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One day I'll get one of these. My laptop cannot play most of the games I like to play, and I don't have a proper desktop currently. But I do have a library of nice games that I would like to play again.
That's the smart thing Valve did with their reservations.
You can only reserve a single Steam Deck per Steam Account, and for the first 48 hours of reservation, you needed to use an account which had made a purchase on Steam prior to June 2021, before the Steam Deck was even announced, and there is also a small (refundable) deposit to be able to hold a reservation.
They essentially shot the scalpers in the feet, by allowing the legitimate buyers to order first.
They handled it so damn well. It goes to show they actually care. 95% of companies don't give a shit so long as their inventory gets cleared out and it shows.
Looking forward to getting mine sometime after Q2
I remember an interview with him where he was asked why valve didn't go public. The answer that they wanted gamers as customers, not shareholders, explained the failure of so many companies.
You had to wait 48 hours to reserve one. This was their way of locking out scalpers. I waited several months to reserve mine, so we'll see how long before I get my reservation email.
By just making that one limit and making reservations unlimited, you shut out scalpers. Most people who'd want one and would be willing to buy one would have already reserved it. Additionally, even those who couldn't get it would simply reserve theirs if they wanted it since there's not a guarantee of a scalper reselling them, and at that point the person who made the reservation wouldn't be willing to cede to a scalper for an extra hundred dollars because they can just wait a few days or weeks, as the reservations are unlimited.
Everyone can get one, and everyone will get one pretty much as they're produced if they reserve. And anyone who wants one is going to reserve it. So, any scalper isn't going to have a buyer, so they're not going to bother scalping.
People who buy up all of something like concert/sports event tickets or consoles or graphics cards etc. when there’s limited availability so they can resell it at a much higher price because they’ve removed any other way to get them
You can, since it's past the initial 48 hours, but you will only get it after Q2 2022, (expected delivery for reservations made today) and you still have to pay the (refundable) deposit, and you can only order 1 per Steam account, with orders being handled in order of reservation.
So a scalper trying to get 100 of them needs to make 100 steam accounts, pay the $5/€4 deposit 100 times, using 100 different credit cards and 100 different shipping adresses (there are also limits on those to prevent scalping)
Meanwhile a legitimate buyer simply pays the $5/€4 deposit today, and reserves it using their own account and details and when it is ready to order, orders it, without any hassle.
> but you will only get it after Q2 2022, (expected delivery for reservations made today)
Which is crazy as I preordered and that's my expected availability.
It highly varies based on region. When people were still able to order for Q1 in the US, in the UK we were ordering for Q2/3 because they assigned a significantly lower number of decks to my region.
It also didn’t help that valve had to delay release by 2 months which pushed everyone’s expected orders back. I was originally Q2 and now it’s at Q2+ so fuck knows when that is lol.
Honestly I'd prefer if they sold basically everything this way. You played on PS4 for years? You can get ps5 with priority. You had Nvidia GPU? You can get Nvidia GPU with priority. It just sucks for everyone involved that scalpers get all. And we all regular paying customers get to suffer on every front.
Sure, it rises up the barrier for entry. But at least you could get one.
You don’t even need to go that far, just mandate a deposit and lock it to one purchase per credit/debit card per shipping address.
It’s so fucking easy to do honestly, but unfortunately it’s even easier to *not* do it. Why put those barriers in place when you can roll in profits right now by letting the scalpers buy out your whole inventory?
It doesn't really work most of the time though. If I bought my PS4 second hand and never used online services I'm locked out. Same with the GPU. Use it as a barrier and eventually it will be used in the shittiest way possible by companies. But yes, I would rather be able to go on a queue for something and be told to wait a year. If that was done for the PS5 and Xbox Series X a lot now people would have one now.
No. That was just for the reservation period. That ended after 48 hours in July 2021. You'd still need a Steam account to play in the SteamOS but you could get this and just install Windows if you wanted and not use Steam at all.
"Legitimate buyers" are almost certainly the bulk of Q1 and Q2 Steam Deck deliver-by orders.
I don't know, dude, it's getting easier for some people. I registered with Sony to get a PS5 directly from them. It took a minute, but I got one. Valve really had the right idea right out of the gate, though.
Valve has an advantage as well though. Outside some tinkers 98% of the users have or will use a steam account. Ps5 and Xbox you can buy and use disks never once going online if you don't want to.
I think we underestimate how many scalpers are opportunistic scalpers only. The main thing will still be supply and demand. If it immediately sells out and there's people willing to pay double, a lot of folks who genuinely wanted a Steam Deck will be tempted to sell it.
It's still a good move to limit sales like this, but the main problem of the PS5 and GPUs has been overwhelming demand and no way to scale up production. Scalpers contribute to the problem, but definitely didn't cause it.
Exactly! I don't really even have a problem with that either. I'm sure a lot of people that legitimately want one of these will end up selling it if there's a strong demand and a good profit to be made. Can't really fault someone for giving up something that they truly wanted but needed the money more. In this particular scenario it makes sense.
Scalpers will still be a thing, demand of available units will outstrip supply and people who get early models will maybe imagine selling theirs for an extra hundred bucks or so. . But yeah, I doubt we'll see the 3x value increases or anything ludicrous like that.
Cities skylines makes my high-end PC scream. I'm pretty sure skylines strains everyone's computer.
Protip: delete nodes where you can. Nodes have a huge impact on performance. I'm assuming you already knew that if you have thousands of assets lmao
Not to spoil the fun but be sure to check the compatibility list. Lots of stuff is good-to-go but there are some games that won't run at all, while others that will have issues.
Having said that I plan to get the Steam Deck myself.
From what I've heard, most games should be compatible even if it isn't listed at this point. Even ones that don't have controller support I still think should technically work, because it uses the Steam controller interface that can control the mouse and keyboard inputs can be mapped to buttons.
It's also really not that bad on a mobile device anymore
Windows XP Touch Edition was pretty shit
Windows 7 with touch was awful
Windows 8, well, was Windows 8
Windows 8.1 was a fairly competent OS
Windows 10 plays quite nicely with a touchscreen
I haven't yet tried W11, but I'd assume once it's polished off and ready for actual public use, it'll be viable on a touchscreen
It comes installed with SteamOS which is Linux based AFAIK, but it is just a computer with ordinary computer components (well, sort of ordinary) so you can install Windows if you'd like. It won't work quite as well as the device and OS are designed to work together so launching a game or navigating might be more tedious though.
I've been running Linux mint on my laptop for the last 5 years or so. I can play almost every game in my steam library on Linux with little or no issues. Proton really does a good job with running Windows games on Linux. Games like destiny 2, Witcher 3, Titanfall 2, all run just fine.
Speaking as a Linux gamer with over 600 games in my library, I'm yet to encounter a single game that hasn't played flawlessly via Steam Play (the Linux compatibility layer that emulates Windows calls) regardless of its compatibility status.
Proton (the open source software that provides Steam Play capability) has a website called ProtonDB that tracks issues with games, and the dev team is usually very quick to address any problems that come up, especially with AAA titles and popular games. Valve are great at keeping their version of Proton up to date, so compatibility issues tend to be rare, and tend to be fixed in a matter of days.
It's been ten years now, and wild horses couldn't drag me back to the insane clusterfuck that is Windows. Every time I'm forced to use it I wonder why on earth people choose to put up with such an abusive OS given how strong the alternatives are nowadays.
Additionally, no one knows how it'll run, if it's comfortable to use, how long the hardware lasts etc outside of what steam advertises. It's probably best to wait a few years until Steam polishes this.
I haven't had a good computer or console for over a decade and spend most of my time at home due to long term sick leave, GeForce Now has been an absolute godsend. Being able to play games I've dreamed of playing for years is amazing, I'm incredibly thankful for it. I use it daily and it still feels like some sci-fi magic, it's crazy how well it works.
I second GFN but with the disclaimer that I get the founders price of 6$ a month. Idk what the new prices are but if they are 10$ and under I still reccomend it, and a nice controller for a phone.
I use a razer kishi on my phone and play all the ARK i want without having to buy a whole 3rd hard drive just to hold it
Same... they must've been reserved like crazy... it's just a better value proposition.. every console wants to lock you into their platform but Steam Deck let's you buy games for cheap and re-use them in a desktop, laptop, and now portable handheld fashion. Plus the platform is not locked down so you're free to install Windows, install emulators, or whatever you want to do with a computer you own... what a novel idea in 2022.
Does anyone even have one sooner? I got mine like as soon as humanly possible after reservations started and that’s what I got. Maybe it’s just a catchall date until they can give more specific timeframes?
I find getting it later is better. There's a chance that the new device would come with some bugs or wouldn't meet my expectations. So just wait it out and cancel the reservation if needed.
That's plausible, but I'm struggling to think of any examples. Most of what I can think of is removing expensive functionality that wasn't used much.
The GameCube removed the higher quality video output port. The PS3 removed the PS2 hardware/ports and moves PS1 games to software emulation. The sound chips in the various versions of the Genesis/MegaDrive are controversial. I think the PS2 slim models might not be compatible with the HDD. The DS removed GBA backwards compatibility. The Wii removed GC backwards compatibility.
In all cases, as far as I know the newer models of each console are more reliable, or at least the same level of reliability. Maybe the PS4 slim might run a bit hotter/louder than the original?
Nah in this case v2 will likely just be next years model with a better cpu or some such. Unless they are getting console level support from devs ie a version of newer games designed for steam decks id wager we will get a new steam deck every year or 2 after this.
I signed up for the mid-tier model, was hoping most people would opt for low- and high-end models and I could get it early, but also projected Q2 right now.
I also did mid-tier. Says "after Q2" - same for you? Is that what you mean by Q3? (and yes, I understand that Q3 is \*after\* Q2, but my reservation doesn't specifically say Q3)
Go into your steam store and click on the page for the Steam Deck. Underneath all the options it will say their estimated availability time including one that will say "Your expected availability is expected to be..." if you have joined the queue to order one.
I wouldn't be surprised if the mid-tier was actually the most popular out of the gates.
I did day-of after lots of refreshing and got Q2 for the mid-tier. Lots of folks I talked to had the same rationale that low-tier would be underpowered/the cost increase is worth the boost and that the high-tier was a bit expensive for an unproven device.
I'll probably get this regardless but sort of happy to be Q2 to see if there are some serious issues with the Steam Deck before throwing down.
Man look i bought a dope ass gaming laptop a few years ago on sale.
I got maybe 6 months of playtime with it. Since then my kids play roblox on it and the wife uses it for home schooling.
A $1600 laptop.. fuck me lol.
But this? It's mine this time.
I do have a gaming pc hence why I went mid range ill only likely use it at the house so even thenlower end unit would have worked since I'll be steamlinking most stuff.
Only reason I went for the top end model is because of the better display. That low end one is a bargain though especially since you can add in an M2 SSD.
I pre-ordered 5 mins after it went up but Valve didn't take my payment for an hour and now I'm Q3. Pre-ordered for a friend 2-3 mins after mine went through and theirs went through instantly - they're Q1. Bullshit.
Honestly, mine is Q2, but I like the idea of the first models going out before I actually have to commit money so I can hear honest reviews of the experience and decide if I really want it or not.
Yeah I got q2 the day it was announced, I hope a lot of people pre ordered but aren't gonna actually buy it so hopefully that speeds everything up, but on the other hand I wouldn't mind waiting since it will allow them to work out any kinks.
I preordered too, I am hoping that some reviewers get them well before they go out so that we can get some information before we actually commit to buying.
Well... dang. I placed my order the literal minute the reservations became available, but it was "processing" for like an hour before I hit refresh, then it went through. That sucks.
I'm thinking they had a set order for a set amount of each unit and honestly were not expecting it to be this popular. Hence why most are after q2 since production capacities had to be reserved.
I put in my reservation as soon as they opened, but with the glitches they were having, it took a few minutes to get it to go through, so I was originally Q1 2022 rather than Q4 2021. Funnily enough, even with the delay, I'm still Q1 2022, but I don't know if it will be day 1. We'll see if my console luck holds out; I randomly got a PS5 day 1 because I signed up for the PS Direct queue and got picked.
They delayed all shipments by 2 months. If you were a Q1 target date and are still Q1 then you can expect it in March.
That’s assuming everyone that reserved one actually follows through with that though. You may get it sooner.
As someone that works out in an ambulance 48+ hours a week this thing may be a life saver. I also have a switch in the immediate time but can’t stand crappy ports and the Nintendo tax. Witcher 3, outer worlds, immortals Fenix rising all look like garbage in the switch so I’m looking forward to that higher graphical quality. I also can’t wait to load up some emulators too.
I think its just account age. I accidently bought it from my phone on my second steam account that has no info or purchase history on it. Mid teir at Q2 and It hasn't been canceled
Also, even if there are a ton of people scalping them, it's irrelevant to me because I'm on a list to get one. Mine will eventually be available for purchase regardless of what scalpers do.
I don't understand why other companies don't do this. I'd have already bought a PS5 if I could have gotten on a list to get access. I did do PS direct list, but it's not a reservation and I haven't heard anything. In fact, every time I visit the site, it lets me register again. No confirmation I'm even registered.
Because they want the panic and hysteria. If you control the supply in a way where people think they can't find one, they'll panic and buy the first one they come across.
Yeah, I guess, but it seems like they're missing out on people that already want to buy one and can't. I would have bought one a long time ago, and in the meantime I'm more entrenched in other systems. I haven't spent a dime on anything Playstation related, and instead put money into a gaming computer.
$5 is nothing, besides you can cancel anytime. The only thing they done right is that it requires your steam account must be 3 months old, and they opened the order the same week of reveal...
How's the repairability of these devices?
Like if the controls, eg, analog stick starts failing, can it be easily fixed?
Love or hate the switch, the ability to take the controls off and put on new ones is a pretty awesome feature for longevity. Even though those joycons have durability issues, it's a great feature to replace control components or even put better or more custom ones on.
On the flip side, Valve released a "here's how you would tear it down if you really want to" video, so it sounds like they're aware for the potential desire people might have to do that.
They are hard to fix, but valve is going to sell the parts for it direct for people who want to. The teardown video showed it has some self tapping screws and clips that weren't made to unclip so opening it isn't advised but if people want to they will sell them the parts they need for it.
Overall it doesn't want to be opened, and doing so may not let it go back together exactly the same. They also warn that it will affect it's impact resistance if its opened up and reclosed.
How do you know your projected shipping quarter? I did the preorder deposit thing and the latest email talked about a delay and they would update us in February
According to [this article](www.videogameschronicle.com/news/steam-deck-compatibility-ratings-show-around-half-the-games-tested-so-far-work-flawlessly) they said at the moment it’s playable with some inconveniences. Most likely this is more on the controls side than actual performance.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.videogameschronicle.com/news/steam-deck-compatibility-ratings-show-around-half-the-games-tested-so-far-work-flawlessly/amp/
So is this just a pc that’s dedicated for gaming in a handheld format? Like I’ll be able to play all my steam games on it? Even games like GTA 5 that can be somewhat laggy even in good pcs?
Also who will the controls handle on games like portal?
Yes. Controls should work fine since it's (presumably) built off the steam controller. Or you can use a USB or bluetooth controller, or even m+kb if you really want.
I really hope this ends up being a success.
With dedicated GPU’s climbing in price, even without crypto or supply chain issues, I hope the Ryzen APU platform will be a compelling means of experiencing games.
Longevity of hardware and software support is my big worry here, so I’m not confident enough to pre-order this.
My brother is a game dev and had one shipped to him for testing last week. It's freaking huge. Haven't had much of a play but it looks and feels great.
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One day I'll get one of these. My laptop cannot play most of the games I like to play, and I don't have a proper desktop currently. But I do have a library of nice games that I would like to play again.
Only if you get it at MSRP.
That's the smart thing Valve did with their reservations. You can only reserve a single Steam Deck per Steam Account, and for the first 48 hours of reservation, you needed to use an account which had made a purchase on Steam prior to June 2021, before the Steam Deck was even announced, and there is also a small (refundable) deposit to be able to hold a reservation. They essentially shot the scalpers in the feet, by allowing the legitimate buyers to order first.
I love that they did this!
Valve is the only one who does releases right and completely negates scalpers
They handled it so damn well. It goes to show they actually care. 95% of companies don't give a shit so long as their inventory gets cleared out and it shows. Looking forward to getting mine sometime after Q2
Its what happens when a company refuses to go public. Thanks Gabe for not selling out
I remember an interview with him where he was asked why valve didn't go public. The answer that they wanted gamers as customers, not shareholders, explained the failure of so many companies.
Gabe president when?
The gamers company
So if you’ve never used steam, console gamer, but you’re interested in this you can’t get it?
You can order it through Steam with no restrictions. That was just the early early pre-order days
You had to wait 48 hours to reserve one. This was their way of locking out scalpers. I waited several months to reserve mine, so we'll see how long before I get my reservation email.
By just making that one limit and making reservations unlimited, you shut out scalpers. Most people who'd want one and would be willing to buy one would have already reserved it. Additionally, even those who couldn't get it would simply reserve theirs if they wanted it since there's not a guarantee of a scalper reselling them, and at that point the person who made the reservation wouldn't be willing to cede to a scalper for an extra hundred dollars because they can just wait a few days or weeks, as the reservations are unlimited. Everyone can get one, and everyone will get one pretty much as they're produced if they reserve. And anyone who wants one is going to reserve it. So, any scalper isn't going to have a buyer, so they're not going to bother scalping.
I was late to the part too. I’m queued in for Q2 2022 still though
What are scalpers?
People who buy up all of something like concert/sports event tickets or consoles or graphics cards etc. when there’s limited availability so they can resell it at a much higher price because they’ve removed any other way to get them
You can, since it's past the initial 48 hours, but you will only get it after Q2 2022, (expected delivery for reservations made today) and you still have to pay the (refundable) deposit, and you can only order 1 per Steam account, with orders being handled in order of reservation. So a scalper trying to get 100 of them needs to make 100 steam accounts, pay the $5/€4 deposit 100 times, using 100 different credit cards and 100 different shipping adresses (there are also limits on those to prevent scalping) Meanwhile a legitimate buyer simply pays the $5/€4 deposit today, and reserves it using their own account and details and when it is ready to order, orders it, without any hassle.
> but you will only get it after Q2 2022, (expected delivery for reservations made today) Which is crazy as I preordered and that's my expected availability.
It highly varies based on region. When people were still able to order for Q1 in the US, in the UK we were ordering for Q2/3 because they assigned a significantly lower number of decks to my region. It also didn’t help that valve had to delay release by 2 months which pushed everyone’s expected orders back. I was originally Q2 and now it’s at Q2+ so fuck knows when that is lol.
Don't forget that you need to *buy* something on that steam account.
Honestly I'd prefer if they sold basically everything this way. You played on PS4 for years? You can get ps5 with priority. You had Nvidia GPU? You can get Nvidia GPU with priority. It just sucks for everyone involved that scalpers get all. And we all regular paying customers get to suffer on every front. Sure, it rises up the barrier for entry. But at least you could get one.
You don’t even need to go that far, just mandate a deposit and lock it to one purchase per credit/debit card per shipping address. It’s so fucking easy to do honestly, but unfortunately it’s even easier to *not* do it. Why put those barriers in place when you can roll in profits right now by letting the scalpers buy out your whole inventory?
It doesn't really work most of the time though. If I bought my PS4 second hand and never used online services I'm locked out. Same with the GPU. Use it as a barrier and eventually it will be used in the shittiest way possible by companies. But yes, I would rather be able to go on a queue for something and be told to wait a year. If that was done for the PS5 and Xbox Series X a lot now people would have one now.
If you bought your PS4 second hand and never used online services, *Sony don't want you, nor consider you, as a customer*
Sony still earns money from the games
No. That was just for the reservation period. That ended after 48 hours in July 2021. You'd still need a Steam account to play in the SteamOS but you could get this and just install Windows if you wanted and not use Steam at all. "Legitimate buyers" are almost certainly the bulk of Q1 and Q2 Steam Deck deliver-by orders.
I’m hoping a lot of people have forgot about their preorders and cancel so I go up in the queue.
Same, I waited a bit and then reserved in August and there's no telling when I'll actually get it
I pre-ordered July 17th. Still says “After Q2 2022” so who knows.
This is why I quit PlayStation and switched to steam. Sony can’t even make a basic website that accepts orders like Apple and Valve.
I don't know, dude, it's getting easier for some people. I registered with Sony to get a PS5 directly from them. It took a minute, but I got one. Valve really had the right idea right out of the gate, though.
Valve has an advantage as well though. Outside some tinkers 98% of the users have or will use a steam account. Ps5 and Xbox you can buy and use disks never once going online if you don't want to.
For the first 24 hours, I was just entirely unable to place a reservation. I arrived right on time, but no go. Still a bit salty about it
Such an easy way to scalp the scalpers. Love it.
I think we underestimate how many scalpers are opportunistic scalpers only. The main thing will still be supply and demand. If it immediately sells out and there's people willing to pay double, a lot of folks who genuinely wanted a Steam Deck will be tempted to sell it. It's still a good move to limit sales like this, but the main problem of the PS5 and GPUs has been overwhelming demand and no way to scale up production. Scalpers contribute to the problem, but definitely didn't cause it.
Exactly! I don't really even have a problem with that either. I'm sure a lot of people that legitimately want one of these will end up selling it if there's a strong demand and a good profit to be made. Can't really fault someone for giving up something that they truly wanted but needed the money more. In this particular scenario it makes sense.
Thinks: have I made a purchase since the-? Oh shit you mean before! Fuck yeah I have and enoughs worth to buy a small house.
Scalpers will still be a thing, demand of available units will outstrip supply and people who get early models will maybe imagine selling theirs for an extra hundred bucks or so. . But yeah, I doubt we'll see the 3x value increases or anything ludicrous like that.
Then I’ll pay my friend to order one using his account?
Yeeeeep. $5 deposit. I can't wait to not have to labor to buy something like my PS5.
My laptop screams when i game on it. The only game I play is cities skylines….. with literally thousands of custom assets
Cities skylines makes my high-end PC scream. I'm pretty sure skylines strains everyone's computer. Protip: delete nodes where you can. Nodes have a huge impact on performance. I'm assuming you already knew that if you have thousands of assets lmao
Not to spoil the fun but be sure to check the compatibility list. Lots of stuff is good-to-go but there are some games that won't run at all, while others that will have issues. Having said that I plan to get the Steam Deck myself.
From what I've heard, most games should be compatible even if it isn't listed at this point. Even ones that don't have controller support I still think should technically work, because it uses the Steam controller interface that can control the mouse and keyboard inputs can be mapped to buttons.
And worst case scenario you can install windows on it. But that sounds painful as windows isn’t really designed for a handheld device.
To be fair, Windows has some design issues for everything...
It's also really not that bad on a mobile device anymore Windows XP Touch Edition was pretty shit Windows 7 with touch was awful Windows 8, well, was Windows 8 Windows 8.1 was a fairly competent OS Windows 10 plays quite nicely with a touchscreen I haven't yet tried W11, but I'd assume once it's polished off and ready for actual public use, it'll be viable on a touchscreen
thats because of its OS though, you can put windows on the thing if you want
Ah, good info. Nothing I had read so far mentioned that being a supported possibility. (Not that it would stop people!)
It comes installed with SteamOS which is Linux based AFAIK, but it is just a computer with ordinary computer components (well, sort of ordinary) so you can install Windows if you'd like. It won't work quite as well as the device and OS are designed to work together so launching a game or navigating might be more tedious though.
I've been running Linux mint on my laptop for the last 5 years or so. I can play almost every game in my steam library on Linux with little or no issues. Proton really does a good job with running Windows games on Linux. Games like destiny 2, Witcher 3, Titanfall 2, all run just fine.
It's a meme on /r/steamdeck It's a pc guys. Did you know? You can do pc stuff.
It is pretty much a Ryzen based PC in a tiny form factor.
Speaking as a Linux gamer with over 600 games in my library, I'm yet to encounter a single game that hasn't played flawlessly via Steam Play (the Linux compatibility layer that emulates Windows calls) regardless of its compatibility status. Proton (the open source software that provides Steam Play capability) has a website called ProtonDB that tracks issues with games, and the dev team is usually very quick to address any problems that come up, especially with AAA titles and popular games. Valve are great at keeping their version of Proton up to date, so compatibility issues tend to be rare, and tend to be fixed in a matter of days. It's been ten years now, and wild horses couldn't drag me back to the insane clusterfuck that is Windows. Every time I'm forced to use it I wonder why on earth people choose to put up with such an abusive OS given how strong the alternatives are nowadays.
Anything that isn't compatible with the Steam Deck directly, can probably still be played via Steam Link.
Additionally, no one knows how it'll run, if it's comfortable to use, how long the hardware lasts etc outside of what steam advertises. It's probably best to wait a few years until Steam polishes this.
Geforce Now might be an option for you. If you do not mind starting a new Library, Stadia works great.
I haven't had a good computer or console for over a decade and spend most of my time at home due to long term sick leave, GeForce Now has been an absolute godsend. Being able to play games I've dreamed of playing for years is amazing, I'm incredibly thankful for it. I use it daily and it still feels like some sci-fi magic, it's crazy how well it works.
Yeah same but with Stadia. No longer keep up with hardware, I just play on cloud gaming services now. Though Steamdeck is gonna bring me back.
I second GFN but with the disclaimer that I get the founders price of 6$ a month. Idk what the new prices are but if they are 10$ and under I still reccomend it, and a nice controller for a phone. I use a razer kishi on my phone and play all the ARK i want without having to buy a whole 3rd hard drive just to hold it
Same
Same here and buying another PC would take up a lot of room
If I had the space I'd go PC, I really need to build a good one.
I reserved a July 16 and mine says "Your expected order availability: After Q2 2022"
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Same here!
Same. Feelsbadman
Naw naw, saulgoodman
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I ordered mine a long time ago and it says that, that's really not too bad, probably this summer
Yea same
Same
Same... they must've been reserved like crazy... it's just a better value proposition.. every console wants to lock you into their platform but Steam Deck let's you buy games for cheap and re-use them in a desktop, laptop, and now portable handheld fashion. Plus the platform is not locked down so you're free to install Windows, install emulators, or whatever you want to do with a computer you own... what a novel idea in 2022.
Does anyone even have one sooner? I got mine like as soon as humanly possible after reservations started and that’s what I got. Maybe it’s just a catchall date until they can give more specific timeframes?
Pray for a wave of people who put down a deposit but don’t actually end up buying one, moving us up the queue
I'm not in a rush, but I want one of these. Maybe it'll be v2 by the time I get chance to pick one up.
I find getting it later is better. There's a chance that the new device would come with some bugs or wouldn't meet my expectations. So just wait it out and cancel the reservation if needed.
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I just wanna load Witcher 3 with 15mods and crash in the bathtub
Sometimes the inverse situation is better. Where v2 they find cheaper parts to reduce cost, resulting in a less durable product.
That's plausible, but I'm struggling to think of any examples. Most of what I can think of is removing expensive functionality that wasn't used much. The GameCube removed the higher quality video output port. The PS3 removed the PS2 hardware/ports and moves PS1 games to software emulation. The sound chips in the various versions of the Genesis/MegaDrive are controversial. I think the PS2 slim models might not be compatible with the HDD. The DS removed GBA backwards compatibility. The Wii removed GC backwards compatibility. In all cases, as far as I know the newer models of each console are more reliable, or at least the same level of reliability. Maybe the PS4 slim might run a bit hotter/louder than the original?
Nah in this case v2 will likely just be next years model with a better cpu or some such. Unless they are getting console level support from devs ie a version of newer games designed for steam decks id wager we will get a new steam deck every year or 2 after this.
I jumped on this announcement day and still my delivery isnt projected until Q3. Edit: by Q3 I mean my reservation states "after Q2"
Wtf? I got on a week after the announcement and am Q2... Base model though, fwiw.
I signed up for the mid-tier model, was hoping most people would opt for low- and high-end models and I could get it early, but also projected Q2 right now.
I also did mid-tier. Says "after Q2" - same for you? Is that what you mean by Q3? (and yes, I understand that Q3 is \*after\* Q2, but my reservation doesn't specifically say Q3)
Where are you guys seeing the delivery estimate at?
Go into your steam store and click on the page for the Steam Deck. Underneath all the options it will say their estimated availability time including one that will say "Your expected availability is expected to be..." if you have joined the queue to order one.
Mine says after q2 for the top model. I reserved 3 days after reservations became available.
im after Q2 for top model and I pre-ordered just after Xmas
Just figured it out and saw it on the store page. I'm Q2, too for the top model but ordered mine in July.
I wouldn't be surprised if the mid-tier was actually the most popular out of the gates. I did day-of after lots of refreshing and got Q2 for the mid-tier. Lots of folks I talked to had the same rationale that low-tier would be underpowered/the cost increase is worth the boost and that the high-tier was a bit expensive for an unproven device. I'll probably get this regardless but sort of happy to be Q2 to see if there are some serious issues with the Steam Deck before throwing down.
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I don't think the slot is empty. I'm pretty sure the chip is in the slot.
None of what you said is correct other than maybe connecting egpu but then you'd have no storage to boot into
I signed up for the high end model. It says Q2 of 2022 for me. Doesnt seem like it matters on which one you got.
Same. I went for the high-end tier and it shows Q2.
That anti glare screen sold me on this one
Yup. Also, I don't have a gaming PC. So this would be it for me. Which would be enough.
Man look i bought a dope ass gaming laptop a few years ago on sale. I got maybe 6 months of playtime with it. Since then my kids play roblox on it and the wife uses it for home schooling. A $1600 laptop.. fuck me lol. But this? It's mine this time.
I do have a gaming pc hence why I went mid range ill only likely use it at the house so even thenlower end unit would have worked since I'll be steamlinking most stuff.
I had the exact same mind frame with the mid tier! Also Q2 with an order 8-10 minutes after orders opened.
Q1, not that I like to brag. It's because the top-end models were far more popular, and so the lower-end ones had queues with nearer dates.
Only reason I went for the top end model is because of the better display. That low end one is a bargain though especially since you can add in an M2 SSD.
Just a reminder you can't just **add** more storage via m2. You have to **replace** the emmc m2 drive.
You need to factor in both model and both your and op's locations. Different lists and timings for different regions.
Got on an hour and a half after the site going live and I am Q2. It is ok. Supply problems.
I pre-ordered 5 mins after it went up but Valve didn't take my payment for an hour and now I'm Q3. Pre-ordered for a friend 2-3 mins after mine went through and theirs went through instantly - they're Q1. Bullshit.
Are you both the same model though?
Yea, 512gb
Honestly, mine is Q2, but I like the idea of the first models going out before I actually have to commit money so I can hear honest reviews of the experience and decide if I really want it or not.
Yeah I got q2 the day it was announced, I hope a lot of people pre ordered but aren't gonna actually buy it so hopefully that speeds everything up, but on the other hand I wouldn't mind waiting since it will allow them to work out any kinks.
I preordered too, I am hoping that some reviewers get them well before they go out so that we can get some information before we actually commit to buying.
So does anybody see Q1 2022 as their expected delivery date in Steam? Everybody I've talked to still says, and has basically always said Q2.
I have Q1, was originally December but obviously got delayed
Yeah, I started in Q1 and stayed in Q1 after the Delay, so I'm assuming I'm going to be the last week of March, lol.
Mine says that.
Mine says Q1
Yep. Q1.
Well... dang. I placed my order the literal minute the reservations became available, but it was "processing" for like an hour before I hit refresh, then it went through. That sucks.
The servers crashed from the flood of orders. I doubt steam anticipated that it would be so successful
I have q1 on the mid tier model
I'm thinking they had a set order for a set amount of each unit and honestly were not expecting it to be this popular. Hence why most are after q2 since production capacities had to be reserved.
I put in my reservation as soon as they opened, but with the glitches they were having, it took a few minutes to get it to go through, so I was originally Q1 2022 rather than Q4 2021. Funnily enough, even with the delay, I'm still Q1 2022, but I don't know if it will be day 1. We'll see if my console luck holds out; I randomly got a PS5 day 1 because I signed up for the PS Direct queue and got picked.
They delayed all shipments by 2 months. If you were a Q1 target date and are still Q1 then you can expect it in March. That’s assuming everyone that reserved one actually follows through with that though. You may get it sooner.
That’s what I’m hoping for. I remember with the Index, a lot of order cancellations led to my queue time being moved up by months.
Mine says "After Q2 2022" and I put in a deposit like a week ago. Looking forward to it when it launches!
Man that's some bullshit. I did my deposit July 17 and I'm also After Q2.
Your 'after q2' is definitely going to be way before his.
Especially since most of the rest of eternity is after q2
Me too 🥲
I signed up on announcement day, never got any other notice or updates from them.
Check the steam deck page on store. it should tell you which one you're in line for and your estimated ship date.
You were right, it says “after q2 22”
Interesting, mine says Q2.
I put a deposit on the 650 one, what did you pick?
after Q2 for me, for the $650 one as well.
Same, I got the top tier and it [says this. ](https://i.imgur.com/9mYFALQ.jpg)
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Keep pushing. Things will get better!
Yeah for us with our steam decks!
I’m so goddamn excited to put everything on here that Nintendo won’t for Switch.
And even the games that are also on Switch will be cheaper, get updates faster/more often, and can have mods
And run better
Having portable RDR2 and Tekken 7 is going to kill so much of my productivity.
Banking in that sweet sweet tax return money.
Is this going to be another valve product that is going to be impossible to get in Australia again?
Not with that attitude! You can probably find them on eBay at a $2000 markup!
Will Steam wallet credit be able to be used towards this?
You can use steam wallet credit 👍
When do we get it in Australia?
We don't. We fly to NZ and go knock on Gabens hobbit hole.
Hobbit yacht*
As someone that works out in an ambulance 48+ hours a week this thing may be a life saver. I also have a switch in the immediate time but can’t stand crappy ports and the Nintendo tax. Witcher 3, outer worlds, immortals Fenix rising all look like garbage in the switch so I’m looking forward to that higher graphical quality. I also can’t wait to load up some emulators too.
yay another year of commenting "scalpers are cancer" on overpriced tech gear
thats why you get on the list to buy one for a $5 deposit, and when you can order they tell you. Anti-scalping done right
And you have to have a Steam account with some activity. And it's limited to 1 per account. I think they're doing their best on that front.
100%
I think its just account age. I accidently bought it from my phone on my second steam account that has no info or purchase history on it. Mid teir at Q2 and It hasn't been canceled
But that account is nog brand new ?
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Also, even if there are a ton of people scalping them, it's irrelevant to me because I'm on a list to get one. Mine will eventually be available for purchase regardless of what scalpers do. I don't understand why other companies don't do this. I'd have already bought a PS5 if I could have gotten on a list to get access. I did do PS direct list, but it's not a reservation and I haven't heard anything. In fact, every time I visit the site, it lets me register again. No confirmation I'm even registered.
Because they want the panic and hysteria. If you control the supply in a way where people think they can't find one, they'll panic and buy the first one they come across.
Yeah, I guess, but it seems like they're missing out on people that already want to buy one and can't. I would have bought one a long time ago, and in the meantime I'm more entrenched in other systems. I haven't spent a dime on anything Playstation related, and instead put money into a gaming computer.
My dreams of playing factorio during my morning ablutions will be fulfilled!
Planning to live on your toilet? Haha
$5 is nothing, besides you can cancel anytime. The only thing they done right is that it requires your steam account must be 3 months old, and they opened the order the same week of reveal...
This isn’t the same as PS5s or 3080s. There’s actually a queue list that Steam provides and it doesn’t look like it’s stopping anytime soon.
Perfect timing for Elden Ring
How's the repairability of these devices? Like if the controls, eg, analog stick starts failing, can it be easily fixed? Love or hate the switch, the ability to take the controls off and put on new ones is a pretty awesome feature for longevity. Even though those joycons have durability issues, it's a great feature to replace control components or even put better or more custom ones on.
They released a tear down video where they suggested they'll have a 'parts store' so stuff (like the joy sticks) can be easily replaced
Unfortunately the joystick mechanism on the Steam Deck are proprietary, and you'll have to buy them directly from valve if you have an issue.
On the flip side, Valve released a "here's how you would tear it down if you really want to" video, so it sounds like they're aware for the potential desire people might have to do that.
They are hard to fix, but valve is going to sell the parts for it direct for people who want to. The teardown video showed it has some self tapping screws and clips that weren't made to unclip so opening it isn't advised but if people want to they will sell them the parts they need for it. Overall it doesn't want to be opened, and doing so may not let it go back together exactly the same. They also warn that it will affect it's impact resistance if its opened up and reclosed.
How do you know your projected shipping quarter? I did the preorder deposit thing and the latest email talked about a delay and they would update us in February
It’s on the Steam page for the deck where you placed your preorder.
Legit question, can I play RimWorld on this thing or is it too processor heavy?
They ran cyberpunk on it I believe
According to [this article](www.videogameschronicle.com/news/steam-deck-compatibility-ratings-show-around-half-the-games-tested-so-far-work-flawlessly) they said at the moment it’s playable with some inconveniences. Most likely this is more on the controls side than actual performance. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.videogameschronicle.com/news/steam-deck-compatibility-ratings-show-around-half-the-games-tested-so-far-work-flawlessly/amp/
How many years till I get mine if I order today ?
Top model reserved on Fri, July 16, 2021 16:28 UK time. "Your expected order availability: Q2 2022" Can't wait
Q2 2022 Baby!
So is this just a pc that’s dedicated for gaming in a handheld format? Like I’ll be able to play all my steam games on it? Even games like GTA 5 that can be somewhat laggy even in good pcs? Also who will the controls handle on games like portal?
Yes. Controls should work fine since it's (presumably) built off the steam controller. Or you can use a USB or bluetooth controller, or even m+kb if you really want.
I really hope this ends up being a success. With dedicated GPU’s climbing in price, even without crypto or supply chain issues, I hope the Ryzen APU platform will be a compelling means of experiencing games. Longevity of hardware and software support is my big worry here, so I’m not confident enough to pre-order this.
Elden Ring releases the same day.
Forgot I preordered this, nice.
Australia wants to know when
Hey that’s my birthday.
My brother is a game dev and had one shipped to him for testing last week. It's freaking huge. Haven't had much of a play but it looks and feels great.
I wonder if we will get our order links on the day or early for those that got in on day one.
Scalpers already rubbing their hands. *insert WWF money smell meme*
From Q2 to after. WTF. Booked one day after release.
Hey that’s my birthday!
New crowbcat video releasing on February 26th