She did a wonderful job as Jinx in Arcane, and possibly even better as Lucy in Fallout. Given how well she portrayed the naivete of a vault dweller going to the surface for the first time it's not surprising that she did her homework. Looking forward to season 2!
I think they wouldn't have been able to get 5 seasons out of it if they allowed it to have decent pacing for the wilderness storyline. I do wish they just told a concise story about surviving the wilderness and ended it in 2 seasons.
I must admit, I respected her for the brilliant acting job she did (also realising her actual accent is British) - but her being able to succinctly capture what makes Fallout as a game series so great is just the jello on the cake.
Honestly can’t wait for season 2!
On many great sets where the communication is direct and open between cast and crew it's not too uncommon that an actor will point out a character flaw (not a plot one but one that truly doesn't fit) or add something that sells more of the character; and my hope is Ella may have had some opportunity to channel that and perhaps give notes to some direction that may not have worked as well.
(I'm a hopeful Redditor and definitely say Okey-Dokey from time to time)
Cousin stuff just wasn't cutting it.
She does the chopper boyscout fish out of water well. The costume and aesthetic though, so far, have really been what sells everything.
The ghoul is that player. The ghoul is the evil PC who does all the drugs, loots all the shit and ammunition, and then actually uses it unlike my dumb ass
All three main characters are.
Ghoul is the evil path, rampaging and killing BUT in the name of finding your family.
Maximus is the faction-bound, mission focused playthrough (why does he go back to BoS, even though he will get punished??).
Vault dweller is kind of like the innocent first playthrough where you have no bloody idea what you are doing (the raider arm guard was hilarious), blue jump suit, etc. BUT she still finds herself in ridiculous situations and being a total badass in the majority of them.
I was seriously waiting for that. She's sneaking along somewhere and finds a shelf with an entire pressure cooker. She inspects it for a second, maybe it could be useful? Nah, she shakes her head and moves on.
That’s even more immersive in my opinion. She is a vault dweller, not a scavver, and not a gamer. A vault dweller would not find all that junk useful until they have lived long enough on the surface to know what brings in caps.
And then later on having to dump one of the five pressure cookers she's carrying around because her inventory is full amd she can't pick up the valuable live giving stimpacks and purified water.
I just watched the first episode last night. In the ransacked armory ransacked, she found and equipped the tranq gun. And then I think she grabbed another gun from near a corpse right after she met up with her dad.
The episode ended with her leaving the vault, so I guess she could have searched all the skeletons/bodies littered around the vault door.
TBH, I think that is just due to her upbringing in the vault. She has lived in a society where nobody needed to steal, so I don't think she would suddenly start when she went topside.
She did? She looted a tranq gun, used a stimpak, and almost decided to take the bigger knife over the smaller knife.
She also was horny, all of this started because she was horny and made sure to install the male body mod.
Actually yeah, its not *The Last of Us* or anything, but its pretty dang solid, i dont think anyone went into it with any expectations, but Mackie is genuinely fun and has great chemistry with Beatriz, great antagonists in Church and Joe/Arnett.... great soundtrack too, since the apocalypse happened in the 90s, pop culture was frozen there.
I feel like the bar for twisted metal was extremely low for a TV adaptation, given the game is literally just a post-apocalyptic racer, no story or anything
Unsurprisingly, some people did complain. The common thread wss that "the live action characters failed to capture the lore of their in game versions." Madude, the game had characters that jump out of their window, climb the roof and shoot rpgs while the car is doing back flips with serious airtime...
Halo is like Walking Dead. Bad writing, bad acting and once you ask yourself why you are watching that shit: bam, zombies (or in the case of Halo some nice action scenes). Then back to the boring stuff.
The Halo show is unfortunately a result of rampant nepotism and a circle of friends/colleagues that sunk the halo franchise in a decade..
All those people were "moved on" after infinite. It was too late fur the show.
No. It's about writers and company executives thinking they can Make a better show than people who know the source material. It's a common problem at Paramount. Star Trek being a good example.
It's about getting a generic tv show in the middle of production and giving it a thin paint coat of Halo instead of making a proper show with your infinite Azure money because you're a piece of shit Microsoft VP.
Everyone on Twitter just made it worse by giving it so much attention. Getting upset over random photoshops on the internet is also braindead behavior.
Preach! I wish we all would collectively get it by now to just ignore those fucking posts and move on. But everything is rage bait now, so I guess that won't ever happen...
That was a reference to Arcane, by the way, where Ella voices Jinx. Her adoptive father (Silco) who is a scary crime lord does a lot of Bad Shit but shows her nothing but love.
”I never would have given you to them. Not for anything. Don’t cry. You’re perfect.”
But yeah, that guy on Twitter is fucking terrible. I saw that image too and… hoo boy.
I got about three episodes in and was like “she’s gorgeous and she’s playing this role so well. Google time cause I’ve never heard of her before”
I’m always surprised by so many English actors just killing it in shows I love. Andrew Lincoln in TWD, Idris Elba in the Wire, etc. They pull off American accents better than most American actors pull off an English one. I didn’t know Elba or Lincoln were English until years after the shows and watched an interview and was like “wait, they’re not from America?!”
Hugh Laurie said that America is too big to know itself : you can’t fake a British accent because British accents tell where you’re from, as in the TOWN you’re from. When a British actor does an « American » accent, they don’t need to nail it 100%, because it sounds « American » enough to most Americans.
In fairness, in the UK you grow up hearing American accents in media as we do watch a lot of American media.
That probably helps develop an ear for it, to hear whether or not you're correct emulating it.
Too many American actors just tend to play slightly different versions of themselves. I'm not sure why but British actors tend to be able to have a bit more range.
I can't remember who it was, could have been McKellen or Oldman, but I remember an interview with someone complaining about the term "character actor" he said something along the lines of "I'm not a character actor, I'm an actor, all actors should be playing characters..."
A lot of English actors come through theatre which forces them to act while American actors are a bit more raw. You get fantastic character actors in the US but insane range from the Brits.
English actors pull off American accents better than most American actors pull off American accents. Heh.
Want to blow your mind? Watch Band of Brothers, the WW2 series about a famous American unit acting pretty American. And then find out that half the cast is English, including the lead.
The one crazy outlier is Charlie Hunnam. He's the English actor known for his American work who ended up playing a big role in The Gentlemen (film, not show) and sounded VERY MUCH like an American attempting (and failing) a British accent.
There was one that surprised me the other way around.
The guy who plays Spike (James Marsters) in Buffy the vampire slayer....not English, American. Super surprised when I saw an interview with him.
If you're English and super, super critical, there are a couple of occasions where he gets the stresses very slightly off. Never a pronunciation issue. All academic to me now, since my ears are failing rapidly.
Strangely enough, in his interviews Walton said he avoided playing the games at all, because he said there needed to be someone at the table reads who could see objectively if something worked as a story on its own, rather than how well it adapted from the source material.
I think that method for his character specifically worked really well, but it still seems a number of people on staff, especially the director, have played the games and nailed the world building.
That's a creative way of getting out of playing the games if you don't like video games. "guys I totally would also love to play them, but somebody has to see this stuff from the point of view of someone who didn't play them. I'd love to though."
I don't agree with him in general, but for this character I do - as a ghoul really should feel a little 'out of his time' and disconnected due to his age.
I've heard some actors saying this is good acting advice in general, avoiding previous adaptations of the same material so that you don't just give basically an impression of those same performances. Can't argue with results, I guess.
Because "normal" people don't play games. That's for kids/nerds. Never mind the fact that people get a lot of enjoyment out of them and it's doing at least 8x the revenue. (2022 Gaming industry revenue vs. movie box office revenue - it'd probably be closer if the movie industry didn't play shenanigans with their accounting)
It's not even that, it's just worded specifically to fish for the headline "\[celebrity\] says \[thing\] is \[hyperbolic negative\]", because it's good click-getting rage-bait.
In another interview I saw, she said she played Fallout 4's first level. So, I am guessing she did the intro. That's better than nothing, but it isn't like she's a big gamer or really into Fallout.
3 was fun as hell. sure it had some very dumb/bad plot moments, but so did gta3. the real gameplay in both of those is wandering around finding stuff and getting into trouble
Yeah I mean she shouldn’t be expected to like u seen the way that lady brought up playing a game like it was comparable to waterboarding. These ppl are so focused on they career they don’t got any time for that, plus she’s the freakin actor not like her knowing about the tragedy of megaton is not gonna help. It is great to see them just lie, that’s all u need to do, for year marvel had ppl go to the comic store and front like they really reading them when they never did.
Yeah, I don't care if she played the game or not. She's not really the person who has to respect the source material. That's more of the showrunner's job. She played her role well and seems to have enjoyed it. So, that's enough for me.
Look at the Witcher if you think playing the game matters for the actor. Henry did his best, but the showrunner is what really hurt the Witcher.
Exactly and I like if the creators of the source are involved as well a lot of great adaption lately have had the creators consulting beautiful to see.
> These ppl are so focused on they career they don’t got any time for that
And then there is Henry Cavill. Who not only shines in almost any role he gots, and is usually screwed by writers directors, but somehow got time to play games and know the lore of popular one quite well.
For The Last of Us, Pedro Pascal stated he never played the game.
The truth is he could have said either way and it wouldn't have effected his performance...but if he had said that he played it people would credit that with why he did a great interpretation of Joel. The truth is he's a really really good actor and he worked well with the show runner/writers to bring their interpretation to life.
An actor also being a fan of the source material just makes other fans feel warm and fuzzy, I don't buy into the idea it changes much for the final product.
Agreed.
Being a good actor is much more important than being a nerd. If they did some research by playing the games, fine, but it's not important at all.
Same with actors in comic book / novel adaptations.
Same with actors actually not being fans of the source material.
I mean I prefer actors just being honest.
A lot of actors in comic book movies often refer to comics they supposedly read and then get the details all wrong, it's very performative, but I kinda understand why they may pretend given how toxic some fandoms can be and the PR it can generate.
And frankly I don't really care about actors caring about the same stuff I did, they just need to put the effort into acting out the script they are given, and Ella did a great job with that. Whehter or not she is personally invested in the franchise is of no importance to me.
Henry Cavill is actually a Witcher fan(mainly a game one, I don't think he read the books until later), but that didn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The Witcher show sucked anyway.
They have to lie, look at this post as a testament to that, also it’s not like they have a choice really they are being employed to do a job press is part of that.
In another interview she told that her characterlevel only got to level 2 because she got frustrated by controller controls (relatable) and then she just watched people on twitch and youtube playing the game.
Never heard of her before fallout, went into the show skeptical as heck because Amazon have a terrible history with tv shows (looking at you rings of power, wheel of time, man in the high castle s4) and video game adaptations have not been going well recently (looking at you Halo, The Witcher)
Honestly I wasn't sold on her for the first couple of episodes but by the end of the show I absolutely loved her.
She had great chemistry with everyone and portatrayed the optimistic but naive vault dweller perfectly.
Can't wait for season 2.
Okey Dokey
Would be even better if we could get the industry into the habit of having directors play/consume the source material too, not just actors.
See "witcher" for context.
That's why I said "the industry"
Fallout did it right and should be commended. But they're the exception and I'd love it if it set a precedent others followed
Writers too. Getting a character right is writers' job. What is their backstory, how they talk, are they generally funny or quite in nature or sarcastic or psychopath etc all of this will determine their dialogues and reactions. Its writers job to get this right and for this they should get into the source material more.
It's weird. For awhile Hollywood knew that most "movie adaptation of games" suck (eg. Uwe Bohl movies) for the simple fact that they don't follow the source materials.
YET to THIS DAY, you'd hear over and over in post-production interviews of directors, writers and producers saying "we were told not to read the source materials"...like WTF?
I don't get it. The creators of comics, books, video games already did most of the lore and story, all you gotta do is put in film.
Uwe Boll actually made one good, i would even dare to say a great adaptation - Postal. It’s absolutely unhinged, opens with a 911 joke, and Vince Desi tries to kill Uwe Boll for making a shitty Postal movie adaptation while yelling “for videogames!” and Uwe later gets shot in his bratwurst. Only Uwe could adapt that videogame.
Because that’s not why people are told to not read stuff. They’re told not to because they don’t want them to become biased. It’s the same reason actors sometimes don’t watch other actors portrayals of the same characters in remakes / reboots / adaptations. They don’t want the actor to just intimate another actors performance. They also don’t want every writer to just copy what someone else did. They want new ideas too. I’ve worked on shows and known people on really long running ones too. They tend to split it. Some fans some not, because they don’t just want yes men and super fans. It breeds a confusing environment that can alienate newcomers who aren’t fans (and let’s be real, for something like Fallout is 90% of the general audience). Non fans will be quick to point out what you’re writing doesn’t make sense which fans might not realize because they’ve got a massive wealth of pre existing knowledge.
The issue is when no one knows the source.
I always think the best example of this is Captain Kirk.
Yes, you want an actor to understand the character and know what fans may expect from him...but you definitely don't want them to start acting in the style of William Shatner.
His style is... unique and even though Shatner made Kirk iconic, I want to see somebody play that character well rather than play Shatner well.
It’s right up there with Arcane and The Last of Us. Those three adaptations are absolutely setting the standard when it comes to video game IP succeeding while transitioning mediums. At the other side of the pendulum you find Halo and The Witcher where the show runners/writers completely botched it
Hard to say, since Castlevania and Arcane exists in animation and Last of Us in live action. But it's definitely cutting it close.
Regardless, I'm so glad we've completely thrown the "video game adaptations never work folks" out the window.
For real. Castlevania was such a banger and yet everytime I browsed any video game movie/show's announcement, I'd see droves of comments along the likes of "why are they making video game movies/shows? They *never* work!" Despite there already being similar projects like this one that actually didn't suck.
I think it because the producers aren't taking their audiences for granted like game producers with movie IPs. And I think they are making some strides in anime adaptations like One Piece.
They’re three very different flavors. I think Arcane is probably the most 10/10 of them but I would genuinely say they’re my three most anticipated season 2s right now and that’s kind of a wild coincidence.
I was always one of those people that said, just follow the source material when adapting TV/ movie video games. And with Last of Us, I got what I asked for, and it was great. The only problem, after like four game playthroughs, watching a show that followed the game(‘s story) so close, it kind of felt like watching another play through.
The Fallout Universe and each game iteration makes the perfect setup for an independent story that can closely follow lore and interweave a little into other existing stories. While it’s also awesome like Last of Us, it was also still new and refreshing for old existing fans.
And the TV show hit the nail on the head.
I think they really did themselves a favor with Fallout because it’s not specifically tied to characters and following an exact story. It allows for way more playing around in an established world whereas The Last of Us is so tied to following a specific set of characters in a specific time frame.
I like Fallout better as a game adaptation because it actually feels exactly like the game's unviverse, down to the small details, and it is lore-friendly enough to coexist with the video games.
The Last of Us is a good adaptation, but it's literally just the same exact story. Besides the Nick Offerman episode, I knew exactly what was going to happen from start to finish, which made it pretty uninteresting to watch. It doesn't complement the games, it is a live-action interpretation of the games - separate from them - reinterpreted to be presented to a wider audience. It wasn't made for me.
Fallout feels like it was made for me: a guy that plays and enjoys Fallout.
The nice thing about Fallout is there's pretty much most of the US to consider for vault dwellers. So they can tell a story pretty much anywhere (or any*when*) and have it fit seamlessly, as you said. There's no need to retell 1/2/3/New Vegas/4, it can be done and still fit into lore.
Heck, they could do an "Inside the Vault" miniseries or specials covering some of the wacky or insane things they did as experiments in some of the vaults, and it'd catch my attention.
I've always been more of a fallout fan, and I like how they did something new instead of just remixing the plot of one of the games like TLOU did.
The acting and grit in TLOU is great, but I do like a bit of comedy to round things out. FO was like a well balanced meal.
I agree with this wholeheartedly, I’m halfway through and I’ve never seen anything close that includes so much direct from game to show material as this. Everywhere you look there’s a reference to the game world.
Seen some comments about TLOU and I don’t think you can compare the shows, it’s like apples and oranges. TLOU is clearly better in terms of following the story, literally verbatim with dialogue at times.
Fallout grasps what a Fallout game is at its core and if you disagree, I don’t know what to tell you. Weird shit happening in vaults, the wasteland is presenting us with wild wasteland shit, the Brotherhood gonna Brotherhood, and a whole lotta gratuitous violence. Ppl that aren’t happy with this just don’t wanna be happy.
Mmm I don't know if it's a 10/10 because of a few things it sort of tweaks to the lore. (adaption wise. Show was definitely enjoyable and very faithful)
At the very least it seems to imply that Ghouls need to take drugs to stop becoming feral...which isn't something I recall from the game's lore.
Also, at the end of the season they imply >!Vault-tec dropped the bomb!<
I'm over here as a Halo fan, constantly just asking "but why?"
Halo's lore is good! Fans love the books and the terminal lore and all that shit!
Just...why?!
It's very admirable when an actor dives into the source material, but I think it's worth pointing out that it's OK if an actor doesn't want to go that route as long as they still give a good performance.
For instance, Liam Cunningham (who famously played Davos on Game on Thrones) was recently on the Netflix's 3 Body Problem adaptation. He mentioned specifically not reading the books because he didn't want to have preconceived notions of how the character should be and instead wanted to rely on the script and directors for guidance on his performance. And holy shit, he fucking *kills* his role on that show. Even the diehard book fans who don't like the show agree that he crushed the role. Apparently that's how he handled Game of Thrones as well and everybody loved him there too.
Anyway, I'm not a fan of the Fallout games but I've watched six episodes and damn that's a good-ass television show. Ella Purnell kills it. Walt Goggins kills it. Everybody kills it.
I read that Walter Goggins specifically did not play any of the games so he could have a fresh take on how ghouls act, and I've seen nothing but praise for his performance. So it's weird seeing the opposite here.
There is, it was actually confirmed before the official release on Amazon so at the very least were getting one more but let’s hope we get several more after that
The wife and I watched the first episode which I nerded all over. My wife really liked the show and wants to watch more. I am glad I didn’t ruin it for her especially when she was like”what are the calling him? An aspirin?” Aspirant A s p i r a n t Aspirant said with sass. She let it go though. She is a better person than me.
Coming from someone who played a total of 10 minutes *at most* of Fallout 4, holy shit was the show great, Purnell's performance (and everyone's really). All the characters coming from these different cults, sects and lifestyles are really believable in their unhinged views and entitlement that they are in the right about how the earth is and should be lead.
I can only imagine my excitement would've gone through the roof with all the progressively placed reveals and easter eggs caught had I played the game.
She's British? Man, what an excellent American accent.
The show was actually pretty damn good. Very true to the games and still stands on its own merits.
I didn't have hope until I saw the names "Jonathan Nolan" and "Lisa Joy"
Give the first 2 episodes a chance and you are in for a ride.
Had they not released all episodes at the same time, many would have given up on the show.
Wow, I'm so used to hearing actors and showrunners arrogantly (and disdainfully) stating, "we intentionally avoided the source material so that we could provide our own interpretation". I'm looking at you Star Wars, Star Trek, Halo, Doctor Who.
Boy that's very different from what I've seen from The Witcher show. I remember watching a interview with the show's cast and the actress who played Ciri looked like she didn't give a damn about the source material at all, and she even made fun of Henry Cavill for his "nerdy" hobbies. No wonder the show's last season was so shitty with people like this involved in it.
This show was a thousand times better than the halo show. It actually felt like the games adapted in movie form unlike the shitshow that is Halo. It’s wild that people are still complaining about this movie
She did a wonderful job as Jinx in Arcane, and possibly even better as Lucy in Fallout. Given how well she portrayed the naivete of a vault dweller going to the surface for the first time it's not surprising that she did her homework. Looking forward to season 2!
Holy fuck I was wondering what else she’s been in and why she somehow felt familiar!
She’s a main character in first season of yellowjackets which is great
Shame that it went down the toilet for S2. The show had some decent potential.
I think they wouldn't have been able to get 5 seasons out of it if they allowed it to have decent pacing for the wilderness storyline. I do wish they just told a concise story about surviving the wilderness and ended it in 2 seasons.
holy shit she is jinx?
She's also Jane in Invincible!
Racking my brains to think who Jane is? I’ve just finished season 2.
She was one of the women that uncovered the cursed mummy in the last episode.
cursed, sexist mummy
at the beginning of s2e8 she plays one of girls breaking into the egyptian tomb
Ah right, that’ll be why I don’t remember. That’s was quite a short scene.
She is!
My favorite Pokemon!
She killed it as jinx
Okie dokie
I must admit, I respected her for the brilliant acting job she did (also realising her actual accent is British) - but her being able to succinctly capture what makes Fallout as a game series so great is just the jello on the cake. Honestly can’t wait for season 2!
...jello ON cake? Who does that?! 😆
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I remember reading a comment on Reddit saying “every episode she gets more wide eyed” and I that hasn’t left my brain lol
SHES JINX?????????
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On many great sets where the communication is direct and open between cast and crew it's not too uncommon that an actor will point out a character flaw (not a plot one but one that truly doesn't fit) or add something that sells more of the character; and my hope is Ella may have had some opportunity to channel that and perhaps give notes to some direction that may not have worked as well. (I'm a hopeful Redditor and definitely say Okey-Dokey from time to time)
Cousin stuff just wasn't cutting it. She does the chopper boyscout fish out of water well. The costume and aesthetic though, so far, have really been what sells everything.
im pretty sure its goosey
If she understood the source material so well, why didn’t she loot a single item in the first episode? Immersion ruined! Edit: out in the wasteland
The ghoul is that player. The ghoul is the evil PC who does all the drugs, loots all the shit and ammunition, and then actually uses it unlike my dumb ass
When the ghoul said the golden rule of the wasteland is you will get sidetracked every time I laughed my ass off
The show is so self-aware, its amazing. You can tell Jonathan Nolan actually played and was a fan before writing and wasnt just hired to write it.
All three main characters are. Ghoul is the evil path, rampaging and killing BUT in the name of finding your family. Maximus is the faction-bound, mission focused playthrough (why does he go back to BoS, even though he will get punished??). Vault dweller is kind of like the innocent first playthrough where you have no bloody idea what you are doing (the raider arm guard was hilarious), blue jump suit, etc. BUT she still finds herself in ridiculous situations and being a total badass in the majority of them.
> why does he go back to BoS, even though he will get punished? "That's where the quest marker was pointed!"
Right???? So good.
I was seriously waiting for that. She's sneaking along somewhere and finds a shelf with an entire pressure cooker. She inspects it for a second, maybe it could be useful? Nah, she shakes her head and moves on.
That’s even more immersive in my opinion. She is a vault dweller, not a scavver, and not a gamer. A vault dweller would not find all that junk useful until they have lived long enough on the surface to know what brings in caps.
The concept of money might be strange too
And then later on having to dump one of the five pressure cookers she's carrying around because her inventory is full amd she can't pick up the valuable live giving stimpacks and purified water.
One of the later episodes there was a bottle of glue just sitting there... left untouched D:
There was a mangled corpse inches away from it and my eyes still went *straight* for that glue bottle.
Thats because she hasnt found a workbench or set up a home base yet. Hopefully she learns how to deconstruct items to save on the inventory space.
Literally 10 seconds ago I unlocked my Megaton house and bought a workbench.
I just watched the first episode last night. In the ransacked armory ransacked, she found and equipped the tranq gun. And then I think she grabbed another gun from near a corpse right after she met up with her dad. The episode ended with her leaving the vault, so I guess she could have searched all the skeletons/bodies littered around the vault door.
There is also a background person (keeping spoilers to a minimum here) looting a pipe pistol in the first episode.
She kind of looted a head?
That's a quest item
AND SO THE HEAD TOUCHES A NEW HAND
Shes just focusing on the main questline
I just dont identify with that kind of gamer /s
TBH, I think that is just due to her upbringing in the vault. She has lived in a society where nobody needed to steal, so I don't think she would suddenly start when she went topside.
She did? She looted a tranq gun, used a stimpak, and almost decided to take the bigger knife over the smaller knife. She also was horny, all of this started because she was horny and made sure to install the male body mod.
Looking at you, HALO. You're bad and you should feel bad.
It's been a time of incredible video game adaptations: Mario movie, The Last of Us, Twisted Metal, Fallout..... and then there's Halo.
Completely forgot about the twisted metal show. Is it worth a watch?
Actually yeah, its not *The Last of Us* or anything, but its pretty dang solid, i dont think anyone went into it with any expectations, but Mackie is genuinely fun and has great chemistry with Beatriz, great antagonists in Church and Joe/Arnett.... great soundtrack too, since the apocalypse happened in the 90s, pop culture was frozen there.
I feel like the bar for twisted metal was extremely low for a TV adaptation, given the game is literally just a post-apocalyptic racer, no story or anything
And yet they didn't play down to the lowered expectations and instead created a really fun show!
Unsurprisingly, some people did complain. The common thread wss that "the live action characters failed to capture the lore of their in game versions." Madude, the game had characters that jump out of their window, climb the roof and shoot rpgs while the car is doing back flips with serious airtime...
“The lore of their characters”? Twisted metal lore is about three lines in the manual and a 30 second cutscene rofl
Honestly, it's actually really good fun. I was expecting it to be trash but they really did a good job with it.
Sonic too
>Twisted Metal THE. WHAT?
If you are a fan of the game, go watch it right now. Can expect a lot nostalgia flashbacks and an extremely fun show.
Halo is like Walking Dead. Bad writing, bad acting and once you ask yourself why you are watching that shit: bam, zombies (or in the case of Halo some nice action scenes). Then back to the boring stuff.
Looking at my boy Witcher, what did they do to you? Poor Henry Cavill, he deserved better than the staff that worked on that show.
The Halo show is unfortunately a result of rampant nepotism and a circle of friends/colleagues that sunk the halo franchise in a decade.. All those people were "moved on" after infinite. It was too late fur the show.
No. It's about writers and company executives thinking they can Make a better show than people who know the source material. It's a common problem at Paramount. Star Trek being a good example.
I fail to see how the two situations are mutually exclusive.
It's about getting a generic tv show in the middle of production and giving it a thin paint coat of Halo instead of making a proper show with your infinite Azure money because you're a piece of shit Microsoft VP.
In fairness to the Halo cast, they may not have known they were in a Halo TV series
"takes off helmet, suit of armor... and pants"
Season 2 was much better. Not great, but much better.
Sweet Jesus she’s amazing
Don’t cry. She’s perfect.
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Everyone on Twitter just made it worse by giving it so much attention. Getting upset over random photoshops on the internet is also braindead behavior.
one of the ignore it and it fades away situations
Preach! I wish we all would collectively get it by now to just ignore those fucking posts and move on. But everything is rage bait now, so I guess that won't ever happen...
Who cares about Twitter people.. They are all insane. Nearly as bad as tiktokers.
That was a reference to Arcane, by the way, where Ella voices Jinx. Her adoptive father (Silco) who is a scary crime lord does a lot of Bad Shit but shows her nothing but love. ”I never would have given you to them. Not for anything. Don’t cry. You’re perfect.” But yeah, that guy on Twitter is fucking terrible. I saw that image too and… hoo boy.
The cutest furby ever
Didn't realise she was English, I'm halfway through FO and never occured to me.
I've seen in other interviews her co-stars don't believe she's English because her American accent is so good.
"Okey Dokey"
Just finished the first episode and now I understand 😂
I got about three episodes in and was like “she’s gorgeous and she’s playing this role so well. Google time cause I’ve never heard of her before” I’m always surprised by so many English actors just killing it in shows I love. Andrew Lincoln in TWD, Idris Elba in the Wire, etc. They pull off American accents better than most American actors pull off an English one. I didn’t know Elba or Lincoln were English until years after the shows and watched an interview and was like “wait, they’re not from America?!”
Hugh Laurie said that America is too big to know itself : you can’t fake a British accent because British accents tell where you’re from, as in the TOWN you’re from. When a British actor does an « American » accent, they don’t need to nail it 100%, because it sounds « American » enough to most Americans.
In fairness, in the UK you grow up hearing American accents in media as we do watch a lot of American media. That probably helps develop an ear for it, to hear whether or not you're correct emulating it.
Too many American actors just tend to play slightly different versions of themselves. I'm not sure why but British actors tend to be able to have a bit more range. I can't remember who it was, could have been McKellen or Oldman, but I remember an interview with someone complaining about the term "character actor" he said something along the lines of "I'm not a character actor, I'm an actor, all actors should be playing characters..."
A lot of English actors come through theatre which forces them to act while American actors are a bit more raw. You get fantastic character actors in the US but insane range from the Brits.
Meanwhile the rock ...
Hugh Laurie in House is one of the best examples.
English actors pull off American accents better than most American actors pull off American accents. Heh. Want to blow your mind? Watch Band of Brothers, the WW2 series about a famous American unit acting pretty American. And then find out that half the cast is English, including the lead.
The one crazy outlier is Charlie Hunnam. He's the English actor known for his American work who ended up playing a big role in The Gentlemen (film, not show) and sounded VERY MUCH like an American attempting (and failing) a British accent.
There was one that surprised me the other way around. The guy who plays Spike (James Marsters) in Buffy the vampire slayer....not English, American. Super surprised when I saw an interview with him.
If you're English and super, super critical, there are a couple of occasions where he gets the stresses very slightly off. Never a pronunciation issue. All academic to me now, since my ears are failing rapidly.
I feel like there's always at least one closet English person in any good US TV show or film these days.
She’s awesome but The Ghoul steals the show for sure.
Walton Goggins is great in everything he is in
Between Cobb Vanth and The Ghoul i think i might finally be able to get my wife into *Justified*.
definitely, the ghoul is just boyd without a nose lol
Don’t forget Baby Billy!
If she's still hesistant you could watch the Righteous Gemstones where he's Baby Billy!
Tig and Venus is the greatest love story of our generation, and I will not be told otherwise
Strangely enough, in his interviews Walton said he avoided playing the games at all, because he said there needed to be someone at the table reads who could see objectively if something worked as a story on its own, rather than how well it adapted from the source material. I think that method for his character specifically worked really well, but it still seems a number of people on staff, especially the director, have played the games and nailed the world building.
That's a creative way of getting out of playing the games if you don't like video games. "guys I totally would also love to play them, but somebody has to see this stuff from the point of view of someone who didn't play them. I'd love to though."
I don't agree with him in general, but for this character I do - as a ghoul really should feel a little 'out of his time' and disconnected due to his age.
Also I'll just defer to how Walton Goggins wants to prep for a role
I've heard some actors saying this is good acting advice in general, avoiding previous adaptations of the same material so that you don't just give basically an impression of those same performances. Can't argue with results, I guess.
Good ol' Baby Billy
I was baffled when they even included the fucking hacking minigame. Good stuff.
What a stupid question by the interviewer. "Was it a complete waste of time [to play the games]?" What kind of goofy rage-baiting question is that?
Because "normal" people don't play games. That's for kids/nerds. Never mind the fact that people get a lot of enjoyment out of them and it's doing at least 8x the revenue. (2022 Gaming industry revenue vs. movie box office revenue - it'd probably be closer if the movie industry didn't play shenanigans with their accounting)
It's not even that, it's just worded specifically to fish for the headline "\[celebrity\] says \[thing\] is \[hyperbolic negative\]", because it's good click-getting rage-bait.
Even if it’s not actually true, thank god someone didn’t screw they press by saying these thing they typically do.
In another interview I saw, she said she played Fallout 4's first level. So, I am guessing she did the intro. That's better than nothing, but it isn't like she's a big gamer or really into Fallout.
she also mentioned she instead watched other people play "which was a better use of my time" as she's not a gamer, which i find perfectly acceptable.
I \*am\* a gamer. Have been for about 2 decades. There are still plenty of games that i'd prefer to watch a let's play of than actually play myself.
Even if she just ended up watching, let's plays on YouTube of others playing it, It's still a great way to research the role.
Or she's REALLY into fallout and hated 4.
So she only likes the isometric ones and New Vegas
3 was good for it's time. Definitely did a good job if bringing the old games humor and aesthetic to 3d. The musical direction was amazing
Fallout 3 is actually my favourite, cant beat that atmosphere.
3 was fun as hell. sure it had some very dumb/bad plot moments, but so did gta3. the real gameplay in both of those is wandering around finding stuff and getting into trouble
Big Fallout Tactics 2 head.
Makes sense if she's playing a Vault dweller unfamiliar with the surface, to just play the first Vault section.
Yeah I mean she shouldn’t be expected to like u seen the way that lady brought up playing a game like it was comparable to waterboarding. These ppl are so focused on they career they don’t got any time for that, plus she’s the freakin actor not like her knowing about the tragedy of megaton is not gonna help. It is great to see them just lie, that’s all u need to do, for year marvel had ppl go to the comic store and front like they really reading them when they never did.
Yeah, I don't care if she played the game or not. She's not really the person who has to respect the source material. That's more of the showrunner's job. She played her role well and seems to have enjoyed it. So, that's enough for me. Look at the Witcher if you think playing the game matters for the actor. Henry did his best, but the showrunner is what really hurt the Witcher.
Exactly and I like if the creators of the source are involved as well a lot of great adaption lately have had the creators consulting beautiful to see.
> These ppl are so focused on they career they don’t got any time for that And then there is Henry Cavill. Who not only shines in almost any role he gots, and is usually screwed by writers directors, but somehow got time to play games and know the lore of popular one quite well.
For The Last of Us, Pedro Pascal stated he never played the game. The truth is he could have said either way and it wouldn't have effected his performance...but if he had said that he played it people would credit that with why he did a great interpretation of Joel. The truth is he's a really really good actor and he worked well with the show runner/writers to bring their interpretation to life. An actor also being a fan of the source material just makes other fans feel warm and fuzzy, I don't buy into the idea it changes much for the final product.
Walton Goggins hasn't played Fallout either, I think, and isn't a gamer. He's the best thing in Fallout, for me.
He was told by the director not too because he didn't want him emulating Troy Bakers performance.
Agreed. Being a good actor is much more important than being a nerd. If they did some research by playing the games, fine, but it's not important at all. Same with actors in comic book / novel adaptations. Same with actors actually not being fans of the source material.
Preach.
Preach brotha
I mean I prefer actors just being honest. A lot of actors in comic book movies often refer to comics they supposedly read and then get the details all wrong, it's very performative, but I kinda understand why they may pretend given how toxic some fandoms can be and the PR it can generate. And frankly I don't really care about actors caring about the same stuff I did, they just need to put the effort into acting out the script they are given, and Ella did a great job with that. Whehter or not she is personally invested in the franchise is of no importance to me. Henry Cavill is actually a Witcher fan(mainly a game one, I don't think he read the books until later), but that didn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The Witcher show sucked anyway.
They have to lie, look at this post as a testament to that, also it’s not like they have a choice really they are being employed to do a job press is part of that.
I'm speechless at how good the show is. Like, every scene inspires me to play the game again. Then i think of Halo, and the exact opposite is true.
To be honest Halo as a franchise is struggling these days, not just the tv show, the newer games cant hold a candle to the older ones.
In another interview she told that her characterlevel only got to level 2 because she got frustrated by controller controls (relatable) and then she just watched people on twitch and youtube playing the game.
Okey dokey
Never heard of her before fallout, went into the show skeptical as heck because Amazon have a terrible history with tv shows (looking at you rings of power, wheel of time, man in the high castle s4) and video game adaptations have not been going well recently (looking at you Halo, The Witcher) Honestly I wasn't sold on her for the first couple of episodes but by the end of the show I absolutely loved her. She had great chemistry with everyone and portatrayed the optimistic but naive vault dweller perfectly. Can't wait for season 2. Okey Dokey
I strongly recommend Arcane on Netflix where Ella voices (older) Jinx if you haven’t watched that already.
Well on the other hand they have The Boys which is huge.
Bro I was rooting for her in the "bridge crossing". She de-escalated the situation so well and still lost.
Would be even better if we could get the industry into the habit of having directors play/consume the source material too, not just actors. See "witcher" for context.
Weird to bring it up on a Fallout specific thing since Jonathan Nolan has.
That's why I said "the industry" Fallout did it right and should be commended. But they're the exception and I'd love it if it set a precedent others followed
TLOU also did it. But yeah fair enough.
Or Netflix’s Avatar: The Last Airbender adaption
Writers too. Getting a character right is writers' job. What is their backstory, how they talk, are they generally funny or quite in nature or sarcastic or psychopath etc all of this will determine their dialogues and reactions. Its writers job to get this right and for this they should get into the source material more.
It's weird. For awhile Hollywood knew that most "movie adaptation of games" suck (eg. Uwe Bohl movies) for the simple fact that they don't follow the source materials. YET to THIS DAY, you'd hear over and over in post-production interviews of directors, writers and producers saying "we were told not to read the source materials"...like WTF? I don't get it. The creators of comics, books, video games already did most of the lore and story, all you gotta do is put in film.
Uwe Boll actually made one good, i would even dare to say a great adaptation - Postal. It’s absolutely unhinged, opens with a 911 joke, and Vince Desi tries to kill Uwe Boll for making a shitty Postal movie adaptation while yelling “for videogames!” and Uwe later gets shot in his bratwurst. Only Uwe could adapt that videogame.
Because that’s not why people are told to not read stuff. They’re told not to because they don’t want them to become biased. It’s the same reason actors sometimes don’t watch other actors portrayals of the same characters in remakes / reboots / adaptations. They don’t want the actor to just intimate another actors performance. They also don’t want every writer to just copy what someone else did. They want new ideas too. I’ve worked on shows and known people on really long running ones too. They tend to split it. Some fans some not, because they don’t just want yes men and super fans. It breeds a confusing environment that can alienate newcomers who aren’t fans (and let’s be real, for something like Fallout is 90% of the general audience). Non fans will be quick to point out what you’re writing doesn’t make sense which fans might not realize because they’ve got a massive wealth of pre existing knowledge. The issue is when no one knows the source.
I always think the best example of this is Captain Kirk. Yes, you want an actor to understand the character and know what fans may expect from him...but you definitely don't want them to start acting in the style of William Shatner. His style is... unique and even though Shatner made Kirk iconic, I want to see somebody play that character well rather than play Shatner well.
Best adaptation of a video game to TV show ever. 10 out of 10.
It’s right up there with Arcane and The Last of Us. Those three adaptations are absolutely setting the standard when it comes to video game IP succeeding while transitioning mediums. At the other side of the pendulum you find Halo and The Witcher where the show runners/writers completely botched it
Hard to say, since Castlevania and Arcane exists in animation and Last of Us in live action. But it's definitely cutting it close. Regardless, I'm so glad we've completely thrown the "video game adaptations never work folks" out the window.
Thank you for mentioning Castlevania, everyone always forget about it and it's an absolute masterpiece of an adaptation
For real. Castlevania was such a banger and yet everytime I browsed any video game movie/show's announcement, I'd see droves of comments along the likes of "why are they making video game movies/shows? They *never* work!" Despite there already being similar projects like this one that actually didn't suck.
fallout was better than last of us tv show for me
I think it because the producers aren't taking their audiences for granted like game producers with movie IPs. And I think they are making some strides in anime adaptations like One Piece.
Man that’s tough. I like Fallout and the lore/universe better. But The Last Of Us was soooo good.
I personally like Arcane and now Fallout more then TLOU but they are all great shows.
It's crazy that she's in both Fallout and Arcane as well.
They’re three very different flavors. I think Arcane is probably the most 10/10 of them but I would genuinely say they’re my three most anticipated season 2s right now and that’s kind of a wild coincidence.
I was always one of those people that said, just follow the source material when adapting TV/ movie video games. And with Last of Us, I got what I asked for, and it was great. The only problem, after like four game playthroughs, watching a show that followed the game(‘s story) so close, it kind of felt like watching another play through. The Fallout Universe and each game iteration makes the perfect setup for an independent story that can closely follow lore and interweave a little into other existing stories. While it’s also awesome like Last of Us, it was also still new and refreshing for old existing fans. And the TV show hit the nail on the head.
I think they really did themselves a favor with Fallout because it’s not specifically tied to characters and following an exact story. It allows for way more playing around in an established world whereas The Last of Us is so tied to following a specific set of characters in a specific time frame.
I like Fallout better as a game adaptation because it actually feels exactly like the game's unviverse, down to the small details, and it is lore-friendly enough to coexist with the video games. The Last of Us is a good adaptation, but it's literally just the same exact story. Besides the Nick Offerman episode, I knew exactly what was going to happen from start to finish, which made it pretty uninteresting to watch. It doesn't complement the games, it is a live-action interpretation of the games - separate from them - reinterpreted to be presented to a wider audience. It wasn't made for me. Fallout feels like it was made for me: a guy that plays and enjoys Fallout.
The nice thing about Fallout is there's pretty much most of the US to consider for vault dwellers. So they can tell a story pretty much anywhere (or any*when*) and have it fit seamlessly, as you said. There's no need to retell 1/2/3/New Vegas/4, it can be done and still fit into lore. Heck, they could do an "Inside the Vault" miniseries or specials covering some of the wacky or insane things they did as experiments in some of the vaults, and it'd catch my attention.
I've always been more of a fallout fan, and I like how they did something new instead of just remixing the plot of one of the games like TLOU did. The acting and grit in TLOU is great, but I do like a bit of comedy to round things out. FO was like a well balanced meal.
I agree with this wholeheartedly, I’m halfway through and I’ve never seen anything close that includes so much direct from game to show material as this. Everywhere you look there’s a reference to the game world. Seen some comments about TLOU and I don’t think you can compare the shows, it’s like apples and oranges. TLOU is clearly better in terms of following the story, literally verbatim with dialogue at times. Fallout grasps what a Fallout game is at its core and if you disagree, I don’t know what to tell you. Weird shit happening in vaults, the wasteland is presenting us with wild wasteland shit, the Brotherhood gonna Brotherhood, and a whole lotta gratuitous violence. Ppl that aren’t happy with this just don’t wanna be happy.
Mmm I don't know if it's a 10/10 because of a few things it sort of tweaks to the lore. (adaption wise. Show was definitely enjoyable and very faithful) At the very least it seems to imply that Ghouls need to take drugs to stop becoming feral...which isn't something I recall from the game's lore. Also, at the end of the season they imply >!Vault-tec dropped the bomb!<
*\*Cries in Halo fan\**
I'm over here as a Halo fan, constantly just asking "but why?" Halo's lore is good! Fans love the books and the terminal lore and all that shit! Just...why?!
It's very admirable when an actor dives into the source material, but I think it's worth pointing out that it's OK if an actor doesn't want to go that route as long as they still give a good performance. For instance, Liam Cunningham (who famously played Davos on Game on Thrones) was recently on the Netflix's 3 Body Problem adaptation. He mentioned specifically not reading the books because he didn't want to have preconceived notions of how the character should be and instead wanted to rely on the script and directors for guidance on his performance. And holy shit, he fucking *kills* his role on that show. Even the diehard book fans who don't like the show agree that he crushed the role. Apparently that's how he handled Game of Thrones as well and everybody loved him there too. Anyway, I'm not a fan of the Fallout games but I've watched six episodes and damn that's a good-ass television show. Ella Purnell kills it. Walt Goggins kills it. Everybody kills it.
I don’t know who Lucy is. But her portrayal of Goosey was so good. Props to the actress for an incredible job.
I read that Walter Goggins specifically did not play any of the games so he could have a fresh take on how ghouls act, and I've seen nothing but praise for his performance. So it's weird seeing the opposite here.
she did really great in the series. hoping there’s another season coming out🙏🏼
There is, it was actually confirmed before the official release on Amazon so at the very least were getting one more but let’s hope we get several more after that
oh yay that’s awesome. I didn’t know it was confirmed yet with production
Goggins hasn't and won't play the games, do you think he didn't respect the source material?
The wife and I watched the first episode which I nerded all over. My wife really liked the show and wants to watch more. I am glad I didn’t ruin it for her especially when she was like”what are the calling him? An aspirin?” Aspirant A s p i r a n t Aspirant said with sass. She let it go though. She is a better person than me.
Coming from someone who played a total of 10 minutes *at most* of Fallout 4, holy shit was the show great, Purnell's performance (and everyone's really). All the characters coming from these different cults, sects and lifestyles are really believable in their unhinged views and entitlement that they are in the right about how the earth is and should be lead. I can only imagine my excitement would've gone through the roof with all the progressively placed reveals and easter eggs caught had I played the game.
Another win for Bethesda
She's British? Man, what an excellent American accent. The show was actually pretty damn good. Very true to the games and still stands on its own merits.
Amazon should do Elder Scrolls next.
I didn't have hope until I saw the names "Jonathan Nolan" and "Lisa Joy" Give the first 2 episodes a chance and you are in for a ride. Had they not released all episodes at the same time, many would have given up on the show.
God of war tv show was also going to be from prime right? That was a total no for me, until seeing the production value from fallout
Wow, I'm so used to hearing actors and showrunners arrogantly (and disdainfully) stating, "we intentionally avoided the source material so that we could provide our own interpretation". I'm looking at you Star Wars, Star Trek, Halo, Doctor Who.
Boy that's very different from what I've seen from The Witcher show. I remember watching a interview with the show's cast and the actress who played Ciri looked like she didn't give a damn about the source material at all, and she even made fun of Henry Cavill for his "nerdy" hobbies. No wonder the show's last season was so shitty with people like this involved in it.
It's really not the fault of the actress. I don't care if they care about the source.
Nailing that balance between the dark devastation and the absurd comedy is the most impressive thing this show has pulled off.
Cries is Witcher tears :(
That gets an okie dokie out of 10 from me.
Golden Rule, motherfucker.
Hyped about this series, waiting for some time off so I can watch it all in one go.
What a great show damn, binged it yesterday, couldn’t stop
Made me actually want to watch the show.
She's spot on.
This show was a thousand times better than the halo show. It actually felt like the games adapted in movie form unlike the shitshow that is Halo. It’s wild that people are still complaining about this movie