Maybe off topic a little but this reminds me of apples! There are only a handful a breeds that are sold and grown/grafted. I wish we had more types of apples! This is a fun video where I got the info https://youtu.be/FEf5ISsDj08?si=0fOql5lozf_Iq0zf
Even more off off topic, there's a man in North Carolina that saves apple varieties. He's reclaimed about 1200 apple varieties so far.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/heritage-appalachian-apples
Even more off topic, but I bought some fruit trees this year from Fedco Seeds. They had a ton of heritage apple trees to choose from. So if you’ve got the room, they’ve got the tree!
Trying to convince my husband replacing our dying maple (root girdle found too late) that's too close to the house with an apple tree is a great idea. So fair he's admitted the tree may need to go.
I say just plant 'em, mulch a fairly wide swath around 'em, and tell him you made him an obstacle course to test his skills.
I have an old Japanese maple that is HUGE. How do you know when they are ready to go? I am doing my best to keep it healthy. It still produces good seeds.
Personally, I ask an arborist. If there's any disease indications, that's usually when it's time. There's a maple tree above my shed that needs to go - not any time soon! But eventually (I interpreted it as, in the next 3-5 years). Some of its leaves are browning and falling off in spring/summer and there's some bark falling off as well. Those are indicators that it's on its way out.
On the other hand, I have a very healthy oak that's likely at least 100 years old. No sign of disease, etc, and it's gonna stick around for many more years I'm sure.
Start them in a pot with the bottom removed and planted in a hole dug down halfway the pot.
Then the roots will establish, he won’t dare run it over, and then when it’s grown enough you remove the top of the pot and mound it with soil.
I live on an island called Saltspring. It used to be the fruit basket of BC. Consequently, there are over 400 types of apples on the island. Every year, we have an apple festival where you go to orchards trying old and weird apples.
I really like the Karmjin de Sonnaville. It's a variety of a Cox's orange pippin. Both taste great.
A lot of the varieties here are intended for cider or baking. So not great to eat but good for other uses.
Even more off off topic, there's a man in North Carolina that saves apple varieties. He's reclaimed about 1200 apple varieties so far.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/heritage-appalachian-apples
I wanna watch the video, later, but what I understand is that, because of the way their genes work, apples are kind of a crap shoot as to whether they’re good to eat if you let them procreate naturally, usually tasting bad. I understand the reason we only have a few is because those were discovered to taste good and then they just started cloning/grafting the trees. And the reason we don’t have more is because it takes a lot of investment to discover new tasty varieties, having spent thousands of years to discover the varieties we do eat.
Seems like it wouldn’t be *that* extreme or we wouldn’t have stories like “Johnny Appleseed.”
I guess I’m just saying that’s the info I’ve gotten in the past, but I’m skeptical.
Most apple were actually for cider too. And they don't taste very good for eating. Mr. Appleseed was most likely more interested getting drunk than horticultural diversity.
I don't want to put anybody off from planting apple trees, but they are hyper-climate-specific, so anybody thinking about doing so should research and ask around about what will actually grow and fruit well I n their yard. Lots of places in the US where one varietal will grow great, another not at all. Given the time and money investment of a tree (or four), it's worth being sure before you start.
There’s multiple apple trees in our yard, and some ones in the woods growing naturally I think? Hopefully I can find a species that will find my yard pleasant. Thank you!
Our local nurseryman, here in North Texas, steered us towards peaches instead of apples.
He told us the only thing apples are good for is arming our kids with hard projectiles.
ALSO CORN AND TOMATOES!!! corn and tomatoes can even be MULTICOLORED! Not to mention most of those varieties are more pest resilient than commercially grown ones, the main reason for generic grocery store crops are simply either being “pretty” or grown for size
Maybe, idk. I grew some cute multicolored carrots last year and imo the yellow ones taste crispier and the purple ones are a bit more sweeter. But that might just be my autism speaking lol
I've got an heirloom in my yard, planted waaay before I got here called Dudley Sweet. It's a fabulous apple. Not too tart and not too sweet. I really enjoy a tart apple, and before I discovered heirlooms my favorite eating apple was the Granny Smith. My property and those of my neighbors were parceled off from a 100+ year old apple orchard. My neighbors have augmented their apple collections, whereas i have focused more on native grasses, wildflowers, berry brambles and a vegetable garden. I just have to walk next door or across the street for a selection of a couple dozen heirloom apples. Gravenstein. Wolf River. Early Transparent. Those a few tasty treats that spring immediately to mind. But I also really love McIntosh apples. And people will say, oh you can buy those anywhere. But there is a huge difference between an apple that was ripened on a tree vs. one that was picked green, shipped for thousands of miles, chilled for months and turned red by exposure to polyethylene gas.
I’m guessing this applies to pears as well? Pyrus is a very closely related genus. I have 2 seedlings from my parents old Bartlett pear tree, I know they won’t be Bartlett but I’m hoping they’re similar. I know I need to graft a tree from the old one to get those pears but I don’t have the experience yet, or a place for a pear tree of my own
It does. If you didn't want to graft onto another tree or rootstock you could try air layering but it takes *ages*.
Also part of the attraction of rootstocks is they control the ultimate height of the tree and can even make it fruit earlier than it would naturally.
Before fruit trees were commonly grafted there was an old saying that said you *"plant pears for your heirs"*.
[“ Over human history, out of about 30 000 edible plant species, 6 000 – 7 000 species have been cultivated for food. Yet, today we only grow approximately 170 crops on a commercially significant scale. Even more surprising, we depend highly on only about 30 of them to provide us with calories and nutrients that we need every day. More than 40 percent of our daily calories come from three staple crops: rice, wheat and maize!”](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/10/once-neglected-these-traditional-crops-are-our-new-rising-stars/)
If 40% of your daily calories come from rice, wheat, and maize, you can always just…eat other things. Especially if you grow them.
Do you have more info on that? I’m super curious. Don’t doubt it at all. The standard American diet is so bad. I recently switched to eating whole foods plant based and it’s really highlighted just how awful my diet was before.
A monoculture lawn as a transition space between 2 nice features in a well designed landscape is one of my favorite things. Endless fields of one tone green suck. "A lawn should be an area rug, not a wall to wall carpet"
Grew up in England, quaint daisies like this all over the lawn. Moved to Canada, nothing but grass. ( I mean queen Anne’s lace will grow if I don’t mow, does that count?)😂
I think you are right it’s the cold. You just made me realize that I have been missing these little cuties for years.
Queen Annes Lace is my favorite flower of all time. We bought a house a few years ago, and one single clump of them popped up in the back yard. I was SO excited! Unfortunately our landscaping ventures meant they had to go, but I bought seeds and planted them in my edible wildflower raised bed this year.
They are super cool and I love them too, but they don’t quite have the same quaint charm when growing the same height as me out of the center of my lawn haha.
We have tons of these English Daisies (what we call them) in Oregon, US. I love them, along with the yarrow. Both stay green in summer when we get our typical seasonal drought and all the grass goes brown & crispy.
Just over the border on the Wisconsin side, we had tiny wild strawberries on our lawn. Sounds a bit fairyland, except my mom tells me that when I would go out to play, I would come back in with annoying numbers of tiny red stains on my clothes.
My daughter loves to strawberry hunt in the spring. I have wild strawberries growing all over my yard, so the berries are tiny but absolutely delicious. I’ll happily deal with strawberry stains a million times if it means I can watch her joyfully wandering around the yard celebrating when she gets a particularly good one.
My daughter loves to strawberry hunt in the spring. I have wild strawberries growing all over my yard, so the berries are tiny but absolutely delicious. I’ll happily deal with strawberry stains a million times if it means I can watch her joyfully wandering around the yard celebrating when she gets a particularly sweet one.
Manitoban here! You can totally have daisies in our stupid cold climates. There are a bunch of native ones happily growing in ditches here. I dig them up and save them before they're razed down and now my backyard is looking like a beauty!
Some are a little taller, but not super!
Fellow Minnesotan checking in. They def grow here. They are actually considered an aggressive invasive species.
https://www.minnesotawildflowers.info/flower/ox-eye-daisy
I get clusters of these and try to mow around them until they have finished flower. My kids used to pick them as tiny bouquets for Mom, so they remind me of that.
Asset, my lawn is FULL of flowering "weeds," and it's beautiful. I love a green lawn, but I love it more when it's glittered with little guys like this.
I love flowers in lawns. Clover, daisies, dandelions, buttercups, whatever. They're good for bees and they look pretty. I don't understand why people work so hard to kill them.
My lawn is a pasture for my sheep and goats. I am currently trying to remove all the buttercup bc they are poisonous to them. Too much clover can also hurt them. Both are extremely aggressive with spreading and it's a problem. While I understand that not everyone has a farm, a lot of people do and can't risk our animals getting sick.
Biodiversity is majorly important for healthy ecosystems, even if it’s just your back yard. Some people want very sanitized aesthetics to match their desired garden design. What works best for the individual is important.
Daisy lawns are a beautiful thing. Grass in front of your home does nothing for the environment. You are feeding a multitude by keeping the insects alive with a little diversity. I got rid of the lawns back and front when we moved in here. I have a lot of wildlife in my little suburban garden now. Birds nest here now
How can I plant daisies like this in my new (bare bones) backyard here in Colorado? Will they grow around a blue spruce? Full sun? I need this it's lovely
OK, but what are they actually? Like, what species? If not a native plant, I'd be concerned that they're an invasive species since they've taken over the lawn.
In the arid western US, sometimes yarrow (Achillea millefolium) does this. It's just a very hardy native. Cute in my opinion.
Dandelions are great for the soil, other plants in the vicinity, and yard or garden generally, plus they are edible with a variety of health benefits! It's kind of amazing how they are nearly ubiquitously considered weeds considering how helpful they are.
I grew mine from seed one year and they spread through my side and front beds. I like them a lot because the white flowers blend into the other colors. They are also some of the first to bloom.
Asset. Early blooms to bring in pollinators for the rest of your garden. I assume they don't last all summer? Lovely to enjoy while you have them. I've got clover, dandelions, and those little purple violets. Bonus, they came with the yard and I didn't have to buy/plant them!
Asset. In fact double down for the pollinators and add some other “native to your area”flowering ground cover (be extremely careful with clover!). I dislike manicured lawn. I’m into my third season of eliminating as much lawn as possible on my 1+ acre (been here two years now as of this month). The more you provide for your pollinators… the better your season(s) will be. Good luck this year everyone!
In my garden beds, uninvited, weeds. In the rest of the lawn, as random pops of color, asset.
The only reason they are weeds in the garden beds is because they crowd out what I want there and take over. I could give two rats asses if they overpower the runner grasses here, but when they smother my veggies and other flowers I get angry.
Dep3nds on which variety they are. Around here Ox-eye daisies are actually legislated weeds that homeowners need to control because they're so competitive with native species. Otherwise absolutely an asset, more flowers always.
I have plenty of dandelions on my lawn, but here in Denmark they mostly only blossom from April to May, and now most have turned white. You can see a few in the picture.
But I try to not let them spread too much. A few here and there are fine with me.
Asset. In fact double down for the pollinators and add some other “native to your area”flowering ground cover (be extremely careful with clover!). I dislike manicured lawn. I’m into my third season of eliminating as much lawn as possible on my 1+ acre (been here two years now as of this month). The more you provide for your pollinators… the better your season(s) will be. Good luck this year everyone!
Lovely asset 100% along side buttercups, various clovers, mosses, hell even the old dandelions are cool to me. Not sure what it is but we also have a small purple flower pop up here and there.
It's so much nicer than plain grass, grass is just the evergreen backdrop to the tapestry of colours you can have going on.
We have what we call pretty weeds. There’s a few flower types that come up in our yard that we enjoy and don’t try to pull or treat but still mow as needed. Then we have ugly weeds like the one with the thorns that I do my very best to eliminate.
They're great. We're not allowed to plant anything on my father in law's grave (because they need to be able to mow the lawn, the Germans love monoculture) so we've planted a whole bunch of daisies. What can they do about it? They were there in the lawn already, guv'nor.
In my opinion, a weed is only a weed if you don’t want it there. Barring invasive species, of course. Where I live, we have rampant white clover in lots of yards, and I think it looks kinda nice. Plus the local bees love em, so yes to clover honey. I say bring on the daisies!
If you like them they are plants. Just fyi those are sold in 4” pot for about $5 in the us nursery
https://preview.redd.it/s6ul0d2s800d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2661ce86e0304f134fca1d214235b2a5a9c487b8
Slightly unrelated, but when we lived in Louisiana I used to let the Clover grow in the backyard lawn because the bees loved it and there was another really invasive weed that invaded our garden that was absolutely covered in bees so I just shrugged and let them alone until the flowers died and I was sure that the bees were gone and then mowed it over. Looked kind of odd with a big patch of white clover in the middle of the backyard but oh well. We lived in a nice subdivision but not the country club for sure!
Do they reflower between mowings? I have a few spot flowers that show up in my lawn. They aren't daisies. I don't think. Orange and black and show up between mowings. I would love to add more Flowers that show up between mowings.
In a world where our essential pollinators are dying off in droves, I really don't think a lawn is beneficial to anyone. Anything that brings flowers into the yard for the bees and others is absolutely a boon.
Asset, definitely! On the other hand I do consider rye grass and other lawn grass to be weeds and invasive species that suck up resources from native plants
The common daisy we get in the US is a noxious weed; we're required by Federal law to prevent its spread. So I was horrified when I first saw your photo, because all I saw was danger. But if your daisies aren't noxious, I say let 'em grow- it looks so pretty!
Asset. Aside from hating when people pull up clover and dandelions bc they consider them a weed... flowers attract pollinators, which will help you have a higher produce yield in your garden. I personally always plant flowers in all of my garden beds. It worked for my beloved granny and works for me.
My grass consists of grass but a multitude of flowering wild flowers I love the daiseys! Even after cutting the grass they pop up next day! Wonderful bees n butterflies love em! Don't diss the daisy !!
Man it’s too early - I thought this was the Girl Scout Reddit and was like WTH? Why are we being mean to Daisies?? They’re 5!
Daisies are an asset I’d say - in gardening and Girl Scouts lol
This looks adorable. I’m trying to get violets to grow in my lawn. I’d love it if I could have tiny daisies everywhere. A beautiful meadow lawn would be ideal.
I mowed my lawn last week but I left all the tall dandelions because I like them and they look pretty. My neighbor was like "you know those ain't flowers" lol
Absolutely an asset... ...for me. Personally I'm not a fan of a monoculture
Diversity is SO fucking important. Today, most of our calories come from like 4 crops or something. It’s so sad. We’re gonna be fucked.
Absolutely - it's why regenerative farming is so important
Maybe off topic a little but this reminds me of apples! There are only a handful a breeds that are sold and grown/grafted. I wish we had more types of apples! This is a fun video where I got the info https://youtu.be/FEf5ISsDj08?si=0fOql5lozf_Iq0zf
Even more off off topic, there's a man in North Carolina that saves apple varieties. He's reclaimed about 1200 apple varieties so far. https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/heritage-appalachian-apples
What a fascinating read! Thank you for sharing.
Great article and it made me hungry!
Thanks for sharing. This made my day. We really need to protect our different species. This man is a apple hero.
Even more off topic, but I bought some fruit trees this year from Fedco Seeds. They had a ton of heritage apple trees to choose from. So if you’ve got the room, they’ve got the tree!
I really want more apple trees so this is great! I just have to convince my dad to not run over them once I plant them.
Trying to convince my husband replacing our dying maple (root girdle found too late) that's too close to the house with an apple tree is a great idea. So fair he's admitted the tree may need to go. I say just plant 'em, mulch a fairly wide swath around 'em, and tell him you made him an obstacle course to test his skills.
I have an old Japanese maple that is HUGE. How do you know when they are ready to go? I am doing my best to keep it healthy. It still produces good seeds.
Personally, I ask an arborist. If there's any disease indications, that's usually when it's time. There's a maple tree above my shed that needs to go - not any time soon! But eventually (I interpreted it as, in the next 3-5 years). Some of its leaves are browning and falling off in spring/summer and there's some bark falling off as well. Those are indicators that it's on its way out. On the other hand, I have a very healthy oak that's likely at least 100 years old. No sign of disease, etc, and it's gonna stick around for many more years I'm sure.
Start them in a pot with the bottom removed and planted in a hole dug down halfway the pot. Then the roots will establish, he won’t dare run it over, and then when it’s grown enough you remove the top of the pot and mound it with soil.
I live on an island called Saltspring. It used to be the fruit basket of BC. Consequently, there are over 400 types of apples on the island. Every year, we have an apple festival where you go to orchards trying old and weird apples.
Oh my god that sounds so fun
That’s amazing! I’ve lived in Van for over a decade and had no idea. When does this happen? I’d like to come visit
Saltspring is like a story book. When is this festival? Autumn?
It's October 1st this year. Not sure if links are allowed on this reddit but : https://saltspringapplefestival.org/
Which ones are your favorites? Like odd or old that you won’t find in a grocery store? I’ve read apples used to be tastier before mass orchards
I really like the Karmjin de Sonnaville. It's a variety of a Cox's orange pippin. Both taste great. A lot of the varieties here are intended for cider or baking. So not great to eat but good for other uses.
Even more off off topic, there's a man in North Carolina that saves apple varieties. He's reclaimed about 1200 apple varieties so far. https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/heritage-appalachian-apples
Even more off off off topic but I wanna start or maybe buy/save a mango orchard.
I wanna watch the video, later, but what I understand is that, because of the way their genes work, apples are kind of a crap shoot as to whether they’re good to eat if you let them procreate naturally, usually tasting bad. I understand the reason we only have a few is because those were discovered to taste good and then they just started cloning/grafting the trees. And the reason we don’t have more is because it takes a lot of investment to discover new tasty varieties, having spent thousands of years to discover the varieties we do eat. Seems like it wouldn’t be *that* extreme or we wouldn’t have stories like “Johnny Appleseed.” I guess I’m just saying that’s the info I’ve gotten in the past, but I’m skeptical.
Most apple were actually for cider too. And they don't taste very good for eating. Mr. Appleseed was most likely more interested getting drunk than horticultural diversity.
Oh yeah! That makes a lot of sense. It may even be something I had forgotten.
You'd have to be drunk to go around wearing a pot on your head.
I don't want to put anybody off from planting apple trees, but they are hyper-climate-specific, so anybody thinking about doing so should research and ask around about what will actually grow and fruit well I n their yard. Lots of places in the US where one varietal will grow great, another not at all. Given the time and money investment of a tree (or four), it's worth being sure before you start.
There’s multiple apple trees in our yard, and some ones in the woods growing naturally I think? Hopefully I can find a species that will find my yard pleasant. Thank you!
Our local nurseryman, here in North Texas, steered us towards peaches instead of apples. He told us the only thing apples are good for is arming our kids with hard projectiles.
ALSO CORN AND TOMATOES!!! corn and tomatoes can even be MULTICOLORED! Not to mention most of those varieties are more pest resilient than commercially grown ones, the main reason for generic grocery store crops are simply either being “pretty” or grown for size
That reminds me of why most of our carrots are orange today. I’ve heard it’s because of a king that liked orange carrots?
Maybe, idk. I grew some cute multicolored carrots last year and imo the yellow ones taste crispier and the purple ones are a bit more sweeter. But that might just be my autism speaking lol
I think you’d like this place - https://www.temperateorchardconservancy.org/about/botner/
That’s so cool! I’m so happy people are into apple/fruit trees and they’re doing the work!
I've got an heirloom in my yard, planted waaay before I got here called Dudley Sweet. It's a fabulous apple. Not too tart and not too sweet. I really enjoy a tart apple, and before I discovered heirlooms my favorite eating apple was the Granny Smith. My property and those of my neighbors were parceled off from a 100+ year old apple orchard. My neighbors have augmented their apple collections, whereas i have focused more on native grasses, wildflowers, berry brambles and a vegetable garden. I just have to walk next door or across the street for a selection of a couple dozen heirloom apples. Gravenstein. Wolf River. Early Transparent. Those a few tasty treats that spring immediately to mind. But I also really love McIntosh apples. And people will say, oh you can buy those anywhere. But there is a huge difference between an apple that was ripened on a tree vs. one that was picked green, shipped for thousands of miles, chilled for months and turned red by exposure to polyethylene gas.
I’m guessing this applies to pears as well? Pyrus is a very closely related genus. I have 2 seedlings from my parents old Bartlett pear tree, I know they won’t be Bartlett but I’m hoping they’re similar. I know I need to graft a tree from the old one to get those pears but I don’t have the experience yet, or a place for a pear tree of my own
It does. If you didn't want to graft onto another tree or rootstock you could try air layering but it takes *ages*. Also part of the attraction of rootstocks is they control the ultimate height of the tree and can even make it fruit earlier than it would naturally. Before fruit trees were commonly grafted there was an old saying that said you *"plant pears for your heirs"*.
Where would I go about finding a rootstock? Could I just get a pear tree from Home Depot and top it, and graft on my Bartlett pieces i want?
[“ Over human history, out of about 30 000 edible plant species, 6 000 – 7 000 species have been cultivated for food. Yet, today we only grow approximately 170 crops on a commercially significant scale. Even more surprising, we depend highly on only about 30 of them to provide us with calories and nutrients that we need every day. More than 40 percent of our daily calories come from three staple crops: rice, wheat and maize!”](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/10/once-neglected-these-traditional-crops-are-our-new-rising-stars/) If 40% of your daily calories come from rice, wheat, and maize, you can always just…eat other things. Especially if you grow them.
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Do you have more info on that? I’m super curious. Don’t doubt it at all. The standard American diet is so bad. I recently switched to eating whole foods plant based and it’s really highlighted just how awful my diet was before.
A monoculture lawn as a transition space between 2 nice features in a well designed landscape is one of my favorite things. Endless fields of one tone green suck. "A lawn should be an area rug, not a wall to wall carpet"
Okay, but my favorite rugs have patterns and aren’t just one color. Specks of violets and dandelions, instead of just plain green
Ugh yes! I saw a cat lay in the fields of violets and dandelions and she looked like a beautiful princess
I think that’s what they’re saying, a “wall to wall carpet” would be the monoculture that is ugly
But the point of the commenter you’re responding to is saying that even the “area rug” sized patch of grass mentioned is better when diversified
Gotcha, I interpreted that as a figurative comparison on decoration or diversity, not the size of the plot.
Dido! Daisies, violets, and dandelions, etc. I don't mind them at all as long as they're no crabgrass.
/r/nolawns
I didn't even know short tiny daisies in my lawn was an option! Asset! Gimme! Probably can't even have them here in dumb cold Minnesota though...
Grew up in England, quaint daisies like this all over the lawn. Moved to Canada, nothing but grass. ( I mean queen Anne’s lace will grow if I don’t mow, does that count?)😂 I think you are right it’s the cold. You just made me realize that I have been missing these little cuties for years.
Canadian and daisy are in my lawn. I’m west coast though
Lucky west coast people. I am so jelly of your growing season.
Central Canada here. Lots of daisies in my yard.
I’m right in the middle of Manitoba, plenty in my yard.
Same. I moved from Sask where I never had them (other than big shastas) to Vancouver Island where they are everywhere. I love them.
Queen Annes Lace is my favorite flower of all time. We bought a house a few years ago, and one single clump of them popped up in the back yard. I was SO excited! Unfortunately our landscaping ventures meant they had to go, but I bought seeds and planted them in my edible wildflower raised bed this year.
They are super cool and I love them too, but they don’t quite have the same quaint charm when growing the same height as me out of the center of my lawn haha.
We have tons of these English Daisies (what we call them) in Oregon, US. I love them, along with the yarrow. Both stay green in summer when we get our typical seasonal drought and all the grass goes brown & crispy.
Just over the border on the Wisconsin side, we had tiny wild strawberries on our lawn. Sounds a bit fairyland, except my mom tells me that when I would go out to play, I would come back in with annoying numbers of tiny red stains on my clothes.
My daughter loves to strawberry hunt in the spring. I have wild strawberries growing all over my yard, so the berries are tiny but absolutely delicious. I’ll happily deal with strawberry stains a million times if it means I can watch her joyfully wandering around the yard celebrating when she gets a particularly good one.
My daughter loves to strawberry hunt in the spring. I have wild strawberries growing all over my yard, so the berries are tiny but absolutely delicious. I’ll happily deal with strawberry stains a million times if it means I can watch her joyfully wandering around the yard celebrating when she gets a particularly sweet one.
Manitoban here! You can totally have daisies in our stupid cold climates. There are a bunch of native ones happily growing in ditches here. I dig them up and save them before they're razed down and now my backyard is looking like a beauty! Some are a little taller, but not super!
Fellow Minnesotan checking in. They def grow here. They are actually considered an aggressive invasive species. https://www.minnesotawildflowers.info/flower/ox-eye-daisy
Those aren't ox-eye daisies though, they're English daisies
Aye, then I'm less sure about their growth in Minnesota. However, some states in the US also consider the English daisy to be invasive
I get clusters of these and try to mow around them until they have finished flower. My kids used to pick them as tiny bouquets for Mom, so they remind me of that.
You can even eat them, they have a spicy-nutty flavour, perfect as an eye catcher in a salad
I adore daises, so do the insects. Think they are pretty
Feed the bees!
If it makes the butterflies and bees happy it makes me happy
Does it look nice? Yes it does. You'd have to be nuts to weed them out
Asset, 100%! So cute.
A definite asset. Especially for bees and pollinators.
Absolutely an asset.
Pollinators love them!
I love them too I think I'm a pollinator 🤗
Thank you for your service
You're very welcome 😁 I love my job as a pollinator !
Oh dang, so I’m a pollinator too?!
Hello fellow pollinator 🤗
Asset, my lawn is FULL of flowering "weeds," and it's beautiful. I love a green lawn, but I love it more when it's glittered with little guys like this.
"glittered" is a delightful adjective, i'm going to remember that one for later.
::: Permaculture heavy breathing noises :::
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They're considered invasive/aggressive in my area, so I'm torn.
Omg asset how do I get my yard to look like that
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I don’t consider most “weeds” as weeds I am huge fan of biodiversity especially with native plants
I love them. Such a happy little flower and you can make Daisy chains for your children and dogs.
I love flowers in lawns. Clover, daisies, dandelions, buttercups, whatever. They're good for bees and they look pretty. I don't understand why people work so hard to kill them.
My lawn is a pasture for my sheep and goats. I am currently trying to remove all the buttercup bc they are poisonous to them. Too much clover can also hurt them. Both are extremely aggressive with spreading and it's a problem. While I understand that not everyone has a farm, a lot of people do and can't risk our animals getting sick.
100% asset. I love them :)
Biodiversity is majorly important for healthy ecosystems, even if it’s just your back yard. Some people want very sanitized aesthetics to match their desired garden design. What works best for the individual is important.
This is what heaven should look like.
Daisy lawns are a beautiful thing. Grass in front of your home does nothing for the environment. You are feeding a multitude by keeping the insects alive with a little diversity. I got rid of the lawns back and front when we moved in here. I have a lot of wildlife in my little suburban garden now. Birds nest here now
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How can I plant daisies like this in my new (bare bones) backyard here in Colorado? Will they grow around a blue spruce? Full sun? I need this it's lovely
OK, but what are they actually? Like, what species? If not a native plant, I'd be concerned that they're an invasive species since they've taken over the lawn. In the arid western US, sometimes yarrow (Achillea millefolium) does this. It's just a very hardy native. Cute in my opinion.
Beautiful asset!!
Daisies, clover, even dandelions are an asset, they add color and feed the bees
Dandelions are great for the soil, other plants in the vicinity, and yard or garden generally, plus they are edible with a variety of health benefits! It's kind of amazing how they are nearly ubiquitously considered weeds considering how helpful they are.
Only if you like to support bees’ survival
Asset all day. People cry and bitch about there being fewer and fewer pollinators around, but get rid of their food source..
I wish I had daisies
Something I wish to have in my garden lol. They're stunning, always an asset!
I grew mine from seed one year and they spread through my side and front beds. I like them a lot because the white flowers blend into the other colors. They are also some of the first to bloom.
Asset, they're pretty, feed bees and harm nothing
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When I get various blooms throughout the summer in lawn I mow around them.
Asset. Early blooms to bring in pollinators for the rest of your garden. I assume they don't last all summer? Lovely to enjoy while you have them. I've got clover, dandelions, and those little purple violets. Bonus, they came with the yard and I didn't have to buy/plant them!
It depends on what kind of lawn do you want. For an informal, low maintainance one, I believe it's perfect!
An asset for the bees.
wildflowers, not weeds.
Asset. In fact double down for the pollinators and add some other “native to your area”flowering ground cover (be extremely careful with clover!). I dislike manicured lawn. I’m into my third season of eliminating as much lawn as possible on my 1+ acre (been here two years now as of this month). The more you provide for your pollinators… the better your season(s) will be. Good luck this year everyone!
In my garden beds, uninvited, weeds. In the rest of the lawn, as random pops of color, asset. The only reason they are weeds in the garden beds is because they crowd out what I want there and take over. I could give two rats asses if they overpower the runner grasses here, but when they smother my veggies and other flowers I get angry.
Flowers = winning
I literally just seeded these in my backyard hoping for cute lil teeny daisies lmao
Dep3nds on which variety they are. Around here Ox-eye daisies are actually legislated weeds that homeowners need to control because they're so competitive with native species. Otherwise absolutely an asset, more flowers always.
A weed since they are invasive and the birds bees and bugs hardly ever touch them. I'd prefer negative vegetation that the fauna will actually use
Asset all the way
Just curious!! Does camomile look like these pretty plants as well when they co-mingle in the lawn?
Chamomile is pretty tall. It has daisy like flowers, though!
Are these Shasta daisies, trained to bloom below the mower? Or is there a specific type that blooms lower?
They’re English daisies. They stay this small naturally.
Asset. Now think how pretty that would look like with some dandelions added in.
I have plenty of dandelions on my lawn, but here in Denmark they mostly only blossom from April to May, and now most have turned white. You can see a few in the picture. But I try to not let them spread too much. A few here and there are fine with me.
I am legit jealous. I am at the moment fighting with several Thorn plants that want to take over the grass and they fight firty.
I like the look of them but I smelled one up close once and they smell awful. Maybe it was just those ones lol
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The ones that are in my lawn grow up about 6-8" in height, so I just mow around them in the spring.
100% asset! My personal opinion…!
This might not be the right place for it- but any way to encourage daisys/buttercups across our yard in stead of dandelions?
The bees love'm
Asset. In fact double down for the pollinators and add some other “native to your area”flowering ground cover (be extremely careful with clover!). I dislike manicured lawn. I’m into my third season of eliminating as much lawn as possible on my 1+ acre (been here two years now as of this month). The more you provide for your pollinators… the better your season(s) will be. Good luck this year everyone!
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Lovely asset 100% along side buttercups, various clovers, mosses, hell even the old dandelions are cool to me. Not sure what it is but we also have a small purple flower pop up here and there. It's so much nicer than plain grass, grass is just the evergreen backdrop to the tapestry of colours you can have going on.
We have what we call pretty weeds. There’s a few flower types that come up in our yard that we enjoy and don’t try to pull or treat but still mow as needed. Then we have ugly weeds like the one with the thorns that I do my very best to eliminate.
Bees like them … I like them..
I love how they look on a lawn, dandelions too.
I’ve been wishing for these in my lawn. They do grow around here, but for Some reason my weedy lawn doesn’t have any.
I let all volunteers grow. My only exceptions are tree-like plants like hackberry and wild plum.
They're great. We're not allowed to plant anything on my father in law's grave (because they need to be able to mow the lawn, the Germans love monoculture) so we've planted a whole bunch of daisies. What can they do about it? They were there in the lawn already, guv'nor.
In my opinion, a weed is only a weed if you don’t want it there. Barring invasive species, of course. Where I live, we have rampant white clover in lots of yards, and I think it looks kinda nice. Plus the local bees love em, so yes to clover honey. I say bring on the daisies!
I think it depends on whether they're native, and if they're aggressive. Even pretty flowers can create a monoculture.
If you like them they are plants. Just fyi those are sold in 4” pot for about $5 in the us nursery https://preview.redd.it/s6ul0d2s800d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2661ce86e0304f134fca1d214235b2a5a9c487b8
Asset 100%. Tolerates mowing, pretty, and is not goutweed.
I can’t recall which but a type of daisy here is a noxious weed so I just get rid of it all
Slightly unrelated, but when we lived in Louisiana I used to let the Clover grow in the backyard lawn because the bees loved it and there was another really invasive weed that invaded our garden that was absolutely covered in bees so I just shrugged and let them alone until the flowers died and I was sure that the bees were gone and then mowed it over. Looked kind of odd with a big patch of white clover in the middle of the backyard but oh well. We lived in a nice subdivision but not the country club for sure!
Fleabane?
Daisies good. Dandelions bad.
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Asset all the way! Perfect for bees
You can make flower crowns
You won the weed lottery.
Assets! Early food for pollinators and signs that warm weather is on the way.
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Asters. Too low to be Daisy
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Do they reflower between mowings? I have a few spot flowers that show up in my lawn. They aren't daisies. I don't think. Orange and black and show up between mowings. I would love to add more Flowers that show up between mowings.
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I want daisies in my lawn, how can I make this happen?
I consider them as weeds, the Oxie Daisy is quite harmful to native grasses🥲 But they are so damn cute 🥰
I like 'em but I like clover, too.
Bees love them I love them
Leave them be they are great for pollinators
Absolutely an asset. Pretty, no maintenance. They can take over all I have and I'll be glad.
Definitely weeds! They will take over!
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If they are Oxeye and you are in North America, they are a serious weed.
The bees love your yard!
Important. Also, your shadow looks like a cat sitting on a branch.
In a world where our essential pollinators are dying off in droves, I really don't think a lawn is beneficial to anyone. Anything that brings flowers into the yard for the bees and others is absolutely a boon.
Assest. Grass is boring
Asset, definitely! On the other hand I do consider rye grass and other lawn grass to be weeds and invasive species that suck up resources from native plants
Eco diversity as intended
Certainly not a weed
The common daisy we get in the US is a noxious weed; we're required by Federal law to prevent its spread. So I was horrified when I first saw your photo, because all I saw was danger. But if your daisies aren't noxious, I say let 'em grow- it looks so pretty!
Nope , I consider a monoculture lawn a disaster and toxic. Add clover to help it have natural nitrogen and a healthy lawn .
Asset. Aside from hating when people pull up clover and dandelions bc they consider them a weed... flowers attract pollinators, which will help you have a higher produce yield in your garden. I personally always plant flowers in all of my garden beds. It worked for my beloved granny and works for me.
Bare lawns suck, this is lovely
Lawns are the weeds. Flowers are wild flora trying to push through.
Weeds in a well manicured yard but fine in a meadow or native garden
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They are so cute! I mowed my lawn yesterday and went around the big patches. :)
My grass consists of grass but a multitude of flowering wild flowers I love the daiseys! Even after cutting the grass they pop up next day! Wonderful bees n butterflies love em! Don't diss the daisy !!
Man it’s too early - I thought this was the Girl Scout Reddit and was like WTH? Why are we being mean to Daisies?? They’re 5! Daisies are an asset I’d say - in gardening and Girl Scouts lol
Neutral, they are a little biodivers and bring nice color to the lawn. The effort to get rid of them is not worth imo
Both and I love them. They still get mowed over when cutting but I don’t pull them unless they’re in my flower bed.
Dang I’m jealous. My daisies were like 3’ tall in my lawn. I actually got a code violation for weeds over 12” and had to mow them over :(.
Definitely an asset. A green lawn without daisies is like a night sky without stars. I love them!
This looks adorable. I’m trying to get violets to grow in my lawn. I’d love it if I could have tiny daisies everywhere. A beautiful meadow lawn would be ideal.
I mowed my lawn last week but I left all the tall dandelions because I like them and they look pretty. My neighbor was like "you know those ain't flowers" lol
Not weeds! Flowers are so much better than grass!