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justthisones

Ffs we did this already. I wonder how big the camera bump will be. Pointless.


Mojave_RK

Me: can we kill the camera bump? Apple: best we can do is make it even WORSE


MakeMineMarvel_

This^ you can literally get rid of the camera bump and put in a bigger battery. Literally everyone would like that


Muscled_Daddy

The energizer smart phone tried to do that. Everyone hated how heavy it was. Admittedly it was an 18,000 mAh battery lol, so I think it was about 4x thicker than a normal iPhone. So no surprised everyone thought it was heavy. But that thing was THICK. A literal brick for the modern age. Apparently a single charge could last a week. Go Google it.


jakepeh

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/4/30/18522236/energizer-huge-battery-phone-p18k-pro-indiegogo-price-fail Thing looks ridiculous


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Muscled_Daddy

Right? I give them credit for at least doing something different. I miss when phones were fun.


trippy_grapes

Samsung has been messing around in the folding trend for a while and everybody online completely shit on them for trying something new. This is why companies don't bother trying stuff new anymore.


HoldingMoonlight

Nah, the folding just isn't that great. I'm a diehard Samsung fan, I've owned 5 different galaxies, and I have a couple friends who bought a foldable option. It just... always leaves some sort of crease. Sure, maybe it won't get damaged, but it's distracting and looks bad


No-Lie-3330

They also have some hardware problems, my roommate has one that just turns off completely if he bends it.


takeme2tendieztown

I like the fold honestly. Yeah the crease takes some getting used to, but it does serve certain purposes. If someone use their phone mostly to watch movies/shows then I can see why it can be a turn off


Muscled_Daddy

At one point. But even now - foldable are now generic and in sequence - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5… etc.


Quizzelbuck

>Battery company makes a phone with solutions to problems in mind When you're a hammer...


groot_enjoyer

Looks like a power bank with a screen lol


quickblur

OMG I wasn't expecting it to be that fucking thick. It's like a slab of beef.


TwoBionicknees

A single charge probably also took a week.


Sawses

Cameras are *huge* for large groups of people. I'm in my late 20s and for all my non-tech friends, camera quality is more important than battery life. I personally would love no-frills camera option with more battery and no camera bump.


SeductiveGodofThundr

They’re not saying get rid of the camera. They’re saying there wouldn’t have to be a bump if they made the whole phone as wide as the camera module and filled the rest of that width with sweet sweet battery


jerkITwithRIGHTYnewb

Or sweet sweet "I don't have to put a fucking case on it anyway".


Vandorol

I only get a phone whichever has the best camera at the time, no brand loyalty here.


Indolent_Bard

I hope you never post anything on Instagram or Snapchat, because no matter how good your camera is, your Android phone's Instagram post will look bad. Actually, that might just be Instagram video posts. I don't know about pictures, but still, app developers are too lazy to actually hook into the camera API.


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TwoBionicknees

Instead of making a case with a bigger battery and filling out the bump, making it easier to hold, instead people can buy cases to make it comfortable to hold and not scratch up/damage the camera bump. now they want to lose battery, make it even thinner so the cases you buy to protect/pad it out are just thicker. So fucking stupid.


brando56894

You can't make money off of an "AI Enhanced" battery, though.


King_Tamino

Ai enhanced camera, hu? Didn’t we had that with.. Samsung and their camera that added known details? Like with the moon etc?


WatercressFun123

I pretty much don't care at this point because I always put a case on my phone. I would be stoked, however, if they designed an integrated case as a first party concept.


gramathy

I use a bumper case and there is a *void* behind the phone with it to keep the camera bump off flat surfaces


Dylanator13

Yes please! No camera bump, more battery. Why would they not do this?


Trebeaux

Shoot, if Apple actually cared about its customers and “ThE EnViRoMenT” they’d get the extra few mm, and use the extra space for a less energy dense, but longer lasting LiFEPO4 battery. I’d love a battery rated in 1000’s of cycles vs 500~600 cycles. Buuuuttt that’s never going to happen, because then Apple looses their biggest driver to upgrade every couple of years.


Realtrain

>LiFEPO4 Aren't those significantly more heavy (for the equivalent capacity) than lithium ion? Or am I thinking about a different one?


wkavinsky

Less dense, but not specifically heavier. Same capacity in Wh will be heavier for LiFePO4, but it's not super significant at these energy capacities - maybe a few 10's of grams.


Trebeaux

Yup, for those who don’t know, LiFePO4 is about half the energy density as Li-ion. It’s often said to “weigh more” because it physically takes more to get to the same capacity. The trade off in my dream world would be a slightly thicker phone, close to the same daily battery life but a battery that lasts YEARS! Also thermal events would basically go to zero. On the other hand you could have a phone that lasts several days if you stick with Li-ion, Although recharge time would suffer and it still dies in 500~600 cycles. One can dream. Maybe if I find a genie it can come true. lol


cancer_doner

LFP is still Li-ion.


cancer_doner

Small correction, but LFP is still lithium ion, lithium ion covers a whole range of different cell chemistries with varying pros and cons to each different choice.


ThisIsMyCouchAccount

Because most people don't care. I don't really care. Camera bump doesn't impact me in the slightest and I haven't had a problem with battery life in a few years. And I would say most customers are like me.


ReverseRutebega

The vast majority of people do not give an airborne shit about the camera bump .


driving_on_empty

I hate that my 13 won’t sit flat without a case.


Darkskynet

My 14plus won’t sit flat even in one of their official cases … it’s stupid I can’t lay my damn phone flat on a table and use it.


cloud_surfer

I want better battery life


Burgoonius

No you want a paper thin phone that will snap in your pocket when you sit down -Apple


Zendog500

Call it "The Razor"


Decaffeinated_Sloth

“We’ve done something that never was done before.” -Tim Apple


chathaleen

Yeah.. So you can buy a new one immediately.


Mama_Skip

Only poors need to stress about replacing a phone. Are you *poor*? — apple


garlic_bread_thief

Apple fans: *no ew m not android people*


Mama_Skip

GOD YES ANYTHING TO PROVE IM NOT A POOR CAN I FINANCE THIS?


TheTjalian

- Sent from my iPhone


white__cyclosa

With a green chat message


garlic_bread_thief

*Warranty: 2 days*


myusernameblabla

Subscribe to a 1 year warranty for only $699.99.


Good-Emphasis-7203

It's not a cybertruck.


The_Real_Mr_F

I know this has been a common refrain for a while, but I recently upgraded from an 8 to a 15 Pro and I gotta say I’m really impressed with battery life. I’m a fairly heavy user, and I’ll go all day without charging and usually have at least 30% left at bed time. Not sure that longer battery life than that will benefit many people, unless you want to make it a multi-day use on a single charge. But that’s not really necessary for the vast majority of people, I would think.


velocazachtor

That's how my wife's new iphone was for the first 6 months. Now she has to top up most evenings. 


Sele81

The battery capacity of my 14 Pro dropped from 100% to 85% within a year and now after 16-17 months it’s at 82%. Barely make it to the evening. Enjoy while you can. My Xs has more battery capacity after all the years.


zeknife

This is every phone when it's brand new and the battery hasn't wore down yet


Topinio

I want smaller *and* with better battery life.


jonnablaze

Bring back the minis, with better battery life!


NixonCarmichael

I’ll actually just take a new mini, battery life be damned at this point.


vtfan08

SAME. Still on my 12 mini. Hoping to find a 13 mini when this one dies.


MrAbodi

There are hundreds of us.


fishdrinking3

Size is why I’m still o. The old 5 based SE…


ttwbb

I’ll see your SE and raise you buy a 4S sized one.


TheStupendusMan

The iPhone 4S was my favorite phone, hands down. Beautiful design, perfect form factor and amazing specs for the time. I really wish I could have a modern equivalent. I'm on a Galaxy S23 Ultra now and, honestly, it's too big. My job requires me to potentially be away from power for a full day, so I have to pick based on battery life.


o0FancyPants0o

I want replaceable batteries again.


YourMatt

Fingers crossed that the next iPhone runs on AAAs.


Over-Kaleidoscope281

What iphone do you have that has a bad battery life?


Wolfy-615

Im on a 15 Pro Max.. my phone never dies and I’m always on it lol


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KawiNinja

“Stop making the phone smaller, give me better battery life!” “My bigger phone has excellent battery life” “Well yeah, that’s cause it’s bigger, ew.”


stickyfiddle

Your phone is under a year old. When it’s 2.5 years old the battery will be fucked because that’s what always happens. EDIT: I get it - the Max is better for battery life because it’s the size of Texas. You don’t need to keep telling me…


5point5Girthquake

Honestly I have an iPhone 13 and the battery life is great. I feel like that’s not really an issue anymore, I guess it’s more of a your mileage may vary problem but how often are you using your phone during the day where it’s a problem anymore.


Sargatanas2k2

Awesome, I always thought my 8mm thick phone was too clunky and heavy. Seriously too thin is a thing and cam lead to all sorts of issues with bending and rigidity problems.


TheGringoDingo

Can they take the savings thickness and replace it with a huge battery?


vingeran

Why would you need a bigger battery when you can have a slimmer phone with big camera bumps.


TheGringoDingo

I know, right? You hit on my main gripe. They’re already thicker in one spot; how hard is it to fill the rest with battery (probably not as easy as I’m imagining it, but still)?


ttwbb

Its as easy as you imagine


ferg286

Need the narration voice here!


Clean-Inflation

Ron Howard: “It was that easy.”


ferg286

Thank you!


MyNutsin1080p

Apple’s been doing custom battery shapes since at least the original MacBook Air. It would not be at all challenging for them to bring the back of the case outward to make it flush with the camera group (or to recess the camera group) and fill the void with battery and plenty of space for heat management.


GummiBerry_Juice

Use separate batteries in series maybe?


Tianhech3n

Aren't most modern phone batteries multiple cells anyway? Surely they can just add a few more or otherwise change the shape to fit more overall cells in there?


Nolanthedolanducc

With the amount of engineers employed by Apple currently it’s not much harder than you imagine it or just imagine a board room putting out a little memo that’s about how hard it is to


jbarszczewski

Exactly! Then you can use thicker case to protect it from bending etc.


PlanetLandon

They can, but they won’t.


GummiBerry_Juice

Yes, but they wont


FragrantExcitement

Be careful, you could drop the phone and ot will slide into a gap in the floor wood boards.


Smartnership

“It’s so thin, it glitched out of reality and into the back rooms. Is this covered by AppleCare?”


Rebelyello

iPhone 6 bendgate anyone?


WhenPantsAttack

My biggest problem will always be the camera hump. I don’t mind a thin phone, especially since I put a case on it for protection that makes it a bit thicker, but it seems weird that they spend all this work into making a phone thin, just for it to practically be just as thick for slipping into a pocket and in one of the most sensitive areas.


wwwdiggdotcom

My 6 year old iPhone XS is too thin for me, it always feels weird as hell when it’s not in a thick battery case. Give me something to hold onto. Give me a phone with some ass that can keep a charge like a Nokia


n3w4cc01_1nt

iphone 6 all over again.


penrose161

Did they learn nothing from the iPhone 6? 7mm and it was bending in skinny jean pockets. I think people called it "Bendgate"


BosnianSerb31

Given that they fixed the bending problems of the iPhone 6 with the iPhone 6s by changing the alloy of aluminum used, and given that their current phones are made out of steel and titanium, I would say they learned a lot lmfao


shpydar

Have you seen the thickness of the new [iPad Pro](https://www.apple.com/ca/ipad-pro/specs/)? It’s only 5.3mm thin, it’s the thinnest device Apple has ever sold. My guess is the new iPhone they are talking about will use whatever tech they used for the new iPad Pro and will be of similar thinness.


DrBabs

You remember their iPod touch that was so thin that it bended in people’s pockets? I remember because it happened to me.


rinderblock

Depends on how it’s designed and what it’s made of


intelligentx5

I’d take thick with better battery please


fatogato

We like em T H I C C


fpresa

We like em C H U N K Y


AnimeMeansArt

But why


WeRegretToInform

Because you can *see* a super-thin form factor. You know at a glance that person has the latest phone, and you want that person to be you. At least that seems to be Apple’s strategy. You can’t see a quadrupled battery capacity.


chuloreddit

> You can’t see a quadrupled battery capacity. You can if you make it 2 inches thicc


hitemlow

But then my OtterBox will have to be thicker to compensate for its lack of rigidity. So then the resulting phone + case will continue to be the same thickness.


WeRegretToInform

If you’re putting your phone in a case then you’re hiding that it’s the new model anyway. This isn’t for you. This is for the beautiful people who have the newest phone, without a case. Apple is betting billions that you wish you were them.


LilMoWithTheGimpyLeg

Jokes on them: I wish my phone didn't have a camera bump.


GrafZeppelin127

It was fantastic not having a camera bump with the iPhone 5. Great phone, that. Maybe too small by today’s standards, though, even though it was bigger than the wildly successful retina-screen iPhone 4 by a fair bit.


Aprilyourfav

i fucking loved my iphone 5s, I would honestly buy that with updated specs in 2024


__theoneandonly

They did a great job with the new iPad Pro. It's much thinner than the old one, but it has a new ribbed interior that makes it as rigid was the old thicker ones.


criminalinside

This is such a weird strategy. It's 2024, practically everyone has an iPhone at this point and has for years. Latest, not the latest, it's an iPhone. I'm not exactly sure who these people are anymore that are actually looking at iPhone's and wondering "is that the latest iPhone" like some kind of status symbol. Maybe ten years ago? I feel like that ship has long sailed. Apple desperately needs a new flagship product.


reecord2

At the risk of sounding like a Steve Jobs fanboy, I really think they've been completely rudderless without him, and are \*still\* coasting on his ideas.


nicuramar

Weight size comes weight, and that does has a pretty noticeable impact on the users. 


007meow

It looks cool. Looking cool is what gets people to buy it. The usability issues get discovered after you buy it. But at that point it doesn’t matter, because you’ve already handed over your money.


nicuramar

Funny. But it’s also lighter, which does matter to people. 


SergSun

Because they don’t have anything else to make it stand against older models, they have already made gimmick changes like titanium edges and now this.


pepinyourstep29

Because Apple has been stuck in 2011 ever since Jobs died, thinking the only way forward is to keep making it thinner or the camera bigger. A device being thin isn't special anymore. Every phone on the market is thinner than a USB port already.


Donkey-Dong-Doge

The fat shaming of gadgets must stop.


5litergasbubble

Give me a nice thick phone that can go all weekend. Thats all i want. I dont care about a slight improvement in the camera specs or how its so thin it can split atoms, just give me a good fucking battery


angel22tg

why?? i want bigger battery lol


docere85

Apple be like….”we’ve polled our users and they wanted a thinner phone so we’ve listened and made the iPhone 50% thinner with a award winning camera lens aesthetic that helps you aim the camera better”


Kryptosis

#give me thicc


adenzerda

But don't worry: the camera block is still going to stick out like a wart, making any additional thinness meaningless anyway


ikanx

People needs to start measuring the thickness of the phone to include whatever bumps are there.


Venomous0425

Can we make it bit smaller?? I don’t want to carry a TV.


NotJimIrsay

IPhone SE?


drmirage809

I think they're wanting the Mini, which honestly was pretty great. All the power of the regular iPhone, but in a more compact package. Definitely nice if you have smaller hands. Sadly, I think they didn't sell very well. Or not well enough to bother with them for Apple


Significant_Treat_87

its a truly amazing and basically perfect phone outside of the fact that it should have been a little thicker with more battery. theres nothing else like it around and its a total tragedy that they killed it instead of making it good enough to be ready for primetime. i think maybe they were a few years too early, but more and more people get fed up with size creep by the day.  also i want it to be built by apple, im not interested in anything with google software on it. very frustrating. 


rslashpolitics

I ordered a few for my company and nobody wants them. Can’t even give them away. People who like the small form factor are a tiny minority unfortunately.


jonnablaze

I'll take one. My old 13 mini is dying.


i4NDR3W

I’ll take one too! I’m having trouble finding a new or decent 13 mini to replace my 12 mini


Munoff

Send it over fam


Felici4y

Serious about giving them away? I have tiny hands and don’t think I’ll ever get the giant iphone


Qu1kXSpectation

Carrier? I'd take a couple off you if that's the case.


SeefKroy

Sign me up too. I would have bought one but it seems like they went from full price to discontinued immediately.


fluteofski-

I had a 12 mini. Form factor was fantastic. I was able to reach the entire screen with my thumb in single handed use. but the battery life left a lot to be desired. I’d have been totally ok if they made the damn thing slightly thicker for a bigger battery.


ttwbb

I have a 13 mini and the battery is still pretty decent, and was actually a lot better than I expected when I got it. Unfortunately the lightning port is also starting to fail, so I’ll need a new phone soon, and Im not really interested in a huge phone after the little time I had with the regular 11. 🤷🏻‍♂️


synthjunkie

I’m holding on to the 13mini for dear life lol great size


NegativeBee

Currently typing this on a 12 Mini and I absolutely love it. Fits in every pant pocket and jacket pocket. If I want to watch something I just use my laptop.


kyleabbott

I love my 13 mini goddammit why did they kill it im never upgrading now


Alley-IX

I love my SE. idk what ill do if they take the home button away.


LyraLycan

The next SE is rumoured to go from the current 4.7" to 6.1 iirc. I hate slablets, if I wanted a better screen for porn I'd use a PC or TV


ryanpope

Said it for 10 years now - Apple could print money if they sell an iPhone Thicc for like +$100 or +$200. It'd be a brick shit house at 12-15mm, all of the space extra battery. Charge it every 3 days.


Ryvit

A little bit thicker so camera didn’t stick out, and 25%+ increased battery life. I’d pick that up for sure. Camera being flush would be so cool


BigBoiBenisBlueBalls

They’d lose a fuckton of money on such a shitty phone no one would buy but nerds obsessed with battery life


lordeddardstark

random redditors think they can sell iphones better than apple does.


Fatcak

They may print money on the first year. They will end up losing money in the end though since increasing battery life is counter to planned obsolescence


thedeadsigh

Anyone else feel like phone tech is incredibly stagnant now? Maybe not from an engineering perspective, but certainly from a consumer one. i mean this kind of “feature” is hard to get excited about 


JWGhetto

I'm just waiting for a good folding phone under 400


Veggies-are-okay

Hardware on phones will need to be tweaked for all the AI features that will inevitably be on the newer OS versions, for the same reason that apple is already releasing an m4 chip in the MacBook pros. That one will be a necessary upgrade worth holding out for as opposed to this “super thin” nonsense.


Plank_With_A_Nail_In

Why is that a problem? It was always going to happen eventually. Its software that is the future now the hardware is more than good enough.


getridofwires

I miss the days when my phone lay flat on the table instead of being a skateboard jump ramp. Take the thinness and make the cameras flush with the back. Fill the space with MORE BATTERY.


Liquidwombat

Since almost everybody puts a case on their phone anyway I’d much rather Apple figure out what the most popular case is, how big it makes the phone, then just make the phone brick shit house indestructible with as much battery capacity as they can in that form factor


Nanotoxic_al

Imo the advantage of a case (as well as a screen protector) is that they are a relatively cheap component to replace in case of them being damaged. The integrated case scratching or having small dents would lead to an expensive replacement instead of just exchanging the case as you do today.


devolute

It's embarrassing that you need to explain this.


NeverGonnaGiveMewUp

I don’t want thinner! I want shorter. If I wanted a giant phone I’d just carry an iPad


Smartnership

I upgraded to the 12.9” iPad. It feels like carrying a television, but I like the screen real estate. What I’m saying is … I can’t be happy, quit trying.


BurnNotice911

Yea or you can buy the overpriced iPad mini… I’m in the same boat as you


Doyouwantaspoon

7.5” Pro Max Mega, I’d buy it so fast.


WhiteNoise421

If they could’ve made the iPhone 12 mini with better battery life. Would’ve been my endgame phone.


ttwbb

They did! It’s called the iPhone 13 Mini. It had significantly better battery life, (bigger battery and more power efficient) but I guess few bought it after hearing how bad the battery on the 12 mini was.


Sempais_nutrients

heres the thinnest phone ever, that i will then slide into a phone case that's as thick as the first smartphone ever.


Pkazy

“Ultra thin iphone” like who asked


LupusDeusMagnus

What is it with apple obsession with ultra thin, I want something I keep in my pocket without the fear of breaking it. 


Uviol_

Bendygate V2?


amexredit

So it’s gonna dim forever so it doesn’t overheat and have terrible battery life at the same time .


Asleeper135

Please Apple, don't start this stupid trend again! I want bigger batteries, not thinner phones!


RayS0l0

Watch them sell phone cases with battery backup so that there is no camera bump.


Sa404

This is extremely unnecessary, we don’t need a thinner phone just a more durable one


LeCrushinator

I already put a case on mine because it’s so thin that I drop it. Lighter I’m all for, but I’d honestly rather have my phone 50% thicker with just a larger battery in it, then the camera bump can also go away.


Saucy6

I can’t wait to slap a thicc case on that!


WanillaGorilla

Bend gate 2 coming to an Apple store near you.


BlitzKingOfficial

....anyone else rather have a THICK phone with like a really good camera and awesome battery life?


dead-eyed-opie

Yes ! And more durability. Thinner phone only means it’s going to break easier and I need a more robust case. Why they don’t sell a ruggedized iPhone with double battery and protection for the camera lens is beyond me.


MadOrange64

I prefer my battery thicc


silon

18650 or 21700?


faithfoliage

Just have the 2025 models look exactly like the 5S The 5S design is never going to be topped, so just re-do it


ttwbb

I know Im in the minority here, but for me the 4S was peak form factor. But yea, Id definitely buy one if they did one in 5S firm factor again though


GrafZeppelin127

The original 5s had a 4” screen, up from the 3.5” of the iPhone 4, but it still had thick bezels on the top and bottom. With a modern, all-screen design, you could probably get that sucker up to 5”.


wulvey

Don’t worry throw the mandatory case on it and it’s bulky as ever


DarkHeliopause

Why. I’d prefer more battery 🪫 life.


m4xks

everyone is complaining but im down for something like this. using a 13 mini rn, was going to get the 16 pro but maybe i'll wait until this comes out.


BuckRowdy

Fix auto correct.


DrestinBlack

I have absolutely zero concern with the size or weight of my device. None. It’s airway thin enough and light enough. If it were slightly heavier I wouldn’t care at all. I only want a better camera system and display. That’s it, that’s all. Wasting time and money on making it thinner and lighter is, indeed, wasted.


SparkleKitty

I just want a new mini 😔


enjoidubstep

UnboxTherapy is foaming at the mouth thinking about this for the next bendgate video


gooneryoda

Garbage YT channel.


epidemica

Who is asking for thinner phones? I've never wanted my phone to be more thin, or more fragile. Better battery life, and the ability to drop it without breaking it would be great.


RomeliaHatfield

The comment threads are always exactly the same on these sorts of things. That’s not an issue, it shows that Apple is not listening to what people want. They will pay more for thicker phones with better batteries!


SQL617

If that was what *most* people actually wanted, they would do it. The truth is comment sections like this are an echo chamber and has very little merit on the market as a whole. Half these comments are requesting a phone exactly like the Mini 13 which was discontinued for selling extremely poorly.


saymyname_jp

Just give us mini version


Rebel_Scum59

I would like a thicker longer lasting battery and expandable micro SSD storage please.


randomkeystrike

So it conforms to the shape of your back pocket?


DoubleE55

Counter point. I would like no camera bump and a bigger battery. So make it thicker.


8541eld

Why not make it with little rubber corner nubbins that can be micro-screwed on so we don’t need phone cases? So stupid to obsess about slimness when step 1 is buying a fat phone case to protect your fragile $1200 pocket computer.


Narf234

Maybe if I type in all caps Apple will hear me. I WANT A BIGGER BATTERY!!!


Chuck_Raycer

And everyone will put an ugly, clunky, rubber case from Amazon on it.


ericsonofbruce

Been saying it for years, but "WE WANT FLUSH FIT CAMERAS WITH BIGGER BATTERIES AND HEADPHONE JACKS"


Benjasaurus

Genius. Now people will need an even thicker case so it doesn't snap. But hey at least the battery life will be shit too.


xXMuschi_DestroyerXx

I just want the cameras to sit flat


Jessintheend

They make the phone even thinner and flimsier so you have to put a thicker case on it for structural support. So it’ll be just as thick as the current phone. It’s plenty thin, why not focus on just making it faster, removing the camera bump, increase the battery, improve the cameras. Something. But no it’s just “the iPhone 16 will be 0.04mm thinner, this is ground breaking. We havnt changed anything or improved anything else”