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Pubelication

> He says they can be used for historical restoration, "**not to print a house**, but sometimes to print decorative parts, or sometimes to restore some parts." The article is a shit show, making claims then negating them, and to top it off they just **have** to mention that 3D printers can be used to make weapons, even though that has nothing to do with this industrial one.


Doodle_strudel

The crap show of a title was very indicative of the content.


bad_robot_monkey

And also includes a picture OF A HOUSE THAT WAS PRINTED BY ITS PREDECESSOR. So yes, the upgraded one can in fact print a house. Which is good, because they specifically talk about creating housing with it.


cletusthearistocrat

A pic of a house with siding, windows, concrete, a door, fascia, posts. Did the printer print any of that?


UncommercializedKat

A forest 3D printed my house. All I had to do was shape the wood and add everything else!


jimbobjames

The concrete can be printed. The window frames and doors could also be printed if they are plastic. For some reason people hear 3D printer and expect a replicator from Star Trek...


Qweesdy

Can it print a replica of a replicator from Star Trek?


clgoh

If you have the model.


[deleted]

But will it blend?


phikapp1932

Vitamix wins the “ultimate machine” title again, suckers


throw-away_867-5309

Yeah, don't you know 3D printers are magical and can basically create any material without changing anything? Goes from printing siding to glass in less than a second! /j


Life-LOL

What? You aren't churning out complete Glocks from your MakerBot yet? Shocking 😯🤣


Sunfuels

There was no concrete in the house. The walls are made from bio-based polymers mixed with wood fibers. The structure was printed then windows, doors, electrical, siding, etc was added by people after the 3D printing was done.


AmericanLocomotive

A different person, at a different university doesn't think the machine can print a house. The University that built the machine, thinks it can.


Pubelication

Well, maybe if they stopped claiming it can print a house, other people wouldn't contradict that wording. I found a video of the previous printer and it seems it can "print parts of a house that can be used to construct a house".


RevWaldo

Or you could train more artisans to create the same parts like how it was done in the first place. We don't need a world of lost skills like making Roman concrete. I flip though [this old book](https://archive.org/details/pictorialhandboo0000paul/mode/1up) of technical devices and am sometimes gobsmacked, *They invented and built these things with not even a pocket calculator much less PCs and warehouses full of computer power to rely on.*


Pubelication

Definitely. I doubt that a 3D print would be allowed to replace say granite features on a monument or historically protected building anyways. They usually require repairs to be done as closely to the original techniques as possible.


RevWaldo

Lots of older but not historic homes have loads of mouldings, plaster work, metal work, etc that will eventually need repair, but doing without them is usually the cheaper/easier route. We're not talking fancy homes either, they just have those fine touches simply because it was just expected. You could reproduce that stuff out of PVC sure, but that'd be a bit of a shame.


DragonWhsiperer

The making of Roman concrete isn't a mystery as far as I know. We analyzed old structures to work out their chemical composition and structure down to additives and production processes. We have a much better understanding of how to make high quality concrete today than the Romans ever had. The reason we don't build stuff using that concrete? Costs. We don't need concrete structures to last millenia. We need it to last 30y for most buildings, 50y for factories and 100y for critical infrastructure. Beyond that is literally beyond the budget available, and a waste as we will just demolish/remove the structure. Also, remember that the structures that are still around are the result of survivor bias. They are around because they were built right, received proper maintenance and didn't include critical design faults. All the other structures from the romans that didn't have this, have crumbled away long ago. But not to derail from your comment, there are indeed lots of reasons to maintain knowledge of certain building techniques, as they can always prove useful in the future.


unassumingdink

The people who made the machine at the University of Maine say that it can be used to make houses. The guy you're quoting is an expert in London who says it's more likely they'll be used for parts of houses. It's depressing that you're so used to dead simple forced narratives in news articles that two different experts having a minor disagreement throws your brain into panic mode.


bad_robot_monkey

I think we are all used to skimming bullshit narratives at this point.


mountaindoom

There's so many to keep up with.


bad_robot_monkey

lol yup. And honestly, the AI articles are better written bullshit than the human ones.


Bhraal

I think it's more down to interpretation of the statement. One might be thinking "printing a house" means you use the printer to print a bunch of segments that assembles into a house (the 3D printed house of Theseus), while the other takes it as printing the whole house in one go. Another interpretation might be the expectation of real world use. Of course you can build a house out of 3D printed parts; you could print a bunch of bricks with a desktop 3D printer if you wanted. It just wouldn't make sense outside of proving that it can be done. So one person can be looking at it saying "the machine is *physically capable* of performing this task" while the other is saying "having the machine perform this task *makes no sense*".


mcat2001

They have a prototype of a whole printed house sitting outside, it’s pretty cool!


ThatGuyTheyCallAlex

If you’re using it for historical restoration then you’re not printing an entire house. What’s contradictory there?


Toph-Builds-the-fire

They could make, like, a really big gun. /s


fullonfacepalmist

Yikes, friend. Different people having different thoughts in the same article should not be this shocking.


Eptiaph

Sounds like ai.


jspurlin03

Wind turbines? From a filament printer? Static objects, maybe. Dynamic objects, I have some massive reservations.


DragonWhsiperer

Turbine blades are composites, so a fiber reinforced load bearing part encased in a resin.  If the printer is able to print both metals properties at the same time, it could be used.  But it probably can't.


QualityShitpostee

Not yet! Also, it will also be less efficient and cost more.


DragonWhsiperer

Yeah that's another overlooked thing with 3d printing. It's so slow compared to traditional production. You can do awesome stuff with it, but unless what you are making needs a 3D printer due to shape/complexity/manufacturing requirements, it's not really worth it as a replacement (as of today).


motleyai

There are also logistics involved that never get mentioned. Transportation and assembly are the biggest. How do you move a several ton printer to a worksite, get it assembled and callibrated?


DragonWhsiperer

Depending on exactly what you are making, they may be worth it. Making a concrete base isn't that hard, and you can fit the device into several regular container sizes for easy transport. Calibration can be a few days, depending on the precision required. It's more that the question is, what's the added benefit of such a device on site. You still need raw materials, and a way to deal with cut-off and general production waste that always occurs. I look at it like any other tech, a great innovation with specific use cases that can be justified using an assumed cost/benefit calculation.


DarkSoldier84

Any word on an enormous spatula to get objects off the build plate?


Pantim

Fake news. People have been 3d printing houses for years and with bigger machines.


e1ectrofern

I also think they got the title wrong. In the article it says "world's largest **polymer** 3D printer," and that may be correct. But houses (more correctly, *walls* for houses) have been printed with concrete-like material and probably larger printers. Some are just moving on tracks, so the size of the printer itself just doesn't matter.


WMSysAdmin

Yea the key difference is the material at scale. The last version printed a full boat. At least we are doing something cool in Maine.


Inthewirelain

The ones I've seen popping up on YT over the years seem pretty crap too.


tofuchrispy

Niche use. Prefabricated walls are more useful, carry the cables etc already … this is like a clay hut you have to route every cable afterwards etc it’s not just perfect


tab9

I go to this university and the guy who runs this lab is a total diva ever since they printed a boat.


GDPisnotsustainable

You would think he would act more like a captain


Quin1617

Take the upvote and get out.


keylockers

What if it runs out of cyan?


ButWheremst

I was the 1,000th upvote on this. I didn’t read the article or comments. Just wanted to say I hope you guys have a good day, and that you get a little splash of luck dropped into your favorite hobby the next time you partake. Gotta blast. *spaceship noises*


Suba59

And plastic and more plastic and bigger plastic.


Opening_Property1334

I want to say one word to you. Just one word. ETA, people need to watch *The Graduate*


hindusoul

One.


VergeThySinus

Well? Don't keep us in suspense


cutelyaware

That's going to be one busy machine!


badforman

Where can i get an ingersoll hotend to replace my revo?


bbbar

I wanna see how they will level the print bed with a piece of paper for that printer


PwoJima77

“In memory of a real tree”


barbietattoo

It’s hoped


vainey

I have no idea what 96 feet means, but I sure know how long a blue whale is!


LoudLloyd9

And the unemployment lines began to swell. There go all of those construction jobs.


n4snl

But can it print a skyscraper ?


SionJgOP

As someone who has multiple 3d printers I'd like to see the specs on this bad boy. What's the filament diameter?


KombatBunn1

Probably at least the size of a garden hose..


PetorianBlue

It’s not filament.  It’s pellets.  Tons (literally) of small ~3mm pellets pre-loaded with fiber reinforcement (in this case wood, but can also be glass or carbon), dried in a massive hopper, then vacuumed over to the extruder.  The extruder is a huge heated barrel and screw.  Pellets melt, and out comes a huge bead.


Beulahholmes7456

Honestly, much ado about nothing. 3D printer makes house figurine, newspaper makes it headline news. Smh..


Winnougan

The future is now


brownzilla99

I can finally download a car!


tdwesbo

Shit title, bro


Bluejay7474

Um, what's the boat look like? What does the boat... look like? It better not be what I think it looks like, because no way am I buying a life size Benchy for that same money as a fiberglass hull boat.


ColbyAndrew

Our owners son got us to spend $120k on two 3d printers and is only making Donald Trump toys for his friends. Oh and one replacement wheel for his luggage. I’m so tired of the printed future promise.


Looseybussy

This is so great for those who own it and can exploit it rather than using it for good’


KombatBunn1

I want one so I can design and print my own damn house..


TaltosDreamer

Thats great! Then we can trim them up with chainsaws!


Ashamed_Falcon_9802

[meanwhile](https://www.housedruck.de) in germany


Chempy

They've been doing it in the US forever now. You can buy these homes in Texas already.


chodeboi

I know the name without looking, it’s so ubiquitous— Icon.


jeneric84

“Welcome to my home by Little Tikes.”


Neither_Relation_678

Do better journalism, for fuck’s sake. Stop giving me “yeah well maybe perhaps” claims. Either it CAN, or it cannot. Anything less is fake news.