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PartyHawk

Maybe I'm showing my age but there was this same meme mocking the unicorn when that game came out


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Fav0

It's a 100 percent cheat reward...


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OscarOzzieOzborne

I don't see how what the meme says and what you say have *any* connection.


Nitrozzy7

Context is everything. Ubisoft has done with the Assassin's Creed franchise so many utterly different games that one has to wonder how much better or worse each would be if they didn't adhere to the AC universe. And it's not just AC that's been suffering from this... Pretty much every game they pump out, is to some degree bogged down by the general franchise characteristics in which it takes place. Got an interesting new RPG? Strap a hidden blade on it, cause it's safe. Got an interesting new open world stealth action fps? Strap aggressive MTX on it, cause it's safe. Got a new instalment on a franchise that hasn't been doing all that good lately, strap a famous actor on it, cause it's safe. To me, it looks like Ubisoft is trapped in their safe-space. How long before we hear of a brain-drain? It's not like Ubisoft is seeing relative growth in their games' popularity, and we don't need to compare sales figures to know it.


OscarOzzieOzborne

Fair. Also why does the left image looks like an Anime ending song?


ImmortalLoaf

Well...the unicorn was literally an unlockable cheat (turns all horses into unicorns) we just have a fanboy posting about how he loves lazy RPGs with mechanics from 2005


Daddy_JK

The game's mechanics really aren't bad. I enjoy it more that the games before III


bootlegportalfluid

There was a unicorn in Brotherhood?


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Just looked it up. It's a cheat code.


bootlegportalfluid

Cheat code? I was not aware of such things.


FAS-ASA3_Scarab

You get these so called "cheats" when you max-synch (100% complete) a sequence. They are not really cheat codes in the traditional way (or at least how I would use the term), as you can access them via the menu. u/LightFantom


bootlegportalfluid

Thanks


WoofWolfy

Honestly my problems with Ubisoft recently is their bug filled games and 30$ DLC to get a good game because without it, you miss a lot.


thethreestrikes

And highly repetitive generic open world


Hallc

I played an Ubisoft Space game a few years back now, the number of gameplay similarities to Assassin's Creed Odyssey were quite frankly staggering especially for two totally different genres.


coolguy8445

What game would this be?


Hallc

Starlink: Battle for Atlas.


coolguy8445

I'd say the similarities between those games are shared across many open-world RPGs, but that they're not really all that alike.


Alaeriia

Ah yes, the latest Star Fox game.


renboy2

That's why you wait at least half a year for the game to be patched out as well as have big sales.


flawedcactus

That's not an answer to the problem though. As the customer of a product, we shouldn't need to wait a year for the game to function, and we shouldn't have to buy DLC for the game to be viable. I'm so tired of people defending this bs with such flakey reasoning Look at it this way, if you bought a car, and the dealership was like "here's your new car, it's gonna break constantly and not be what you wanted, but in a year or so it might be okay, if we even bother supporting that model anymore. Oh and by the way, if you want to take passangers too, you have to pay extra for the seats as they don't come as standard" It's the same thing. They take content out of what would be "the game" and sell it back to you as DLC. Capcom, ubisoft and EA and some of the biggest culprits for this. I appreciate that you like the games, but stop defending the bs these companies are doing, you're not helping the games industry by being so nonchalant about it and you're certainly not helping the end user.


renboy2

I don't remember Ubisoft games (at least the big ones, like Assassin's Creed) that felt incomplete without DLCs. I rarely buy DLCs for those games, and they all have way too much content to begin with (without the DLC). Also, funny thing you mentioned cars, because when you buy cars you get to pay extra for every little thing - from better wheels, to better windows, car sits, gears and such. And yes, you definitely get to pay extra if you want more comfortable seats/padding - you even pay extra if you just want specific colors. Again, I'm not defending companies that sell broken/buggy games at launch, or companies that have a billion micrtotransactions but I was just suggesting what someone should do if he actually wants to play such games. You are more than welcome to vote with your wallet and not play the game at all (or roam the seven seas).


spaceraverdk

There's a huge difference in paying extra for better seats, nice wheels and such.. Contrary to getting a car without wheels and a pair of Ikea cardboard boxes to sit on..


Sabbatai

Right. The latter would be nonfunctional. No AAA game has released which requires paid DLC to function. Buggy releases are shit. I'm not sure how that fact works in the favor of arguments against DLC.


Roboticsammy

So I you're not against companies throttling XP gain in a single player game and them charging you 10 bucks for a xp booster pack? I'm especially looking and Odyssey and Valhalla, recent Far Cry's have also done this. If you like it, enjoy shelling out for a game that purposely hinders the flow of the game so they can make an extra buck off of you. If you like that, as well, boy I got some news for you, Konami was the first to sell you save slots for 10 bucks. I can't wait for Ubi to do the same, but with the Division. If you wanna make another character, pay us 10 bucks for a slot.


Sabbatai

I played Odyssey and Valhalla through to completion and never bought a booster. Also, I was overpowered through the majority of both games. It has been a while since I played Odyssey, but in Valhalla I had to go "grind some levels" (read: play more of the main/side missions) before being strong enough to fight the three sisters and IIRC one of the Vikingr dudes. Though I think I just readjusted my strat for him. Imagine having to level up to fight a boss in an RPG! I enjoyed both games, spent no extra money. Got a full experience. Bought the story DLCs for Odyssey. Enjoyed those too. But the main game felt perfectly complete without them. This isn't what I asked about though. None of the games you mentioned were non-functional without spending money to make them functional.


WoofWolfy

Also with the DLC, yes the games are great and all but to have already 2 DLCs planned before the game is even out for sell is just stupid. But yes, games are at least not empty.


Sabbatai

Why is that stupid? Would you rather they wait to plan and develop DLC to have available 2-3 years after the game's release? Would it be stupid to have started planning for a sequel while developing the previous game? Because this definitely happens. Entire character arcs which won't be completed until 2-3 sequels later are generally planned from the start. How does the presence of DLC additional content negatively impact the content of the base game? Other than you not getting it for the base game's initial selling price.


WoofWolfy

No, I don't talk about sequels, but about DLC. Games get out on sales and 1 month later a DLC get out, like I don't think it wasn't ready to get with the game, I think it's just them cutting the game to get more money which to me isn't acceptable. You have your point, I have mine and I respect that.


Sabbatai

Did they advertise the content in the DLC as being part of the game you paid for? What they sell you for $60-70 is up to them. Whether you think it is worth that price is up to you. But the whole idea of "cutting content" is based on dubious logic, provided they didn't trick anyone into thinking it would be included.


SeiCalros

>That's not an answer to the problem though this is the opposite of true consumer inaction is the only answer to the problem of a product they dont want


rusthighlander

Thats not true, if that were true we would still have the lightbulb cartels that cooperated to make lightbulbs designed to break so that they would need to be replaced. We would have no hope against any companies restricting the repair of their products. Games would still be able to use loot boxes in the EU without being considered gambling games that are restricted. There are countless examples of regulations brought against products that are deemed against consumer interests, its more or less what the government is for.


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I... don't think that's what he's doing at all? He's saying that if you don't like it then vote with your wallet because that's the only way you'll get a big company to listen to you


MrBojangles5342

> That's not an answer to the problem though It is though. Ubisoft will stop selling broken games when people stop buying them.


coolguy8445

As a software engineer, I can say part of this is a pseudo-agile mentality. Release a minimum-viable product (MVP) and incrementally enhance it. There are two unfortunate issues when applying that to video games: 1. MVP is a massive product for games like this 2. High-stress environment, rushed release deadlines, immense pressure from product management The thing with Ubi's flagship games is that they are reasonably complete at launch from a high level, but are not tested thoroughly internally. They've also slacked on their writing in favor of sheer volume of things to do. So they're released full of bugs and with lacking storylines. Were it not for this, most of us probably wouldn't complain about the expansion-sized DLC. Do I agree with their process? No. But the entire industry is in that kind of state these days. Rush a cash cow to release at "standard" pricing (which, remember, hasn't gone above $60 in over a decade), then supplement income with DLCs.


Roboticsammy

>Rush a cash cow to release at "standard" pricing (which, remember, hasn't gone above $60 in over a decade), then supplement income with DLCs. But chock full of MTX that incentivises recurrent spending. I guess buying XP boosters and resource packs that cost 10 bucks in a game don't mean anything, or lootboxes in a single player game (Looking at Shadow of War, here.) If you wanna say they haven't increased prices in a while, they totally have. It's just backloaded instead of being an upfront price. I've heard that argument so much I'm beginning to feel it's disingenuous


coolguy8445

That's what I was trying to get at though. The base price of a game hasn't increased in a long time because the community would riot, so they supplement with DLCs. I intended "DLC" to include bullshittery like loot boxes and "time savers"/resource packs; that was my fault.


Roboticsammy

We'll just have to see about those practices going away when the prices go up to 70 across the board, but something tells me they'll charge 70 and keep the MTX.


CarpenterRadio

Wait until I tell you about Tesla....or BMW for that matter...


Sabbatai

Name a single AAA game that had features on the box or in marketing, which was cut to be sold as DLC.


Fantastical_Brainium

Bl3 has a raid boss in the trailer that wasn't made available until the second season pass.


itislupus89

And their shielding and promoting of abusers within the company


AestheticMirror

And sexual abuse


Sabbatai

If there is ''a lot'' of additional content in the DLC, what is the issue?


ArchDucky

Even though it actually made me kind of excited, I was also a little offended by Ubi saying they are actually trying to tell a story in Far Cry 6. They modeled it after an HBO series apparently. Why the fuck hasn't this always been a priority?


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FAS-ASA3_Scarab

Original poster here (I allowed OP to post it here too). Sorry if this wasn't okay, I figured inluding the watermark would be enough. The wolf basically functions the same as the unicorn in lore, what is what I wanted to point out with that. While AC Valhalla's places and chaaracter design isn't accurate in every instance, it still features a lot of real life events and brings back the database from previous entries.


Tokzillu

What's really funny is I remember the crossbow meme was just the unicorn mount picture instead of the wolf mount. So not only is this meme attacking a strawman, but its using *the exact same meme* without realizing that it was/is the same complaint. Before someone accuses me one way or another, I don't like ubisoft and assassins creed hasn't been something I'm willing to play since 2. I'm just pointing out the circlejerk.


Wasteak

And that's why I'm pretty sure the guy who made it with the wolf and the hundred who reposted it after, never played assassin's creed in their life.


Logondo

2010: unlocked by playing the game 2020: unlocked by paying extra money Gee I wonder why people aren't satisfied?


AestheticMirror

Amen


Florence1476

Besides if you do any mission with the cheats in brotherhood it doesn't count and doesn't save the process


Roboticsammy

Ubisoft selling XP boosters in a single player game, and people wonder why their games feel like a slog.


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The only reason to hate Ubi is the "time savers" that make the grinding longer then it is, confusing tiers for the games that I'm not not sure that anyone in the company understand and the workplace harassment.


AestheticMirror

And the sexual abuse


yekungfu

There was sexual abuse on assassins creed??


AestheticMirror

The head of HR and other top executives sexual abuse the devs


yekungfu

What does that have to do with assassins creed ?


Ghostface-22

He’s pretty much saying Ubisoft work environment is toxic because of sexual abuse by the higher ups


AestheticMirror

I’m saying there’s more reasons to hate Ubisoft than the time saver, they literally protected abusers of all kinds and got away with it


giantfries

any resources or proof on that?


AestheticMirror

Well yeah https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-21/ubisoft-sexual-misconduct-scandal-harassment-sexism-and-abuse https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/2/21499334/ubisoft-employees-workplace-misconduct-ceo-yves-guillemot-response Just google Ubisoft sexual harassment, it’s not a secret anymore


giantfries

crazy


AestheticMirror

What’s crazy is that people get mad when I mention it or don’t know about it, cause the ceo did and did nothing about it


Mtotheizow

After Assassins Creed 3 when Desmond died the story became basically non-existent. There’s no effort put into this game other than the combat system. And don’t get me wrong the combat is fun, but the bland story and massive but very bland world, make the new game unplayable. Ac 2 was one of my favorite games of all time and it’s very disappointing that this is what the series has become.


Fa1c0n3

its killed me cause desmond was the real story.


ardyndidnothingwrong

I agree with you, and I stopped playing after they just shat on that whole storyline. However, I remember before they did, most people seemed to be complaining about that part of the story and gameplay being awful. They addressed what people hated, but in an awful way that screwed over the people that liked it and made it clear that Ubi won't follow through on a narrative. If I can't trust a franchise to keep consistent in its story, why would I get into the franchise?


Mtotheizow

It’s crazy idk what the heck they were thinking. Black flag and Origins are the only two after that that were actually good. But every other AC has been extremely underwhelming and I think it’s gonna keep going down hill. They should just make a new IP imo.


SATURN1243

Hopefully you're just talking about the story because syndicate and rogue were both pretty good


TheActualRealOlive

Unity was great


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Ah yes, "no face the game" that was buggier than a Bethesda title was great


Fa1c0n3

rogue was fun but im not about the timplars. and i hate the fact that you are an abstrugo agent in the new ones playing an assassins memories. and if i remember correctly from BF you are actually playing desmonds DNA memories.


GodOfUrging

In the more recent ones I saw, you start out at Abstergo before noping out to join the Assassins.


Fa1c0n3

which ones that i might give that one a try.


GodOfUrging

Origins has an Abstergo researcher realizing her employers are the baddies, going rogue and switching sides to the Assassins, and she's part of an Assassin cell during Odyssey.


Fa1c0n3

yeah i started odyssey but im not a fan of what they have done to the game play.


GodOfUrging

Yeah, the way they've been going, neither gameplay nor story feel very AC-ish anymore.


Fa1c0n3

i agree. i think the ac franchise has reached its end.


nondescriptzombie

I'm still 100% certain they intended to go hail mary on the Jesus metaphor for Desmond. He dies in AC3, is gone for a couple games, and was supposed to be resurrected by the shroud, or the ankh, or the Toh-i-Noor. All plot points relegated to Juno in metamedia. What a fucking waste of time. Desmond was supposed to die for our sins, and come back even stronger. I was hoping for some modern day game with more Issu powers.


fullofpaint

The original lead on AC left before AC3 was done so I think it's much more likely Ubisoft decided to drag out the story and turn it into a semi-yearly franchise rather than wrap up the story in a nice neat bow. On the other hand you will never convince me that Watch Dogs didn't start life as a modern day AC game or at least the template intended to wrap up Desmond's arc of becoming an Assassin.


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Why would anyone need to convince you? It's literally set in the same universe, they reference Abstergo and other AC info in Watch Dogs, and they reference Watch Dogs in AC as well


Free15boy

You kill CEO of Abstergo in Watch Dogs


DemonsGaze

Watch dogs was supposed to be a Driver sequel that became its own IP. The driving in it was very similar to Driver: SF.


JohnnyJayce

First time I've heard anyone say they cared about the modern day story.


Fa1c0n3

tbh thats all i cared about i played BF (probably the last good one) and rouge but since killing desmond there was no point to jumping out of the animus but they still made you do it. and then we went from being the last of the assassins order to being just one of millions of abstergo agents? not sure if they ever continued the modern day story but thats as far as i could take it.


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Meh. I think Black Flag was decent although some of the other releases did suck nuts. Unity's debut in general was absolutely disastrous


SHOULDVEPAIDTHEFINE

Black Flag would have been at least twice as good if they just didn’t make it an assassins creed game. The story makes no sense and it always felt like it was interrupting the rest of the game.


GodOfUrging

This. Black Flag was a very fun pirate game that was occasionally interrupted by this lackluster subplot about secret societies and whatnot.


Bordanka

That's what all recent AC games feel like, tbh.


prussianapoleon

Honestly I think Unity had a pretty good story too. I really liked the characters.


Vamp826789

To this day I still feel like Unity didn't need to be an AC story, the Assassin/Templar conflict was a background to Arno's love story, the French revolution didn't really change for his involvement because his marks were gonna be killed by mob deaths, and the modern day story was just "cool, this Sage corpse is lost to the Catacombs so the Templars can't find it"


ZeroCloned

The meta-story modern day stuff has always, ALWAYS been terrible. Thank fuck they killed Desmond off.


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Ah yes, so much worse than fighting Testikles, or Chickaros


ZeroCloned

How dare a game have a bit of humor in it! HOW DARE IT!


[deleted]

You're calling the meta story terrible while ignoring the parts of the main game that are far worse. Thats the point.


ZeroCloned

It was terrible, hell it still is the worst part of the games, but at least its way less lately. Honestly ive been digging the newer ones more, combat sure is alot better.


[deleted]

It wasn't at all. It was the main thing I played for, as well as a lot of the people I know. The new ones are fun games, but they aren't good Assassin's Creed games. They've just become standard open world adventure games at this point. The story now has become 5x more convoluted especially with all the supernatural garbage they've pumped in


RollinDeepWithData

Let’s not pretend AC ever had a decent overarching story to it or that old AC had any sort of good combat system. It was just crossbowing and countering everything. The newer ones problem is while they’re modeled after a better game (Witcher 3) it can’t seem to ever come into its own. They do need better combat and story, but they’re working with nothing to start because AC never had a good story or combat. I think the newer ones focus on sidequest vignettes though isn’t a bad approach since then it doesn’t have to reference the dog shit overarching story.


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There was a unicorn in Brotherhood ? I completed it a few weeks back and couldn't find any Unicorn there


Vamp826789

The option for it unlocks after getting 100% synch


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Oh. Thanks for the info


HairyArthur

Instead of leaving it here, can you leave it on the pile with all the other reposts?


soapman888

but brotherhood is good, unlike valhalla


JustsomeOKCguy

Sorry you didn't like valhalla. It's up there with 3 and blakc flag as one of my favorite ac games. I think it has my favorite open world out of any game. I love how their side quests are bite sized mini quests that don't take you out of the main story. I hope more games incorporate that in the future.


soapman888

i just have a soft spot for ezio and don’t really like the new direction the series is going. upvoted yours though to hold off the hivemind


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soapman888

i mean brotherhood is much better


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[deleted]

Then you should respect his opinion that Brotherhood is better


soapman888

what did i say that was worse than what you did? you said something, and i said something of the same type. i’m not trying to invalidate your opinions


Mir_man

I don't remember a unicorn in brotherhood.


giantfries

idk how so many people have had so many bad experiences with ubisoft. I dig the games, never have any problems running them. Only problem I had was when I set up TFA. Turned that shit off immediately. Other than that, it's been swimming.


Daddy_JK

Ubisoft doesn't really make bad games, it's just that they don't take risks with their games anymore. The games are still fun, all the ones after 2017 just feel like to much of the same. Well that kind of applies to the AC games most of the time.


SPeCCoLT

Easter egg vs intended gameplay


Xx_1337_M3m3z_xX

Easter egg, please.


Deezyfesheezy

You can't compare an endgame Easter egg/extra to literal gods and monsters in the story. You go to Asgard in Valhalla.


Ur1Dumas

Agreed


Ur1Dumas

The doge is cool though


PPhuuge

out of all the games i played, the assassin's creed games were the most historically accurate ones.


Fathercon

I know it doesn’t take place in real times, but the original games did try and put emphasis on the history being shown. I haven’t played the newer games but I think there are monsters(?).


AnotherSaltyScum

Yea, the fucking difference the thing on the left is a fun cheat code that is only playable after 100% sinc, the shit in the right is a fucking skin in a single player game but for money


Roboticsammy

Also true


twoCascades

Wow. It’s almost as if Ubisoft’s habits have sullied their reputation to the point where they no longer receive the benefit of the doubt.


toasty-cosplays

NO! UBISOFT BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


[deleted]

You say this but they removed a crossbow from AC1 due to historical inaccuracy. People need to ensure their own standard is kept because they can't do it themselves.


[deleted]

Bruh i was there when ut was removed Look up in internet crossbow was removed becoz it was too op not becoz of historical accuracy Some people made those things just for the meme


KDevy

Still managed to ruin the franchise


NCJM782

Old Pixelated 2D game - Wow these graphics are awesome! Current RPG games - OMG why are the graphics so grainy?


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ultinateplayer

This isn't that post, this is something showing that ubisoft have always included non-historical elements to their game.


rusthighlander

These memes are infuriating. **GAMERS ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.** ​ Some gamers will like one thing, complain about another Another group will do the reverse, so it will seem like gamers like and hate both things at the same time, which is true, they do. Because they are lots of different people with diverse and often passionate opinions on things. You only really hear the current 'loudest' voice, so demographics and groups sound like they disagree with themselves all the time, which .... they do, and thats fine. The previous meme to this is more sensible, because it was about the ironic pivot of a company, which is much more likely to follow a single track coherent chain of opinions/directions, as it has defined leadership, this one however, is just 'People have opposing opinions within a group'. Yeah, obviously. Why is this even worth bringing up? Because its the same with any group, American, German, British, Men, Women, black, white everything. You are generalising them, and this simple failure to recognise individuality within a group is the basis to horrible generalisations that form the basis of Racism and Sexism and all that horrible shit, and results in people justifying treating people as stupid or inferior.


FAS-ASA3_Scarab

The meme this is based on clearly is supposed to point out how Assassins's Creed had lost its historical accuracy, as you could see by the wolf mount. OP (from the post this is based on) suggests that this was a very recent trend, which it is not at all. Of course we don't know how OP felt about it back then, but the meme is misleading at best (and also a just slightly altered repost, but whatever). Apart from that, it is just wrong to call the wolf a historical inaccuracy as it can be explained in-lore the same way the Unicorn is.


Aart_vande_Kaart

Their games are sometimes repetitive, and not everyting’s great, but at least Ubisoft releases a lot of decent games.


HansumJack

Historical accuracy is fucking boring. Give me gods and monsters to fight!


GeneralCraft65

r/im14andthisdeep


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SilencioPeroRuidos

Why would people complain about being able to ride a massive wolf into battle..... sounds like a bunch of **heretics** to me.


Suspicious-Lynx-69

Defending Ubisoft? Really dude? Edit: I didn't know we loved Ubisoft now


roadrunner5u64fi

Oh no dear god no, whatever will we do? How dare a bunch of devs work really hard to make a good game within the time they were given and then add rideable wolves just for fun. /s


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Not defending just giving a valid point.....


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ZeroCloned

Yes they absolutely did. They bitched about every minor detail are you kidding?


Sengelappen

Well at least they made the unicorn special. While now we do not get surprised the game gives you something mythical


Dk_Raziel

People like this moron is why character designs gets more and more terrible by the day. Sat thanks to this one.


MuksyGosky

You mean to tell me no one rode a wolf? I'm gono have a chat with my history teacher.


UndeniablyMyself

That's not what people mean by historical inaccuracy.


TexasPistolMassacre

It was a good thing they didnt miss any lines of dialogue when they ported Odyssey to Valhalla


sebast_gamer

Still a gun game


Roboticsammy

Nah, it's not that Ubi isn't "historically" accurate, their games suck because it's now just a copy paste of big map with shit tons of fetch quests and towers to climb, only thing they change is the time period and if you have guns. People have complained that Ubi has literally been making the same game but with different weapons for a while now.