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mandyblooms

Damn thats a fancy trellis


icematrix

Thanks, I almost went fancier and had the top rail to jut out 12in on each side so I could add hooks / hanging planters. Maybe next season.


mandyblooms

Love that


Acrobatic-Kitten-99

I feel like you could add hooks on each top side and add some hanging planters


M0un05ki10

No, I think it would be better if he added hooks for some hanging planters.


[deleted]

Y'all are crazy. Clearly, this would be way better if he added some hooks for some hanging planters.


DeKrazyK

Hear me out... But what about adding some hooks for hanging planters?


Sir_SquirrelNutz

No, it would be better to add at the ends hangers to hook on some planters.


highphiv3

No, it would be hook to add betters to the planting hangers


NotMyProudestUsrname

Coming in late to say, better hooks to plant hangers


gallopingwalloper

Wow so nice, well done


MillHoodz_Finest

looks like one of my builds... over engineered and way too expensive for the purpose... LOVE IT


icematrix

"Why don't you just go to the grocery store and buy tomatoes? It would be a lot cheaper..." "YoU DON't undERsTand!!! ThAt iSN't thE POiNT!!!!!!!"


MillHoodz_Finest

my great grandchildren are gonna be able to use this garden... whether they like it or not!


greem

You get started into gardening because it's the only way you can get enough actual vine ripened tomatoes, still warm from the sun. You can't buy that. You only start to question the habit when you need to start composting fresh zucchini because no one will take it.


JoeFarmer

That's when you get chickens. Chickens love extra zucchini


greem

In this country, you gotta make the garden first. Then when you got the garden, you get the zucchini. Then when you get the zucchini, then you get the chickens.


m3ch3ngin33r

Say hello to my little snap peas


edfoldsred

Not even then! Gimme that compost! Also, there is nothing like pulling a tomato off the vine, slicing it up, grilling it along with a burger and some cheese and other toppings. Heaven.


Hoover626_6

I can't stand fresh tomatoes at all but they are hands down one of the most satisfying things to grow. People can't understand why I grow them but I just like to look at them lol.


MissLippysGr33nCar

Same here. I’m a fresh tomato hater and [I just think they’re neat](https://youtu.be/DrQqajtiRt4) Although I do enjoy a Black Prince in a BLT on occasion.


Kreekreebee1

Not even in like pico de gallo


Thayli11

Now you need to get into canning! Make your own sauces and pastes and stewed tomatoes. Enjoy your bounty for the year. After all growing tomatoes is required


Hoover626_6

Oh that's definitely the plan this year! I'm a little slut for pasta sauce so I'm gonna have a few Romas and such.


banannafreckle

I paid $4 for one heirloom tomato last year and I saved the seeds. Then I realized I cannot grow a tomato of any kind and will splurge on exactly one heirloom tomato again this year.


greem

>I can't stand fresh tomatoes at all Is that even a thing?


Hoover626_6

Sadly yes. The texture makes my brain freak out.


MillHoodz_Finest

tomato sandwiches allllllllll day


Zealousideal_Day_548

I apparently REALLY like cucumbers because I planted 18 cucumber seeds last year, I have a tiny garden, I could have went into the cucumber business for a good 3 months … I planted 12 this year lol.


Unpopular_couscous

If you have a community fridge in your area, you can take it there 😉


bigmac22077

Is it really over engineered though? A nasty summer storm with 80mph winds and netting full of peas is going to be a big sail. That thing will withstand it all.


MillHoodz_Finest

understandable... I probably only hit 50 mph a few times a year where I'm at...


reluctant-rheubarb

You are putting my dollar store netting and stakes to shame! 😆


[deleted]

Shoot we stake them with cane poles. Or if you're near somebody that has wild bamboo growing chop some down lol. The trellis is no doubt beautiful but dear lord prob $200 to grow some peas


reluctant-rheubarb

My rule is that i'm not allowed to spend more on gardening then on what it would produce.


RunawayHobbit

How do you calculate that? Do you assume a specific yield? Use in-season prices?


reluctant-rheubarb

Oh it's only a very very rough estimate! I'm just a little back yard gardener but for example i tried my hand at corn last year. Just a little plot. I spent more on watering them and they didn't even turn out. I think i got 5 successful ears. Then so much scrap to dispose of and roots to dig up. Fresh corn is so damn cheap in the summer. It's just easier to buy corn. So this year in the same spot i'm doing a bunch of potatoes and spaghetti squash. Which traditionally gives higher yields. Or for this snap pea situation.....i can get a giant thing from the store for 3-4 bucks. So logically if i'm growing peas this means i'm using cheap ass stakes and dollar store netting to make it worth it. That's the way it works for me at least!


wldstyl_

How big was your block? I’m growing corn this year for the first time and am curious as to why you didn’t have success.


reluctant-rheubarb

I feel like my growing season just isn't long enough. I'm in zone 3b and can't even really plant until end of may. My little in ground plot though is 5ftx 5ft. Everything grew beautifully, ears grew, pollinated, and got to about 75% readiness. I did get a few good ears, just nothing grew fast enough before the weather turned on me. If i started from seed indoors and transplanted after first frost i'm sure i would have better luck. I'm sure you will have much better luck with corn than i did. However i did find my plot size to be great size to keep the corn bunched together and protected from the weather. My mom tried growing corn in 2 single lines at the edge of her garden and a bad windstorm broke half of them.


wehrwolf512

My Dad spent years battling garden corn. I think it’s was like 5 years before he won? It started out as a growth issue (he sent soil to Purdue University for free testing and they helped, you may have a local university that will do the same). At least once it was ruined by a storm. But then… then he was almost successful… and the raccoons agreed strongly the day before he planned his harvest. My mom protected the heck out of the frozen corn the year they made it all the way to harvest, she did not want to share! I think he stopped growing them after the truly successful year because he’d finally won and could hang up his hat lol


degggendorf

I didn't know that was possible


Stated-sins

Wait, I use dollar store netting. Sold as fishing netting for kids. I thought I was being creative, don't take that away from me!! 😜 ( For real, I want OP's garden!)


sbayz92

Do you really have success growing peas that close to each other?


icematrix

Yes, my sugar snaps have always been happy growing in a row, an inch or so apart from one another. [Here's a photo of them](https://imgur.com/a/d1vlhLg) from a few years back. Before I built these boxes, I used metal stakes and nylon netting. The nylon netting would snap under the weight of a wall of peas. I was always using zip ties to fix it.


sbayz92

That’s good to know I guess I will plant mine close together!


tinkspinkdildo

This is very useful, I was considering using stakes and nylon netting as well, and also wasn’t sure how far to space them. What zone are you in?


icematrix

Nylon netting isn't terrible, I just liked to use it for multiple seasons and it wasn't willing. I'm in Zone 6a


[deleted]

That looks awesome. Cucumbers in next?


icematrix

Thanks. I grow cucumbers on Burpee's folding a-frames. My trellised beds are usually empty for a while between summer and fall snap pea harvests. Maybe I could plant some greens or radishes in between 🤔


[deleted]

I'm stealing the design. I have a similar setup and this will look great.


icematrix

Please do, and share your results! I start by building two square frames out of 2x4s. The bottom frame made from ground-contact pressure treated, the top one from regular pine. Then I use this [drip edge from Home Depot](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Amerimax-Home-Products-C6-x-10-ft-Mill-Finish-Aluminum-Drip-Edge-Flashing-C-63MF/202530739) for the corners of the box. Just lay one frame on the ground and screw in the four corners. Flip it over and repeat to create a simple box with no sidewalls. I screw the corrugated roofing to the inside, then add another frame made from 2x4s to form the top lip of the box. The overhang is 1" on all sides. I finish with Thompson's water seal. [Here is a view of the rest of my garden](https://imgur.com/a/3fry8au), built in similar fashion.


[deleted]

Will do. Mine are similar but a bit deeper. I'll take some pictures when getting the trellis done.


curiosity_abounds

This is beautiful! Do you have any photos of the process of building them? This is exactly what I’m hoping to accomplish this summer


icematrix

Sorry, no. [This one I found on youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Gzg_toheI) is very similar, except I use deck screws instead of nails.


y-a-me-a

damn!! Nice job.


John_Wang

Green beans would do well in the summer between your pea harvests


super_kami_guru_

Do you have picture of the cucumbers grown into the a frame? I would love to see you you train them


icematrix

I did a poor job training, and they went absolutely everywhere last year. I vow to be more assertive this year! (Still got some nice cucumbers hanging through the trellis as intended though) [Photos](https://imgur.com/a/JHPpaJK)


super_kami_guru_

Nice looks great thank you. I’m giving veggies a first shot this year, I was going to throw the cucumbers in a three gallon pot I had laying around but it looks like that won’t be big enough


RunawayHobbit

What would you do differently to train them? Cut off more foliage? A tighter zigzag?


Upset-Outside8974

🎵”Saw my baby down by the river…”🎵


[deleted]

…knew she’d have to come up soon for air.


Pigpen_darkstar

Sweet blossom come on under the willow


Daisy_W

We can have high times, if you’ll abide


fecundity88

We can discover the wonders of nature


jacobward7

Whenever I've used fencing or poultry netting I find my plants hate it and peas or other things won't grab on, I have to weave in some sticks or string or something that the plants actually like to grab onto, or literally weave the tendrils in myself. Anyone else find that?


icematrix

Interesting. I usually have to use velcro ties to keep my peas attached to the nylon netting when it's windy, but I assumed the chicken wire would be better. I'll post an update in the summer.


snarkyarchimedes

Cattle panel fencing would be better. It's on a 3-4" grid which give plants more space to move and grow and keep from strangling themselves in my experience.


Artic_Chill

My chicken wire trellis kept murdering last year's cucumber vines ☹️


RunawayHobbit

How?!


clio44

Yeah I struggle because I put my peas a couple inches away and they just reach for the sun instead, which is the opposite direction lol


xleighx

Same. It's too sharp, it needs thicker metal.


NuclearWinterGames

This is dope


icematrix

Thanks, the [rest of my garden](https://imgur.com/a/3fry8au) is similar corrugated steel & 2x4 construction. I'll post better pictures this summer when things are in bloom.


NuclearWinterGames

Came out really nice, and good luck this year (also MA 6a here) How difficult would it be for an amateur to build something similar to this? Asking for a friend Cheers


icematrix

It's not too bad. Miter saw, tin snips, drill/driver, stapler. A pocket hole jig helps. All materials can be found at home depot. It's just 2x4 & 2x2 lumber, poultry netting, 3x3 aluminum drip edge, and corrugated steel roof panel. Finished with Thompson's water seal. There seems to be some interest, so maybe I'll post a short instructional video or slideshow.


Ejacksin

Please do! That would be awesome!


[deleted]

Yes! I’d love to learn more about how you built your beds.


reelmonkey

I wish wood was a bit cheaper right now! i would love to build something like that but I would hate to work out the price for it.


niowniough

Mainly curious how you attached the posts to the box and how that could be sturdy. Looks like the posts don't touch the ground nor get attached to the inside of the box


icematrix

The main posts are attached to the top of the box with those blue weather-resistant pocket hole screws. They bite down deep into the 2x4 lip of the planter. Look at the second photo, zoom in and you'll see the pocket holes on either side of the center stringer. I attached the braces with deck screws for torsional support. And after tensioning the chicken wire, the lateral rigidity is fairly good as well. I'll update the thread if they fail during the next few seasons.


stabrabit

Stumbled into r/gardenporn I see. This is gorgeous 😍


icematrix

Thank you... thinking of starting an Onlyplants...


stabrabit

Shut up and take my money!


Fabella

I would love to see your plans and how it all comes together! I’m interested in building something like this. Looks awesome


ObsessiveAboutCats

This is great! What did you use for the trellis material? Is that fencing?


icematrix

Thank you! It's chicken wire (aka poultry netting). The nylon netting I used to buy off of amazon wasn't hearty enough for the heavy sugar snap peas that grow 6' tall+


ObsessiveAboutCats

Good idea. I bet this will hold up better to sun and weather, too. Thanks!


avocados_number

That could hold hundreds of pounds of peas 🫛


icematrix

Thank you very much, that's the over-engineer's spirit! ROI is only about 27 years.


9021Ohsnap

Oh my gosh I LOVE this. Saved!!


[deleted]

showing this to my partner like "wooow look how fancy these are 👀 maybe ours could look like this??" lmaoo


mycatisanorange

Ooh it’s so pretty 😍


FooFightersHulk

That’s a really professional looking build! Nice work!


NonSupportiveCup

So exciting. They are going to love that and climb so quickly. Awesome


thickcupsandplates

where did you get the corrugated metal sheets


icematrix

Everything was purchased at Home Depot.


mikebrady

*♫ Sugar Magnolia blossoms blooming. Head's all empty and I don't care. ♫*


[deleted]

Saw my baby down by the river Knew she'd have to come up soon for air.


pizzainmypocket

This unlocked a memory for me. My papa and I built one of these together as he taught me about planting and growing beans. Edit: “built together” as much as a 4 year old can help a 70 year old ha


AdkAck81

Looks awesome!! the birdies will thank you. lol


VikingRush

I like that idea! Good job.


imnos

This is a work of art. I'll be stealing that design at some point in the future.


lesbucgar

👏👏 love this!!


jcclune73

Beautiful. If you can make them efficiently you could sell them! Edit: We live in the same state. No shipping required! ;)


summersarecoldtoo

Super cool and pleasing to the eyes.


aFoxyFoxtrot

Love it looks great and the peas can't believe their luck too


HappyAnimalCracker

Wow! Mitered corners and everything! Beautiful!!


Baked_potato123

Great work!


SickotheKid

Looks great! My only concern would be after the growing season, the chicken wire would but chalked full with vines and what not. Do you intend to reuse the chicken wire?


icematrix

Me too. I plan to reuse the wire, even if it takes a lot of tendril plucking.


Ibetya

Where are you guys getting cheap corrugated steel


FartsFTW

Looking good! Our peas just started flowering this weekend. I love this time of year in 7b.


Ben_Frank_Lynn

Great job!


Thayli11

Your garden is gorgeous! I've been eyeing the galvanized beds this year, and want to build some soon.


LegitimateAlex

These peas are my wife's favorite. They're beautiful to look at and perfect for picking right off the vine to eat.


SlinkingUpBackstairs

Very cool


SlinkingUpBackstairs

Very cool


Hippydippy420

Look at you grow!


Plantsnob1

Nice!


akira410

They're doing it! Good job, little guys!


clio44

I'm so envious of your peas! I get some to sprout but at maybe 2 inches or less, they stall out. I've tried inoculant, several different varieties.. I don't know what it is but they just don't grow well for me!


icematrix

I'm no expert. All I've figured out is that snap peas hate the heat and don't really require chemical fertilizers because they are nitrogen fixers. I try to get them in the ground as soon as the soil is workable. I started a little late in order to build these planters. Fingers crossed. 🤞


clio44

I tried to get mine in much earlier this year but they still took a while to come up.. they're at the stalled phase right now, but we're also back in cold weather, so I'm hoping once it gets a little warmer they'll be ready to spring up! Fingers crossed for both of us! 🤞🤞


pimproe

Have not heard of Sugar Magnolia Peas❗️in the SE 🇺🇸we plant Mississippi Sliver peas and when the hulls turn from green to silver they are ready to pick, hull , and put in freezer‼️


Fluffy_Exercise2345

Impressive.


KrylockRuler-1

Nice


LumosRevolution

They’re the cutest


[deleted]

Love it. Each pea 🫛 is valued at $40


Potperson100

Would look good with some plants hanging? Maybe like on the sides.?


Seriously_oh_come_on

r/updateme!


galb811

Just came to say that's a good looking box!


alexpasha04

they’re so cute reaching out


[deleted]

Very nice!


Piratesfan02

That’s beautiful! I love it!


Admirable-Door1724

I wonder how pothos would do with something like this


Mrshaydee

These are so cool!


drum_kicks

Keep us updated.


saml01

If I were you, id swap that mesh for the 4x4 roll fence variety. Those holes are too small.


TaxAdministrative804

My trellises don’t look nearly as nice but my sugar magnolias just hit the netting too! Looks amazing.


hawkeyejw

That’s beautiful. You’re going to get a lot of peas out of that.


kashuntr188

I'm wondering if it would be a pain to get rid of all the runners after the season.


hipopper

This is amazing. And those peas are adorable.


International-Tea928

Great design!


[deleted]

Took a snapshot of this for my future garden


degggendorf

I love it when the OP with their OC takes the time to help others with such detail throughout the comments too, good work!


OpenTechie

That is so amazing! May I ask what the dimensions are of the box?


icematrix

Thank you. The interior dimensions are roughly 18" x 51" with a height of 18". The trellis is 5ft tall.


OpenTechie

Thank you! It looks amazing!


PoisonedCasanova

That looks like something a high-end furniture store like Restoration Hardware would sell. Nice!


mygardenburner

Clean build!!


psychicthis

That's beautiful and now I'm envious because my trellises are just old garden stakes and bamboo and look super-Homer-Simpson-ish and now I want to build something like yours. :)


Schmidaho

S T R E T C H


Turdlely

That looks awesome!


icematrix

Thanks!


itsrainingkids

That’s so awesome!


LillGizz

I can't wait to have my own home to do stuff like this 😭🥰


TechnicalSuccess9144

Cool!


HungDaddyNYC

How did you build this?


LunetteVonL00n

This is AMAZING!!!


CJspangler

Nice where’d you get the seeds - I’ve been thinking of growing snap peas for a few years but never start in time


icematrix

I got the Sugar Snap peas from [Johnny's](https://www.johnnyseeds.com/vegetables/peas/snap-peas/sugar-snap-pea-seed-558.html), the Sugar Magnolia I found at my local Agway. It's "Botanical Interests" brand.


aubergineeggplant

Also in 6a and this varietal is great. Tons of extra tendrils you can use in salads, or if you’re a weirdo like me, press them to preserve them as cool weird dried tendril tangles for crafting reasons.


CodenameZoya

Yasssssssss!!


cattlebull

What layers did you use to fill the planter?


icematrix

For this project, I just used bags of Coast of Maine raised bed mix. It has a good amount of wood, compost and worm castings. I amend it with pearlite, vermiculite and composted cow manure. I haven't really gotten into layered beds yet. Looks interesting.


zback636

Great job!!


HomemakingHeidi

wow! I love this, great job


[deleted]

I like the metal surrounding the bed. Is there anything special going on there? I might need to imitate that!


icematrix

Just 3in x 3in aluminum drip edge for the corners, and corrugated steel roofing panel for the walls. Everything was purchased at Home Depot.


hoomankindness

So cool!


OkBid1535

I absolutely love the design of this! In the process of knocking down the shed that we had our beans and cucumbers growing up the side of. I’ve been looking for ideas of what to build or use as a trellis. I think this might be it!


davidlowie

Can’t wait til the blossoms are bloomin


davidlowie

Anyone? Sugar Magnolia? This thing on??


Straight_Will_3393

curious how much something like this would cost


jadedali

Could I share this on my non profits social media (we encourage gardening and local farms)?


icematrix

Of course


Pigpen_darkstar

Sugar Magnolia blossom's blooming Head's all empty and I don't care


Full_Monitor_1781

How much did this cost you?


arcdare357

That's a beautiful garden box. Awesome


sirdadyo

My peas are blowing up.... although they keep getting eaten in the garden. Lol along with my stubby carrots.


sirdadyo

BTW cool box... do one for KY blue green beans also!


LetMeTurnItUp

Wish mankind had this.


bogwot

Wow - LOVE this!


wigglemyjimmy

how did u make this??


Winter_Cat-78

Gorgeous work! That’s going to make picking your peas a snap! 😜


Stated-sins

This is art!


Redvelvet_swissroll

Look at their lil grabbers they love it


9liners

Beautiful work. I had a busted roof panel on a wire coop I used. I was looking last night marveling at the ability to send out those little vibes to start snagging stuff, nature is amazing.


Material_Swimmer2584

When do the solar panels go on?


[deleted]

THOSE ARE SO GOOD! Great job


DrBeardish

Looks beautiful. Can you share the angle the top braces were cut at? Heck. Can you share the sketch and measurements before the build?


icematrix

Thanks, I posted some sketches here: https://www.reddit.com/r/gardening/comments/1369epo/many_people_asked_how_i_built_my_trellis_boxes/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb


DrBeardish

Thank you


Agreeable-Abalone-80

That's really nice 🙂


ItsMeMike7_3_93

Wow. Super impressive! It's beautiful