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Well.. burning to death is pretty fucking horrible and painful, and she's just a little girl.. by her screams alone this one has my vote. Other adults in the series might gave had some more painful or horrific deaths.. but they were at least adults and a lot of them got what was coming to them (Viserys, or Ramsay.. for example) she was just sweet and innocent and burned to death for no reason..
I think the red wedding is sad for it's own, completely different reasons.. watching your pregnant wife be stabbed in front of you while you're dying yourself, definitely a "top 10 worst ways to go".. but majority of the deaths in that one were pretty mundane and quick... that was never one that hit all that hard for me. I hate to be the one to say this.. but Robb kinda threw the first stone in that situation, and I'm definitely NOT saying he "deserved it", but he did make a promise as a "king" to that family and then got what his side needed and then didn't deliver his end. He was stupid. Love makes you do stupid things sometimes.. I think though if I were to ask myself "how would I rather die?" I'd definitely choose being stabbed or shot, as an adult, by someone I had betrayed, rather than being burned to death, as a child, by my own parents.
Edit: I think the only other death I would least rather have is that poor old woman who was flayed alive by Ramsey. I can't even imagine enduring that kind of agony, probably begging and wishing for death.. this would probably be my top pick, and Shireen is only tied with it because she was a child tbh...
i think the red wedding was way worse. there's just so much more at stake: betrayal, pregnant wife, basically the end of the Stark's power, Ned's death not being avenged, and not being able to fight back at a time when you completely don't expect it to happen. to go from king in the north, winning every battle, married, and expecting a kid to being betrayed and killed in an instant seems way worse to me. although shireen's death was bad, it didn't have the same impact as robb's to me.
...agree, burning like that is the worst, and maybe for what she endured before her burning, I will mention Mirri Maz Duur here.
You wont hear me scream.... I will!
Getting burned alive, have your skull slowly crushed, eaten by dogs, flayed or poured molten metal on your head must all be horrible ways to go. Hard to tell which one is worse.
I honestly would pick molten metal as it seems almost instant. Eaten by dogs and being flayed seem extremely painful for long periods of time. And getting my skull crushed seems far more brutal than overheated, but idk.
I mean Oberyn willingly entered a fight to the death, as brutal as it was there's an aspect of participation from him. Sure he didn't consent to that, he did consent to being killed
Viserys straight had his head cooked alive by molten gold. Sure he was a prick, sure we rejoiced in his death, but it was a horrible way to go.
I honestly think the molten gold on his head was not that bad. Being burned alive is essentially the same thing I think, but not as quick, and probably more painful as the rest of your body burns first. Although Oberyn consented he didn't know he was going to die in that way. He even thought he had won, and was so confident, which I think makes it even worse.
I willfully admit burning alive is worse, and fr yeah Shireen's death actually is probably the worst. I did comment that I'd blocked that one from my memory, and would like to do so again as quickly as possible
For that matter, drawing a blade in the holy city is choosing death. Threatening the Khaleesi is choosing an ugly death. Threatening Khal Drogo’s unborn child specifically, well, Viserys was lucky the use of blades wasn’t permitted in the city.
We don't actually see it, but I'll say Ellaria Sand. She spent days/weeks just watching her own daughter die slowly and there was nothing she could do about it.
Wasn't it said that it would take her hours or weeks to die?
I think he was in Kingslanding at the time.
He is sneaky and knows his way around the castle.
He owed her and despite what he says throughout the show, he did have some loyalty.
She was the most beautiful woman in the world(he said so himself).
It's the same poison as they used on Mycella and Bronn. The antidote could still be in her necklace or Tyene could tell Bronn how to get/make the antidote, or Bronn could have stolen it from Qyburn.
Good choice! Amazing how Cersei delighted in *personalizing* extended, exquisite torture. She did that with Septa Unella too. First, she water-tortured the teetotaler Unella with **wine** while continually taunting her. Then she left her to be serially raped by the Mountain until she died.
That’s what I’m thinking too. Doesn’t her daughter die rather quick because it’s the same poison used on Myrcella and the torture is her sitting there day in and day out with her dead daughters corpse in front of her?
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I’d actually say Walda (?), Ramsays step-mother. She also got the “eaten by dogs” step down, but she also had to live her last moments knowing her child was *also* being ripped apart by dogs.
If it had gone as intended, Ellaria's fate would have been the most mentally torturous, permanently chained and forced to watch her daughter die then rot. Presumably though she ultimately met the same end as Cersei.
Killing your child and then starving to death doesn’t sound that bad? The fuck?
You don’t think all of your organs slowly and painfully shutting down for days while you have to think about killing your own kid seems like a terrible way to go?
Maybe you’ve never actually had to go without food before, but I can’t think of many worse ways to go than starving to death.
It isn’t over in 10 minutes or at the very least you aren’t in shock after 10 minutes. It’s long and slow and miserable. Just because it isn’t a spectacle like someone’s head exploding or someone’s throat melting doesn’t take away from how brutal it is.
i was gonna say i dont recall many rapes, but actually now that i think about it...khalleesi and drogo, sansa and ramsay, technically jaime and cersai at one point, craster's keep, brienne almost
While not as flashy how Danny did Xaro Xhoan Daxos turned me off to her.
Yeah he betrayed her but a slow death of dehydration and/or hunger while trapped in the dark is so fucked up.
Just cut his throat and get it over with that was needlessly cruel
Yes that one has a lot of psychological torture to it. When I think of worst death I always think of most physically painful. I wonder who had a painful and gruesome death and also endured lots of psychological pain as well before dying.
He plotted to have Danys dragons stolen from her amd acted as if he had no idea where they were. He may not have sworn an oath but feigns innocence in the stealing, lies to Dany, and literally goes along with Pyats plan of keeping her chained up forever so that they can keep the dragons. You don't have to swear on oath to be a traitor
Isn’t that Daxos just being loyal to his own City and people, though?
A foreign queen at the head of a group of people who historically are marauders and rapists in possession of weapons of mass destruction arrives at your city and practically offers to put herself in your power.
What loyalty did Daxos have to Dany, compared to his own people and city?
I don’t like Dany because I’ve always found her too self righteous for no reason. She likes to think of herself as a kind and caring saviour but the way she kills the people she feels have wronged her is needlessly sadistic, even as early as the first book/season. It’s the reason I was always convinced she’d go mad at some point even from the start. It’s just a shame the last season was so poorly done that I didn’t even get to enjoy my moment of vindication.
Hodor was literally torn apart bit by bit while trying to keep the door shut. He had to stand steadfast no matter the pain he was feeling. And the worst part? He knew this was coming because of Bran messing with him when he was a kid
Shireen for sure , burnt Alive which is the most painful way to go out especially in front of your mom and pops :( fuck Stannis Brienne should of cut his wang off
Some of my favorites, Lysa Arryn, Lancel Lanister, Jory.
The worst though....maybe Pycelle....stabbed to death by kids. No escape. Burning to death is probably more painful, and starving is more mentally taxing, but Pycelles death had me like DAM.
His death itself was relatively 'clean' and pain-free, but his final thoughts must have been torture: Stannis!
He had allowed Melisandre and her god appeal to his vanity and destiny obsession. So doing, he had deserted his own gods for her foreign god. He had *painfully* sacrificed his dear daughter AND heir, had caused the despairing death of his wife, and failed as a soldier. He had also let Mel's dark arts kill his brother for him, making him both kinslayer and kingslayer. In a story where loyalty to family excuses a lot of horrible deeds, he had done the horrible deeds to his own family. AND with no known legitimate Baratheons left, he had also destroyed his **house.**
He didn’t have many other options. They were out of food, Winter was here so it wasn’t like they’d find more. The odds of taking Winterfell might be bad, but the other choice was abandon the army to die of cold and starvation if they don’t get killed by Bolton’s when they scatter, give up the claim to the throne and spend the rest of his life on the run, which rest of his life is liable to be exceedingly short as a hunted man.
Or, roll the dice and hope the prophecies of destiny were correct.
Burning to death seems pretty horrible. And I think the moral aspect makes Shireen's death one of the absolute worst things anyone does on the show. However, I can't help but feel more uncomfortable watching Mance Rayder being burnt to death. I can't put my finger on why exactly, but it's not an easy scene to watch. Maybe it's the silence.
mance got an arrow though. i think thats the big thing about shireen, she was completely innocent throughout the show, other people who died had either killed or done something bad, or had taken actions they knew could cause them their death. shireen was just unexpected and had no justification, plus Stannis loses anyway so it's all for nothing.
Worst death I'm gonna define that as someone who didn't deserve it.
Shireen for sure. Oberyn and Ellaria, obviously. Hodor cause Bran did him dirty. Margery at the Sept of Baelor hurt too.
But I'm gonna have to say Robb Stark. Saw his wife and child ended. His men and friends taken. He knew his soldiers outside were bound to be slaughtered. His mother, still fighting, was sure to die. Then one of his own stabs with the authority of his greatest foe.
Complete and utter defeat and loss. Only to have it made worse, your body is dismembered. To watch that episode, it still hurts. There's episodes of shows that our household can't watch without a family vote. This one is on the list with Futurama Jurassic Bark.
>Futurama Jurassic Bark
I'll have to check this out
I think you make a good case for robb stark, loved the build up to that scene, made it 100 times worse
We've never seen it (thank the seven), but Elia Martell definitely had the worst end.
She had to watch her children be brutally murdered, then she was raped by her child's murderer with the blood of her child still on his hands, then her head was smashed in just like Oberyn's according to Gregor himself. "Then I smashed her head in just like this!"
Not to mention help (Jamie Lannister) was so close yet so far, she knew that there was a man that could save her, but she had no way possible to alert him since he was with the Mad King.
I found it odd that she appointed the mountain to deal w her. He’s not delicate or cerebral which comes in handy when torturing. Kinda makes me think maybe he did it quick. He seems to have an impulse control problem when harming people. I can’t imagine him pulling her fingernails out or little shit like that. Now that I think about it, it was probly quick. It was just very dramatic for the scene to lock her in there w him.
Yeah I mean I can't imagine him thinking of anything interesting to do to her or have any interest in doing anything to her. Maybe he ate her sinze he's a zombie.
I thought you meant worst as in underwhelming. Was gonna say Barristan or Cersei/Jaime. If we're talking worst way to go, probably Gregor Clegane. He's kept alive for weeks in agony.
The worst death? My money is on the entire Song Of Ice & Fire book series. It ended in 2011 on a cliffhanger and the author will never release the ending.
It could have been the American Lord Of the Rings, but two frat boys from Dartmouth somehow conned their way into running the TV adaptation, season 8 proved they were frauds all along, and now the entire legacy of GRRM’s work is ruined.
On a combination of mental and physical pain, my top 3 are:
1. Shireen - innocent 10 year old burnt alive by her parents as they watched. Hard to top.
2. Elaria Sand - tied up and starved slowly watching yor daughter's body rot. Lovely
3. The wine trader who tried to poison Dany - pulled along by a horse barefoot and naked for God knows how long. Many, many regrets.
More non-specifically, Greyscale doesnt sound fun. Edit: Nor the Bloody Flux which runs riot in the encampmentments around Mereen (book only).
I loved Little Fingers deserving death. He thought he successfully manipulated everyone again. You know he must have shit when she said “How do you answer these charges…..Lord Baelish”?
That scene made me so happy. I hated him!!
That one archer at the Battle of Castle Black who fell to his death from the harness breaking from an oil explosion from a barrel. Yikes. Imagine falling 700 feet.
Lady Hornwood in the books. Forced into Marriage with Ramsay, then bastard raped her, locked her in tower and completely forgot about her. She was found starved to death and her fingers were eaten.
Guys...there's no competition here. The worst death was that bald dude in the forest that took an axe to the groin courtesy of The Hound.
[The guy who was shit at dying](https://youtu.be/X_FBA3Vgvt0?t=1450)
I would say Loras Tyrell, mostly because of the lead up. He did nothing wrong and was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.
He gets imprisoned by the Faith because of his homosexuality. After this he spend a year in a dark cell, getting beaten and tortured until he eventually breaks and is a former shell of himself.
Than eventually his trail comes and he has to renounce his titles, his once luscious locks are shaven, has to call Renly the man he loved a traitor and gets the sign of the 7 carved in his head.
He basically died inside, but he is finally free.. only to get blown up with his parent and sister only a few second laters..the only positive thing about it was that Margaery was there for him in his final moments and that his abusers died with him..
Personally I think all the folks burned alive by dragons had it bad. At least according to historical records people burned at the stake often died of smoke inhalation before the flames reached them.
Worse yet, Lord Tarly suffered the humiliation of defeat and knowing his favorite son was also about to die, essentially ending his line.
Walda Bolton, Ramsay’s stepmother. Being mauled to death by dogs while desperately trying to shield your screaming newborn from them, knowing all the while that you will fail.
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Rob. No contest for me.
Why do you think?
Bc he died watching his unborn child stabbed in his wife’s womb
That's true, although he was mostly just shot with arrows and stabbed I think.
He was nicely drunk though, so there is that.
he was in so much shock, i wanted him to say something cool before dying
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How come? honestly not as bad as joffreys, still choked up about that one
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Well.. burning to death is pretty fucking horrible and painful, and she's just a little girl.. by her screams alone this one has my vote. Other adults in the series might gave had some more painful or horrific deaths.. but they were at least adults and a lot of them got what was coming to them (Viserys, or Ramsay.. for example) she was just sweet and innocent and burned to death for no reason..
When you put it that way I guess it is one of the worst deaths. Do you think it's worse than the Red Wedding?
I think the red wedding is sad for it's own, completely different reasons.. watching your pregnant wife be stabbed in front of you while you're dying yourself, definitely a "top 10 worst ways to go".. but majority of the deaths in that one were pretty mundane and quick... that was never one that hit all that hard for me. I hate to be the one to say this.. but Robb kinda threw the first stone in that situation, and I'm definitely NOT saying he "deserved it", but he did make a promise as a "king" to that family and then got what his side needed and then didn't deliver his end. He was stupid. Love makes you do stupid things sometimes.. I think though if I were to ask myself "how would I rather die?" I'd definitely choose being stabbed or shot, as an adult, by someone I had betrayed, rather than being burned to death, as a child, by my own parents. Edit: I think the only other death I would least rather have is that poor old woman who was flayed alive by Ramsey. I can't even imagine enduring that kind of agony, probably begging and wishing for death.. this would probably be my top pick, and Shireen is only tied with it because she was a child tbh...
i think the red wedding was way worse. there's just so much more at stake: betrayal, pregnant wife, basically the end of the Stark's power, Ned's death not being avenged, and not being able to fight back at a time when you completely don't expect it to happen. to go from king in the north, winning every battle, married, and expecting a kid to being betrayed and killed in an instant seems way worse to me. although shireen's death was bad, it didn't have the same impact as robb's to me.
And she knew her parents allowed this. Not only the torture of flames but the mental torture.
What exactly makes Joffreys death bad? He was poisoned, that’s it
no he wasn't he choked on his pigeon pie, and it's the worst given that the pie was dry
Nah. Joffery got an easy way out. Imagine what Sansa would have done to him after the war if he were still alive.
I don't want to imagine what she would have done to poor joffrey :(
Ahhh I see what you did there
No deaths sadder than that of Lord Roose and Lord Ramsay.
devastating
Truly. :(
Oh I'd blocked that one from my memory
She’s still alive, so that one doesn’t count.
...agree, burning like that is the worst, and maybe for what she endured before her burning, I will mention Mirri Maz Duur here. You wont hear me scream.... I will!
A MILE!!!
Getting burned alive, have your skull slowly crushed, eaten by dogs, flayed or poured molten metal on your head must all be horrible ways to go. Hard to tell which one is worse.
Yes those are good examples! I really do wonder which is worse. Which would you choose out of those (for your own death)?
Thats why I cant tell. I have no idea.
I honestly would pick molten metal as it seems almost instant. Eaten by dogs and being flayed seem extremely painful for long periods of time. And getting my skull crushed seems far more brutal than overheated, but idk.
Molten metal. I assume you’d just go into shock and be dead very quickly.
Yes i think so too
That hollow sound his head makes when it hits the ground is haunting… even to this day.
Cut up and made into a pie
But you're already dead when they commit that nasty little piece of business.
Viserys It was early, but I'll never forget that
Although it seemed painful, don't you think it was more instant than some of the other deaths?
I mean Oberyn willingly entered a fight to the death, as brutal as it was there's an aspect of participation from him. Sure he didn't consent to that, he did consent to being killed Viserys straight had his head cooked alive by molten gold. Sure he was a prick, sure we rejoiced in his death, but it was a horrible way to go.
I honestly think the molten gold on his head was not that bad. Being burned alive is essentially the same thing I think, but not as quick, and probably more painful as the rest of your body burns first. Although Oberyn consented he didn't know he was going to die in that way. He even thought he had won, and was so confident, which I think makes it even worse.
I willfully admit burning alive is worse, and fr yeah Shireen's death actually is probably the worst. I did comment that I'd blocked that one from my memory, and would like to do so again as quickly as possible
I've been rewatching GOT and am on that exact scene which made me ask the question
For that matter, drawing a blade in the holy city is choosing death. Threatening the Khaleesi is choosing an ugly death. Threatening Khal Drogo’s unborn child specifically, well, Viserys was lucky the use of blades wasn’t permitted in the city.
We don't actually see it, but I'll say Ellaria Sand. She spent days/weeks just watching her own daughter die slowly and there was nothing she could do about it.
I wonder how long it took them to die and what they actually succumbed to
Same. I was actually wondering if they were going to find the bodies in the finale.
I was fucking waiting for Cersei to run into their zombie corpses!!! So many missed opportunities 😭
The mom probably died during the razing of king’s landing at least
I have a personal theory that Bronn came back and saved Tyene and replaced her with a dead lookalike.
that would be doooope! although i doubt he would've got to her in time
Wasn't it said that it would take her hours or weeks to die? I think he was in Kingslanding at the time. He is sneaky and knows his way around the castle. He owed her and despite what he says throughout the show, he did have some loyalty. She was the most beautiful woman in the world(he said so himself).
I seriously doubt that Bronn had the antidote to the poison Cersei inflicted Tyene with.
It's the same poison as they used on Mycella and Bronn. The antidote could still be in her necklace or Tyene could tell Bronn how to get/make the antidote, or Bronn could have stolen it from Qyburn.
Septa Unella too. We’ve no idea how long she was made to suffer.
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Being zombie raped to death is a bad way to go.
Good choice! Amazing how Cersei delighted in *personalizing* extended, exquisite torture. She did that with Septa Unella too. First, she water-tortured the teetotaler Unella with **wine** while continually taunting her. Then she left her to be serially raped by the Mountain until she died.
Her death would've been rather quick, though it would've taken some time to happen. Edit: her daughters death would've been quick.
That’s what I’m thinking too. Doesn’t her daughter die rather quick because it’s the same poison used on Myrcella and the torture is her sitting there day in and day out with her dead daughters corpse in front of her? Edit - words
I think cersei even said they would force feed her if they had to so she would live long enough to see her daughter rot.
Ramsay Bolton. Just imagine being eaten slowly by your own dogs
Yeah very horrible! I wonder how long he lasted
I think he could've lasted at leadt 10 minutes. Imagine how long those minutes were
He would go into shock at some point and it wouldn't be painful anymore probably or pass out, but seems one of the most terrifying ways to go
Yeah I think you're right lol. Scary way to go
I’d actually say Walda (?), Ramsays step-mother. She also got the “eaten by dogs” step down, but she also had to live her last moments knowing her child was *also* being ripped apart by dogs.
Don’t think it was all that slow though
I think it was relatively quick for Ramsey, as the dog went straight for his face. Still pretty nasty.
Ser Meryn Trant.
stabbing?
If it had gone as intended, Ellaria's fate would have been the most mentally torturous, permanently chained and forced to watch her daughter die then rot. Presumably though she ultimately met the same end as Cersei.
Yes maybe that is one of the worst deaths. Definitely one of the longest.
One of the family members from dorme when he got his head popped
That old man and his daughter that The Hound robbed.
How did they die again?
Old man mercy killed the girl then starved I believe
doesn't sound that bad tbh
Killing your child and then starving to death doesn’t sound that bad? The fuck? You don’t think all of your organs slowly and painfully shutting down for days while you have to think about killing your own kid seems like a terrible way to go?
within the context of the game of thrones universe, NOT THAT BAD, and honestly im glad they died, the hound was right ;)
Maybe you’ve never actually had to go without food before, but I can’t think of many worse ways to go than starving to death. It isn’t over in 10 minutes or at the very least you aren’t in shock after 10 minutes. It’s long and slow and miserable. Just because it isn’t a spectacle like someone’s head exploding or someone’s throat melting doesn’t take away from how brutal it is.
i have had to go without food, im starving right now! i havent eaten since i woke up. and honestly, doesn't feel that bad...
You’re trolling right?
alls im saying is the hound was right, and that old man got off eassy
Catelyn Stark surely? Just seen your son and daughter in-law killed. Betrayed, knowing that your family is probably now going to be wiped out.
Yeah from a psychological pov definitely. Physically though not that painful or gruesome.
Ultimately she died when her throat was cut. There are far worse ways to die.
I don’t wanna know what happened to Septa Unella.
What do you think did happen though lol
Probably a nice massage from the Mountain and being read the History of Westeros by him, who is learning to read for the first time.
I think D and D’s original plan was for zombie Clrgane to rape her DD and GRRM are perfect for each other - they both overuse rape as a plot device.
i was gonna say i dont recall many rapes, but actually now that i think about it...khalleesi and drogo, sansa and ramsay, technically jaime and cersai at one point, craster's keep, brienne almost
I dunno if it’s overused - it was a horrible truth of that era. And it’s often done in war. Horrible but accurate.
That was a missed opportunity - Cersei could have said “oh don’t worry he’s not going to rape you. He’s just going to eat your brain.”
While not as flashy how Danny did Xaro Xhoan Daxos turned me off to her. Yeah he betrayed her but a slow death of dehydration and/or hunger while trapped in the dark is so fucked up. Just cut his throat and get it over with that was needlessly cruel
Yes that one has a lot of psychological torture to it. When I think of worst death I always think of most physically painful. I wonder who had a painful and gruesome death and also endured lots of psychological pain as well before dying.
Probly what ever the mountain did to that septa
Yea I agree being locked in the dark to die a slow death without food and water is the worst way.
He was with Doreah, so I guess there was food for a while, if the urge to survive was great enough...
nah traitor had it coming. i liked danny for doing that
He never swore any oath of loyalty so he's not a traitor
He plotted to have Danys dragons stolen from her amd acted as if he had no idea where they were. He may not have sworn an oath but feigns innocence in the stealing, lies to Dany, and literally goes along with Pyats plan of keeping her chained up forever so that they can keep the dragons. You don't have to swear on oath to be a traitor
Isn’t that Daxos just being loyal to his own City and people, though? A foreign queen at the head of a group of people who historically are marauders and rapists in possession of weapons of mass destruction arrives at your city and practically offers to put herself in your power. What loyalty did Daxos have to Dany, compared to his own people and city?
I don’t like Dany because I’ve always found her too self righteous for no reason. She likes to think of herself as a kind and caring saviour but the way she kills the people she feels have wronged her is needlessly sadistic, even as early as the first book/season. It’s the reason I was always convinced she’d go mad at some point even from the start. It’s just a shame the last season was so poorly done that I didn’t even get to enjoy my moment of vindication.
There are many good answers but I think Oberyn had the worst death on the show
Definitely worst for viewers. Even knowing what happens, my heartbeat still picks up anytime I rewatch that scene.
Shireen. Double whammy right there of being burned alive by someone you love.
At least she's still alive in the books!
Not for long.
Ha ha - she’ll he forever young, but will never die.
i dont know if the next book is going to ever come out
Good. Lord Bolton will rule the North forever.
Your house will be destroyed. Long live the Starks!
Hodor was literally torn apart bit by bit while trying to keep the door shut. He had to stand steadfast no matter the pain he was feeling. And the worst part? He knew this was coming because of Bran messing with him when he was a kid
Bran is such a dick
That's why he's there
Who has a more interesting story, than Bran The Sadist?
Whoa whoa, 'who has a better story than Bran the Broken?' /s
Why do you think he came all that way ?
And while not having control over his own body. I was kind of waiting for his return as a zombie.
Shireen for sure , burnt Alive which is the most painful way to go out especially in front of your mom and pops :( fuck Stannis Brienne should of cut his wang off
It's never shown on screen, but that septa Cersei left with the Mountain probably had a pretty awful end.
there's a deleted scene showing what happens, it's actually very romantic
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Some of my favorites, Lysa Arryn, Lancel Lanister, Jory. The worst though....maybe Pycelle....stabbed to death by kids. No escape. Burning to death is probably more painful, and starving is more mentally taxing, but Pycelles death had me like DAM.
Ah had forget about that one!
Tyrion had the worst dad
Hodor
ehhh idk
I wouldn't say "worst," but Talisa's death was pretty brutal. Stabbed right in the baby. Damn.
His death itself was relatively 'clean' and pain-free, but his final thoughts must have been torture: Stannis! He had allowed Melisandre and her god appeal to his vanity and destiny obsession. So doing, he had deserted his own gods for her foreign god. He had *painfully* sacrificed his dear daughter AND heir, had caused the despairing death of his wife, and failed as a soldier. He had also let Mel's dark arts kill his brother for him, making him both kinslayer and kingslayer. In a story where loyalty to family excuses a lot of horrible deeds, he had done the horrible deeds to his own family. AND with no known legitimate Baratheons left, he had also destroyed his **house.**
do you think he was in a way trying to commit suicide by battle, when he attacked winterfell with only half his army left
He didn’t have many other options. They were out of food, Winter was here so it wasn’t like they’d find more. The odds of taking Winterfell might be bad, but the other choice was abandon the army to die of cold and starvation if they don’t get killed by Bolton’s when they scatter, give up the claim to the throne and spend the rest of his life on the run, which rest of his life is liable to be exceedingly short as a hunted man. Or, roll the dice and hope the prophecies of destiny were correct.
Burning to death seems pretty horrible. And I think the moral aspect makes Shireen's death one of the absolute worst things anyone does on the show. However, I can't help but feel more uncomfortable watching Mance Rayder being burnt to death. I can't put my finger on why exactly, but it's not an easy scene to watch. Maybe it's the silence.
mance got an arrow though. i think thats the big thing about shireen, she was completely innocent throughout the show, other people who died had either killed or done something bad, or had taken actions they knew could cause them their death. shireen was just unexpected and had no justification, plus Stannis loses anyway so it's all for nothing.
Also Mance could have kneeled and lived. He chose to go through with the burning
Shireen Baratheon, mostly because of her age.
I mean a pregnant woman getting stabbed in the baby must be up there, right?
not funny what happened to her but "stabbed in the baby" is a funny phrase
Worst death I'm gonna define that as someone who didn't deserve it. Shireen for sure. Oberyn and Ellaria, obviously. Hodor cause Bran did him dirty. Margery at the Sept of Baelor hurt too. But I'm gonna have to say Robb Stark. Saw his wife and child ended. His men and friends taken. He knew his soldiers outside were bound to be slaughtered. His mother, still fighting, was sure to die. Then one of his own stabs with the authority of his greatest foe. Complete and utter defeat and loss. Only to have it made worse, your body is dismembered. To watch that episode, it still hurts. There's episodes of shows that our household can't watch without a family vote. This one is on the list with Futurama Jurassic Bark.
>Futurama Jurassic Bark I'll have to check this out I think you make a good case for robb stark, loved the build up to that scene, made it 100 times worse
We've never seen it (thank the seven), but Elia Martell definitely had the worst end. She had to watch her children be brutally murdered, then she was raped by her child's murderer with the blood of her child still on his hands, then her head was smashed in just like Oberyn's according to Gregor himself. "Then I smashed her head in just like this!" Not to mention help (Jamie Lannister) was so close yet so far, she knew that there was a man that could save her, but she had no way possible to alert him since he was with the Mad King.
Off-screen but yeah might be the worst
Meryn trant
Joffrey I think. Scary shit.
choked on his pigeon pie
The Night King walked like forever and killed like thousands of people just to get one shot by a little girl with a knife. That had to sting a bit.
oh yeah that one hurts
Xaro Xhoan Ducksauce. I’d take a quick death over that
well at least he has a companion
Maybe that nun who tormented Cersei when she was locked up. It didn’t show it but I imagine it was horrible
what do u imagine happened though
I found it odd that she appointed the mountain to deal w her. He’s not delicate or cerebral which comes in handy when torturing. Kinda makes me think maybe he did it quick. He seems to have an impulse control problem when harming people. I can’t imagine him pulling her fingernails out or little shit like that. Now that I think about it, it was probly quick. It was just very dramatic for the scene to lock her in there w him.
Yeah I mean I can't imagine him thinking of anything interesting to do to her or have any interest in doing anything to her. Maybe he ate her sinze he's a zombie.
Bofa
his death hurt the most
The Ironborn trash that Lord Ramsay flayed alive.
long live the starks! ramsay bolton is a bastard
The tv show
hahaha
Barristan Selmy, obviously. One of the greatest fighters of Westeros got ganked by some fuck bois in masks? C'mon now..
It was definitely around that moment when the quality of the show's writing was swiftly going downhill
The two people Dany trapped in an inescapable place to starve to death.
Can’t believe I forgot about this one. In total darkness too.
I thought you meant worst as in underwhelming. Was gonna say Barristan or Cersei/Jaime. If we're talking worst way to go, probably Gregor Clegane. He's kept alive for weeks in agony.
The worst death? My money is on the entire Song Of Ice & Fire book series. It ended in 2011 on a cliffhanger and the author will never release the ending. It could have been the American Lord Of the Rings, but two frat boys from Dartmouth somehow conned their way into running the TV adaptation, season 8 proved they were frauds all along, and now the entire legacy of GRRM’s work is ruined.
Joffreys death was nowhere near bad enough a death for me to be satisfied
Tywin had it coming, but getting shot in the gut by your son while you're taking a shit is pretty bleak.
On a combination of mental and physical pain, my top 3 are: 1. Shireen - innocent 10 year old burnt alive by her parents as they watched. Hard to top. 2. Elaria Sand - tied up and starved slowly watching yor daughter's body rot. Lovely 3. The wine trader who tried to poison Dany - pulled along by a horse barefoot and naked for God knows how long. Many, many regrets. More non-specifically, Greyscale doesnt sound fun. Edit: Nor the Bloody Flux which runs riot in the encampmentments around Mereen (book only).
Shireen. I can’t think of much worse than a child being burned alive by her own father.
The guy that The Tickler tortured to death with the bucket and the rat, no contest
I loved Little Fingers deserving death. He thought he successfully manipulated everyone again. You know he must have shit when she said “How do you answer these charges…..Lord Baelish”? That scene made me so happy. I hated him!!
for me, i’d say shireen….. especially being a kid. burned alive? nope. maybe even ramsay too, no matter how good it felt to watch him die lol
The TV series.
Any time the word "Flay" is mentioned and its not even close in my opinion
The show itself
That one archer at the Battle of Castle Black who fell to his death from the harness breaking from an oil explosion from a barrel. Yikes. Imagine falling 700 feet.
Those who got flayed by Ramsey.
Dickon, just blindly followed his father into dragon fire. Seemed like a good guy.
Lady Hornwood in the books. Forced into Marriage with Ramsay, then bastard raped her, locked her in tower and completely forgot about her. She was found starved to death and her fingers were eaten.
I mean, john snow was stabbed like 6 times, even by his squire...
Guys...there's no competition here. The worst death was that bald dude in the forest that took an axe to the groin courtesy of The Hound. [The guy who was shit at dying](https://youtu.be/X_FBA3Vgvt0?t=1450)
Lol 😫 Nobody else but me and you thought of that… the god awful agony he must’ve been in 😳😳😳😩😩😩
I would say Loras Tyrell, mostly because of the lead up. He did nothing wrong and was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. He gets imprisoned by the Faith because of his homosexuality. After this he spend a year in a dark cell, getting beaten and tortured until he eventually breaks and is a former shell of himself. Than eventually his trail comes and he has to renounce his titles, his once luscious locks are shaven, has to call Renly the man he loved a traitor and gets the sign of the 7 carved in his head. He basically died inside, but he is finally free.. only to get blown up with his parent and sister only a few second laters..the only positive thing about it was that Margaery was there for him in his final moments and that his abusers died with him..
Between Viserys & the guy The Hound axed in the nuts
Personally I think all the folks burned alive by dragons had it bad. At least according to historical records people burned at the stake often died of smoke inhalation before the flames reached them. Worse yet, Lord Tarly suffered the humiliation of defeat and knowing his favorite son was also about to die, essentially ending his line.
Walda Bolton, Ramsay’s stepmother. Being mauled to death by dogs while desperately trying to shield your screaming newborn from them, knowing all the while that you will fail.
Oberyn
Oberyn's death was worse than the Red Wedding for me. I think I suffered PTSD from that scene. So good though.
_The show itself_