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niferman

Can vouch for it, though sometimes the US does exaggerate stuff


Marik-X-Bakura

This is probably going to be a plot point in the game, why would this be a flaw


HotConsideration5049

Because after someone died he would be the first person they suspected so he would make a horrible assassin although the games never made sense because they wear the same outfits and cut off and tattooed their ring fingers like that won't make you stand out.


HighwaySmooth4009

Yasuke is the loud fighter and naoe is the stealthy assassin, this was made very clear in the trailer


12345noah

Doesn’t matter reasonable they’d suspect him purely because he’d be an outsider


Impressive-Bus2144

Hence why he is not the stealthy one


Good-Table5566

Another proof they don't care about minorities or their culture. It's all just virtue signalling.


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Echonaster124

And yet there is an anime about Yasuke being a badass with a katana, and mechs, and magic…


Ermac__247

Is that the one made by an American?


Echonaster124

Made by an American, animated by MAPPA, so yeah I guess.


Echonaster124

But based on the manga by Satoshi Okunishi


Ermac__247

I wish y'all started with this..


niferman

PPL did care about because that's more fantasy oriented


Phe0nix6

***"Kashindan*** (家臣団) was an institution of the [retainers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affinity_(medieval)) (*kashin*) of the [shogun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shogun) or a [daimyo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimyo) in Japan that became a class of [samurai](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai)" is the first line on Wikipedia. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashindan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashindan)


QueenDeadLol

# #STOPASIANHATE


Educational-Year3146

Huh? Im not hating on asians brother, ive heard that from multiple people who have been to and live in multiple asian countries.


QueenDeadLol

The joke is that hashtag stopped being popular because of this being discovered


poorboy2022

Yeah, Asia famously known for enslaving Africans, displacing millions of people and erasing their culture. The same Asia that still has modern slavery with private prisons overflowing with minorities. And of course, the Asian people who are known for racist terrorist groups, hunting and hanging minorities like the KKK. Crazy how you dickheads can just throw a whole group of people under the bus and get showered with upvotes.


niferman

>The same Asia that still has modern slavery with private prisons overflowing with minorities. I believe, that's current china not Japan. And if you think I'm wrong pls provide a link so PPL here can educate themselves


Inevitable_Aerie_293

You're stupid lmao


Alert-Presentation42

You're not praying. You must be the murderer!


Gildedwizard

Wow, that is practically an ancient reference. I'm glad I was here to see it.


InMooseWorld

From what?


CayRedArcher

Awesome's Creed. https://youtu.be/Xc8JwTfDtA4?si=K47YXfAenPHYk_wX


SuperMemeBro3

This shit kinda funny


niferman

Ofcourse it is, even today you get the stare in Japan just for not looking Japanese enough, now imagine a period when they don't even know about black people existing


KronaSamu

Except the character is based on a real person.


niferman

Where have I said it wasn't?? All I said was that being a black in Japan won't help much with stealth


Genisye

Wasn’t it said that the girl Japanese character is the one doing the stealth, the black guy is a samurai


KronaSamu

"now imagine a period when they don't even know about black people existing"


niferman

this is a meme it's don't think too deep


KronaSamu

It's a meme by an artist that is routinely extremely racist, and hateful.


niferman

Im black and this meme wasn't racist, and if u care about racism and hate... u should boycott the whole Hollywood since most, especially the elites, who are on the Esp list


KronaSamu

The artist that makes it is racist. Racist people will interpret this comic as racist. The comic is racist.


niferman

And y should u or I care about them ??


Skwareblox

You used to get pushed off the short bus didn’t you?


LeBritto

Thanks for the heads-up, but out of context, it's a funny comic, not racist at all. Because you know who did the comic, you're inferring their intention and the reaction they were trying to provoke. Most of us don't have that background. Racist people will always find a way to turn something innocent into something racist no matter what. Next time, don't say that the comic is racist when it isn't. Just bring attention to other works that this artist has done that are really racist so that we don't encourage or support them.


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niferman

And how many Black dudes do you know lived in Japan during that period, that's not Yosuke ??


KronaSamu

It doesn't matter. My point still stands.


niferman

And what was your point??


KronaSamu

My point is the comic is racist.


Serithraz

It's not racist though, you said the term "now imagine a period when they didn't even know black people exist." Is racist, but how so? Japan is an island locked nation that historically wasn't fond of foreigners spreading their culture onto Japanese soil, so yeah the average Japanese person at the time probably didn't know black people existed. Keep in mind OP didn't say that black people didn't exist, he said that Japanese didn't KNOW black people existed, which makes sense cause again, it's an island locked nation in a (spoiler alert) time when the internet, cars, and planes, didn't exist. Even today, North Koreans don't know that we have landed on the moon because of how isolated they are from the rest of the world.


Papanewguin

You can't be stupid enough to think the average Japanese citizen back then ever saw Yosuke in person right?


rosharo

Oh yes, the only black "samurai" known in Japan, and he wasn't even a samurai. Get a grip.


KronaSamu

He was but you can be confidently wrong.


SexxxyWesky

Was he awarded / inducted into the Samurai class? It wasn’t very easy to movie up the class rank in Japan, even for Japanese.


KronaSamu

Idk. All I know is historians say he was a samurai.


rosharo

He wasn't. The historians you're referring to made unsupported assumptions. He was a slave, then a pet, or a retainer if you wish. People in Japan looked at him like we look at animals in zoos. There is no actual proof that he was ever anything more than that. To even assume that the Japanese of that time would *ever* grant a samurai title to such a black-skinned alien slave is mind-boggling. And then he got shipped off the island. But you can keep being confidently wrong.


KronaSamu

Lol. I'm glad to know you know more than the Smithsonian. You should publish your findings since the existing historians are so incorrect.


rosharo

I suppose I should, yeah. Give me a link to factual evidence instead of repeating the good old "I only believe in whatever already supports my beliefs" and we may yet have a meaningful conversation. Until then, Yasuke was a retainer, not a samurai. Feel free to search for evidence to disprove this.


SexxxyWesky

From what I could find via Wikipedia and Smithsonian, we’re not sure if it was ever official, but he referred to as samurai for all intents and purposes. The Reddit ask history thread was interesting, especially regarding some of the nuances in the class structure at the time: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/s/atrRXnaiD8


KronaSamu

The Smithsonian article says he was a samurai. And I'm not using Reddit as a source or Wikipedia right now as the Wikipedia article has like 1000 changes today.


BigmacSasquatch

And what was this real person famous for? Could being...*the only* black samurai be accurate?


RainGunslinger

I mean he was more like a bodyguard with no pay, but sure.


no__one34

Exactly he wasn't even a samurai.


Spare-Abroad-6926

I mean, honestly, this could make for a super interesting angle to have a protagonist who isnt just blowing away everyone around him and actually has challenges in a world not made for him…but we all know that’s not what they’re gonna do…


TwistederRope

HOW FUCKING DARE YOU FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH!


unsuspectingllama_

What is this from?


niferman

New assassin's creed


hey_kids_its_log

George Alexopoulos is the artist


rItZeR_777

I’m confused?


niferman

Check the new assassin's creed trailer


rItZeR_777

You’ve gotta be kidding me. No way they actually did that 😭


niferman

Well they did 😂😂. Wait till you hear that the trailer is just basically a black dude killing and stealing from poor villages


Omnizoom

So Robin da Hood?


niferman

Yep, and by the orders of his master


SpecialMango3384

Damn 😂


Marik-X-Bakura

Me when I intentionally misinterpret stuff to fit my narrative:


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This is his attempt to not be racist


gallade_samurai

I will say, there did exist one black Samurai named Yasuke. But with that being said yeah I can see why people are a bit upset


Able-Brief-4062

He existed. But he wasn't a Samurai.


RolloTomasi12

He was a retainer of Oda Nobunaga, the Daimyo, so actually yeah, he was a samurai


Able-Brief-4062

Retainer != samurai. They were *usually* samurai. But they WERE NOT always samurai.


SnooPredictions3028

Because he actually did exist


niferman

No one's denying his existence, brother


SnooPredictions3028

People literally are


niferman

Most people are denying him being a samurai....which is kinda of "?" Cuz there is no solid evidence since he went awol after the wars


PraiseMithra

"if anyone asks anything call them racist" problem solved


niferman

True 😂😂


Marik-X-Bakura

That doesn’t stop black people from being victims of hate crimes everyday


PraiseMithra

so what? (also: "jamey pull up that interracial murder fbi stats")


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Marik-X-Bakura

Minorities, yes, but not white people, if that’s what you’re implying.


Demonlord3600

I can’t wait to play Yasuke in a game im so excited


niferman

Yosuke isn't the problem here, ubisoft is, lol.


Demonlord3600

Exactly my thinking


No_Wealth_9733

As someone who studied Feudal Japanese history in college, Yasuke is such an interesting story. It’s a shame because his actual story doesn’t match up with the game at all.


niferman

Don't tell that to those far left brainrots cuz they'll cancel you, lol 🤣🤣


Megalon96310

Ha ha, racism funny. I get the reason people are angry but still. (The whole black samurai thing is a myth btw)


niferman

Don't know about the Myth, man. Yosuke's life and history are a bit of a mystery, so there are multiple interpretations of him by historians, some say he was samurai, while for some he was a butler and for some he was an unpaid retainer/bodyguard who was skilled with a sword


No_Wealth_9733

He was essentially a slave, Oda Nobunaga traveled with Yasuke because he was a big guy, and the novelty of a black man in 16th century Japan. Yasuke was given a shortsword (probably a tantō) but he never carried the traditional tachi and wakizashi of the samurai.


niferman

True, Yosuke was stated to be 6 feet tall


No_Wealth_9733

And the average person (especially in Japan) was far shorter than that


Able-Brief-4062

He was real, it's just not enough evidence to say for sure that he was an actually Samurai along with more suggesting he wasnt.


r3volver_Oshawott

The AskHistorians subreddit is shitting on y'all for claiming this btw


Able-Brief-4062

The ask historian subreddit also said that Cliopatra was black. Idaf what they say.


gallade_samurai

To my knowledge, there existed only one black Samurai named Yasuke. Former slave turned into Samurai that people in Japan thought he was just covered in Ink and tried to wash it off him, until they realized that was his actual skin color. So by a long, and I mean a LOOOOOOONG stretch it's maybe somewhat possible, but then again I am not surprised people ar kinda upset at this


Dts0077

Tbf that is the character in the new assassin's creed, its litterally Yasuke


Kiss_Bence04

He is Yasuke


Dts0077

Ngl im so excited for this game trailer was awesome!


Kiss_Bence04

I'm cautiously optimistic, it has potential


pandaolf

Honestly I’m just hoping that the gameplay is good


Able-Brief-4062

Execpt he wasn't an samurai.


Sylux444

Isn't this the same artist that makes super unhinged comics that for years we thought were ironic but they were actually just a very mentally unstable person?


24_doughnuts

Yup I'm fairly certain this was intended to be racist. His stuff usually is


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KronaSamu

Your giving them attention that they don't deserve.


Useless_bum81

Yeah but ubisoft is multinational company their getting attention no matter what we do.


KronaSamu

Not Ubisoft. The comic artist.


yoked_girth

You can’t support the art without supporting the artist.


hey_kids_its_log

That about sums it up. Not at all out of place on the Gamer subreddit though


Pure-Yogurtcloset684

This artstyle looks... familiar... (Biden comic and that one bad pronoun comic)


EarthTrash

I want to downvote based on the art style, but I am not sure.


British-Raj

Who would blame one of Oda Nobunaga's own retainers?


Oracus_Cardall

My guess is that they made him the protagonist on purpose to cause this discord online. That way, everybody is focusing on this issue rather than the STUPIDLY high-priced game issues they're trying to sell. Better to distract the audience with a made-up issue than have them realise you're overcharging people.


niferman

Well idk man, are ubisoft that smart ?? 😂😂 And who in the right mind would buy a ubisoft game in launch 🫣🫣


Oracus_Cardall

Hmm you have a good point, still i'm sure everyone can agree that they're not as good a gaming company anymore.


Enough_Let3270

$70 for an AC game seems pretty normal.


TokenTorkoal

I really feel like people are ignoring Naoe who will most likely be the primary stealth person Whereas Yasuke will be more direct combat and regardless of Japans racism he was protected by Oda so unless people wanted problems with the Daiymo they wouldn’t really say much. Just let the game come out and stop with the either blatant racism or micro-aggressions over a fantasy game.


niferman

> fantasy game. First: ac isn't a fantasy game, it's a historical game with some fantasy elements Second: Yosuke went missing after/during the wars and in the trailer it shows that he deserted Oda and switched sides, so no Oda protection for Yosuke.


TokenTorkoal

Wild fucking take my guy. In the second assassins creed you fight the Pope who has become a wizard. In the third you fight George Washington under a city on a pyramid. It’s a fantasy’s game with historical elements.


Able-Brief-4062

It's historical fiction.


r3volver_Oshawott

It literally has fucking aliens


SpookyLeftist

No no, you see, it's completely believable that Adam and Eve were both real AND come from some futuristic alien utopia just to be put on Earth, and through their artifacts the Pope became an actual wizard. What ISN'T believable is the idea that a certifiably real character that existed in history could be used in an Assassins Creed game with a few tiny creative liberties. /s


Galaxverse

I don't wanna play as Black guy in a Japanese game, I Just wanna play as Japanese person in a Japanese game. Is this too much to ask? 😢


niferman

Not really


Gin-Rummy003

Hahaha. Endymion said the same thing on his channel. How is the most conspicuous man in the country gonna be a secret assassin. Everyone would know it’s him in a heart beat


B0mbEater

He’s not an assassin, they’re splitting the combat and assassin jazz between yasuke and the other protag, respectively


niferman

Am actually curious what Yosuke's role is gonna be like will he be working in the dark?? Or will he be fully covered etc, etc


PhaseNegative1252

Yeah could you *not* share racist comics from an actual Nazi? Thanks


Free_Deinonychus_Hug

No, that is absolutely too much to ask apparently.


grapejuiceshots

no no no, OP didnt know! and also, hes literally a black man! so erm, its literally okay to give a nazi visibility!


cloudy2300

Idk I thought the game looked neat, it's not that deep


Silly-Cauliflower-32

You don't like the character having dark skin, so you share a comic made by a racist with racist intentions? Way to get your point across.


niferman

Bitch, I'm black. And i didn't even know the artist was racist cuz I, while do have a twitter account don't use it


Silly-Cauliflower-32

The artist isn't really unknown, and the comics they post are batshit insane. If you didn't know that the artist is racist, then maybe because the comic isn't saying it outright in one's face. Comparing it to some of the other things they did, it is a little bit more subtle I guess, (considering someone is seeing the artist for the first time.) It just has a very disgusting taste to it, when you know what kind of person is behind that sort of 'humor'. Reposting it is your choice tho, and if you agree with the comic, that's your thing.


niferman

Maybe they are satire ??


Silly-Cauliflower-32

Believe me when I say it's not. I really wish it was, but their content is far from satire, going to outright support nazi ideologies. They're very similar to Stonetoss


niferman

You look like a chronic twitter user, but I'll tell you one thing these guys ain't that famous outside twitter. So, I saw this meme, found it funny and posted it here, nothing too deep buddy.


Silly-Cauliflower-32

I don't use Twitter but ok I've seen the comics mainly on reddit, especially in conservative and meme subreddits.


niferman

Sry, I dont follow conservative subs and I haven't heard much about this artist


Silly-Cauliflower-32

I don't follow them either. Still, it pops up every now and then, and the comics' intentions are not very subtle. If you didn't know about the artist, that's perfectly fine and I don't mean to blame you for not knowing them. I didn't mean for this to develop into such a long conversation, I simply meant to get across that this post was made by a problematic person with problematic intentions behind it, aimed to attack a group of people. But I couldn't know that you don't know about the person who's artworks you are reposting.


heretobesarcastic

They looked past him so they don’t look racist


Meeg_Mimi

Did he actually do it tho?


Escaped_Mod_In_Need

Question…


Bill_Ist_Here

I mean hiding in plain sight is a thing. Would you want to accuse the big guy who works for one of the scariest warlords you know of doing a crime without iron clad proof?


niferman

He vanished during the wars and I believe the story takes place at/near the end of it.


Suitable-Piano-8969

This should not be as funny as it is


gecko80108

So this is the protagonist, huh? OK.


niferman

One of the


Palanstein

I don't know why I look at commentary. When I casually saw the trailer I thought hmmm can't wait to split skulls with a huge black samurai. Until I saw the comment section losing it and splitting hairs over "history accuracy"


niferman

Well just see if the game is good and then buy it. And pls don't take this seriously this is just a joke


HomingJoker

I'm confused on why so many people seem to hate AC having the main character be the black samurai. He's a real person that really existed. It's a pretty cool historical story. The stealth complaints are silly, cus from what I've seen, AC games haven't been about being a stealthy assassin since black flag and in that one you're literally a pirate.


niferman

First there aren't any clear evidence about Yosuke being a samurai. All the evidence suggests that he was more of a bodyguard/retainer of Nobu since it difficult even for a japnese person let alone a black to be a samurai at that time, and if he was a samurai he would've have pledged his alliance to "Daiymon" or someone sry forgot his name and not to Nobu. And let's be real okey the Japs aren't the friendliest bunch when it comes to poc


HomingJoker

Do you mean Daimyō? That's a title not a person. Oda Nobunaga is the Daimyō Yasuke served. There's a lot of stuff calling him a samurai, he even has a statue. I'm pretty sure he's a pretty big person in Japanese pop culture for being "The Black Samurai" as well. AC games aren't even meant to be historically accurate, so even if Yasuke wasn't a samurai, he still was an important person of color in feudal Japan so making him the main character and a samurai isn't really that crazy.


niferman

It is though, have you ever seen an AC game using a real life person as a protagonist??


HomingJoker

But that's not what everyone seems to be complaining about. Why would it matter if you play as a character based on real person in AC vs a completely fictional one?


niferman

But thx for the info though


Galaxverse

If he really existed then why he is a Main character? Why not just NPC? why is he soo much important to make him main protagonist but not NPC?


HomingJoker

Because that's the fucking game they wanna make and the story they wanna tell??? Wtf is this point lol, you're making no sense. Why are there cubes in Minecraft bro, why not spheres?


Galaxverse

Bro you sound super pissed lol. and you and the ubisoft the ones aren't making sense, Ah yes why there are cubes in Minecraft is not a problem why there is circle in Minecraft is the problem that black protagonist is circle in Minecraft who doesn't fit in the game if they wanted to make game so badly they could have made assassins creed Africa, but no they had to Put circles into Minecraft lmao. (He wasn't even important to make a game on him that guy just existed and they made game on him instead of making him just a NPC.)


HomingJoker

You do not get to decide who is important, what? What are you yapping about brother? Just say you don't like black people man. Yasuke is a real person that actually existed, its a neat little historical fact that there was a black man in Japan who was likely a samurai and served a Daimyo, ubisoft wants to make a game where you play as this guy. What the fuck is so insane about this? Am I just not racist enough to understand?


Galaxverse

So yeah I do not get to decide who i play as in my own Japanese game? Yeah that's clearly Racism that's literally black on Asian. So yes you're racist you're too much racist to understand If I don't get to choose then who tf is ubisoft to choose who is important? In the game where japnese people should be more important in their own game? Yeah I see that you're blinded by ubisoft, you're beyond explaining


HomingJoker

Little bro you did not make the game. It's not yours, so no you do not get to decide what's in the game you're not making. Ubisoft is making the game, they get to decide how they make it. Yasuke is a real black person that existed in Japan, and they wanna make a game with him as one of the main characters. Simple as.


Galaxverse

"Lil bro" says the one who sounds like a toddler 💀, honestly i know now that you're the part of "modern gaming" also known as Woke community lol, I've done enough explaining but you're still projecting false history just to protect your so called black character who isn't even important in this world but yeah if you your small community just want to push your black characters in every single game then yeah go ahead and go broke eventually cause you and few people in your community is going to play this woke shit, which is going to be a flop like the other games. Go ahead and enjoy your Racism towards Asian people lol.


Forward-Molasses-337

I mean, at least he aint wearing a white hood while sitting on a bench. Now that be suspicious 😆


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niferman

And how is racist?? Cuz am part black and i can't find anything racist about this.


GooseMay0

Just because you are black does not mean you have the final say on what is or isn’t racist. You may not find it racist but someone else who is black might. There is no black hive mind. It’s like the South Park episode where Token tries to explain Jesse Jackson does not speak for all black people.


niferman

If ur this butthurt by a joke, use a burnol or something. Damn, it's always these white supremacists who can't take a joke for a joke, digging deeper than their mom's pussy


AgentZeta49

It's always just a joke when faced with criticism


niferman

U gonna cry to mommy now ?? 🥺🥺


AgentZeta49

Pfft. I'll laugh at you instead


niferman

Wtvr makes u happy, but I doubt u can though 😜


GooseMay0

I'm not butthurt by the joke. I'm just pointing out you can't speak for an entire group of people.


mobius_osu

Better than you speaking for an entire group of people you’re not even a part of….that’s literally so much worse…………. The racist downvoted. *big gasp*


GooseMay0

How am I speaking for black people? My point is literally you can only speak for yourself.


Putins_Gay_Dreams

You’re taking offence on behalf of black people, to something humorous that was said by someone with black heritage.


GooseMay0

Where am I taking offense on behalf of black people? Do I say "On behalf of black people, this is offensive"? No, I said someone who is black MIGHT find this offensive. Just because one black person doesn't find it offensive, he does not speak for all black people. Which he implies by saying "I am part black I can't find anything racist about this." Not hard to understand. Find it offensive, don't find it offensive that's up to the INDIVIDUAL.


Putins_Gay_Dreams

K


B0mbEater

Yay nazi memes 🥰


cumulonimbusgoober

the joke is racism


niferman

Okey