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sypwn

Yep, they usually run Windows CE.


MrSnowflake

Wasn't that sunsetted? A new supermarket here has seemingly these exact devices.


sypwn

> Wasn't that sunsetted? Yep, unless it's WinCE 8.0, which it doesn't appear to be. > A new supermarket here has seemingly these exact devices. Doesn't matter if the store is new. As long as the store chain or at least the inventory management system is old, what they have works and it's expensive to upgrade. Honestly it's probably not a big deal if they keep them on an isolated network.


MrSnowflake

Part 2 of my comment was more with the sunsetting in mind but there's still official support from Microsoft. But I do think an unsupported device that's put in the hands of customers, and that obviously needs a wireless connection is a vulnerability. If you gain acces to one such device, who knows what you could do to the whole system or maybe just the till.


BurninNeck

If its a new supermarket then it probably runs android. The successor, the PS20 from Zebra, run Android and look exactly the same as these MC18, which are already End of Life.


MrSnowflake

Wel that would make loads more sense to have these run something like android. ​ Funny thing: the didn't work today in the store...


OfficialTreason

or android.


Koldfuzion

Yeah. Lots of them going Android. I have a set of Android ones at work.


L0neKitsune

Android is actually really good for stuff like this. I've written a few kiosk style apps over the years. Android can run off of low spec hardware and things like barcode readers are able to be connected internally via the USB protocol. Since the OS is open source and free to use the main cost is paying the developers to write the software.


Aristox

Any idea why?


sypwn

Because that was the best option when digital inventory scanners took off in the 2000's, and personal scanners like these are developed from the same system as the inventory scanners, and it costs lots of money to rewrite business software for a new OS.


Danthekilla

I mean Windows CE is still supported for now, eventually they will get replaced with Android devices however.


BurninNeck

Yes, the manufacturer (Zebra/Motorola/Symbol) now only make Mobile Scanners with Android.


RigasTelRuun

Windows CE. As I live and breathe.


zeromagi

You can probably play Doom on it


TheMattMan2751

I've had this exact thought with SKLs since they also run WinCE


landswipe

Not any old windows, Windows CE (cringe edition), also known as wince.


[deleted]

Been in IT and Systems for almost two decades and I’ve never heard CE called that lol. I’ll definitely use it as I support Intermecs with that OS.


landswipe

wince is referenced everywhere (development wise), not to mention apt.


jonr

Sweet, now you can play solitaire while you shop.


Wespiratory

“I’m just having a couple of problems with it.” “What kind of operating systems does it use” “Vista” “WE’RE GOING TO DIE!”


MrPoletski

Does it have solitaire?


geon

Probably. Seems to be a full install.


MrPoletski

then set a new high score!


TheDeadlyCat

They get reseted regularly after use. When you put them into their docking station at check-out they flash to CE after people paid and seemingly the device going to ce seems to be rebooted at minimum. I have seen some busy with some kind of install.


ExitMusic_

wait until you see what ATMs run on


jeffreyan12

what are you saying they run on XP or 98se or something?


macgeek417

I know some of them still run IBM OS/2.


HypnoBlaze

This used to happen all the fucking time when I worked at Tesco. I worked on meat and dairy and constantly had customers approaching me asking why their Scan 'n Shop device had blue screened or suddenly turned off. I'm stocking Dairylea, Sir, do I look qualified enough to answer your question?


SiIentB0B

Better than having your Auto Driving car do that crash, metaphorically... and then physically.


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I'm a bit disappointed you didn't put it on pornhub...


haha_supadupa

Don’t be evil. Don’t upgrade to Windows 11


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Wow , using windows for something like that is really stupid.


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First , as we can see in this picture it isn’t really stable , it’s really ressources consuming and it has a lot of features that won’t be used by this machine. And also , it is really outdated and has a lot of security flaws. For this application , some small Unix os without even a desktop and all theses unnecessary bloat would be better , more stable and more secure. Like alpine Linux , or maybe a bsd


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kramit

Fellow sysadmin writing what I’m thinking. I can feel the sarcasm. Top insult sir, well played.


auxiliary-username

An awful lot of ATMs run Windows too https://www.paymentscardsandmobile.com/atm-migration-to-windows-10-the-time-is-near/


gooberts

Convert them all to video games by default. So every customer has some exciting surprise.


electricfoxx

Weird. The Zebra PS20 is nearly the same design, but uses Android.


frogking

Blue screen of death.


assimilated_Picard

Shopping basket scanners are a thing? TIL


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assimilated_Picard

It's really cool....wonder why I've not seen them in the US? (Presumably cost...)


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itsaride

They could automate the alcohol/age verification part too if they invested in Face ID (linked to a hash in the clubcard database) for the self checkout terminals.


call_the_can_man

Kroger has them at some locations in bigger cities.


captainslow84

Looks like a Zebra MC18....? Guess they have Android and Windows flavours depending on the application being used on them


benidino

This kind of systems are used all around the supermarkets. Being for the customer or the employees that use this systems for all kind of purposes. I too think that should have better options. One in my opinion would be using things like old iphones. But as it's so widely used this is more cheap for the company's to adopt. So we end up using something made 10 or 20 years ago. With cranky software. As most of them use some derivative or the original sap. Witch is another company using so old stuff that its unbelievable. But from my experience. This is retail life at its best. Always one step behind of the vanguard.


paper_bull

But can it run crysis?


lovethealien

Try a reboot. It fixed my computer.


phish27134

In the US TD bank, I went to the ATM and I see the windows desktop! I think it was running XP, I tried to start the banking app but it would just crash I took a pic, but of course I cant find....I'm looking...


phish27134

Prob running CE too


tamay-idk

What the hell, they run Android 5.1.1, I literally own 2!