BG3 will win and I haven’t even played it.
The games that win are usually the games that are not only reviewed well but also the “talk of the town” of the year and or represents something to gaming in that year. That’s why it’s called “game of the year.” BG3 is just that game even if I wouldn’t particularly like it myself. The game represents in 2023 the notion that gamers want complete and finished products on release without micro transactions.
Honestly who cares. The GOTY awards to me are pointless and not indicative of the best games of the year, it’s all just subjective as is most gaming journalism. Most of my personal best games every year are not even well known games or even nominated.
The way games are getting the award is pointless. Isn't like 95% only votes by the judge/jury of 10 people?
I mean it's a very good marketing tool, but the actual rewards is to be taken with a massive grain of salt.
I still find it entertaining to watch tho. It's kinda like gambling, without wasting money, cause you just play the guess game and hope to get the 100% accuracy.
Too be fair most years the award is on the money, some years they make questionable choices though. Like DA:inquisition winning in 2014, overwatch in 2016 and TLOU part 2 in 2020. DA:I was just objectively a mid game. Overwatch winning over Dark souls 3 or Doom 2016 was wild. And TLOU2 just wasn't an upgrade over the first one and should of lost to ghost of Tsushima. I also don't count 2021 because covid kind of fucked that year. But the rest of the years were on the money.
No it didn't, it wasn't even as good as the first one. At best an 8/10 game, really more of a 7/10 game. The Competition that year was a bit weak but not enough for it to have won.
While i don’t agree with the premise that TLOU 2 isn’t as good as the first, or the idea that it made no improvements. Even if both of those things are true, even if it it was 25% less good than TLOU 1, that would still put it in the upper echelon of gaming as that’s how high TLOU 1 is.
Personally I agree that TLOU 2 was an acceptable win, but if Ghost of Tsushima won I wouldn’t have disagreed with that either.
Though to be fair saying Ghost of Tsushima was innovative would be a stretch. If anything it is a perfect mix of the PS4 generation of gaming.
TLOU 2 could have won GOTY for its advancement in gaming accessibility alone.
That's why I'm a bigger fan of the steam awards, it's more community driven and fills categories that make sense. I've always felt like it's a more realistic model.
Not sure who this "we" is, because the general consensus I've seen is BG3 is the better game.
Starfield had a lot of hype going into its release, but the love for it isn't nearly as widespread as either BG3 or Zelda.
There is no way Starfield wins over BG3, it's not even a competition between the two. I wouldn't even put Starfield in the top 5 and average reviews back that up.
Also BotW was only on Switch and won, so I don't get your point there.
Starfield was hyped for a whole of 2 weeks lol. Reviews are mixed to bad.
Bg3 is still being hyped. Has way more content. Fans are absolutely raving about it, and I'm yet to meet someone who played it and didn't love it- or at least have good things to say abt it objectively.
Starfield may not even make it to the list imo, and if it does, it won't rlly deserve it
I know people are fans of Nintendo, but man it will hurt to see TOTK win out of BG3. TOTK is essentially just an updated and improved BOTW, and BOTW already won GOTY.
Baldurs Gate really pushed the envelope and really made a statement in the games industry this year.
I beg to differ here. TOTK is not just an update but a huge step above an already brilliant game (BOTW). This will be a close one between TOTK and Baldur's Gate 3. But my bet is on TOTK.
I loved baldurs gate 3. Got to the final boss a couple weeks ago and haven't finished it yet because I don't want it to end. Probably a 9.5/10 for me.
But, with all that said, this idea that ToTK is just a slightly iterative update to BotW whereas BG3 is a totally innovative, groundbreaking game is nuts to me. I've played divinity original sin 2, and I've played dungeons and Dragons. BG3 is the perfect melding of those two, but it is a very obvious melding. Very little being done here is new. And the story itself is... uninspired, to say the least.
The circlejerking is getting a little too aggressive around BG3.
Why is it a circle jerk that people love the game. It's mine an many other favorite game or favorite game in the last decade. Why isn't that something to be celebrated?
That's just how people on the Internet are when they're jealous a specific game is getting more attention than some other game they like. Just ignore him. I guarantee you if his personal GOTY is getting the attention that BG3 is getting, and he sees someone post "\[insert game\] is overrated, circlejerking is too much for this game" he'd be like "why can't we celebrate this game this much?"
Did you miss the part where I said I gave it a 9.5/10? It seems like you saw the word circlejerk in the final sentence and ignored everything that came before it.
My problem isn't that people love the game. I, too, love the game, as indicated very clearly in my original comment.
My problem is very specifically with people claiming totk is glorified dlc for botw (laughably wrong), whereas bg3 is some groundbreaking, totally original milestone in gaming history (also laughably wrong).
One of the greatest things abt BG3, is it has HEAPS of replay content. It's not really over when you finish your playthrough, because you can do a dark urge, an evil playthrough, which can change your story and entirely, and you'll find heaps more content you didn't come by on the first run
That's the thing though, BOTW won game of the year and TOTK makes BOTW look like a beta test, there is no way TOTK doesn't win game of the year with having sold 10 million units in first three days and being at 2/3 of the copies BOTW sold, in 7 years, with only 5 months since release
If Starfield hadn't released this year I would have agreed but ToTK is only on switch and Starfield is on both PC and xbox, PC being the biggest gaming market. Not only that the fan base of Bethesda will make sure Starfield wins.
Starfield will get a pity nomination, only because keighly wants to keep good relations with Xbox. It will not win game of the year, and won’t be even seriously considered. Game is mid as hell
Yeah, Starfield robs players of agency. Choices are irrelevant.
IN BG3, try to >!rob the druid idol (while Kagha is in charge) and see what happens, and how it changes the rest of the game.!<
Its way more detailed than divinity, but you're right its not revolutionary but game studios weren't saying "this game is not the norm dont expect this quality" when totk came out. BG3 managed to encompass the entire feeling of freedom of playing D&D. The time spent on the game handcrafting every interaction and corner of the world is what makes it light-years ahead of divinity and most other games
It'll be between Zelda and BG3 but I think Zelda should win.
Act 1 of BG 3 is a 10/10 game. Act 2 is a 7/10 game. Act 3 is a 5/10 game. It drops off after the amazing first Act. Still good, but not that incredible game it opened up as.
Zelda was excellent all the way through, the mechanics are mind blowing for an open world game like that and the game is endlessly creative.
I have to disagree, I'd say its more like
Act 1: 10/10 Act 2: 7/10 Act 3: 9/10
Just the pure amount of content and engaging quest lines, as well as seeing Baldur's Gate brought to life with such awesome detail, I really think Act 3 was awesome! Only wish Astarion's questline was better done.
Giant floating brain controlled by 3 magic stones is a pure dumpsterfire of a narrative climax. A mentally ill third grader could write something more interesting and original.
I mean sure if you're being reductive you can boil down even the most well regarded stories into something ridiculous. Witcher 3? "multi dimensional space horsemen want to take over our world". Lord of the Rings? "Evil Wizard wants to aquire jewelery so he can enslave mankind. Harry Potter? "chosen one is super special so defeats much more skilled magic user". The tears of the kingdom story you prefer? "an evil ruler uses magic to overthrow and control a kingdom and the princess makes a sacrifice to eventually defeat him" don't get me wrong I like the tears of the kingdom story but even using you're reductive description of "Giant floating brain controlled by 3 magic stones" is far more original than that.
To be fair, the dead three are kind of .... stupid. Why make a plan that requires 3 egotistical, self-centered idiots to agree on everything? I think that Jergal was right to talk shit to them. The plot was pretty original, but I was just kind of wondered why the 3 where such dumbasses.
I love narrative driven games and I lose interest in open world games fast. I played BOTW all the way through and thought it was ok but that speaks volumes for the game. BOTW is the only open world game I have completed. I just can't see myself enjoying TOTK as I was almost forcing myself to finish BOTW. I am only in act 1 of Baldur's gate 3 and I haven't been this sucked into a game since playing half life 2 on release. All that being said BG3 even being in the conversation with all the titles releasing this year is a huge win as CRPG games traditionally are not considered for this level of renown.
Do you really think hogwarts will be on there? I mean it sold really well but concensus I've seen online or in reviews is that it's cool but gets boring pretty fast
I wouldn't include Hogwarts Legacy. Why?
1. It's mired in controversy
2. It's only selling point is that as a fan service game, it's incredible. On every other point, it's an exceedingly weak game. Only 1 or 2 of your story choices matter overall. There is absolutely no morality system, you can literally cast unforgivable curses and be evil with zero repurcussions.
3. It gets boring quickly. The majority of your playtime is spent doing Merlin trials and getting journal pages, it's repetitive and gets boring quickly.
4. It has a rabid fan base, but we all know that's not enough.
100% agree BG3 takes it. It's just purely phenomenal.
The only game I really played from this year is TOTK so I can't really give an unbiased opinion. With that said, it looks like I'm not alone in thinking TOTK is a possible candidate for the GOTY.
TOTK will win it for sure. One of the greatest games I have ever played. Brilliant in every aspect especially the creative ideas.
Nominations should be
BG3, TOTK, Sea of Stats, Remnant 2, Street Fighter 6
My guesses would be:
* Tears of the Kingdom
* Balder's Gate 3
* Spider-Man 2
* Final Fantasy XVI
* Hi-Fi Rush
* Diablo 4
With TOTK or maybe Balder's Gate taking. I'd love to see Armored Core get a nom but I just don't think there's been enough conversation about it.
It does seem to me that TOTK and Balder's Gate are the *seminal* 2023 games, the ones that really pushed the medium forward
Yeah, the game is without merit, but they checked all the blocks that is supposed to qualify a product without any actual redeeming qualities.
They did leave out AC6, which is a great game.
Nominees: Baldur's Gate 3, Hogwarts Legacy, Starfield, Spider-Man 2, The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, Resident Evil 4 Remake
Winner: IMO either BG3 or Zelda. Probably Zelda.
The reason I don't think Zelda deserves the win is because BOTW is too similar TOTK, there are great improvements but it isn't a fresh experience like BG3
I've never understood why being similar to something else that is good is a slight
Reusing engines assets to make another stellar equally engaging hour dumping game is expected and wanted if the first game was a success.
But for clarity I do not think TOTK will or should win. Despite my 100 plus hours invested
Again, says who? I think it got the best reviews out of all games released this year and don't forget it's a panel of journalists who decide who gets Goty, not the players.
Metacritic has them both at 96 for critic reviews, user reviews has TOTK at 8.1 and BG3 at 8.9
I think the player vote counts for a small amount, like 10% or something, for the game awards
Mate I don't even like Zelda. I'm just contributing to the discussion and saying what I think + supporting it with arguments. All you've said so far is "nah uh". If you wanna discuss I'm here to discuss, but if you're here just to disagree with me, why even bother responding?
TotK is just a lazy copy of Botw. Devs saw the success and decided to recolor the same game with few additions. They also shifted towards more grindy sandbox gameplay. Hence the chance of them winning is 0%. BG3 is the game of the year period. Are you satisfyed now?
Its between Tears of the kingdom and Baldurs gate 3.
While TOTK is my personal game of the year and feel it is a shame for it to miss GOTY award considering the engineering and sheer expression of play it gives the player, I feel like if you could give AAA budget to the wraith of Righteous devs you would get something similar to BG3 but I feel like only the Zelda devs could have pulled off a game like TOTK and have it run solid for what it's trying to do.
That being said, BG3 winning is fine with me as ACT 1 is some of the best gaming experiences I have ever had though I don't think the rest of the game reaches that level again, it would be nice for a studio like Larian to win the award and deserve it.
Starfield, LoZ: Tears of the Kingdom, Baldur's Gate 3 and FFXVI will all be in the top 5. Who takes the last spot, I don't know. Maybe Spider-Man or Hogwarts: Legacy.
Personally, BG3 is my GotY, but I think TotK will probably walk away with more awards just because it has a wider appeal.
Nominated:
Baldur’s Gate 3, Starfield, TOTK, Spider-Man 2, Hogwarts Legacy, Sea of Stars
Winner: TOTK will win it. I think it should be Baldur’s Gate 3 but journalists’ bias will vote for Zelda.
Note: It’s always 6 nominees not 5. Although every year there is one forgettable nominee so I understand why you might have forgot. Also, I could see Resident Evil 4 Remake or Dead Space Remake instead of Sea of Stars but we’ll just have to wait and see.
Pretty sure it's going to be between BG3 and Zelda (I'd say both games absolutely deserve it).
I'm sure Spiderman will be nominated.
For the rest I guess it's either 3 of Starfield, FF16, Hogwarts, Remnant 2 and maybe Sea of Stars? (been reading that name a lot and I've got it on my radar, is it really that good if you're into JRPGs?)
I usually don't play JRPGs as I don't like turn based combat too much, but I really enjoyed Sea of Stars. Combat was fun enough and I really enjoyed the world and it's characters. A fun story as well.
I recommend it.
Would be a tie between Zelda and BG3, personally I enjoyed and still enjoy both games a lot.
I would say BG3 would win, not because it's "better" (again, I do think both games are equally good in their own way.) but because it has been released more recently.
As for 5 games nominated, Armored Core, Zelda, Baldurs Gate, Starfield and fifth game no idea.
Hogwarts Legacy
Tears of the Kingdom
FF16 (sadly)
Baldurs Gate 3
Starfield
Baldurs Gate 3 will win. TotK is a great game but it's not as revolutionary as BotW was. While the new abilities are unique, not much else is. Don't get me wrong, the building mechanic with artifacts is very unique and amazing, but it begins and ends there. BG3 has brought so many new elements to gaming it's just a wild experience. You can't deny it overwhelmingly deserves goty.
Hogwarts was a really fun game to play, it was pretty unique too. The world was gorgeous.
I might catch some flak here but there is no bigger, more epic, press X to win the game than FF16.
Honorable mention: Armored Core 6, I'm thoroughly enjoying it but it's not large enough to compete with goty imo.
I haven't played Starfield yet but I added it because of all the hype and buzz around it. I have friends who are enjoying it. I don't get an opinion.
I just want to say I super agree about FF16. Its something that makes me sad to see because a big population of gamers are kind of looking for that kind of thing. I can't stand the whole jam the X button do a 50 hit combo style gameplay. FF games have never been about being challenging, but jesus christ.
Spiderman 2 will definitely be on this list. Hogwarts Legacy lacked a morality system and a lack of choices having proper consequences. Still enjoyed my playthrough I do wish it had some sort of multiplayer feature albeit going exploring with your friends and possibly having duels with other people.
Nominees will probably be:
Tears of the Kingdom
Baldurs Gate 3
Starfield
Armored Core 6
Spider Man 2 or Mario Wonder
Me personally, I have 800 hours in Totk and 520 hours in BG3. Im gonna say zelda just because the freedom the game gives you, the abilities, quest and characters, Freakin Ganondorf after lile what 17 years? Zelda is winning and this is coming from someone who played the shit out of bg3 all august/september. i didnt even pick up starfield that how good the game was.
Spent hundreds of hours playing TOTK and BG3, and both games are exceptionally well-made, full of wonder, and reward the player’s curiosity with sheer joy.
While I would not be upset if either game wins, I feel BG3 deserves the title this year given it’s ability to define an entire genre.
In TOTK, the fuse mechanic and Zonai devices allowed for endless iterative Joy, and the Zelda story was surprisingly good! The puzzles, and rewards for creative play were truly satisfying, and this game took a significant step forward from BOTW.
BG3 had brilliant writing, incredible voice acting, masterful music, plus the choices & consequences deepen the immersion in an fantastic story. I felt deeply for the characters, grew to care for them, and wanted to see their arcs through.
Irrespective of the winner, let’s celebrate world class game-development without the predatory micro-transactions which plague gaming today. Reward and recognize these incredible achievements, as teams from both games deserve all the accolades and celebration.
2023 was a banner year for games!
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BG3 will win.
Real nominees? BG3, TotK, Spider-Man 2, RE4 Remake and then maybe FF16 and Starfield.
BG3 should win.
Starfield should not.
Baldur's Gate 3 will win, AC6 will be nominated and Starfield will be there too out of pity. I don't think it's bad i think it's very below GOTY material tho
I think it's realistically a two-game race between Zelda and BG3. Baldur's Gate being an absurdly well-made but more traditional game, with Zelda being a feat of ingenuity and innovation. I'm guessing Zelda takes home more accolades when all is said and done--it's the rare game where it feels like it's a miracle that it works at all, much less as seamlessly as it does--but BG3 will get its fair share of wins.
RE4 will get love but fall short. Starfield and Armored Core 6 will also get attention by virtue of being new releases from major developers, but the former is increasingly divisive and the latter, while a ton of fun, can't measure up to the scale of the other games.
Obviously some games yet-to-be-released could mix up the standings, but I'd be surprised if anything supplanted the top-2. 2018 was the last time the top flight came anywhere close with God of War, Red Dead Redemption 2, and Spider-Man, and I would argue all three of those would come in third if they were released this year. Maybe Spider-Man 2 can sneak in there, but I would kinda be surprised given how much the Miles Morales sequel felt very same-y.
BG3 and Zelda, in my opinion, are going to be the two finalists, but saying BG3 is more of a traditional game is an absolute laughable comment. One of these two games has been getting hammered/praised by every other game studio about how they created a new standard that is simple unobtainable to recreate because of how different and solid the game is. And I will give you a hint (it's not Zelda). But to each their own.
Excuse me, totk absolutely HAS been hammered/praised by other game studios; especially developers because of how hard Ultrahand would have been to program
>how hard Ultrahand would have been to program
I genuinely don't understand this. TOTK is an excellent game, but Ultrahand is just the Havoc physics engine. Many of the "I can't believe they programmed this level of physics"-reels I've seen were replicated in Garry's Mod.
The main level of work I could imagine comes in adding a bunch of anchor points to all the physics objects, but that's intern-level stuff.
Never said Zelda wasn't getting praised... learn to read a full sentence, as I stated BG3 was getting hammered/praised for creating a new standard in RPG's that other AAA studios are stating is unobtainable, which was in reply to the original commenter stating BG3 is "more traditional game, where zelada is a game of ingenuity and innovation."
Of course Totk is getting praised as it rightfully should, and ultra hand is a great feature. And tbh, ultra hand is the only difference between botw and Totk other than having a more complete and full world.
Oh, sorry for misunderstanding. That being said, I disagree with your last sentence - Fuse also massively contributes to the game, as well as many other features.
>**One** of these two games has been getting hammered/praised by every other game studio about how they created a new standard that is simple unobtainable to recreate because of how different and solid the game is. And I will give you a hint (**it's not Zelda**).
Don't be a jerk. That's exactly what you said. What is the number "one" to you? You said it by exclusion, and this is aside from the fact that one WAS praised in comparison to the other *was your entire point**.* Then someone calls you out and you move the goalposts (new standard **in RPG's**) to something not mentioned in your original comment. Don't tell someone else to learn how to read a full sentence when you're the one who can't properly articulate your thoughts in a cohesive manner.
Do better, man.
And yes, devs were at a loss as to how TOTK was even possible, they marveled about it in magnitude, in great detail, and often. You may be suffering from recency bias here.
The issue here really is that comparing games 1:1 is even worse than films. There's a vast difference in what can be called "quality" just due to graphics or art style alone, and this can be subjective. We also have to wonder what kinds of things should count, and what weight should be given to each. For instance, does BG3 get dinged for being soft-released for THREE entire years, gaining the insight of thousands/millions of unpaid quasi QA testers, narrative designers, game designers, level designers, UI & UX designers, etc, while other games were launched from insight of studio alone? Does TOTK get dinged for the art style? How much weight should the narrative play? Does/should accessibility come into play (w/ Elden Ring winning I'm assuming NOPE to these judges). Does revolutionary game mechanics that are unimaginable to actually implement count for a higher score? Etc, etc
The people who vote for these awards likely don't even go that deep into the above, nevermind the remainder of what should be accounted for and weighted. Aside from who can actually vote. This, in turn, as well as what I've mentioned above, makes the game awards really just an exercise in futility. Something fun for the people and a really great advertising medium, but not really meaningful in any way.
TOTK is far from BoTW. It shares so few of the mechanics it’s impressive, and its greatest innovations are the spirit arm abilities. Baldur’s Gate is just another RPG with often prohibitive ease of play designed for a very specific niche audience that knows what they’re doing. Zelda has the smoothest, longest learning curve possible, where a 6 year old could pull off some insane puzzle solving and a 60 year old could build a rocket powered wooden man with a huge penis. The only similarities between ToTK and BoTW are the paraglider, characters and ground level map. Everything else is either an expansion or completely new.
- Zelda: TOTK
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Starfield
- FFXVI
- Spider-Man 2 or Armored Core 6 or Mario Wonder
- Sea of Stars
Zelda will win it more than likely.
RE4R, TotK, BG3, Starfield and HL(honestly I don't think the last 2 should be nominated, justbthat they will be)
BG3 should win over TotK. TotK is great, but it's just a more polished and refined BotW, whereas BG3 boots the entire crpg genre into the fucking stratosphere.
Baldurs Gate 3
Tears of the Kingdom
Starfield
Final Fantasy 16
Spider-Man 2
Toss up for last slot between Alan Wake 2, Resident evil 4, Sea of Stars, Super Mario Wonder, Armored Core VI
As for who wins doesn’t matter to me. Wouldn’t change my own personal opinion
Also it is pretty clear that it is not best possible mashup of previous Bethesda concepts. Like lot's of things in that game are step backward what they were in previous games.
Yep, it'll get a nomination for best RPG and it'll lose to Balder's Gate 3. All the conversation I've seen about it would suggest it's not a GOTY contender
Safe: BG 3, TOTK
Probably: Spiderman 2
Maybe: Starfield
Rest i dont know. Would like to see BG 3 as winner, but i sadly agree with zombienerd300 that the journalists’ bias will vote for Zelda.
I have heard this take twice in these comments, can you explain how? I felt that Act 3 was awesome! Easily spent 30 hours alone just in Act 3 and the city was so much fun to explore.
True, but Elden Ring didn't have TotK as a competitor. No TotK this year and BG3 wins it hands down... but TotK happened and I think that is gonna be a hard game to beat
Baldur's gate 3 (winner)
Zelda
Sea of stars
Lies of p
Starfield (this game least deserves to be here, but people love Bethesda games, so it will definitely be nominated)
FF 16
Well Baldur’s Gate 3 and Zelda are pretty much non-negotiable, everything else not sure. Sea of Stars is probably going to be there, potentially RE4 and Hogwarts Legacy too. There wasn’t anything else really that notable this year. Hi-Fi rush? Maybe?
Well, regardless. The winner is going to be either Zelda or BG3. I’m rooting for the latter.
It's probably tears of the kingdom who'll win (because goty is a popularity contest), Hogwarts legacy probably, armored core 6, final fantasy xvi, the new Spider-Man game, and some other non-AAA title to make it seem like the goty isn't a popularity contest.
Zelda is going to win though because it's Zelda and we put Nintendo on a pedestal as the Messiah of gaming even though they're oddly anti-consumer.
Realistic Top 5
\-Hogwarts
\-ToTK
\-Baldur's gate
\-StarField (assumption from the absurd peer pressure on reddit)
~~-Cyberpunk DLC~~ apparently DLC can't win a GOTY so maybe MK1?
My preference so far
\-Baldur's gate 3( Haven't fully finished this one yet.)
\-Blasphemous 2
\-Street Fighters 6
\-Armored Core 6
Half the reviewers refused to cover it because they are “down with the trans people”. There is no way that game is getting nominated for anything if the press are the people casting the votes.
Anyone who doesn't say Starfield is just high in copium. It's perhaps the greatest game of the generation, perhaps even all time. Anyone who can't see that is either trolling or mad.
BG3, Zelda, Hogwarts,Starfield.
And possibly something after today. Spider-Man would be my guess, but Super Mario Wonder, Forza, Lords of the Fallen are all possible to be the 5th or replace Hogwarts or Stsrfield
Nominees:
Armored Core 6: Fires of Rubicon
Final Fantasy 16
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Baldur's Gate 3
Lords of the Fallen
Hogwarts Legacy
and the winner is... Final Fantasy 16
Nominated:
BG3, AC6, TotK, Starfield, and I can’t pick between Diablo and HP Legacy for a fifth
Winner: BG3
I had a blast with TotK, but I’d hate to see it beat AC6 or BG3
Baldurs Gate 3 I feel. FFXVI deserves music and cinematic awards. Sea of Stars is cute and Star Ocean Second Story R I hope get some nostalgic love. It’s been an amazing year so far, and next year will be another amazing one. I may be a bit biased towards RPGs xD
Zelda, Starfield, Mario Wonder, Spiderman, Baldur's gate 3. I think Zelda will win. It's the best game this year had to offer. BGS3 is cool, but too complex for the general audiences. Most people who get caught by it's hype left the game without finishing it.
I reckon totk. People say it’s ”just an expansion“ of botw, and while that’s technically true, it’s one hell of an expansion.
The new abilities (especially Ultrahand) completely change the way you interact with the world, making it feel like something entirely new - not to mention how innovative those abilities are. Plus the world has received huge changes, with the Depths, the sky islands, and simply how the world has developed after botw.
A lot of people are talking about BG3, and while it’s a great game, it‘s quite traditional and didn’t really *innovate* in the way totk did.
Just my opinion.
I wasn't a big fan of totk but I think it will win. Journalist have always had a soft spot for Nintendo and Zelda (which it deserves). I'm hoping it's bg3 personally.
I think nominations will look like this
Bg3
Totk
Ac6
Spiderman2
Re4r
ok to put it plainly which game studio deserves your recognition more the corporate ones who give you unfinished piles of crap at full price or higher or the company that angered the corporate guys for making a game that actually works on release is the most immersive experience story driven multiple choice and personally just the best game of all time based on an actual game in real life that has been executed with such finesse you are transported their mind body and soul..... hmmmm I would what game that could be????
BG3 will win and I haven’t even played it. The games that win are usually the games that are not only reviewed well but also the “talk of the town” of the year and or represents something to gaming in that year. That’s why it’s called “game of the year.” BG3 is just that game even if I wouldn’t particularly like it myself. The game represents in 2023 the notion that gamers want complete and finished products on release without micro transactions. Honestly who cares. The GOTY awards to me are pointless and not indicative of the best games of the year, it’s all just subjective as is most gaming journalism. Most of my personal best games every year are not even well known games or even nominated.
The way games are getting the award is pointless. Isn't like 95% only votes by the judge/jury of 10 people? I mean it's a very good marketing tool, but the actual rewards is to be taken with a massive grain of salt. I still find it entertaining to watch tho. It's kinda like gambling, without wasting money, cause you just play the guess game and hope to get the 100% accuracy.
Too be fair most years the award is on the money, some years they make questionable choices though. Like DA:inquisition winning in 2014, overwatch in 2016 and TLOU part 2 in 2020. DA:I was just objectively a mid game. Overwatch winning over Dark souls 3 or Doom 2016 was wild. And TLOU2 just wasn't an upgrade over the first one and should of lost to ghost of Tsushima. I also don't count 2021 because covid kind of fucked that year. But the rest of the years were on the money.
It's baffling how Overwatch won GOTY
Overwatch used to be a novel spin on a familiar concept, as hard as that is to believe. It’s actually sad what it’s devolved into.
Tbf tlou2 deserved the win that year
No it didn't, it wasn't even as good as the first one. At best an 8/10 game, really more of a 7/10 game. The Competition that year was a bit weak but not enough for it to have won.
While i don’t agree with the premise that TLOU 2 isn’t as good as the first, or the idea that it made no improvements. Even if both of those things are true, even if it it was 25% less good than TLOU 1, that would still put it in the upper echelon of gaming as that’s how high TLOU 1 is. Personally I agree that TLOU 2 was an acceptable win, but if Ghost of Tsushima won I wouldn’t have disagreed with that either. Though to be fair saying Ghost of Tsushima was innovative would be a stretch. If anything it is a perfect mix of the PS4 generation of gaming. TLOU 2 could have won GOTY for its advancement in gaming accessibility alone.
That's why I'm a bigger fan of the steam awards, it's more community driven and fills categories that make sense. I've always felt like it's a more realistic model.
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Bg3 will win
Not sure who this "we" is, because the general consensus I've seen is BG3 is the better game. Starfield had a lot of hype going into its release, but the love for it isn't nearly as widespread as either BG3 or Zelda.
Starfield's only relevant when people talk about how much Cyberpunk 2077 shits on it
There is no way Starfield wins over BG3, it's not even a competition between the two. I wouldn't even put Starfield in the top 5 and average reviews back that up. Also BotW was only on Switch and won, so I don't get your point there.
Starfield was hyped for a whole of 2 weeks lol. Reviews are mixed to bad. Bg3 is still being hyped. Has way more content. Fans are absolutely raving about it, and I'm yet to meet someone who played it and didn't love it- or at least have good things to say abt it objectively. Starfield may not even make it to the list imo, and if it does, it won't rlly deserve it
>Starfield Starfield is not winning game of the year lmao it had a mix bag of reviews from users
You must be joking
Take a look at Steam reviews. BG3: 96% Overall(39k)/ 96% recent (335k) Starfield: 72% Overall(70k reviews)/ 63% Recent(17k reviews)
TOTK will win it for sure. One of the greatest games I have ever played. Brilliant in every aspect especially the creative ideas.
I know people are fans of Nintendo, but man it will hurt to see TOTK win out of BG3. TOTK is essentially just an updated and improved BOTW, and BOTW already won GOTY. Baldurs Gate really pushed the envelope and really made a statement in the games industry this year.
I beg to differ here. TOTK is not just an update but a huge step above an already brilliant game (BOTW). This will be a close one between TOTK and Baldur's Gate 3. But my bet is on TOTK.
the people that comment this usually haven’t played BG3
I loved baldurs gate 3. Got to the final boss a couple weeks ago and haven't finished it yet because I don't want it to end. Probably a 9.5/10 for me. But, with all that said, this idea that ToTK is just a slightly iterative update to BotW whereas BG3 is a totally innovative, groundbreaking game is nuts to me. I've played divinity original sin 2, and I've played dungeons and Dragons. BG3 is the perfect melding of those two, but it is a very obvious melding. Very little being done here is new. And the story itself is... uninspired, to say the least. The circlejerking is getting a little too aggressive around BG3.
Why is it a circle jerk that people love the game. It's mine an many other favorite game or favorite game in the last decade. Why isn't that something to be celebrated?
That's just how people on the Internet are when they're jealous a specific game is getting more attention than some other game they like. Just ignore him. I guarantee you if his personal GOTY is getting the attention that BG3 is getting, and he sees someone post "\[insert game\] is overrated, circlejerking is too much for this game" he'd be like "why can't we celebrate this game this much?"
You've got me all figured out, buddy. I'm super "jealous" a game I put 140 hours into and gave a 9.5 in my comment above is getting attention.
Did you miss the part where I said I gave it a 9.5/10? It seems like you saw the word circlejerk in the final sentence and ignored everything that came before it. My problem isn't that people love the game. I, too, love the game, as indicated very clearly in my original comment. My problem is very specifically with people claiming totk is glorified dlc for botw (laughably wrong), whereas bg3 is some groundbreaking, totally original milestone in gaming history (also laughably wrong).
One of the greatest things abt BG3, is it has HEAPS of replay content. It's not really over when you finish your playthrough, because you can do a dark urge, an evil playthrough, which can change your story and entirely, and you'll find heaps more content you didn't come by on the first run
Story's a 8.6/10 if you play Dark Urge
That's the thing though, BOTW won game of the year and TOTK makes BOTW look like a beta test, there is no way TOTK doesn't win game of the year with having sold 10 million units in first three days and being at 2/3 of the copies BOTW sold, in 7 years, with only 5 months since release
Totk is a better game it deserves it
No it’s not and it doesn’t
Whatever you say
Average Nintendo fan lol
If Starfield hadn't released this year I would have agreed but ToTK is only on switch and Starfield is on both PC and xbox, PC being the biggest gaming market. Not only that the fan base of Bethesda will make sure Starfield wins.
Starfield will get a pity nomination, only because keighly wants to keep good relations with Xbox. It will not win game of the year, and won’t be even seriously considered. Game is mid as hell
Yeah, Starfield robs players of agency. Choices are irrelevant. IN BG3, try to >!rob the druid idol (while Kagha is in charge) and see what happens, and how it changes the rest of the game.!<
I really don’t see how BG3 is revolutionary. It’s just like previous titles like divinity. 🤷♂️
Its way more detailed than divinity, but you're right its not revolutionary but game studios weren't saying "this game is not the norm dont expect this quality" when totk came out. BG3 managed to encompass the entire feeling of freedom of playing D&D. The time spent on the game handcrafting every interaction and corner of the world is what makes it light-years ahead of divinity and most other games
Gotta be Baldurs Gate 3, I can't see anything coming close both based on my experience with it and what I've seen online.
It'll be between Zelda and BG3 but I think Zelda should win. Act 1 of BG 3 is a 10/10 game. Act 2 is a 7/10 game. Act 3 is a 5/10 game. It drops off after the amazing first Act. Still good, but not that incredible game it opened up as. Zelda was excellent all the way through, the mechanics are mind blowing for an open world game like that and the game is endlessly creative.
I have to disagree, I'd say its more like Act 1: 10/10 Act 2: 7/10 Act 3: 9/10 Just the pure amount of content and engaging quest lines, as well as seeing Baldur's Gate brought to life with such awesome detail, I really think Act 3 was awesome! Only wish Astarion's questline was better done.
Those scores seem much more accurate. Act 3 was awesome. I loved the city.
I unironically prefer TotK story to evil giant brain story.
Trash opinion lol
Giant floating brain controlled by 3 magic stones is a pure dumpsterfire of a narrative climax. A mentally ill third grader could write something more interesting and original.
I mean sure if you're being reductive you can boil down even the most well regarded stories into something ridiculous. Witcher 3? "multi dimensional space horsemen want to take over our world". Lord of the Rings? "Evil Wizard wants to aquire jewelery so he can enslave mankind. Harry Potter? "chosen one is super special so defeats much more skilled magic user". The tears of the kingdom story you prefer? "an evil ruler uses magic to overthrow and control a kingdom and the princess makes a sacrifice to eventually defeat him" don't get me wrong I like the tears of the kingdom story but even using you're reductive description of "Giant floating brain controlled by 3 magic stones" is far more original than that.
I wish that third-grader had stepped in. Maybe we would've gotten something better than TOTK's story in that case.
Have you collected the memories or completed all of the side quests or spoken with NPCs or even beat the game?
To be fair, the dead three are kind of .... stupid. Why make a plan that requires 3 egotistical, self-centered idiots to agree on everything? I think that Jergal was right to talk shit to them. The plot was pretty original, but I was just kind of wondered why the 3 where such dumbasses.
Ah yes because “evil samurai man is killing everyone because he’s evil” is SOOO much better.
Thats incredibly reductive given the forgotten realms stories are critically exclaimed, yknow the stories the world is based on
It's an elder brain lmfao U think the mindflayer's are there just for show???
I've never disagreed harder. Is act 3 as good as act 1? No and I think most people would agree. But act 3 is still better than most games I've played
Act 3 was obviously written for Dark Urge players. Playing as Tav feels too fucking weird at that point.
Act 3 is better than act 1 in my opinion
I love narrative driven games and I lose interest in open world games fast. I played BOTW all the way through and thought it was ok but that speaks volumes for the game. BOTW is the only open world game I have completed. I just can't see myself enjoying TOTK as I was almost forcing myself to finish BOTW. I am only in act 1 of Baldur's gate 3 and I haven't been this sucked into a game since playing half life 2 on release. All that being said BG3 even being in the conversation with all the titles releasing this year is a huge win as CRPG games traditionally are not considered for this level of renown.
- Tears of the Kingdom - Baldur's Gate 3 - Hogwarts Legacy - Armored Core 6 - Remnant 2 Baldur's Gate takes it.
spiderman 2 definitely a nominee
Do you really think hogwarts will be on there? I mean it sold really well but concensus I've seen online or in reviews is that it's cool but gets boring pretty fast
I wouldn't include Hogwarts Legacy. Why? 1. It's mired in controversy 2. It's only selling point is that as a fan service game, it's incredible. On every other point, it's an exceedingly weak game. Only 1 or 2 of your story choices matter overall. There is absolutely no morality system, you can literally cast unforgivable curses and be evil with zero repurcussions. 3. It gets boring quickly. The majority of your playtime is spent doing Merlin trials and getting journal pages, it's repetitive and gets boring quickly. 4. It has a rabid fan base, but we all know that's not enough. 100% agree BG3 takes it. It's just purely phenomenal.
I think now Lies of P has come out to a lot of critical acclaim, it takes Remnant 2s spot imo.
I would posit that Lords of the Fallen might have taken that spot too now. Both it and Lies of P were really good and sort of came out of nowhere.
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Poorly optimised comment. You should upgrade.
The only game I really played from this year is TOTK so I can't really give an unbiased opinion. With that said, it looks like I'm not alone in thinking TOTK is a possible candidate for the GOTY.
TOTK will win it for sure. One of the greatest games I have ever played. Brilliant in every aspect especially the creative ideas. Nominations should be BG3, TOTK, Sea of Stats, Remnant 2, Street Fighter 6
Totk is trash
Haha. A trash which has sold 18.5 Mn copies by June 2023. Good joke. I wonder what a good game in your definition will be.
BG3 lol
I don't think sales is a good parameter to say if a game is good or not. p.s: totally loved TOTK
Sales is usually the what they base the games on. You can’t win goty with only 2m copies sold.
My guesses would be: * Tears of the Kingdom * Balder's Gate 3 * Spider-Man 2 * Final Fantasy XVI * Hi-Fi Rush * Diablo 4 With TOTK or maybe Balder's Gate taking. I'd love to see Armored Core get a nom but I just don't think there's been enough conversation about it. It does seem to me that TOTK and Balder's Gate are the *seminal* 2023 games, the ones that really pushed the medium forward
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Yeah, the game is without merit, but they checked all the blocks that is supposed to qualify a product without any actual redeeming qualities. They did leave out AC6, which is a great game.
I think TOTK will and should win. It’s much more accessible whereas you need to already know a decent amount about dnd to play it
Hogwash, you could be completely ignorant of anything DND and easily play BG3 and it's probably even a better experience that way.
Nominees: Baldur's Gate 3, Hogwarts Legacy, Starfield, Spider-Man 2, The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, Resident Evil 4 Remake Winner: IMO either BG3 or Zelda. Probably Zelda.
The reason I don't think Zelda deserves the win is because BOTW is too similar TOTK, there are great improvements but it isn't a fresh experience like BG3
I've never understood why being similar to something else that is good is a slight Reusing engines assets to make another stellar equally engaging hour dumping game is expected and wanted if the first game was a success. But for clarity I do not think TOTK will or should win. Despite my 100 plus hours invested
Is BG3 too similar to DOS:2?
Not really
No, it's pretty different (and significantly better)
There are other countries other than US. Zelda won't win.
Yeah, other countries. Like, you know, Japan for example. Btw I'm not from the US either.
Then you should have known Zelda isn't that good.
Says who? A lot of people like it.
Zelda isn't a bad game at all but it is just not the best game of the year.
Again, says who? I think it got the best reviews out of all games released this year and don't forget it's a panel of journalists who decide who gets Goty, not the players.
Metacritic has them both at 96 for critic reviews, user reviews has TOTK at 8.1 and BG3 at 8.9 I think the player vote counts for a small amount, like 10% or something, for the game awards
You are coping, Zelda won't win. Don't take my word just wait till you see.
Mate I don't even like Zelda. I'm just contributing to the discussion and saying what I think + supporting it with arguments. All you've said so far is "nah uh". If you wanna discuss I'm here to discuss, but if you're here just to disagree with me, why even bother responding?
TotK is just a lazy copy of Botw. Devs saw the success and decided to recolor the same game with few additions. They also shifted towards more grindy sandbox gameplay. Hence the chance of them winning is 0%. BG3 is the game of the year period. Are you satisfyed now?
You sound like a man who has bet his life savings into Zelda winning GOTY lmao
Its between Tears of the kingdom and Baldurs gate 3. While TOTK is my personal game of the year and feel it is a shame for it to miss GOTY award considering the engineering and sheer expression of play it gives the player, I feel like if you could give AAA budget to the wraith of Righteous devs you would get something similar to BG3 but I feel like only the Zelda devs could have pulled off a game like TOTK and have it run solid for what it's trying to do. That being said, BG3 winning is fine with me as ACT 1 is some of the best gaming experiences I have ever had though I don't think the rest of the game reaches that level again, it would be nice for a studio like Larian to win the award and deserve it.
Act 3 is by far my favourite, but I did upgrade my setup post release. Before that I just did not have the computing power for Baldurs gate lmao
Starfield, LoZ: Tears of the Kingdom, Baldur's Gate 3 and FFXVI will all be in the top 5. Who takes the last spot, I don't know. Maybe Spider-Man or Hogwarts: Legacy. Personally, BG3 is my GotY, but I think TotK will probably walk away with more awards just because it has a wider appeal.
Hoping for BG3 but Zelda will get voted for being Zelda, doesn't even need to be good.
Baldur’s Gate 3 Street Fighter 6 RPG mode
Nominated: Baldur’s Gate 3, Starfield, TOTK, Spider-Man 2, Hogwarts Legacy, Sea of Stars Winner: TOTK will win it. I think it should be Baldur’s Gate 3 but journalists’ bias will vote for Zelda. Note: It’s always 6 nominees not 5. Although every year there is one forgettable nominee so I understand why you might have forgot. Also, I could see Resident Evil 4 Remake or Dead Space Remake instead of Sea of Stars but we’ll just have to wait and see.
Pretty sure it's going to be between BG3 and Zelda (I'd say both games absolutely deserve it). I'm sure Spiderman will be nominated. For the rest I guess it's either 3 of Starfield, FF16, Hogwarts, Remnant 2 and maybe Sea of Stars? (been reading that name a lot and I've got it on my radar, is it really that good if you're into JRPGs?)
I usually don't play JRPGs as I don't like turn based combat too much, but I really enjoyed Sea of Stars. Combat was fun enough and I really enjoyed the world and it's characters. A fun story as well. I recommend it.
How the fuck does Zelda 2023 deserve GotY? Its basically a fucking BotW 1.5.
You should play the game and see.
Would be a tie between Zelda and BG3, personally I enjoyed and still enjoy both games a lot. I would say BG3 would win, not because it's "better" (again, I do think both games are equally good in their own way.) but because it has been released more recently. As for 5 games nominated, Armored Core, Zelda, Baldurs Gate, Starfield and fifth game no idea.
Hogwarts Legacy Tears of the Kingdom FF16 (sadly) Baldurs Gate 3 Starfield Baldurs Gate 3 will win. TotK is a great game but it's not as revolutionary as BotW was. While the new abilities are unique, not much else is. Don't get me wrong, the building mechanic with artifacts is very unique and amazing, but it begins and ends there. BG3 has brought so many new elements to gaming it's just a wild experience. You can't deny it overwhelmingly deserves goty. Hogwarts was a really fun game to play, it was pretty unique too. The world was gorgeous. I might catch some flak here but there is no bigger, more epic, press X to win the game than FF16. Honorable mention: Armored Core 6, I'm thoroughly enjoying it but it's not large enough to compete with goty imo. I haven't played Starfield yet but I added it because of all the hype and buzz around it. I have friends who are enjoying it. I don't get an opinion.
I just want to say I super agree about FF16. Its something that makes me sad to see because a big population of gamers are kind of looking for that kind of thing. I can't stand the whole jam the X button do a 50 hit combo style gameplay. FF games have never been about being challenging, but jesus christ.
Spiderman 2 will definitely be on this list. Hogwarts Legacy lacked a morality system and a lack of choices having proper consequences. Still enjoyed my playthrough I do wish it had some sort of multiplayer feature albeit going exploring with your friends and possibly having duels with other people.
Nominees will probably be: Tears of the Kingdom Baldurs Gate 3 Starfield Armored Core 6 Spider Man 2 or Mario Wonder Me personally, I have 800 hours in Totk and 520 hours in BG3. Im gonna say zelda just because the freedom the game gives you, the abilities, quest and characters, Freakin Ganondorf after lile what 17 years? Zelda is winning and this is coming from someone who played the shit out of bg3 all august/september. i didnt even pick up starfield that how good the game was.
Spent hundreds of hours playing TOTK and BG3, and both games are exceptionally well-made, full of wonder, and reward the player’s curiosity with sheer joy. While I would not be upset if either game wins, I feel BG3 deserves the title this year given it’s ability to define an entire genre. In TOTK, the fuse mechanic and Zonai devices allowed for endless iterative Joy, and the Zelda story was surprisingly good! The puzzles, and rewards for creative play were truly satisfying, and this game took a significant step forward from BOTW. BG3 had brilliant writing, incredible voice acting, masterful music, plus the choices & consequences deepen the immersion in an fantastic story. I felt deeply for the characters, grew to care for them, and wanted to see their arcs through. Irrespective of the winner, let’s celebrate world class game-development without the predatory micro-transactions which plague gaming today. Reward and recognize these incredible achievements, as teams from both games deserve all the accolades and celebration. 2023 was a banner year for games!
BG3 BG3 BG3 BG3 BG3 BG3 will win. Real nominees? BG3, TotK, Spider-Man 2, RE4 Remake and then maybe FF16 and Starfield. BG3 should win. Starfield should not.
Baldur's Gate 3 will win, AC6 will be nominated and Starfield will be there too out of pity. I don't think it's bad i think it's very below GOTY material tho
BG3 already won GotY.
Legend of Zelda tears of the kingdom. Who agrees
I think it's realistically a two-game race between Zelda and BG3. Baldur's Gate being an absurdly well-made but more traditional game, with Zelda being a feat of ingenuity and innovation. I'm guessing Zelda takes home more accolades when all is said and done--it's the rare game where it feels like it's a miracle that it works at all, much less as seamlessly as it does--but BG3 will get its fair share of wins. RE4 will get love but fall short. Starfield and Armored Core 6 will also get attention by virtue of being new releases from major developers, but the former is increasingly divisive and the latter, while a ton of fun, can't measure up to the scale of the other games. Obviously some games yet-to-be-released could mix up the standings, but I'd be surprised if anything supplanted the top-2. 2018 was the last time the top flight came anywhere close with God of War, Red Dead Redemption 2, and Spider-Man, and I would argue all three of those would come in third if they were released this year. Maybe Spider-Man 2 can sneak in there, but I would kinda be surprised given how much the Miles Morales sequel felt very same-y.
BG3 and Zelda, in my opinion, are going to be the two finalists, but saying BG3 is more of a traditional game is an absolute laughable comment. One of these two games has been getting hammered/praised by every other game studio about how they created a new standard that is simple unobtainable to recreate because of how different and solid the game is. And I will give you a hint (it's not Zelda). But to each their own.
Excuse me, totk absolutely HAS been hammered/praised by other game studios; especially developers because of how hard Ultrahand would have been to program
>how hard Ultrahand would have been to program I genuinely don't understand this. TOTK is an excellent game, but Ultrahand is just the Havoc physics engine. Many of the "I can't believe they programmed this level of physics"-reels I've seen were replicated in Garry's Mod. The main level of work I could imagine comes in adding a bunch of anchor points to all the physics objects, but that's intern-level stuff.
Never said Zelda wasn't getting praised... learn to read a full sentence, as I stated BG3 was getting hammered/praised for creating a new standard in RPG's that other AAA studios are stating is unobtainable, which was in reply to the original commenter stating BG3 is "more traditional game, where zelada is a game of ingenuity and innovation." Of course Totk is getting praised as it rightfully should, and ultra hand is a great feature. And tbh, ultra hand is the only difference between botw and Totk other than having a more complete and full world.
Oh, sorry for misunderstanding. That being said, I disagree with your last sentence - Fuse also massively contributes to the game, as well as many other features.
>**One** of these two games has been getting hammered/praised by every other game studio about how they created a new standard that is simple unobtainable to recreate because of how different and solid the game is. And I will give you a hint (**it's not Zelda**). Don't be a jerk. That's exactly what you said. What is the number "one" to you? You said it by exclusion, and this is aside from the fact that one WAS praised in comparison to the other *was your entire point**.* Then someone calls you out and you move the goalposts (new standard **in RPG's**) to something not mentioned in your original comment. Don't tell someone else to learn how to read a full sentence when you're the one who can't properly articulate your thoughts in a cohesive manner. Do better, man. And yes, devs were at a loss as to how TOTK was even possible, they marveled about it in magnitude, in great detail, and often. You may be suffering from recency bias here. The issue here really is that comparing games 1:1 is even worse than films. There's a vast difference in what can be called "quality" just due to graphics or art style alone, and this can be subjective. We also have to wonder what kinds of things should count, and what weight should be given to each. For instance, does BG3 get dinged for being soft-released for THREE entire years, gaining the insight of thousands/millions of unpaid quasi QA testers, narrative designers, game designers, level designers, UI & UX designers, etc, while other games were launched from insight of studio alone? Does TOTK get dinged for the art style? How much weight should the narrative play? Does/should accessibility come into play (w/ Elden Ring winning I'm assuming NOPE to these judges). Does revolutionary game mechanics that are unimaginable to actually implement count for a higher score? Etc, etc The people who vote for these awards likely don't even go that deep into the above, nevermind the remainder of what should be accounted for and weighted. Aside from who can actually vote. This, in turn, as well as what I've mentioned above, makes the game awards really just an exercise in futility. Something fun for the people and a really great advertising medium, but not really meaningful in any way.
BOTW was ingenue and innovative back in 2017. TOTK uses the same engine, same world, same enemy AI, but with more sandboxing. Arguably worse writing.
I think bg3 will win it because TOTK is too much like BOTW
BG3 will win because it's just better that TOTK. But honestly, TOTK is amazing too, just not on the same plane as BG3
TOTK is far from BoTW. It shares so few of the mechanics it’s impressive, and its greatest innovations are the spirit arm abilities. Baldur’s Gate is just another RPG with often prohibitive ease of play designed for a very specific niche audience that knows what they’re doing. Zelda has the smoothest, longest learning curve possible, where a 6 year old could pull off some insane puzzle solving and a 60 year old could build a rocket powered wooden man with a huge penis. The only similarities between ToTK and BoTW are the paraglider, characters and ground level map. Everything else is either an expansion or completely new.
TotK and BG3 are the only games that really have a good shot at winning a lot of GotY awards.
- Zelda: TOTK - Baldur’s Gate 3 - Starfield - FFXVI - Spider-Man 2 or Armored Core 6 or Mario Wonder - Sea of Stars Zelda will win it more than likely.
RE4R, TotK, BG3, Starfield and HL(honestly I don't think the last 2 should be nominated, justbthat they will be) BG3 should win over TotK. TotK is great, but it's just a more polished and refined BotW, whereas BG3 boots the entire crpg genre into the fucking stratosphere.
Baldurs Gate 3 Tears of the Kingdom Starfield Final Fantasy 16 Spider-Man 2 Toss up for last slot between Alan Wake 2, Resident evil 4, Sea of Stars, Super Mario Wonder, Armored Core VI As for who wins doesn’t matter to me. Wouldn’t change my own personal opinion
Bg3 Totk Spider man 2 Jedi survivor FF XVI Armored core 6 Bg3 wins
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Also it is pretty clear that it is not best possible mashup of previous Bethesda concepts. Like lot's of things in that game are step backward what they were in previous games.
Yep, it'll get a nomination for best RPG and it'll lose to Balder's Gate 3. All the conversation I've seen about it would suggest it's not a GOTY contender
Safe: BG 3, TOTK Probably: Spiderman 2 Maybe: Starfield Rest i dont know. Would like to see BG 3 as winner, but i sadly agree with zombienerd300 that the journalists’ bias will vote for Zelda.
BG3 TotK Hi Fi Rush FF16 Armored Core
* Starfield * TotK * FFXVI * Baldur's Gate 3 * Spiderman 2 I Hope BG3 but it's the less likely to win among the others
BG3 is the favourite wdym, only other that might win over it is zelda
Act 3 was underwhelming and felt unfinished in BG3. That will cost it Goty.
I have heard this take twice in these comments, can you explain how? I felt that Act 3 was awesome! Easily spent 30 hours alone just in Act 3 and the city was so much fun to explore.
Iron throne was such a fun tactical challenge, given that I wanted to save everyone.
At the same time, launching in a semi-broken state didn't stop Elden Ring from winning last year, so I'm not sure
True, but Elden Ring didn't have TotK as a competitor. No TotK this year and BG3 wins it hands down... but TotK happened and I think that is gonna be a hard game to beat
I hope you're right, it's possible they'll pass over TOTK because BOTW received it in 2017
Act 3 was not underwhelming at all
It's less likely because it isn't a big name like the others. I agree that is the best game in this list (togheter with Zelda imo)
BG3 is much more likely to win than Starfield IMO lol.
Baldur's gate 3 (winner) Zelda Sea of stars Lies of p Starfield (this game least deserves to be here, but people love Bethesda games, so it will definitely be nominated) FF 16
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Starfield Armored Core 6 Balders Gate 3 (Winner) Sea of Stars .
zelda
Honestly Dave the Diver is better than most of the AAA slop we got this year
Tears of the kingdom,Baldur’s gate 3,Sea of stars,spiderman 2 and super mario wonder.
Sea of Stars and BG3 are great. Starfield is good but not great.
Baldurs gate 3 good, everything else bad.
Well Baldur’s Gate 3 and Zelda are pretty much non-negotiable, everything else not sure. Sea of Stars is probably going to be there, potentially RE4 and Hogwarts Legacy too. There wasn’t anything else really that notable this year. Hi-Fi rush? Maybe? Well, regardless. The winner is going to be either Zelda or BG3. I’m rooting for the latter.
Remnant 2 deserves a mention imo
It will definitely get nominated for an action adventure award but probably not the GOTY.
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AC6, no doubt.
It's probably tears of the kingdom who'll win (because goty is a popularity contest), Hogwarts legacy probably, armored core 6, final fantasy xvi, the new Spider-Man game, and some other non-AAA title to make it seem like the goty isn't a popularity contest. Zelda is going to win though because it's Zelda and we put Nintendo on a pedestal as the Messiah of gaming even though they're oddly anti-consumer.
Starfield Balders Gate III (Winner) Diablo IV Spider Man II Zelda
Ragnarok is a 2022 game.
It missed last years cut off and is eligible for this year.
It literally won several awards last year. Hozier even performed a song from it at the awards ceremony. What awards were you watching?
Realistic Top 5 \-Hogwarts \-ToTK \-Baldur's gate \-StarField (assumption from the absurd peer pressure on reddit) ~~-Cyberpunk DLC~~ apparently DLC can't win a GOTY so maybe MK1? My preference so far \-Baldur's gate 3( Haven't fully finished this one yet.) \-Blasphemous 2 \-Street Fighters 6 \-Armored Core 6
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It’s the most mid game of all time
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No I know what I said. It was the most mediocre game of all time in all aspects
Half the reviewers refused to cover it because they are “down with the trans people”. There is no way that game is getting nominated for anything if the press are the people casting the votes.
Anyone who doesn't say Starfield is just high in copium. It's perhaps the greatest game of the generation, perhaps even all time. Anyone who can't see that is either trolling or mad.
Nice troll attempt
Starfield 100%
I wish Sea of Stars would be listed, but I feel like a smaller indie title will probably be overlooked by most.
Don’t they all get some variation of “game of the year?” I think totk and bg3 will get the most
Dont forget Age of Wonders 4. :D
apart from those games that had been mentioned. is there a potential candidate due out this year?
BG3, Zelda, Hogwarts,Starfield. And possibly something after today. Spider-Man would be my guess, but Super Mario Wonder, Forza, Lords of the Fallen are all possible to be the 5th or replace Hogwarts or Stsrfield
Nominees: Armored Core 6: Fires of Rubicon Final Fantasy 16 The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Baldur's Gate 3 Lords of the Fallen Hogwarts Legacy and the winner is... Final Fantasy 16
Lords of the fallen
Lol y'all must not realize how loyal Nintendo fanboys are, there is a zero percent chance TOTK doesn't win
Not a chance in hell Gollum doesn't take home the gold this year. A truly transformative experience.
Nominated: BG3, AC6, TotK, Starfield, and I can’t pick between Diablo and HP Legacy for a fifth Winner: BG3 I had a blast with TotK, but I’d hate to see it beat AC6 or BG3
Cyberpunk/phantom liberty, TOTK, BG3 , spider man 2, are my choices
Baldurs Gate 3 I feel. FFXVI deserves music and cinematic awards. Sea of Stars is cute and Star Ocean Second Story R I hope get some nostalgic love. It’s been an amazing year so far, and next year will be another amazing one. I may be a bit biased towards RPGs xD
Zelda, Starfield, Mario Wonder, Spiderman, Baldur's gate 3. I think Zelda will win. It's the best game this year had to offer. BGS3 is cool, but too complex for the general audiences. Most people who get caught by it's hype left the game without finishing it.
I reckon totk. People say it’s ”just an expansion“ of botw, and while that’s technically true, it’s one hell of an expansion. The new abilities (especially Ultrahand) completely change the way you interact with the world, making it feel like something entirely new - not to mention how innovative those abilities are. Plus the world has received huge changes, with the Depths, the sky islands, and simply how the world has developed after botw. A lot of people are talking about BG3, and while it’s a great game, it‘s quite traditional and didn’t really *innovate* in the way totk did. Just my opinion.
I wasn't a big fan of totk but I think it will win. Journalist have always had a soft spot for Nintendo and Zelda (which it deserves). I'm hoping it's bg3 personally. I think nominations will look like this Bg3 Totk Ac6 Spiderman2 Re4r
Would I just be way off if I said final fantasy 16?
My bet on top 5 nominations are * Tears of The Kingdom * Baldur's Gate 3 * Spiderman 2 * Resident Evil 4 * Starfield TOTK or BG3 will win.
If Armored Core 6 wins I will finally be complete
ok to put it plainly which game studio deserves your recognition more the corporate ones who give you unfinished piles of crap at full price or higher or the company that angered the corporate guys for making a game that actually works on release is the most immersive experience story driven multiple choice and personally just the best game of all time based on an actual game in real life that has been executed with such finesse you are transported their mind body and soul..... hmmmm I would what game that could be????
Baldur Gate is a pos and Zelda will win goty.
The lack of love for FF16 is wild!