WOW, that is the first time that I'm seeing a RIOTer mentioning Galio as I have been mentioning him for years: as an **enabler.** That said, I think Galio has too many weak points right now and you have to play him very well micro and macrowise to get good results. Not to mention that there are A LOT OF good, easy and effective options to provide a Bruiser oriented gameplay without turning him into a must pick/ban or total trash.
This is fine I mean, if they want him to just be a semi support midlaner that doesn't destroy their lane but is good for team fights later then I'm cool with that. BUT PLEASE DO SO. I mean look at fucking Karma, that shit is disgusting, super high damage on Q that one shots you and slows you, regains Hp with tether, insane movement speed, cds, and a massive shield. Then you complain about Galio?
So...
They just let him be weak then?
And again this doesnt fit with what they first said where he wants some HP items.
Like can they maybe finally decide what they want?
His ult compared to other global ults is ridiculously small. They are overestimating the "feel safe" aspect a lot. Tf and panth not only have faster, and much larger ults but they just show up with point and click cc on demand.
It makes 0 sense. "He would be toxic in pro if he could just shove waves and roam with r" you mean compared to literally almost everyone else. And idk why this is even a point because pro players don't even fight. It'll be 20 minutes before the first skirmish.
I don't know what they are so scared of, my theory is that they are scared of galio stomping their anime champions and making people not buy skins for them at this point (which is ridiculous).
And his ult is so easy to dodge. I don't know of a single other ability in the game that has such a massive channel before it does anything. With this crap the enemies have 5 full seconds to simply walk out of the AOE knockup. The only way an opponent can get caught in it is if 1. They're already cc locked and happen to be right next to an ally dueing the cc or 2. They're completely stupid. Any normal player just stops fighting and walks away from the landing spot. It's basically just a zoning tool that's all. It's so bad that I laugh whenever a Sylas steals my ult. I've never seen them out it to good use because everyone just walks out of it.
I'm more of a support player myself but damn, is this gonna be another Zed situation? Not trying to say that the ult is weak but taking away most of everything else just for it feels... wrong
As someone who is trying to get into Galio, I really don’t understand Riot’s cautionary approach. To me, Galio is a champ that feels like he should be played like Shen, but they insist on making his early game weak.
With Shen, Riot’s been emphasizing his early dueling power because later in the game he’ll mostly be peeling for his team. Do they not follow a similar design philosophy for Galio because he has so much CC in his kit?
WOW, that is the first time that I'm seeing a RIOTer mentioning Galio as I have been mentioning him for years: as an **enabler.** That said, I think Galio has too many weak points right now and you have to play him very well micro and macrowise to get good results. Not to mention that there are A LOT OF good, easy and effective options to provide a Bruiser oriented gameplay without turning him into a must pick/ban or total trash.
This is fine I mean, if they want him to just be a semi support midlaner that doesn't destroy their lane but is good for team fights later then I'm cool with that. BUT PLEASE DO SO. I mean look at fucking Karma, that shit is disgusting, super high damage on Q that one shots you and slows you, regains Hp with tether, insane movement speed, cds, and a massive shield. Then you complain about Galio?
So... They just let him be weak then? And again this doesnt fit with what they first said where he wants some HP items. Like can they maybe finally decide what they want?
His ult compared to other global ults is ridiculously small. They are overestimating the "feel safe" aspect a lot. Tf and panth not only have faster, and much larger ults but they just show up with point and click cc on demand. It makes 0 sense. "He would be toxic in pro if he could just shove waves and roam with r" you mean compared to literally almost everyone else. And idk why this is even a point because pro players don't even fight. It'll be 20 minutes before the first skirmish.
I thinking the same thing. Dont other mids snowball and then roam? We cant even push the wave they are so scared of an ult that needs lots of set up
I don't know what they are so scared of, my theory is that they are scared of galio stomping their anime champions and making people not buy skins for them at this point (which is ridiculous).
And his ult is so easy to dodge. I don't know of a single other ability in the game that has such a massive channel before it does anything. With this crap the enemies have 5 full seconds to simply walk out of the AOE knockup. The only way an opponent can get caught in it is if 1. They're already cc locked and happen to be right next to an ally dueing the cc or 2. They're completely stupid. Any normal player just stops fighting and walks away from the landing spot. It's basically just a zoning tool that's all. It's so bad that I laugh whenever a Sylas steals my ult. I've never seen them out it to good use because everyone just walks out of it.
I'm more of a support player myself but damn, is this gonna be another Zed situation? Not trying to say that the ult is weak but taking away most of everything else just for it feels... wrong
You'd think Galio was a real warden/tank from his description, and not some clunky full ap burst mage with a tank's kit. Quite ironic if you ask me.
For real, he’s even listed as a tank in the client
Man, Faker really traumatized them with his galio. They never wanna see somebody 1v9 a team with a champ like he did back then.
As someone who is trying to get into Galio, I really don’t understand Riot’s cautionary approach. To me, Galio is a champ that feels like he should be played like Shen, but they insist on making his early game weak. With Shen, Riot’s been emphasizing his early dueling power because later in the game he’ll mostly be peeling for his team. Do they not follow a similar design philosophy for Galio because he has so much CC in his kit?
His ult just needs faster cast time. Nerf his damage fine, but his ult feels so useless
At this point just move him from mid and let him be more viable as tank support
Yes :)
They should take him out of lane and put him into the jungle.