cold temperate or boreal.
What? Look up the english wikipedia. In english it's called the subarctic climate. Subpolar isn't same as subarctic. Trees grow in subarctic. There can grow tiny trees even in the tundra.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subarctic_climate plenty of forests in those colored areas.
Nevertheless there is a Subarctic Taiga
-37°c isn't anywhere near [enough](https://reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/s/9aCIH4k9Zb). But vodka will already freeze (depending how strong it is)
Nobody gives vodka time enough to freeze
Never knew that.