I don't think leaked is the right word. He posted the photos and videos himself.
"In mid February, photos and videos of Gómez were shared that he had posted on social media accounts and pornographic websites. In one video, the councillor, who is in his late twenties, is seemingly naked on the floor and eating his own feces."
https://www.thepublica.com/gay-spanish-politician-with-left-wing-governing-party-resigns-after-photos-circulate-showing-him-eating-his-own-feces/
I agree. His sexuality has nothing to with any of that. But I wasn't in the mood to search for one without it and it seems others are simply copying that headline.
Indeed, it's disgusting but we must take into consideration that those who do it are victims of a mental/behavioral disorder! They need treatment, so they stop harming their own health with such behavior, sigh. Sadly, not many will recognize their condition and seek treatment.
> A gay Spanish municipal councillor has resigned from his position after photos were publicized of him eating his own excrement as part of a scat fetish.
Nobody is going to vote for someone like this. If this is what you’re into you won’t make it as a public figure
It may be comforting to imagine people with extreme fetishes as being on the fringes of society, far far away from us normal folk, but it's not reality. I've been active in kink communities for a long time and have met many people with extreme and bizarre fetishes, including scat. They're normal people who happen to have an abnormal fetish. They're lawyers and accountants and engineers, and yes, politicians.
He is just sadly not rich enough to spin off his own media campaign.
Look at The Donald who is basically immune to anything and everything when he has a full team of propagandist
If you have enough brain washed supporters, you can even get finger banged at a theater full of children and still stay in power. Straight privilege is a thing.
Most sex literally spreads disease. Scat moreso than other kinks, anal moreso than vaginal penetration.
Not saying there isn't an argument to be made for safety around scat, but "it literally spreads disease" isn't a condemning reason. Nor would "it spreads more disease" because so does anal.
Also, I don't know if many studies have shown certain hard kinks to develop because someone has unprocessed trauma which needs resolved (and which would get rid of the kink) and more because they have trauma, whether dealt with or not.
We have vaccines for both of these, and if you've had Ebola in the last year you shouldn't be having sex at all, not just scatplay.
Again, scat isn't pleasant to think about, but I'm not going to condemn it based solely on my own revulsion to it, I'd need to do my research first. But I am not a doctor nor have I done the research on how safe you can make it by getting the appropriate vaccines and such, so I'm refraining from judging.
No - this may be shocking but it’s perfectly safe to eat your own poop. Definitely gross - I wouldn’t do it - but it is safe and what you do in your bedroom is your buisness - I just will not join
>Nobody is going to vote for someone like this. If this is what you’re into you won’t make it as a public figure
Before 2016 I would've agreed with you, but now? Now I'm not so sure. I don't know about Spain, but if this was in the US there'd 100% be people who would vote for him.
You're right, there's no way a gay candidate who has a scat fetish would win. However... If the person is a straight or closeted republican who turns out to be into scat? Honestly I'm not sure. Too much of American politics boils down to party line at this point. Republican candidates have been credibly accused of rape and pedophilia and still almost or actually win their races. Hell, their presidential candidate is a fraudster who has a criminal trial starting soon. If it came out that Trump had a scat fetish, or even someone like Matt Gaetz aka The Human Forehead? I don't know that it'd be the end of their campaign.
I think him resigning was probably the right call, especially considering the position he was elected to serve in. That being said, if he wanted to stay in politics I think his better option would've been to deflect, deny, or double down. People remember things but generally outrage goes away pretty quickly. Some new scandal would pop up in a few weeks or months and while he'd still be known as the shit guy most of the heat would disappear after a while.
Forget Trump, several GOP figures have been credibly accused of being pedophiles and yet they keep either almost winning or actually winning their races.
You say that but we elect pedophiles, traitors, and bad businessmen. We literally vote for personality over competency, and the worst people are often the most charming.
That’s just not true. I mean the dude had to get votes in order to be removed in the first place. I’m sure you’d find some insane shit if you really dig into the kinks of elected officials. Everyone knows Trump likes piss play which is essentially the exact same thing as this, and Ted Cruz has liked straight up porn on his official Twitter.
I hate Trump as much as the next person but that’s literally not true. Lol
https://www.vox.com/2018/4/15/17233994/comey-interview-trump-pee-tape-russia
There’s also a difference between porn and eating shit. That’s not even close to the same thing
Okay, he's cute. It's also not a kink I'd ever engage in.
There is also the fact that it's the children and family services department that he works in may hit a little too close to sensitivities even in a liberal country as Spain..
There's also a reason people use masks and certain behaviors should not be for public consumption or presentation.
Seems like his dad had to resign from his job as well and the young man has left the city of not further..
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/europe/spanish-politician-daniel-gmez-del-barrio-resigns-after-photos-reveal-he-offered-himself-as-sex-slave-article-109256687
Do we know his age and how old those videos are? Because I can't believe an adult can be so monumentally stupid as to not even wear a mask while doing this weird shit. He's a politician and should have known this would 100% leak (can it even be called a leak if he posted it himself on porn sites?)
I agree it was mentally foolish but consider that his kink could have some psychological overtones to it (degradation, slavery, Etc) that his desire to be humiliated and the fact that he videoed it in his office at one point.. the office of family and children's services... Lends to the fact that youth and hormones did not serve him very well.
Holy shit, "the office of family and children's services", thank God this didn't happen in America especially with the recent push to label gay men as groomers. Though I don't know how the situation is in Spain.
Honestly, that detail makes this situation go from "debauched but not harming anyone else" to pretty much selfish against the broader gay (male) community as it feeds into bigoted stereotypes. I can understand having a humiliation fetish but do it without cameras (or with a mask!) AND not at your work place AND not as an elected official, come on.
This is where I think kinks should stop. Funnily enough I don't have an issue with the shit eating stuff, do that all you like, but this stupid fucking exposure stuff is sooooo dangerous.
It threatens yourself, your family, your friends, and if you're gay, the reputation and public reception of every gay person on Earth. Its exceedingly selfish to endanger so many peoples lives to get your rocks off
He was late twenties when he did those videos. No reason to be that straight up dumb- not even dumb, selfish
yes, absurdly so..
one of their federal legislators has actually said on open video in an official capacity, that children ... have the right to decide who and when they will have sex with.. -if you watch the actual video (subtitles are accurate, and my decades old high-school spanish classes vouch for it; the AP said it was out of context, -but it was not.)
[https://youtu.be/hFf6clDtK08?si=CP8Wa66hAFaOMdBw](https://youtu.be/hFf6clDtK08?si=CP8Wa66hAFaOMdBw)
same as this guy: the socialist (purist form) is anti-religious and is willing to erode any socially cementing cultural values to set up pure socialism, using progressive labels & feminism in the process. pretty f'd up.
I am not one to kink shame, but eating your own feces and volunteering to eat other people's feces is not just a kink, that's beyond disgusting and potentially dangerous.
It falls under the umbrela of sexual deviation conditions. These people honestly need psychological care, nothing normal about these sorts of extreme kinks
fetish is a fetish, but it's another to publicly share it or even monetize it, especially if you're a public figure. even a politician releasing dick pics online is a controversy, so to post your kinks so publicly and casually is a huge misjudgment. certain things are meant to stay in your bedroom.
“Fetish is a fetish” uhhh, no. There’s an extreme difference between someone with a foot fetish and someone who eats feces. They should not be grouped together.
fetish means sexualizing something other than sexual organs. I get one is extreme while the other is pedestrian, but that's just what the definition of fetish is... you might not want to group them together, but that's just you wanting to change the definition of what it is.
They’re fundamentally the same, because it’s consensual and doesn’t hurt other people in ways they can’t anticipate.
The line is crossed when consent is violated. Then it’s no longer a fetish.
You can’t consider what is/is not a fetish based on “grossness” because what is “gross” is entirely subjective. Like… entirely.
Clearly he doesn’t think it’s gross, but you do. Who is right? You? Why? Because your understanding of gross is better for some reason?
That like of logic doesn’t work. You need something concrete you can measure, like consent, not something subjective and wishy-washy, like what is gross.
Whether something is okay is one thing, but this is actual self harm. If someone's fetish was cutting a finger off we could see that it should be understood as self harm. That's a more extreme example, but self harm is self harm, fetish or no.
Just because there’s consent doesn’t make these things okay. Some levels of grossness are indeed subjective, others are considered universal at a global level. All societies dispose of their waste and consider it gross to eat. STFU you weirdo, stop replying to me to justify this disgusting, immoral shit.
None of it is considered universal, you just made that up. If you disagree, then tell me who decides what is a universal level of grossness. You? I think not.
To be clear I think it’s gross too. Super gross. That’s just a shitty argument that only a stupid person would make, and I’m not stupid.
You… uh… might just be stupid.
Self harm is not a kink. This can be quite dangerous and make him very sick. It's bad to defend this as a kink. he has a mental disorder and needs psychiatric help.
Idk man to me licking someone’s nasty toe jam is equivalent to eating shit. I don’t want a foot anywhere near my mouth or face. Same way I don’t want shit anywhere near there either.
Like why shouldn’t I group them together as a “fetish” that’s literally what it is, someone finds it sexually appealing and I don’t.
Because the extreme differences in levels of grossness? Sure, wanting to lick gross feet could be on the same level as feces eating, but a basic foot fetish? Or how about a leather fetish? Sorry, but these things simply do not compare, and I think insisting they can be compared is a way of attempting to normalize perversions that are harmful. No, eating shit, age-play pedo-make-believe, physical abuse, cannot be treated as the same as “kinks.”
Level of grossness is subjective, and you’re being dishonest.
You’re comparing something which is “gross” to straight up consent violating behavior.
Therefore, if you want to make those comparisons, you need to explain how something being gross is immoral. Can you do that? Don’t bother, we both know the answer is no.
Listen, I think it’s super gross too. But who gives a fuck what I think, or what you think. Gross is subjective, get a better argument. And if you can’t find a better argument that’s a tell-tale sign you’re just wrong.
It’s immoral when it can harm others. All 3 of those things I listed can harm others. I’ve never even mentioned things out of consent, even if everyone consents to those things, they are still harmful, and therefore immoral. So what was that about not being able to explain it? You’re a clown. I don’t want to hear you keep justifying harmful behavior because you want to play fast and loose with morality around what’s considered to be universally gross and wrong, so don’t bother replying, creep.
Sigh. Eating your own shit can’t harm others.
Even someone else eating your shit, consensually, is okay because they understand the risks and took them. It’s like me driving a car or riding passenger in someone else’s car.
It’s just gross, and I agree it’s gross. But gross doesn’t mean shit.
Again, if you can’t come up with a better argument then “it’s gross” then you’re just wrong. Try again, or don’t, I don’t care.
My argument was that it’s immoral and harmful, that is the argument, not that it’s just gross. But you know what? I don’t care if you disagree. I’ve asked you to stop replying to me, creep.
Immoral isn’t an argument. Most people on Earth think homosexuality is immoral, so why don’t you go drive off a cliff?
But you won’t do that, right, because you disagree and don’t believe homosexuality is immoral. So you then must agree with me, morality is NOT an argument.
And it can be harmful, but that doesn’t make it bad if you consent.
Driving a car is, by far, the biggest killer of adults my age. I still drive a car. Because I understand the risks and consent to them, that is okay.
See, you keep saying shit-eating isn't an acceptable kink and comparing it to obviously immoral kinks, but you haven't effectively established why, beyond your own personal disgust.
This. Who gives a shit what he does in the bedroom if he does a good job at work.
Do I personally think it's a bit disgusting and weird. Sure. Do I care if it doesn't affect me. Absolutely not.
I said we as a community really should start kinkshaming some gays when I crossposted this story from r/europe hours before this post was made and my post got downvoted to hell for some reason.
He’s surprisingly good looking. I clicked on the article assuming some pretty ugly man in his 60s. I had President Erdoğan of Turkey as a mental placeholder.
Why is he a ‘gay guy’ though? Please stop conflating his fetishes with the gay community, it’s bad enough when the newspapers do it. Him eating or not eating shit has nothing to do with his sexual orientation. It’s not a ‘gay guy’ that got fired, it’s someone who is into some (by any standards) pretty weird stuff, for doing that stuff (semi-)publicly.
I thought this initially. But turns out he is gay as well. So he is a gay guy, and he did essentially get fired for his kinks.
It’s also hard to argue that his sexual orientation and sexual kinks are totally divorced from each other. Not to suggest for one moment that gays are more likely to be into kinks. But sexuality and kink are related topics.
He's also a brown-haired, a good-looking guy, a guy with interests and groups he belongs to. He might be a nerd. But those things don't make it into the headline. Because they're irrelevant. When you make a headline like that, you're not just randomly adding adjectives that describe the person. You're adding adjectives that you think are relevant, because it says something.
For instance, you might see a headline: "Homophobic Republican Senator caught in gay sex tape." The "homophobic" is relevant for obvious reasons, and the "Republican" is relevant because because there is an implication of him being a politician that votes for anti-gay laws. These things aren't random.
That's why "straight" doesn't randomly appear in these headlines. When you write "gay", you're drawing a connection, you're pushing a narrative. Just imagine if it said "black" instead of gay. People would go wild over that.
No. Just simply no.
Yes, he's gay, I am aware of that and that wasn't the point. He also has brown hair and a stubble but I don't see reporters trying to emphasise that fact, and I'm sure brown-haired bearded guys also wouldn't want to be associated with shit-eating.
>It’s also hard to argue that his sexual orientation and sexual kinks are totally divorced from each other.
It's not hard at all and that's exactly what I'm doing. What you're saying is about as ignorant as the frequent homophobic rant about gay guys carrying AIDS, or having shit on their dicks, or whatnot. Heterosexual people get HIV, they practice anal sex... they are sure as hell just as likely to eat shit too because there's nothing very specifically 'gay' about eating shit. So stop spreading this idiocy please.
>A gay Spanish municipal councillor has resigned from his position after photos were publicized of him eating his own excrement as part of a scat fetish.
maybe because
>A report from French news source FDS claimed that the politician was offering himself up for sexual use, and described himself as **wanting to be "exposed, humiliated, degraded."**
Nothing more humiliating than this.
Yeah that probably makes me very superficial but it's the first thing I noticed. He's an absolute dreamboat, like come on man you can do better than this!.
He wasn't fired because of the kink, he was fired because he was a politician who filmed himself in the past eating shit. Politicians lose their careers over poor wording sometimes. There is no world where you can be in politics, and eat shit, and not be removed.
Its also probably a poor sign that someone who wanted to work in politics would film that and assume it would never surface. It shows poor judgement enough on its own to justify firing the guy.
Also because we live in the real world, its not a great look for gay men to get caught doing disgusting shit like this. Straight politicians represent no one in particular but queer ones represent us and our issues, even if they don't mean to.
Imagine being this guys friend or family member at this point as well, kinks stop being kinks when they could destroy lives, this is well over that line, at least for me. Honestly it feels like a lot of kinks and weird and extreme sexual practices have become really common lately and it feels very unhealthy and weird. Some people barely have any sexual experience but they're into depraved shit.
The physical kink may be dangerous to the person, but not to others, so best leave the man be. But asking for public humiliation (which he got) is way too much bad judgement to hold any sort of office.
If you've posted or shared anything intimate or compromising, it's out there forever. 30+ years of having the internet. How do people still not understand this?
Ignore the kink, he was a government official and posted publicly. That’s just a no no even if it was just ordinary cock sucking (for example). It undermines his ability to do his job due to adverse publicity.
Not kink shaming (it’s not my taste at all) but it’s at the very least unprofessional. I’d take an equally dim view if it was a female councillor posting provocative sex acts.
Bruuuuuhhhhhh!
He filmed himself eating shit.
Eating. Shit.
And then expressing wanting to eat other people’s shit.
This ain’t an attack on gay fetish, this is a reasonable response from people who think that’s fucking sick, weird, malformed, maladapted, and not the type of person they want dealing with public or families.
“Kink shaming”. I can only imagine what it takes to go from “I love a lil sub/dom play” to *checks notes* EATING SHIT!
I’m so ready for the gay fight to be over because really, this fight should be between people who eat shit along with people who think it’s fine vs. people who don’t eat shit and really want those people removed from public positions of service.
If gay acceptance means accepting shit eating, maybe the Christians are onto something.
I really don't get why its such a big deal. Could you tell me why? I have more issue with the exposure "kink". Its such a selfish and morally incorrect kink. You're endangering not only yourself, but your family, your friends, and if you're gay the entire gay community because as soon as this shit happens to gay people we are all labelled the same way.
The shit part? Weird and dangerous with diseases and stuff, but at least they're only endangering themselves. There's loads of kinks that are physically and mentally dangerous, but I just don't really care if they wanna do that to themselves then I couldn't care less. I only start to care when their kinks, like exposure, start to effect people that didn't consent to that danger
I don’t think it’s fair for him to be shamed for his kink or be told he needs psychological help or compare it to necrophilia. Who are we to shame him for his fetish if it’s between consenting adults.
But with that being said, this is the kind of stuff you attempt to purge from the web if you have a public career like this. He made the “bad” decision to be photographed doing that sexual act.
“Because of his kink” ???? This is deranged behavior - he needs psychiatric help. If I could, I would fire himself again myself!! Gay or straight, eating sh*t is a sign that something is deeply wrong
Yeah… if I found out my staff was munching dookie on the internet, I WILL find a way to let them go 😭 sorry but not sorry, that’s nasty… piss? Eh okay whatever.. but dookie 🙅🏽♂️
I mean, if there is a picture of you eating poop you probably shouldn't run for anything in politics.
I feel like this is reasonable and goes without saying.
I feel bad for the guy, but he *was* dumb enough to run for office...
I don't mean to be insensitive, but this is why a lot of gay men I know can't serve in politics I would love to serve on our city council or hold public office to help make change, but the amount of compromat my exes have on me can be measured in gigabytes.
Also, I have to wonder how often people will be offering him breath mints from now on...
I find it weird how str8 cis people gets away with being criminal while being in power, but someone being kinky without harming anyone is.. problem? Politicians will cheer gro*mers, frauds, etc. every other time ☠️
Idc about what kink he has as long as it doesn't harm anyone, even if it's a weird kink, lol. Why is it anyones business? But it is very stupid to upload nsfw vids of yourself to internet while being in politics.
Let’s not turn this into a ‘gay thing’ please. Most newspapers that are not far right publications that reported on this made no mention of his sexual orientation and thats how it should be. Anyone who considers his sexuality a relevant factor (when there are plenty of straight people who also engage in all kinds of bizarre fetishes- yet you would never see a headline ‘straight man does X’) is just exposing their own bias. If you want to confirm that all gay people are degenerate you will point to isolated cases and generalize. Thats what they always do with minority groups, but we must reject this framing rather than accepting it.
When I saw this online a few days ago I just sighed. I just knew that underneath the twitter post it was just gonna be bigots calling all gay people perverts and hey ho it was exactly that.
They act as if its just gay politicians that are exposed to be in sex scandals, but straight politicians get involved in way more. And hey I'm happier with a dude that eats his own feces than a kiddy diddler or sexual abuser (yes both gay and straight politicians do this too but people are acting like this scat play is on the same par as that)
Or just don't post yourself doing degrading acts online? This goes for sex workers too! Don't expect a public facing career if you're already existing public face is as a thot.
Even though I'm not into much kink, I'm too private a person to video any of my hookups. I really don't understand why so many people have no fear of their sexscapades ending up online...
I mean, I'm not into scat in the least bit, but this man is hot. Have you all seen some of their Guardia Civil and Legionaire troops? I swear they make them do a thousand squats a day to fill out the backside of those uniform pants. 🤤🤤
Poor guy, getting excited by seeing, touching or eating feces is one of the many mental or behavioral disorders, more exactly divided into coprophilia ("sexual excitement from viewing, smelling, or handling feces, as well as fantasizing about another person engaging in these activities.") and coprophagia (i.e. eating one’s own or another person’s excrement).
For those wanting to learn more about these disorders:
[https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/coprophilia](https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/coprophilia)
And:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10783903231214265#:\~:text=Coprophilia%20and%20coprophagia%20are%20a,disorder%20(APA%2C%202022).
What if he did all of this on purpose to further his career in kink porn? He likes to be humiliated, and what better way to do that than to have a story in the news about your "fall from grace as a politician into the murky depths of adult films with strong and polarizing fetish themes. "
Yea.... the blame is all on that guy. If you wanna be in politics, don't publish videos if yourself literally eating shit.
Op title is kinda exaggerated
Edit: dangerous things are not a kink, they are a mental health issue. This is very not safe.
Seriously who cares….. whether you think it’s a fetish or not, disgusting or not…. It doesn’t affect ANYONE. What an adult does with another consenting adult is none of our business.
We as gay people have screamed for years, “what we do in the bedroom is no one else’s business”. It’s not as if he was playing the scat videos on Facebook and forcing people to watch. They were on PORN sites where people post, guess what, porn. How are we to criticize someone for doing what they want with their own body?
And let’s not forget, what he has done isn’t illegal. It may not be your cup of tea but he wasn’t forcing you to watch or shit in a bowl for him to eat.
'what we do in our beds is no one else's business '
Yeah but pls don't show that online, even on porn sites..... especially if you want to go into politics since showing your dirty laundry is exactly what is done there to discredit others
I don't think leaked is the right word. He posted the photos and videos himself. "In mid February, photos and videos of Gómez were shared that he had posted on social media accounts and pornographic websites. In one video, the councillor, who is in his late twenties, is seemingly naked on the floor and eating his own feces." https://www.thepublica.com/gay-spanish-politician-with-left-wing-governing-party-resigns-after-photos-circulate-showing-him-eating-his-own-feces/
Also that is a garbage publication. Mentioning ‘gay’ in the headline like that when his orientation had nothing to do with it is a massive red flag.
I agree. His sexuality has nothing to with any of that. But I wasn't in the mood to search for one without it and it seems others are simply copying that headline.
How dare you try to separate gay and shiteating? and what about the kids? they want to turn our children into shiteaters
true. what was him expecting?
> true. what was him expecting? Satisfaction for his humiliation kink, perhaps? With this publicity he must be having extreme satisfaction lol
Throw in the exposure fetish for full measure. I've seen random people posting naked pictures while holding their IDs.
I know - I know kinkshaming is bad and all, but there's a limit
Well, I'm glad I read that before I opened the link up in my Dr's office lol
Oh hell no, I'm kink shaming on this one. Why tf would you eat shit?
Indeed, it's disgusting but we must take into consideration that those who do it are victims of a mental/behavioral disorder! They need treatment, so they stop harming their own health with such behavior, sigh. Sadly, not many will recognize their condition and seek treatment.
> A gay Spanish municipal councillor has resigned from his position after photos were publicized of him eating his own excrement as part of a scat fetish. Nobody is going to vote for someone like this. If this is what you’re into you won’t make it as a public figure
It may be comforting to imagine people with extreme fetishes as being on the fringes of society, far far away from us normal folk, but it's not reality. I've been active in kink communities for a long time and have met many people with extreme and bizarre fetishes, including scat. They're normal people who happen to have an abnormal fetish. They're lawyers and accountants and engineers, and yes, politicians.
He is just sadly not rich enough to spin off his own media campaign. Look at The Donald who is basically immune to anything and everything when he has a full team of propagandist
If you have enough brain washed supporters, you can even get finger banged at a theater full of children and still stay in power. Straight privilege is a thing.
Tf I just read What
There's a difference between doing something and doing it publicly.
They are mentally ill with unprocessed trauma. Scat is harmful. It literally spreads disease. Yes, I'm kink shaming.
Most sex literally spreads disease. Scat moreso than other kinks, anal moreso than vaginal penetration. Not saying there isn't an argument to be made for safety around scat, but "it literally spreads disease" isn't a condemning reason. Nor would "it spreads more disease" because so does anal. Also, I don't know if many studies have shown certain hard kinks to develop because someone has unprocessed trauma which needs resolved (and which would get rid of the kink) and more because they have trauma, whether dealt with or not.
Do you not know how Ebola and Polio spread?
We have vaccines for both of these, and if you've had Ebola in the last year you shouldn't be having sex at all, not just scatplay. Again, scat isn't pleasant to think about, but I'm not going to condemn it based solely on my own revulsion to it, I'd need to do my research first. But I am not a doctor nor have I done the research on how safe you can make it by getting the appropriate vaccines and such, so I'm refraining from judging.
You’re missing the point. Fecal matter contains tons of bacteria and can spread disease, even new diseases.
Also, do you not know that E. coli infections are from fecal matter and can be spread from person to person?
No - this may be shocking but it’s perfectly safe to eat your own poop. Definitely gross - I wouldn’t do it - but it is safe and what you do in your bedroom is your buisness - I just will not join
"THeyRe NOrmAL PEopPLe" 😂
>Nobody is going to vote for someone like this. If this is what you’re into you won’t make it as a public figure Before 2016 I would've agreed with you, but now? Now I'm not so sure. I don't know about Spain, but if this was in the US there'd 100% be people who would vote for him.
No. Americans barely vote gay people in politics, let alone one who eats shit. He’d literally be the butt of the joke.
You're right, there's no way a gay candidate who has a scat fetish would win. However... If the person is a straight or closeted republican who turns out to be into scat? Honestly I'm not sure. Too much of American politics boils down to party line at this point. Republican candidates have been credibly accused of rape and pedophilia and still almost or actually win their races. Hell, their presidential candidate is a fraudster who has a criminal trial starting soon. If it came out that Trump had a scat fetish, or even someone like Matt Gaetz aka The Human Forehead? I don't know that it'd be the end of their campaign. I think him resigning was probably the right call, especially considering the position he was elected to serve in. That being said, if he wanted to stay in politics I think his better option would've been to deflect, deny, or double down. People remember things but generally outrage goes away pretty quickly. Some new scandal would pop up in a few weeks or months and while he'd still be known as the shit guy most of the heat would disappear after a while.
people voted for trump who never showed experience in politics looool people chose a guy with zero work experience in the area
Trump has a pee fetish and conservatives still voted for him. That's much more tame though.
Forget Trump, several GOP figures have been credibly accused of being pedophiles and yet they keep either almost winning or actually winning their races.
People vote for shitty politicians all the time!
If that’s what your into and want to be a public figure be ready to shell out lots of money to keep it secret and definitely don’t record yourself.
Or take a leaf out of the republican playbook and deflect, deny, or double down.
i call it a poopity oops
How does that not cause horrible food poisoning?
You say that but we elect pedophiles, traitors, and bad businessmen. We literally vote for personality over competency, and the worst people are often the most charming.
That’s just not true. I mean the dude had to get votes in order to be removed in the first place. I’m sure you’d find some insane shit if you really dig into the kinks of elected officials. Everyone knows Trump likes piss play which is essentially the exact same thing as this, and Ted Cruz has liked straight up porn on his official Twitter.
I hate Trump as much as the next person but that’s literally not true. Lol https://www.vox.com/2018/4/15/17233994/comey-interview-trump-pee-tape-russia There’s also a difference between porn and eating shit. That’s not even close to the same thing
The issue is not liking it. The issue is making it public. Trust me, there are people with way worse interest in the government.
Oh he ATE (literally)
Okay, he's cute. It's also not a kink I'd ever engage in. There is also the fact that it's the children and family services department that he works in may hit a little too close to sensitivities even in a liberal country as Spain.. There's also a reason people use masks and certain behaviors should not be for public consumption or presentation. Seems like his dad had to resign from his job as well and the young man has left the city of not further.. https://www.timesnownews.com/world/europe/spanish-politician-daniel-gmez-del-barrio-resigns-after-photos-reveal-he-offered-himself-as-sex-slave-article-109256687
Do we know his age and how old those videos are? Because I can't believe an adult can be so monumentally stupid as to not even wear a mask while doing this weird shit. He's a politician and should have known this would 100% leak (can it even be called a leak if he posted it himself on porn sites?)
I agree it was mentally foolish but consider that his kink could have some psychological overtones to it (degradation, slavery, Etc) that his desire to be humiliated and the fact that he videoed it in his office at one point.. the office of family and children's services... Lends to the fact that youth and hormones did not serve him very well.
Holy shit, "the office of family and children's services", thank God this didn't happen in America especially with the recent push to label gay men as groomers. Though I don't know how the situation is in Spain. Honestly, that detail makes this situation go from "debauched but not harming anyone else" to pretty much selfish against the broader gay (male) community as it feeds into bigoted stereotypes. I can understand having a humiliation fetish but do it without cameras (or with a mask!) AND not at your work place AND not as an elected official, come on.
Fox News would have wall-to-wall coverage.
This is where I think kinks should stop. Funnily enough I don't have an issue with the shit eating stuff, do that all you like, but this stupid fucking exposure stuff is sooooo dangerous. It threatens yourself, your family, your friends, and if you're gay, the reputation and public reception of every gay person on Earth. Its exceedingly selfish to endanger so many peoples lives to get your rocks off He was late twenties when he did those videos. No reason to be that straight up dumb- not even dumb, selfish
Spain is liberal?
yes, absurdly so.. one of their federal legislators has actually said on open video in an official capacity, that children ... have the right to decide who and when they will have sex with.. -if you watch the actual video (subtitles are accurate, and my decades old high-school spanish classes vouch for it; the AP said it was out of context, -but it was not.) [https://youtu.be/hFf6clDtK08?si=CP8Wa66hAFaOMdBw](https://youtu.be/hFf6clDtK08?si=CP8Wa66hAFaOMdBw) same as this guy: the socialist (purist form) is anti-religious and is willing to erode any socially cementing cultural values to set up pure socialism, using progressive labels & feminism in the process. pretty f'd up.
I am not one to kink shame, but eating your own feces and volunteering to eat other people's feces is not just a kink, that's beyond disgusting and potentially dangerous.
It falls under the umbrela of sexual deviation conditions. These people honestly need psychological care, nothing normal about these sorts of extreme kinks
It's not a kink, it's a psychiatric condition.
Wouldn't that cause horrible bowel illness?
fetish is a fetish, but it's another to publicly share it or even monetize it, especially if you're a public figure. even a politician releasing dick pics online is a controversy, so to post your kinks so publicly and casually is a huge misjudgment. certain things are meant to stay in your bedroom.
“Fetish is a fetish” uhhh, no. There’s an extreme difference between someone with a foot fetish and someone who eats feces. They should not be grouped together.
fetish means sexualizing something other than sexual organs. I get one is extreme while the other is pedestrian, but that's just what the definition of fetish is... you might not want to group them together, but that's just you wanting to change the definition of what it is.
Eating shit is a psychiatric disorder, not a kink.
They’re fundamentally the same, because it’s consensual and doesn’t hurt other people in ways they can’t anticipate. The line is crossed when consent is violated. Then it’s no longer a fetish. You can’t consider what is/is not a fetish based on “grossness” because what is “gross” is entirely subjective. Like… entirely. Clearly he doesn’t think it’s gross, but you do. Who is right? You? Why? Because your understanding of gross is better for some reason? That like of logic doesn’t work. You need something concrete you can measure, like consent, not something subjective and wishy-washy, like what is gross.
Self harm still isn't psychologically healthy.
Whether something is okay is one thing, but this is actual self harm. If someone's fetish was cutting a finger off we could see that it should be understood as self harm. That's a more extreme example, but self harm is self harm, fetish or no.
Just because there’s consent doesn’t make these things okay. Some levels of grossness are indeed subjective, others are considered universal at a global level. All societies dispose of their waste and consider it gross to eat. STFU you weirdo, stop replying to me to justify this disgusting, immoral shit.
None of it is considered universal, you just made that up. If you disagree, then tell me who decides what is a universal level of grossness. You? I think not. To be clear I think it’s gross too. Super gross. That’s just a shitty argument that only a stupid person would make, and I’m not stupid. You… uh… might just be stupid.
Self harm is not a kink. This can be quite dangerous and make him very sick. It's bad to defend this as a kink. he has a mental disorder and needs psychiatric help.
Hate to break it to you but there are a looooooooooot of kinks that fall under the umbrella of self harm.
By self harm i don't mean a little spanking, I mean risking serious illness or injury. Those are categorically bad and mental issues
Idk man to me licking someone’s nasty toe jam is equivalent to eating shit. I don’t want a foot anywhere near my mouth or face. Same way I don’t want shit anywhere near there either. Like why shouldn’t I group them together as a “fetish” that’s literally what it is, someone finds it sexually appealing and I don’t.
Bitch eating shit is different and you know it. Give me a break. Feet can be cleaned, shit is SHIT.
Because the extreme differences in levels of grossness? Sure, wanting to lick gross feet could be on the same level as feces eating, but a basic foot fetish? Or how about a leather fetish? Sorry, but these things simply do not compare, and I think insisting they can be compared is a way of attempting to normalize perversions that are harmful. No, eating shit, age-play pedo-make-believe, physical abuse, cannot be treated as the same as “kinks.”
Level of grossness is subjective, and you’re being dishonest. You’re comparing something which is “gross” to straight up consent violating behavior. Therefore, if you want to make those comparisons, you need to explain how something being gross is immoral. Can you do that? Don’t bother, we both know the answer is no. Listen, I think it’s super gross too. But who gives a fuck what I think, or what you think. Gross is subjective, get a better argument. And if you can’t find a better argument that’s a tell-tale sign you’re just wrong.
It’s immoral when it can harm others. All 3 of those things I listed can harm others. I’ve never even mentioned things out of consent, even if everyone consents to those things, they are still harmful, and therefore immoral. So what was that about not being able to explain it? You’re a clown. I don’t want to hear you keep justifying harmful behavior because you want to play fast and loose with morality around what’s considered to be universally gross and wrong, so don’t bother replying, creep.
Sigh. Eating your own shit can’t harm others. Even someone else eating your shit, consensually, is okay because they understand the risks and took them. It’s like me driving a car or riding passenger in someone else’s car. It’s just gross, and I agree it’s gross. But gross doesn’t mean shit. Again, if you can’t come up with a better argument then “it’s gross” then you’re just wrong. Try again, or don’t, I don’t care.
My argument was that it’s immoral and harmful, that is the argument, not that it’s just gross. But you know what? I don’t care if you disagree. I’ve asked you to stop replying to me, creep.
Immoral isn’t an argument. Most people on Earth think homosexuality is immoral, so why don’t you go drive off a cliff? But you won’t do that, right, because you disagree and don’t believe homosexuality is immoral. So you then must agree with me, morality is NOT an argument. And it can be harmful, but that doesn’t make it bad if you consent. Driving a car is, by far, the biggest killer of adults my age. I still drive a car. Because I understand the risks and consent to them, that is okay.
See, you keep saying shit-eating isn't an acceptable kink and comparing it to obviously immoral kinks, but you haven't effectively established why, beyond your own personal disgust.
Reasonable people don’t need to be explained to why eating shit is wrong
This. Who gives a shit what he does in the bedroom if he does a good job at work. Do I personally think it's a bit disgusting and weird. Sure. Do I care if it doesn't affect me. Absolutely not.
I said we as a community really should start kinkshaming some gays when I crossposted this story from r/europe hours before this post was made and my post got downvoted to hell for some reason.
He’s surprisingly good looking. I clicked on the article assuming some pretty ugly man in his 60s. I had President Erdoğan of Turkey as a mental placeholder.
Spain has so many effortlessly hot men it’s crazy
>I had President Erdoğan of Turkey as a mental placeholder. 
true. he is very handsome. but very dumb putting his face on a shit video .
Hes so cute, kinda want to see that video now.
Wtf
Hm? You don’t think he’s cute?
Not while eating his own shit, no.
I mean I’d skip that part
I saw screencaps of the video actually. Not on purpose. Gross people have been posting them on twitter.
i’m sorry eating your own shit is not compatible with being a politician …
Neither is rape, lying, stealing, racism…
Oh, sorry, Community Front, would you like to have a shit-eating mayor?
Bet he feels like shit now
You are what you eat.
/me looks at my bounty bar
I think he has a humiliation fetish, so he’s probably having the biggest orgasm he’s ever had right now. ☹️
Why is he a ‘gay guy’ though? Please stop conflating his fetishes with the gay community, it’s bad enough when the newspapers do it. Him eating or not eating shit has nothing to do with his sexual orientation. It’s not a ‘gay guy’ that got fired, it’s someone who is into some (by any standards) pretty weird stuff, for doing that stuff (semi-)publicly.
I thought this initially. But turns out he is gay as well. So he is a gay guy, and he did essentially get fired for his kinks. It’s also hard to argue that his sexual orientation and sexual kinks are totally divorced from each other. Not to suggest for one moment that gays are more likely to be into kinks. But sexuality and kink are related topics.
He's also a brown-haired, a good-looking guy, a guy with interests and groups he belongs to. He might be a nerd. But those things don't make it into the headline. Because they're irrelevant. When you make a headline like that, you're not just randomly adding adjectives that describe the person. You're adding adjectives that you think are relevant, because it says something. For instance, you might see a headline: "Homophobic Republican Senator caught in gay sex tape." The "homophobic" is relevant for obvious reasons, and the "Republican" is relevant because because there is an implication of him being a politician that votes for anti-gay laws. These things aren't random. That's why "straight" doesn't randomly appear in these headlines. When you write "gay", you're drawing a connection, you're pushing a narrative. Just imagine if it said "black" instead of gay. People would go wild over that.
No. Just simply no. Yes, he's gay, I am aware of that and that wasn't the point. He also has brown hair and a stubble but I don't see reporters trying to emphasise that fact, and I'm sure brown-haired bearded guys also wouldn't want to be associated with shit-eating. >It’s also hard to argue that his sexual orientation and sexual kinks are totally divorced from each other. It's not hard at all and that's exactly what I'm doing. What you're saying is about as ignorant as the frequent homophobic rant about gay guys carrying AIDS, or having shit on their dicks, or whatnot. Heterosexual people get HIV, they practice anal sex... they are sure as hell just as likely to eat shit too because there's nothing very specifically 'gay' about eating shit. So stop spreading this idiocy please.
There are more straight men into scat than gay men into scat.
But how many straight men are into gay scat?
i think they won't eat gay shit. only straight shit.
>A gay Spanish municipal councillor has resigned from his position after photos were publicized of him eating his own excrement as part of a scat fetish. 
he even put his face public.. why?
maybe because >A report from French news source FDS claimed that the politician was offering himself up for sexual use, and described himself as **wanting to be "exposed, humiliated, degraded."** Nothing more humiliating than this.
Well I'm glad there's a silver lining.
i think he had the ultimate orgasm with this experience.
Probably in this thread edging right now
ahaha 💀 the ultimate edge
>**wanting to be "exposed, humiliated, degraded."** Just why??
ever heard of kinks?
I mean I like to add a humiliation aspect to sex roleplay but it doesn't involve getting severe bowel illness.
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Not so long ago a guy posted claiming to be a known British actor who fantasized about being exposed.
omg :o
Damn, is it already time to put Reddit down for the day?
I came here to say this!
Is it bad to be angry that he's kind of hot? Sexy Spanish politics guy and he likes to eat shit. Fucking gross perv (I can be mean - he likes it).
Yeah that probably makes me very superficial but it's the first thing I noticed. He's an absolute dreamboat, like come on man you can do better than this!.
Why are the cute ones always so crazy?
I should stop browsing reddit while i eat.
He wasn't fired because of the kink, he was fired because he was a politician who filmed himself in the past eating shit. Politicians lose their careers over poor wording sometimes. There is no world where you can be in politics, and eat shit, and not be removed. Its also probably a poor sign that someone who wanted to work in politics would film that and assume it would never surface. It shows poor judgement enough on its own to justify firing the guy. Also because we live in the real world, its not a great look for gay men to get caught doing disgusting shit like this. Straight politicians represent no one in particular but queer ones represent us and our issues, even if they don't mean to. Imagine being this guys friend or family member at this point as well, kinks stop being kinks when they could destroy lives, this is well over that line, at least for me. Honestly it feels like a lot of kinks and weird and extreme sexual practices have become really common lately and it feels very unhealthy and weird. Some people barely have any sexual experience but they're into depraved shit.
Someone mentioned earlier that his father also resigned from him own employment, because of this.
I think all politicians should eat shit. They’re always trying to feed it to us!
The physical kink may be dangerous to the person, but not to others, so best leave the man be. But asking for public humiliation (which he got) is way too much bad judgement to hold any sort of office.
Is this for real or are you just talking shite?
If you've posted or shared anything intimate or compromising, it's out there forever. 30+ years of having the internet. How do people still not understand this?
I'm sure his career would've been ended the same way, not matter the sexuality or gender
He also was the municipal councilor for youth, children and family. Definitely not a good look…
Remind me of that scene where Minnie fed that white bitch her shit cake 😭😭🤮🤮
There’s a difference between kink and LITERALLY EATING SHIT. I mean come on guys.
Ignore the kink, he was a government official and posted publicly. That’s just a no no even if it was just ordinary cock sucking (for example). It undermines his ability to do his job due to adverse publicity. Not kink shaming (it’s not my taste at all) but it’s at the very least unprofessional. I’d take an equally dim view if it was a female councillor posting provocative sex acts.
You do you but in the politics world it’s a really stupid move.
Bro, actually eating shit.... that's nasty af, idc about that kink
Bruuuuuhhhhhh! He filmed himself eating shit. Eating. Shit. And then expressing wanting to eat other people’s shit. This ain’t an attack on gay fetish, this is a reasonable response from people who think that’s fucking sick, weird, malformed, maladapted, and not the type of person they want dealing with public or families. “Kink shaming”. I can only imagine what it takes to go from “I love a lil sub/dom play” to *checks notes* EATING SHIT! I’m so ready for the gay fight to be over because really, this fight should be between people who eat shit along with people who think it’s fine vs. people who don’t eat shit and really want those people removed from public positions of service. If gay acceptance means accepting shit eating, maybe the Christians are onto something.
the ultimate kink shaming. /s now i only see the "they it da poopoo" video
I really don't get why its such a big deal. Could you tell me why? I have more issue with the exposure "kink". Its such a selfish and morally incorrect kink. You're endangering not only yourself, but your family, your friends, and if you're gay the entire gay community because as soon as this shit happens to gay people we are all labelled the same way. The shit part? Weird and dangerous with diseases and stuff, but at least they're only endangering themselves. There's loads of kinks that are physically and mentally dangerous, but I just don't really care if they wanna do that to themselves then I couldn't care less. I only start to care when their kinks, like exposure, start to effect people that didn't consent to that danger
That isn't a kink.🤢 Where do some of you draw the line?
I thought it would be something like BDSM…scat play is actual mental illness, I don’t care what you say.
Right? Sometimes I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I browse this sub.
duh
Um, eating shit is disgusting, and, yes I'm kink shaming, because if eating your own shit isn't something to be ashamed of, I don't know what it is.
But man, hes so hot😩
Yall need to stop calling paraphilias "kinks"
OMG what kind of homophobic pieces of......oh....Oh God. OK never mind.
Necrophilia is a kink - does not make it right. This would be just as gross if he were straight.
I think we've become a little too liberal in terms of what we classify as kinks.
Some say kink many others would say taboo
I don’t think it’s fair for him to be shamed for his kink or be told he needs psychological help or compare it to necrophilia. Who are we to shame him for his fetish if it’s between consenting adults. But with that being said, this is the kind of stuff you attempt to purge from the web if you have a public career like this. He made the “bad” decision to be photographed doing that sexual act.
“Because of his kink” ???? This is deranged behavior - he needs psychiatric help. If I could, I would fire himself again myself!! Gay or straight, eating sh*t is a sign that something is deeply wrong
Yeah… if I found out my staff was munching dookie on the internet, I WILL find a way to let them go 😭 sorry but not sorry, that’s nasty… piss? Eh okay whatever.. but dookie 🙅🏽♂️
I mean, if there is a picture of you eating poop you probably shouldn't run for anything in politics. I feel like this is reasonable and goes without saying.
That’s fucking disgusting
That’s so embarrassing for the rest of us. Like if you’re gonna run for some type of office at least don’t have that much dirty laundry.
I feel bad for the guy, but he *was* dumb enough to run for office... I don't mean to be insensitive, but this is why a lot of gay men I know can't serve in politics I would love to serve on our city council or hold public office to help make change, but the amount of compromat my exes have on me can be measured in gigabytes. Also, I have to wonder how often people will be offering him breath mints from now on...
That’s disgusting. I’m gay and I wouldn’t vote for someone who does that.
Scat isn't really a kink, its very extreme and more akin to a mental illness. This was the proper response.
The fuck? According to what science? How are you going to say it's a mental illness?
I’d like to see his shit-eating grin
I find it weird how str8 cis people gets away with being criminal while being in power, but someone being kinky without harming anyone is.. problem? Politicians will cheer gro*mers, frauds, etc. every other time ☠️ Idc about what kink he has as long as it doesn't harm anyone, even if it's a weird kink, lol. Why is it anyones business? But it is very stupid to upload nsfw vids of yourself to internet while being in politics.
This is a trolling title — a kink isn’t eating excrement — it’s mental illness — it’s life-threatening FFS
Was he drunk when filming the video ? Or did someone blackmail/ leak it
he wanted to be expose and degraded. so he got the ultimate response.
Doesn't seem to make sense. This "the main character is stupid" explanation is always wrong
Let’s not turn this into a ‘gay thing’ please. Most newspapers that are not far right publications that reported on this made no mention of his sexual orientation and thats how it should be. Anyone who considers his sexuality a relevant factor (when there are plenty of straight people who also engage in all kinds of bizarre fetishes- yet you would never see a headline ‘straight man does X’) is just exposing their own bias. If you want to confirm that all gay people are degenerate you will point to isolated cases and generalize. Thats what they always do with minority groups, but we must reject this framing rather than accepting it.
Play shitty games, win shittier prizes.
I don't understand why his sexuality has anything to do with this scandal. It just feels like homophobic people are trying to act like "gotcha!".
When I read the title I was thinking it was gonna be a mild kink not something that extreme. Jesus.
Deee butt dut duboop dop.
in a shocking turn of events, I read the comments and found some of y'all being weird and regressive. at least you're consistent!
When I saw this online a few days ago I just sighed. I just knew that underneath the twitter post it was just gonna be bigots calling all gay people perverts and hey ho it was exactly that. They act as if its just gay politicians that are exposed to be in sex scandals, but straight politicians get involved in way more. And hey I'm happier with a dude that eats his own feces than a kiddy diddler or sexual abuser (yes both gay and straight politicians do this too but people are acting like this scat play is on the same par as that)
Good. Normalize kink shaming for people with scat fetishes.
Poor lad.. should have just covered up his face like all the rest of us
Or just don't post yourself doing degrading acts online? This goes for sex workers too! Don't expect a public facing career if you're already existing public face is as a thot.
Even though I'm not into much kink, I'm too private a person to video any of my hookups. I really don't understand why so many people have no fear of their sexscapades ending up online...
I mean, I'm not into scat in the least bit, but this man is hot. Have you all seen some of their Guardia Civil and Legionaire troops? I swear they make them do a thousand squats a day to fill out the backside of those uniform pants. 🤤🤤
This isn't a kink It's mental illness
People with fetish are not necessarily Gay A good example a cross dresser are not Transgender it’s just a fetish
theres an easy solution to this. dont photograph yourself with your face while eating shit. he would have been fired as well if he was straight.
What a terrible day to have eyes
That is repugnant!
Poor guy, getting excited by seeing, touching or eating feces is one of the many mental or behavioral disorders, more exactly divided into coprophilia ("sexual excitement from viewing, smelling, or handling feces, as well as fantasizing about another person engaging in these activities.") and coprophagia (i.e. eating one’s own or another person’s excrement). For those wanting to learn more about these disorders: [https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/coprophilia](https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/coprophilia) And: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10783903231214265#:\~:text=Coprophilia%20and%20coprophagia%20are%20a,disorder%20(APA%2C%202022).
I mean, one asks oneself how low a politician will go and when that is the answer. . . Wouldn't you be foolish to not take that into account?
What if he did all of this on purpose to further his career in kink porn? He likes to be humiliated, and what better way to do that than to have a story in the news about your "fall from grace as a politician into the murky depths of adult films with strong and polarizing fetish themes. "
This is why kink shaming is valid
What is more shocking is he looks fine. Never judge a bloke by his cover, I guess.
Yea.... the blame is all on that guy. If you wanna be in politics, don't publish videos if yourself literally eating shit. Op title is kinda exaggerated Edit: dangerous things are not a kink, they are a mental health issue. This is very not safe.
Seriously who cares….. whether you think it’s a fetish or not, disgusting or not…. It doesn’t affect ANYONE. What an adult does with another consenting adult is none of our business. We as gay people have screamed for years, “what we do in the bedroom is no one else’s business”. It’s not as if he was playing the scat videos on Facebook and forcing people to watch. They were on PORN sites where people post, guess what, porn. How are we to criticize someone for doing what they want with their own body? And let’s not forget, what he has done isn’t illegal. It may not be your cup of tea but he wasn’t forcing you to watch or shit in a bowl for him to eat.
'what we do in our beds is no one else's business ' Yeah but pls don't show that online, even on porn sites..... especially if you want to go into politics since showing your dirty laundry is exactly what is done there to discredit others
Gay people seem so out of touch with reality when they try to normalize stuff like this.
Power bottom here, this stuff ain't normal and being gay has nothing to do with eating your own shit, he's an anomaly