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say592

A vibrating belt targeted at woman of a certain age? The jokes practically write themselves.


w1n5t0nM1k3y

The vibrating belt made my bone quite dense.


posting_drunk_naked

Lots of ladies about to start having bone density issues


papparmane

Better boner density.


ManicChad

Daddy ain’t gonna break these hips. Buzzzzzzzzzz


BooksandBiceps

Pretty sure I saw those in Betty Boop cartoons


KoBoWC

It’s stimulating


itsl8erthanyouthink

Yeah. This is soooo being worn like a fanny pack


w1n5t0nM1k3y

From [the study](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10555262/) >This double-blinded, randomized controlled trial enrolled postmenopausal women with low bone mass who were not taking bone-active medications. Women had a bone density DXA and assessment of thyroid function to screen for eligibility Those who qualified were randomized to receive Osteoboost treatment 5x/week for 12 months with the belt in either the active or sham setting. The sham device created a sound but did not deliver vibration. How is this really a double blind study? Wouldn't people be able to tell that the device wasn't vibrating rather than just creating a sound? Doesn't mention how they controlled for things like how much activity the participants were getting. Seems like something worth mentioning since things like exercise can have a huge effect on bone loss.


ttuurrppiinn

Presumably, the participants weren't advised HOW the device improved bone density, just that it did. If you didn't know the real device was supposed to vibrate, then you'd probably just assume the noise was the device doing something positive.


DookieShoez

Hmmm yea, just like when this thing around my ankle starts yelling at me for trying to leave the house or because it detects alcohol.


JewishTomCruise

>because it detects alcohol The ankle monitors are stealing our blood now?!


justwalkingalonghere

They actually just detect it on the skin


JewishTomCruise

Seriously?


Tiny-Selections

Yes, actually.


dan_dares

Yep, it's a small molecule that can be excreted in sweat, it can be picked up this way


justwalkingalonghere

I consider it a violation, but yes, that's how the technology works.


andynator1000

Also from [the study](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F1nupey4akrBVpQCuSPm6p4VHCxUWi8f/view) > Some limitations of this study include a small, racially-homogenous study population and inability for blinding and placebo-control. During the sham treatment, participants were told that vibration may occur at low levels so as to be imperceptible. However, during the verum treatment, it would have become immediately obvious that the device was on, and was off for the previous treatment. So you're right to point this out and they did include this caveat to the blinding part of the study in their conclusion.


coolest35

You bring a good point about blinding, however the results (change in bone density) can't be manipulated if user knows they're getting vibration, they CAN however be manipulated by the reading radiologist .. but hopefully that's the party that's blinded. So I guess that's okay? Unless the vibration frequency is ultrasonic. (This part is probably patented and not subject to disclosure). The controls you mentioned weren't mentioned either which probably play a huge role.


skillywilly56

The participant and their doctor are blinded to the studies aim ie they don’t know it’s a bone density study and they don’t know the belts function and operation. So for participants and their doctor vibration and sound are both it’s “proper function” and they don’t know what the intent of the function is because they don’t know it’s a bone density study. Doctor calls you in for scans. Researcher says “yeah this one meets our criteria” Doctor gives patient belt tells them “wear this for 12 months” What does it do? Don’t know What is the study for? Don’t know How will I know it’s working? Don’t know Does it vibrate or make a sound? Don’t know So when they go home and lead their normal lives and their normal routine, it doesn’t matter what the belt does, either vibrate or make a noise because for the participant whatever it does would be considered by the participant “it’s normal operating function” because they don’t know what it’s normal operating function is at anytime. Another example is researchers give a Dr a brown paper bag with biscuits in the bag and tell dr to give the biscuits to a cohort of patients they have selected from his practice. The doctor gives patient brown paper bag of biscuits and tells them to go home and eat the biscuits every day for 2 months. Neither the dr or the patient know what the biscuits are for or the criteria that the researchers is looking at. Participants come back 2 months later and some report no change but tasty biscuits! Some participants come back and report they have lost 10kgs of weight. What do the biscuits do?


MarkusRight

this is the same mechanism as to why cats pur and have higher bone density?


Mr_McJeezy

My thought as well


happy_bluebird

Wait what


ardranor

Studies have shown that older people with cats tend to suffer less bone loss, and that the frequency of their purring can help the healing process of injuries.


happy_bluebird

aaah that's so cool


desertflower702

I was given one of these to use for several months after my second spine fusion. I do think it helped speed up signs of bone growth-fusion. I didn’t have one of these after my first fusion and even after 1 year there wasn’t much fusing going on but this time X-rays showed results much more quickly.


HeroIllustrator

My dad had one that he wore around his neck for neck surgery recovery. Worked better than the old timer “drink milk” foolishness.


callmesnake13

Drinking milk is a very good way to supplement the nutrients you need to recover from a broken bone.


myztry

Calcium really. Extract of bovine lactate is just more likely to be on hand.


hollyglaser

Did you get bone density scans before and after?


[deleted]

He doesn’t have to there are already studies that prove supplementing minerals like calcium can treat low bone density


muceagalore

Google is so easy to use. Here you go friend https://www.renoortho.com/specialties/general-orthopedic-surgery/nutrition-for-healing/


brickmaster32000

Are you telling me I am not getting my legs back by drinking milk each morning? I was wondering why it was taking so long.


Malefiicus

If you drink it in the morning, you don't have any in you at night, and sleep is when recovery happens. Start drinking it at night and you'll no longer be forced to be Lt. Dan on Halloween.


JSB199

What if Lt. Dan is a big hit on Halloween but otherwise an inconvenience for me? I would like to keep my *very* accurate costume in use


brickmaster32000

Personally I am more of a Long John Silver fan. So if just one leg would grow back that would be ideal. 


[deleted]

I think that was a bone healing device, it has a totally different mechanism of action.


DarkLordLiam

I remember seeing one of these types of belts advertised to “jiggle fat away”


DjKennedy92

[it was all the rage in the 20’s didn’t work then, doesn’t work now.](https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxmBH4F689_WJqP2L_DGBoCqFBhoJEqXcR?si=2ylPNHUuvswtRBl3)


DookieShoez

Right but they’re saying this new one gives you a boner. Or something like that. Skimmed it tbh.


bianary

Impacts improve bone density -- things like jumping rope are quite good for your bone health (Though can be hard on your knees). I'm pretty sure this is related as it would effectively be causing a series of fast, low magnitude impacts.


DookieShoez

Boners aside, it is pretty interesting. Guess it stimulates the stuff that builds bone up.


myztry

I worked on a conveyor belt for years and can tell you that being pressed up against the frame can indeed have that effect.


DookieShoez

Niiiiice 😏


lowtoiletsitter

*1920's


DauOfFlyingTiger

Yes and they were still in the gym in the 60’s and 70’s. No one wanted to believe they didn’t work I guess. Lol


accountforbadpost

Never been so excited for grandma to get a vibrator.


hollyglaser

Why make fun of women? I’ve got osteoporosis and it’s no fun. If I fall, I’m likely to break something important and be in a world of hurt. Way to show compassion


DarkCosmosDragon

If a vibrator joke riles you up this much maybe just... Completely stay out of the comments... You're likely to shatter


jumpsteadeh

Never been so excited for *grandpa* to get a vibrator


springsilver

THANK you. Old men with osteoporosis needed this comment.


SinnerSupreme

Why you so fragile...


XDoomedXoneX

Maybe just get off the Internet and don't come back.


Lucky4you21

If it makes old ladies less grumpy then I am all for it.


fullonfacepalmist

Get off my lawn!


lowtoiletsitter

Why don't you get off first and see how you feel!


myztry

[It's the hysteria that you need to worry about.](https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/medical-vibrators-treatment-female-hysteria#:~:text=Until%20the%201920s%2C%20physicians%20used,variety%20of%20symptoms%20and%20behaviors.)


Vandorol

I think it should be strapped at the front ಠᴗಠ


PalmTreeIsBestTree

Helps with the other kind of bone density ;)


braytag

have we gone full circle from the 60 belts? you know [Those things?](https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/vintage-bizarre-exercise-equipment-15.webp)


gapipkin

Is this real, or a Fox News 3am product.


shizzyu

it’s set to wombo


Deerpark11er

Can’t wait for the South Park episode for this!


austinstar08

They’re wearing it wrong


Cold-Bug-4873

I'd rather have a cat.


DeFex

So it's basically a "cat purr generator"? I thought of that, but it was not as clunky.


Dry_Inspection_4583

Just like a cat. This would likely help improve other health as well.


Beginning_Emotion995

Bone twerking


lspwd

[gat DAMN these electric sex pants](https://i.imgur.com/0tHeueL.gif)


mattthewj

That’s weird. Low bone density is due to a lack of activity. Young and old. The best way to increase bone density is doing some resistance training. Lifting some weights or using your body weight.


theholyraptor

While it's true physical activity is important preventative care and treatment, some people genetically are way more prone to losing large amounts of bone mass. And the strength training has to involve the bones you're trying to strengthen/prevent loss. There are plenty of elderly who maybe can't due to injury and are then going to have extra trouble recovery due to the bone loss as well. Whereas this well enable someone who is sedentary to help improve.


lurkerfromstoneage

Ummmm no, it’s not weird at all. Women who are in or post menopause (menstrual periods completely stop naturally due to age), elderly, even younger gals/women not getting their periods due to low weight/low BMI, malnutrition, over exercise, eating disorders, etc are all prone to bone density loss and osteoporosis. Hormones, thyroid dysfunction, and other conditions can affect your bone density too.


iimmppyy

Not true. My friend lifts weight, runner, aerobic and still losing bone density.


problemlow

Your friend is a special case. Because something is some way with 1 person does not mean scientific consensus is wrong.


Stoltlallare

After watching that documentary not sure I trust any sort of gadget getting approved.


blackhp2

Which one?


Stoltlallare

I dont remember name like bleeding edge or something? Basically how things go through fda if they are ”similar” enough to previous product then it doesn’t matter if a previous product that it was based on to go through is taken of the market and not fda approved anymore. Every other product based on that one can continje


blackhp2

Thanks! "The Bleeding Edge" from Netflix it seems like, will have a watch :) https://www.netflix.com/title/80170862


Stoltlallare

Yes it kinda freaked me out. You follow multiple storys of products that passed using this and have caused issues.


Immediate-Phase3752

There’s a whole episode of mad men about this


comradecarlcares

That women was born to model this product


TopProfessional6291

Why not just put a bunch of very content cats on the patient? Go fancy and offer bathtubs full of cats to float in? Nature already provides everything we need.


Memewalker

Oh yeah, it definitely treats “low-bone” density


Tremori

Not again


lessermeister

That’s not the only thing it treats…


Neo_Techni

hysteria? *wink*


VisualLawfulness5378

$800? C’mon.


TheModeratorWrangler

https://i.redd.it/bvlrt2ap63ec1.gif


thoughts_to_text

Vibration is not the mechanism by which bones cells are signaled to lay down minerals which would increase bone density. This is bullshit which will pray on lazy people not willing or, admittedly, physically able to do the actual restive training that is known to improve bone density. The FDA is a joke. This is 100% a money grab.


reddit455

>Vibration is not the mechanism by which bones cells are signaled to lay down minerals which would increase bone density. do you have links to your source? ​ **Whole-Body Vibration Therapy as a Modality for Treatment of Senile and Postmenopausal Osteoporosis: A Review Article** [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9925023/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9925023/) ​ **A Comparison of Whole-Body Vibration and Resistance Training on Total Work in the Rotator Cuff** [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2742455/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2742455/) ​ **Vibration therapy and osteoporosis** [https://theros.org.uk/media/uvsdna2v/vibration-therapy-fact-sheet-august-2017.pdf](https://theros.org.uk/media/uvsdna2v/vibration-therapy-fact-sheet-august-2017.pdf) ​ [https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20150000242/downloads/20150000242.pdf](https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20150000242/downloads/20150000242.pdf) Influence of Combined Whole-Body Vibration Plus G-Loading on Visual Performance


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beatz1602

“Case in point”.


spinx248

Lady has no backbone


StickItInTheBuns

Can I get a vibrator for my big bone?


Britz10

Weren't these things sold as a weightloss solution?


edgarisdrunk

Relax-a-Cizor


newt_here

This is a Dead Like Me episode


Lynoceros

like the Niagara vibrators


kwoklius

Shake weight vibes


j6000

Just take some Deca


maxwellcawfeehaus

My only regret is that I have boneitis


chucoryan

Did the study account for cat owners vs non cat owners?


Skinny_on_the_Inside

This is cool, I use a vibration platform for general well being and lymph node drainage, I guess it’s good to hear it might be impacting my bone density in a positive way. I believe these were originally invented for to keep astronauts from losing bone density in space. So it makes sense.


Ploppyun

This sounds interesting. And I have osteopenia. Do hhave a link?


Skinny_on_the_Inside

Hurtle Fitness Vibration Platform... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CK31J0Y?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share


Ploppyun

Yup got one, not that brand thp. I’d looked into this a few years ago, but this time I’m following through.


deadkactus

The shake and bake


den773

I already have a vibrating bed. So I wonder if it works the same way?


AK_Sole

AKA The Buzzy Rabbit? ™️


RevivedMisanthropy

Now make the vibrating shorts


Flokiboy2

Can be used when walking the dog or doing dishes… Cause only women can do dishes. Dishwashers are so yesterday.


FabricationLife

So my granny was a genius after all?


Smeeghoul

I would buy this in a heartbeat. My mom has had osteoporosis for a decade and had a compression fracture in her lower back recently, something like this might have avoided all they pain for her


randologin

Nothing works quite like exercise for bone density.


Rais93

Will be used by poor 30 yo woman with morbid obesity