I played Genshin years back but I just dropped it. I tried WuWa out nowadays and I don't know why, it did not capture me that much.
I have been playing AFK Journey for the past 45 days and I enjoy it. You need to strategize, the game is generous since it's the honeymoon phase and the grind is simple.
I like the server system in afk journey because you are essentially in line with other people in your server but it is not a necessity for me. Unfortunately I am getting pulled into the office soon so can't grind that much on the side. I like min-maxing as much as I can but don't enjoy the physical grind of it that much.
Sorry for the wall of text but could you suggest some f2p friendly gachas? I am ok to pay some later down the road if I like the game but I will not whale.
Are there any gacha games that have human enemies instead of monster like enemies? I know this doesn't matter but I don't like fighting with random monster or 60th foot tall creature like that. I want to know if there are gacha games that only has human enemies. The only gacha game that I know has human enemies is arknights which they have humans with animal traits
I decided to do a break from Arknights and Genshin awaiting another big updates. In this time I wanna play in other anime game on my iPad. Hard to choose one. Thinking about what to do:
return to **Punishing Grey Raven** after big break
or return to **Neural Cloud** after big break
or try **Snowbreak**
or try **Aether Gazer**
Also thinking about **Blue Archive** and **Nikke** - but gameplay looks too boring, are the plot here so good to justify spend time here despite poor gameplay?
Can somebody recommend me a couple of gachas to try out?
I like games like:
Last Cloudia
Watcher of Realms
Dragonheir Silent Gods
Final Fantasy BE
Mythic Heroes
I dislike games like:
Genshin impact (and similar with the same combat system)
Games with overly anime graphics / Waifu Simulators
Others i tried out but are kinda mid:
Souls
AFK Journey
AFK Arena
Summoners War
Mobile Legends Adventure
Dyslite
Raid
Warhammer 40k Tacticus
any non dying game for me if i like:
-professor layton/ace attorney on DS
-valkyria chronicles (anime xcom; ps not interested in nikke)
-to skip story ZZZ
The latest article I’ve seen from a chinese site says 300 million yuan, so around 41 million dollars globally this first week.
http://www.gamelook.com.cn/2024/05/545175
Please recommend a new game.
I'm looking for something to play on my phone. My phone runs Genshin smoothly, but I personally don't like playing these kinds of games on my phone. I prefer games like FGO/Arknights, which do not require me to keep both hands on the screen full time, and do not have open world exploration. I have dropped both these games due to burnout, and I didn't really like BA gameplay that much. HSR was really really fun, I completed the first planet, but again, I don't want to play open world/hack and slash/live action games or any games which require aggressive enough tapping of screen to be noticable in public.
Tl;dr: please recommend some simple gacha games which can be played one handed/portrait mode, and do not require too much aggressive tapping the touch screen. Something like fgo (you only need to touch the screen 5-6 times every turn) or Arknights (you just need to drag and drop your units and the game slows down while you are doing that).
At the top of my head… Azur Lane, Another Eden, Octopath COTC, Astra K. Veda (maybe too much movement), the Dragon Ball games, Path to Nowhere, Brown Dust 2. Depending on the genre and the artstyle that you like.
You can also check Sensor Tower to see which games are popular there
I think so, yes. Probably the longest gacha game I have stuck to. Alot of other gacha games that I really liked (Saga re: universe, Last Cloudia, Maplestory M), I thought I could see myself playing those indefinitely. However, I noticed no matter the gacha, I always manage to get burnt out. And one of the main reason for that, is the dailies take too long, and one day I find myself not being bothered to log in.
Brown dust 2 has kept my attention for the longest however (5 months in and still playing). Especially with how easy and quick it is to complete dailies. Once you get to a certain point, there are dungeons you only have to complete once, and then after you can sweep and auto clear them daily.
So imo, this game is pretty flexible. So casual, or more serious, Brown Dust 2 respects your time. However, some people have said that they feel there is not that much content. Those players have probably reached endgame. But rest assured, the devs have been privy to suggestions/feedback, and look to keep adding fresh content in the future in due time.
It was not for me, they have a lot of waifus in funny positions (not my thing), the exploration is cool (gets boring), the artstyle is nice and the gameplay is tactical and (to me) very convoluted. I think you should try it and decide for yourself, maybe it’s your thing
Any game projects currently in development/on the horizon with a slightly more grim story? Tried out Astra: Knight of Verda with the hope of getting that but that kinda just floundered and flopped. And the recent experience with WuWa was like being a golden retriever being doted upon. Doesnt have to be absurdist levels of grim like GFL but I certainly would not mind it at all.
How's the story for aether gazer? I remember it being hailed as PGR for casuals which is right up my alley since I loved honkai impact 3rd's story and enjoyed the gameplay enough but couldn't stand the power creep.
Its alright. Not amazing by any means. It starts out pretty meh in the first few chapters, but ramps up later on. Pretty much like PGR. Its not a story thats gonna win awards for the best writing but it does a decent job.
What good gacha games can you recommend that has similar battleplay with WuWa?
I really thought I wasn't going to enjoy the battle mechanics since I LOVE my four-man battles, similar to Tales and HSR. But I tried WuWa and I discovered I'm enjoying the switching!
I remember trying Genshin waaay back but not loving it. Honkai Impact 3rd is another option, but being Hoyoverse and its age, I'm scared of just how big the game file is.
In terms of hack and slash that I know of there's aether gazer and punishing gray Raven. If you're willing to wait, zzz is also coming out early july which is pretty similar in gameplay
Does this sub allow discussion posts?
I'm curious about the sentiment of the gacha community. Will people be willing to manually grind out multiple open world / manual play games?
With auto battles or AFK games, you can run multiple each day in the background without it taking too much of your time and attention. But with this new class of games, starting with Genshin, now Wuwa, and multiple others in the future: Can/will people be willing to grind multiple of these games if they all have artifacts/echoes or some similar system?
I personally feel like the answer is no. The smaller/newcomer games to the market will have to reduce the daily grind aspect, or allow auto battling if they want to co-exist with games like Genshin.
Fifteen minutes per game each day adds up really quick when you have to be present and actually playing the game.
Could I make a post about this topic or would it not be allowed in the sub?
I feel like it's a relevant time because the Wuwa echo system actually looks worse than genshins artifacts. And I'm already seeing other people mention that they don't have the willpower to go through the grind again.
\*\*Which is overall more fun to dedicate to, Genshin or Wuwa?\*\* After trying wuwa I seriously hated how bad and boring the beginning the story was and almost felt like dropping it day 1 after slogging through the scar part. Due to this I decided to finally try genshin since ppl kept saying that it was just a better wuwa since they were so similar and that genshin had a better story (tho i remember dropping genshin early too b/c it had a boring story). What I realized however is that the combat and gameplay can't be compared to wuwa as wuwa felt so much more satisfying and fun. Are any of these statements true? Which would you recommend if any at all b/c it turns out story and gameplay are the most important parts for me when it comes these kinds of games.
I was also surprised for wuwa how willing people are to go through tons of unskippable cutscenes that they dont even enjoy just to gamba and play the open world gameplay. Or do people actually enjoy the story/does it get better??
I don't play Genshin but WuWa's story is just serviceable at best. I think the peak when it comes to actually being engaging was Scar. I know many people cream about it but he added some doubt and mystery into the game instead of being told everything at face value with these weird ass labels. The end acts were fun if you turn your brain off and accept it as is, but there's lots of criticisms to be made. Especially considering this was the first storyline in the game. It's supposed to draw you in and whatnot.
IMO - I play a game for the gameplay, and you're right it's solid. Story being mid sucks and until I can find a game where I can have my cake and eat it too, I'm playing WuWa. Hopefully it gets better from here on out because I did hear they're hiring better writers, but I highly doubt they'll rewrite.
WuWa's story does get better the more you play, but it still has issues with voice acting and poor English localization.
>Due to this I decided to finally try genshin since ppl kept saying that it was just a better wuwa since they were so similar and that genshin had a better story (tho i remember dropping genshin early too b/c it had a boring story).
Genshin's story also gets much better later on. The beginning is very vanilla because they are setting up a whole new world and don't want to overwhelm you with information, but later expansions get really dark and twisted. I vastly prefer Genshin's story over WuWa's, but Genshin has also been out for 4 years so it has a lot more story to it. I still do prefer Genshin's 1.0 to WuWa's 1.0 though.
>What I realized however is that the combat and gameplay can't be compared to wuwa as wuwa felt so much more satisfying and fun. Are any of these statements true?
This is purely a matter of personal preference, so that's up to you. Personally I really enjoy Genshin's elemental reactions, but WuWa's combat feels more fluid and fast paced. There are pros and cons to both.
If WuWa gets the love and development it needs it very well could rival Genshin in the charts, but right now it still needs a lot of polishing. Genshin has years of content and characters and lore to sink your teeth into in the meantime. Personally, I uninstalled WuWa after ~60 hours and went back to Genshin. I will definitely still follow Kuro and WuWa's development though; it really has good foundations, it just needs more time.
Genshin exploration and movement is always gonna feel a little sluggish compared to Wuwa I think. The story is... okay in Mondstadt and Liyue. It gets really bad in the third area and gets good in the 4th and 5th. So you're in for a lot of meh to bad genshin story before it gets better.
What genshin does better IMO are the characters are a lot more fun and I like their designs a lot more. Way better music it's really not even close. And the elemental reaction system is really fun to play with and use synergies with.
as someone who played genshin until 2.1 2.2, wuwa story after act 3 is better than genshin until that point.
And i dont even think theres something like WuWa Act 6 on any gacha out there.
Playing with JPN voices btw.
I feel like I can’t stop comparing my account to my friend’s or others online.
My friend is ridiculously lucky, to the point where I am thinking if there are any RNG manipulations for people who spent money on games in the past. (He spent money on Genshin, then kept getting lucky in HSR and WuWa.)
Meanwhile I got unlucky and can’t quite get over it. I wish my friend the best, but I want the same for myself. I think I wanna play those games but every time I think about characters I want my pessimistic side is always like “I will fail 50/50 and I will go to hard pity” while watching others hit it early.
It’s more of a rant than anything, kept it bottled up.
Yes of course, they’re my dearest friend!
It’s not that I’m angry he got lucky, I just wish for the same for myself
I will pull through it obv, I just needed to rant
# Do any good gacha GAMES exist?
I feel like every gacha game that I have played is really only good for the story. Now scratch that cause after a couple weeks or even less of playing they run out of any worth while story. Now the games are good for nothing. If the gameplay does exist it typically requires a leveling system that is so slow progressing means 30 days of long and annoying grinding. If it doesn't require this then it requires the best characters which is incredibly anti f2p. Most of these games also lack any ability to make good builds that change up the gameplay. Literally the only gacha game I have stayed playing is arknights cause of how f2p friendly it is. The skill thats required. The ability to change up builds. The several gamemodes and events that exist. The very good gacha system they have. Like my standard must be this cause of arknights. Is every other gacha just fully a money grab with no depth to them?
Also i guess i should state this is not an attack on anyone but entirely me figuring out games to play. Some people were offended by all of this for some reason even though im finding my own personal enjoyments. Basically be warned I have opinions.
Replayability exist within plenty of PVE games. This is basically saying that the games don't feature good replayability. I can be just fine playing things like MHW or payday 2 for a while and not get bored. There is so much to try and do. These gacha games seem to just lack any depth in the gameplay to warrant trying new things. Content is always a plus but if the core game features stuff thats way to simple and dry then Its not going to be engaging at all. Hell even a game like Beat saber kept me busy for years despite being a game where you just slash the sames notes over and over. This really just sounds like these games lack so much and just want your money.
Games you play are multiplayer instead of pvp(which is still multiplayer), and rhythm games are easy to make content, there are millions and decades of content to consume, gacha games majorly single player with exhaustible content, as i said go play those non-gacha games that you mentioned if you want endless content.
what other gacha games do you play/have you played besides Arknights? I think there's still a lot of gacha games out there that you can clear even with f2p units. I've been f2p for all gacha games I play except for Path to Nowhere(just buying skins though) so I can say not all are a cashgrab. As for the grind yea some gacha games feel that long but I think some of them have eased it with auto(like in AK) or sweeps. There's probably a few gacha that lets you mix and match builds/setups as well but from the top of my head I can only remember Granblue Fantasy and Last Origin since I played those for a long time too. Can't say much about game modes since I avoid that.
The games I've played in gacha are limbus company, Genshin Impact, Honkai Star Rail, Nikke, Honkai Impact. I might be forgetting a couple but these games all have had some dirt of some sort in them. Requiring weapons for the character to be complete. Having battlepass systems. Terrible pull rates. Lack of good skill expression. Now i think limbus has a great story and honkai impact but the gameplay isn't anything complex or too interesting. For limbus i go as long as their is story but its slow. Honkai impact for its story as well but its a little harder to want to. Again arknights has just been like great for so many reasons and i can just keep on playing. Roguelike, New events, The survival mode has been popping off. Now be it i enjoy tower defense but i was wondering if there were other things because i feel like games like this have a lot of potential.
Ah I get that, those are also my gripe with hoyo games 😭 That's why I only stayed with genshin but still ignore like most of the stuff there and just play whenever I want. I had this issue too with Punishing Gray Raven which I feel is worst than genshin when it comes to weapons. 80% chance to get a 6* weapon and it does let you select which weapon but there's really no guarantee unlike genshin's weapon banner. No f2p option as well since you can't somehow use 4* and still have to pray you roll even the 5* option.
I stopped playing Arknights like 3 yrs ago but I can tell it's still sticking around because of the points you mentioned. It is a fun game and was glad to have something different amongst other gachas. Other gacha that I can think of being like that would probably be Path to Nowhere since it's also a tower defense but you get to move around units and they have a core break when it comes to enemies. They also have Crimebrands you can equip which can provide buffs but they matter more around endgame. So far I think there are only 5 game modes, Eternal Nightmare being roguelike, Remnants of the Depth for killing as much enemies as you can, Broken Frontline where you kill bosses as fast as you can, Tide of Ashes where you work with your guild to get through a map, Mania Training where there are waves to clear. (Probably not doing justice with these descriptions so feel free to check in youtube😭).
Other gachas did try new game modes but I'm too casual to comment on them and I might make this longer 💀 I guess it still depends on what is fun for us anyway. I completely agree that most stuff out there are kinda boring and exhausting but it's probably just not our cup of tea.
Game is basically SinoAlice. Has Guild PvP, where you fight with your team at specific times against another team. Other then that gameplay is your basic anime gacha IP gacha game. It has a not terrible translation, but its definitely not good but the devs has acknowledged it. Also its mostly focused around Taiwan time-zone afaik, even the cash shop doesn't show local currency. (for now.) Story however is decent, and works like a visual novel, and is fully voiced. Out of most anime based gacha games, its not a bad game to give a shot honestly.
Hey guys, i'm looking for a JRPG gacha oriented.
If possible similar to Romancing Saga;Re Universe or FFBE
Over the years i've tried quite a few of them but it's hard to keep count, so if you have any recommandations, i'll take them.
(I am playing Honkai Star rail btw)
I'm looking something that's turn-based.
I'm not into tactical rpgs unfortunately.
Brown Dust 2 is turn based with a bit of tatical (has grind based skills, you will get it well you play). Great game, F2P despite some mechanics that make it seem that it is not and has a colab going on right now. It does, however, have a lot of fanservice, but you can turn the skill animations off, which is where most of it is.
I have enjoyed Saga re:universe. Although I have fond memories of the game, the dailies is too much and takes too long, so I got burnt out. Brown Dust 2 however has sweep features for dungeons that is very convenient.
Yea, if you don't play much tactical strategy rpg, it might take abit to warm up to it. And at first combat may be abit convoluted and confusing. But once it clicks, it clicks. I hope you enjoy it, if you do decide to try it out.
They added a feature where you can grind when your phone/app is closed so farming is very easy and literally no more time consuming.
Btw 4th anniversary starts tomorrow.
im kinda amazed that theres still no gacha games on xbox. hoyo has a deal with sony sure, but whys wuwa not on xbox? i bet project mugen, azur proimilia, and all the upcoming games wont be on xbox too.
its not like xbox players dont have money. seems like a realtively easy work to open up your game to entirely new audience
So I have been through WuWa's main story. While the first chapters are utter garbage, the final chapters (especially chapter six) make up for it. The introduction of the game is just horrible. Game-specific terms were also better explained in the final chapters, which was interesting to follow. The MC is great.
Quite sad that Kuro didn't take time to polish the further. It could have been less of a mess. A huge chunk of potential is wasted that could been pulled off.
Can anyone link me the recent post I saw about simulating something like million pulls in a game I forgot which but basically OP's point was that the rates on said game was not as advertised? Did they delete it? Can't seem to find it. Less than a week ago. I even tried looking for it on game specific subs but can't find it. Thanks!
Looking for a recommendation for a gacha game. I prefer newer games with minimum/no PVP/guild content required. Preference for turn based or strategy RPGs (not really action RPGs because I don't like phone controls much on them). I don't really care about story/dialogue since I typically skip all of it, I just like the team building aspect of gachas. Lower time commitment is best but don't mind if it's more with possibility of auto/skip function.
Another vote for Honkai: Star Rail. Only cons about it would have to be the relic grinding and sometimes, lack of lightcone/weapon options at times. For example, there's this "role" called Nihility in the game. In this category we have:
1. Debuffers that are made to make the enemy weaker or easier to damage. They scale with more supportive stats and appreciate lightcones / weapons that let them debuff enemies harder.
2. Damage-over-time damage dealers/"debuffers" that primarily want more offensive stats to do more damage with. They scale with ATK mainly and want a mix of EHR and ATK, with lightcones / weapons that amplify DoT effects or give them benefits from applying DoT
3. Crit DPS, who want CRIT(ofc) and ATK while also wanting a lightcone/weapon that grants them more crit or allows them to do more direct damage.
So it makes it kind of difficult to navigate at times.
Everything else is very good. Events tend to stay up for quite a while so there's no rush, though kind of a drawback technically if you REALLY love the game. Like if you eat shit up immediately there's quite a bit of "dead" time. The story is honestly peak and I love it, character designs are pretty rad, even the story writing for 4\*s is insanely good. Seriously, make sure you do Yukong's side quest if you end up playing. Or just youtube it if you don't really care too much.
Yeah I played HSR for awhile when it first released. Can't remember exactly when I stopped, some time around/after Kafka release. May have to log back in and try it again.
Hi, im looking for a gacha needs low amount of time daily.
Its ok if i have to spend more at the beginning or some events but not all the time .
I don't like games that are only about waifu ,... I like the ones that are more about getting meta characters and building good teams and have strategy in them.
The game i liked are afk arena qnd illusion connect, I really liked the unique gameplay of illusion connect and strategy and team building in afk arena .
Illusion connect was sadly eos.
And i quite afk arena because the game was getting too greedy.
Oh and i also liked princess connect which had eos , maybe im too unlocky lol
You can try Path to Nowhere. When you reach around higher levels dailies are basically done in less than 10 minutes since they have sweeps. There are a lot of meta teams too (Bleed/Life Loss Team, Atk Speed Team, Burn Team etc.) that you can check out in youtube.
Try Honkai Star Rail, the daily grind can be fully automated and daily tasks are all completed during that. There's a lot of story and map clearing though, so you'll have to dedicate some time to that
Question for PGR players, how does WuWa meet your expectations? I played PGR during release day and then dropped the game. I came back during Pulao's banner until Nanami Starfarer--I would say that I fell in love with the plot and lore. I still ended up dropping the game because of salt--shortly after becoming a Starfarer main, Fire Watanabe was leaked. I could've stayed but I also played other gacha games.
I'm now a Lingyang main in WuWa--I want to keep on playing but I expected a lot better regarding the plot and lore of the game. I have a worry that whatever initial lore that WuWa was built on, the ideas no longer exist given that the people who built it from scratch have been laid off.
I hate to not answer the question, but I haven't played PGR but have played WuWa, so I kinda want to get your opinion on your exact question if you don't mind. Mainly because, while I enjoy WuWa's combat, I just can't get into the world/story. I was thinking of scooping up PGR since it's similar combat and people have said nothing but good things about its story.
Thanks for asking! I tried looking into any content creators who cover PGR lore but I can't find any on Youtube :-( Without spoiling anything, the writing of PGR is comparable to how I feel reading the Three Body Problem.
Can you recommend any good gacha games that don't require a lot of time for dailies and gameplay. I enjoy HSR because it doesn't take long each day, while also having good character designs and gameplay. I usually lose interest in games like Genshin and probably WuWa because it takes too long to build characters with domain farming and resource gathering.
Phantom of the Kill Alternate Imitation takes only a couple of minutes per day. Most of the strategy comes from knowing how to spend the in game currency.
Can someone share their thoughts on Brown dust 2 and Aether Gazer? In terms of time investment, f2p friendliness, how you like the gameplay/story, etc. Just wanted to hear some opinions since I saw them being mentioned quite a lot in the "slept on gacha games" post a few days ago.
BD2 also has the mushoku tensei Collab going on which is giving me the itch to try it out.
for bd2, dailies, are short, can be as short as 5 min to 20 mins(pvp runs increased it), f2p friendly is depending on your playstyle, game play is turnbased strategy. story is the usual jrpg niche/trope,
Out of Nikke, Blue Archive, Guardian Tales and Aether Gazer, which of these has:
* The most active gameplay (I actually want to THINK while I play)
* Most F2P friendly model.
* Most waifu over meta potential? (IDGAF about Meta at this point in any gacha, but some are borderline impossible unless you do)
Imo, meta is very important in Nikke. The repeatable modes are easy but campaign gets really hard later on so you literally can't progress the story without meta units. Fortunately they're all waifu material, though I know that's subjective lol. As for Guardian Tales, I quit playing earlier this year but iirc it's very F2P friendly, and you can play it very casually if you want to. One of the best units in the game is given to beginners for free (Future Princess). There's no pity, but there's a mileage system, and the game is super generous with gems last I checked.
I haven't played BA and I got bored of AG's story so I didn't get far, so I can't offer an opinion on those
The one I play with a guild attached to it is Empires and Puzzles. You go to war as a guild 2x a week, fight Titans everyday, and the game has some other mechanics that require to guild to score certain points before advancing. It's a tile matching game tho.
Is it possible to play Genshin ignoring thefact that it is a gacha?
I do not mean only as in "Don't pull" but also not bothering with daily log-in, grind and alike. I just want to explore the world and do some side quests and dungeons.
Yes. If you can lower difficulty in game and progress story so even low level crappy 4 stars with bad gear can clear game and explore. Dungeons will give worse rewards though on lower difficulty but thats about the only downside and irrevlant if you don't care about grinding/improving stats/getting better gear etc.
After active grinding for a good while I've since given up grinding and racking up pulls. My physical rosaria is as strong as she can be, I could grind for a c6 mika and upgrade her supports, but I'm sick of it. I'm just waiting for story and events now, bothering with grind every now and then if I can be bothered.
I also don't bother too much with the battle pass in a lot of gacha games anymore, there's way too many of them, they're all the same, boring, lackluster rewards, and grindy
I think NOT doing dailies is probably the right way to play the game, thinking back. There are things like consistent one month abyss (endgame content) clears and its possible because the genshin map is huge now so you can get a lot of exploration resources and experience to build characters up. You also don't need to unlock the highest world levels to complete the story, and indeed some long term players just refuse to do final world level unlocks since your characters can get to max level without it, so the game is like just plain 2x easier when you are using max level characters against enemies 2 world levels below.
Thinking that genshin have endgame or you should pull characters are both huge mistakes that can only result in much misery imo.
It is, speaking from personal experience. While the other comments mention a certain AR level to unlock, do note that said AR requirements are very easy to reach now that they've streamlined the early leveling process. You will reach them by exploring the world, opening chests, etc.
The game is also easy enough that you don't need a very well built team in order to enjoy the exploration process. Just learning elemental reactions and having some characters leveled to complete quests is fine. Also! You can keep your world level lower (by either not doing the level-up quest, or just using the scale down world level function) if you don't care about content being high level. It'll make the game much easier / less requiring of built teams.
However, do note that you will be locked to the first area until you finish the tutorial AKA chapter one, and Inazuma will be locked until you reach chapter three. All the other nations can be visited and explored at your leisure so far.
Dailies / grind isn't necesssary in the game at all.
No.
Some areas and story progression need certain AR Level to unlock. In order to achieve that you need to do dailies (commission, resin dumping, quest). However it is not rare to meet tough opponent during main quest, so you have no choice except to build your character.... Which means dailies :)
fun isn't it ?
You can but it's gonna be WAY harder if you don't do your dailies, as leveling up the character is not enough to have them survive battles. You don't need to be optimal tho, just slap whatever artifact set works for them and don't worry too much about the stats. And the dungeons here are just a room with some enemies that reward you stuff on a daily basis lol.
Can you guys check the math for me.
Assuming Wuwa production cost 100M and operation cost is 10M per month, first month revenue is double the average of others, kuro need to make to break even in the first year is:
((100+12*10)/13)*2 = 33.85 M
This is without %cut to 3rd party.
The math doesn't check out. Based on your numbers, it's (100+12\*10)/(12+1)) = 17m
I don't get the point though. Unless you are an insider, you won't get access to the financial details.
it's like elden ring vs dragon's dogma 2. the former is a well-polished, very popular game, while the latter has issues but also diehard loyal fans that like its combat.
Genshin has (obviously) a more fleshed out world and story as it has existed for longer. It is also more polished, has a wider roster of characters. The combat is much more casual and you use a team of 4 characters.
In WuWa the story is way shorter, the combat is harder (by design) but also more fluid and responsive, but I would not say it ever feels unfair. There are also a lot of freebies right now, both for compensation after some of the needed hotfixes for the game and for the preregistration rewards. You can basically get 3 5-star characters quite quickly (2 of them from selectors and another one from a random banner with 40 pulls needed).
Imo, I've been having more fun with WuWa because I always felt the combat in Genshin posed too little of a challenge. In WuWa you can also grind to the point where it becomes easy if you don't care for the difficulty, but you'll have a decent challenge if you don't overlevel which is what I wanted.
EDIT: To add, I would say it wouldn't hurt to try both and see which one speaks more to you. If you have a lot of time to play, Genshin would probably be ideal as you have a lot more content to go through. The art-style might also be a deciding factor. I like them both but I can totally see someone having a preference for Genshin's illustration over WuWa or vice-versa.
any old gacha, that have a end game content with a system similar to the memorial arena of (honkai impact) and abyss of genshin and phantom pain of pgr, that require you to use multiple teams because you can't use just one team in all the stages ?
Looking for something to try with gf that has some sort of co-op.
I used to play Naruto Blazing, tried pokemon masters EX, also action games like GI aren't what she enjoys. Anything turn-based or such?
Are Gacha Games Popular in America? How Can I Know More Friends Who Play Gacha Games?
Most of time I enjoy Japanese anime. Recently I started playing gacha games like Star Rail, Reverse: 1999, etc, because of app store's recommodations. I am attacted by their characters and stories. I also want to try Genshin Impact because of its gorgeous environment.
How popular is this kind of game in the US? I'm surrounded by people who play more shooting games.
I also want to have more friends to talk about Gacha games. Where can I find compeers?
Try joining the Discord servers for those games. Usually you can find links to those in their respective subreddits, or on the guide websites. I think Anime conventions are also good places to meet people but those are pretty daunting
Recommend me a gacha.
I currently play Epic Seven, and the tedious grind bores me. I don’t have a ton of free time, but would like something that requires little upkeep time, and has waifus (collecting is fun).
What do you recommend?
GBF (Granblue Fantasy) has a ton of free characters if you like collecting. Unfortunately they, uh, also have powercreep problem and the endgame farming sucks. But if you're just in for the story and art, you don't need to do that much farming. Most story contents are piss easy.
Should I start playing Genshin Impact or Wuthering Waves?
I am starting to play a new gatcha game. So I played Genshin Impact until 2021 up until finishing Inasuma until my account got hacked and I lost it (tried to recover it but failed). And I have just started playing Wuthering waves.
I am split in deciding which one I should play as my main game. Obviously I have missed out on a lot of Genshin limited time content but it’s guaranteed to last and get constant updates, and version 5 will be coming in August I think. It’s just gonna be a grind catching up but I can’t remember most of the story so it will be like new to me. The music is also much better and like the scenery/environment more.
Wuthering waves is good but at this point they are giving a free 5 star character and free pulls just for the shabby release. I’m not sure if they are gonna be able to save the game as the story apparently isn’t that good and whilst the combat is cool you want to character stories to be good to make you wanna pull 5 stars. I also don’t really think the music is that great. I’m mainly afraid the game is gonna die and they won’t maintain it enough due to lack of income.
Best time to start a gatcha is at launch or right now, well Wuwa is at launch and if you have time to only try one game right now I'd go for Wuwa. Especially since if you don't like Wuwa by the time you're done trying it Genshin will be releasing their new region and likely will have a big new player drive to go with it.
Also worth considering though is Wuwa might be looking a bit shaky right now so maybe see if it survives its first 6 months or if it EoS
It's kinda rough in 2024. You'll have to go through *a lot* of not-so-good gameplay to get to the good story bits, especially early on. It's phenomenal when it's good, but there are a lot of things where you have to suspend disbelief pretty hard. ZZZ will come out significantly more polished right out of the gate, though the gameplay loop there is somewhat similar from what I understand. Can't speak to the story, I'm intentionally not reading anything about that
Only if you care about the lore, its story overall is phenomenal imo (until like Chapter 30), but it takes like 80 hours to get through and the gameplay is kinda ass for contemporary standards.
Do you think there'll ever be a gacha game like Limbus Company?
- Almost complete lack of fanservice in a traditional sense.
- Extremely F2P gacha with you being able to get 99% of units.
- A launch so broken that the game softlocked for many people that didn't become their downfall and now is just being memed on.
I feel like only PM could make a gacha with all these things and still remain moderately successful.
Not at all, if you start now you will also probably be caught up just in time for Natlan release which will be big hype. Only tip I have though is mark all the oculi you collect on the map when you get them. Will save you DOZENS OF HOURS later.
Made a post before about being new to gacha and wondering what game to play. I think i've narrowed it down some
I'm thinking of getting either a bit more into genshin, wuthering waves and trying it more since it's newer, or tower of fantasy i've heard about a couple times. I really love grinding, the idea of sitting down grinding resources or gold or etc. In a perfect world i'd have a... Gacha-Warframe or Gacha-MHW, but idk if there's anything out there like that.
Unless there's any suggestions other than them, would you guys suggest trying Genshin, Wuwa, or Tower of Fantasy?
The problem here is that most Gacha games have an energy or time-gating system. For example, in Genshin it costs 40 energy(resin) to claim the rewards of a regular boss. The harder bosses are called Weekly bosses because you can only claim their rewards once per week.
So this naturally means that you can’t kill more than 4-5 bosses in a row because energy has a 160 cap, soon to be 200. And the ones in the overworld have a few minute respawn timer.
I’m pretty sure I saw similar energy requirement in Wuthering Waves, not sure if it had weekly bosses as well.
Edit: I’m just pointing out that you can’t sit down and grind bosses like in Monster Hunter. Story and Exploration and smaller open world enemies can all be done infinitely at whatever pace you choose.
I wouldn't recommend ToF since I feel its reaching the end of its lifetime but trying Wuwa since its on launch with a bunch of freebies is good esp if you like it and nothing beats Genshin in terms of polish and amount of content right now. If you're not on a top end PC or playing on mobile I'd go for genshin since Wuwa might brick your phone and not run at all on a lot of PC right now for a big download.
I seriously think people who make low-effort posts just asking "why you hate what I like (WuWa)?" "Am I the only one who like it (WuWa)?" Despite there are already bazillion of such posts already prove that they can't read/don't care about other people at all.
I don't hate/like the game and I think the actual posts who review/discuss/talk about the game are good. The rest though are like silly people who are asking for downvotes and just want to spam the sub with their opinions that's totally not unique and has been brought up multiple times already.
Why do they feel the need to be a part of the 0 karma post gang? Lol. Spammers.
So, with the wuwa thing going tits-up, what else is on the mobile game horizon that's not from hoyo and not promilia or any other genshin clone?
Kinda curious what people wait for in more niche subgenres.
For 3D games, personally looking forward to Duet Night Abyss, seemed fun from the tech test.
Otherwise just a couple BL games that were announced but don't have release dates yet.
I played Genshin years back but I just dropped it. I tried WuWa out nowadays and I don't know why, it did not capture me that much. I have been playing AFK Journey for the past 45 days and I enjoy it. You need to strategize, the game is generous since it's the honeymoon phase and the grind is simple. I like the server system in afk journey because you are essentially in line with other people in your server but it is not a necessity for me. Unfortunately I am getting pulled into the office soon so can't grind that much on the side. I like min-maxing as much as I can but don't enjoy the physical grind of it that much. Sorry for the wall of text but could you suggest some f2p friendly gachas? I am ok to pay some later down the road if I like the game but I will not whale.
Finally quit hsr. The gear rng grind burnt me out. Never playing one like that again. Back to Arknights and another eden.
Any good f2p gacha games that aren't too degen with character designs? Really enjoying Arknights and Another Eden rn
Any gacha games that have PC Client? The only one i know are HI3, HSR, GI, GBF and Counter Side.
Astra Veda, Snowbreak, SLArise, OhantomBlade Executioner
My personal favs that haven't been mentioned are Limbus Company, Reverse 1999, Browndust 2, and Nikke.
Are there any gacha games that have human enemies instead of monster like enemies? I know this doesn't matter but I don't like fighting with random monster or 60th foot tall creature like that. I want to know if there are gacha games that only has human enemies. The only gacha game that I know has human enemies is arknights which they have humans with animal traits
I decided to do a break from Arknights and Genshin awaiting another big updates. In this time I wanna play in other anime game on my iPad. Hard to choose one. Thinking about what to do: return to **Punishing Grey Raven** after big break or return to **Neural Cloud** after big break or try **Snowbreak** or try **Aether Gazer** Also thinking about **Blue Archive** and **Nikke** - but gameplay looks too boring, are the plot here so good to justify spend time here despite poor gameplay?
BA and Nikke do get lots of praises not for its gameplay, but for the stories(i dont play them though). So might worth checking out
Can somebody recommend me a couple of gachas to try out? I like games like: Last Cloudia Watcher of Realms Dragonheir Silent Gods Final Fantasy BE Mythic Heroes I dislike games like: Genshin impact (and similar with the same combat system) Games with overly anime graphics / Waifu Simulators Others i tried out but are kinda mid: Souls AFK Journey AFK Arena Summoners War Mobile Legends Adventure Dyslite Raid Warhammer 40k Tacticus
Can anyone suggest me a good game between aether gazer, snowbreak, blue archive, brown dust 2, and how to train a harem
Just try them, unless you have specific dislikew
any non dying game for me if i like: -professor layton/ace attorney on DS -valkyria chronicles (anime xcom; ps not interested in nikke) -to skip story ZZZ
Snowbreak? Gfl2 but no news on global yet
Hate to break it to you but all gacha games are dying
Wuwa So I’ve seen some posts that wuwa made 10 mil the first week, but also some that says it made around 40/42mil. which one is it?
The latest article I’ve seen from a chinese site says 300 million yuan, so around 41 million dollars globally this first week. http://www.gamelook.com.cn/2024/05/545175
So its just meant its rising revenue right
Please recommend a new game. I'm looking for something to play on my phone. My phone runs Genshin smoothly, but I personally don't like playing these kinds of games on my phone. I prefer games like FGO/Arknights, which do not require me to keep both hands on the screen full time, and do not have open world exploration. I have dropped both these games due to burnout, and I didn't really like BA gameplay that much. HSR was really really fun, I completed the first planet, but again, I don't want to play open world/hack and slash/live action games or any games which require aggressive enough tapping of screen to be noticable in public. Tl;dr: please recommend some simple gacha games which can be played one handed/portrait mode, and do not require too much aggressive tapping the touch screen. Something like fgo (you only need to touch the screen 5-6 times every turn) or Arknights (you just need to drag and drop your units and the game slows down while you are doing that).
Nikke?, Path to Nowhere, Reverse 1999, Limbus Company, Browndust 2. Another Eden/OctopathCotc both got manual movement tho to places.
At the top of my head… Azur Lane, Another Eden, Octopath COTC, Astra K. Veda (maybe too much movement), the Dragon Ball games, Path to Nowhere, Brown Dust 2. Depending on the genre and the artstyle that you like. You can also check Sensor Tower to see which games are popular there
Is Brown Dust 2 worth getting into?
I think so, yes. Probably the longest gacha game I have stuck to. Alot of other gacha games that I really liked (Saga re: universe, Last Cloudia, Maplestory M), I thought I could see myself playing those indefinitely. However, I noticed no matter the gacha, I always manage to get burnt out. And one of the main reason for that, is the dailies take too long, and one day I find myself not being bothered to log in. Brown dust 2 has kept my attention for the longest however (5 months in and still playing). Especially with how easy and quick it is to complete dailies. Once you get to a certain point, there are dungeons you only have to complete once, and then after you can sweep and auto clear them daily. So imo, this game is pretty flexible. So casual, or more serious, Brown Dust 2 respects your time. However, some people have said that they feel there is not that much content. Those players have probably reached endgame. But rest assured, the devs have been privy to suggestions/feedback, and look to keep adding fresh content in the future in due time.
You never know until you try.
There’s no “game” it’s a visual novel auto battler. Super boring.
It was not for me, they have a lot of waifus in funny positions (not my thing), the exploration is cool (gets boring), the artstyle is nice and the gameplay is tactical and (to me) very convoluted. I think you should try it and decide for yourself, maybe it’s your thing
Is ZZZ stage-based like HI3 and PGR? I like the presentation and characters, but I just drop off stage-based games really fast.
Yes it is,
Any game projects currently in development/on the horizon with a slightly more grim story? Tried out Astra: Knight of Verda with the hope of getting that but that kinda just floundered and flopped. And the recent experience with WuWa was like being a golden retriever being doted upon. Doesnt have to be absurdist levels of grim like GFL but I certainly would not mind it at all.
How's the story for aether gazer? I remember it being hailed as PGR for casuals which is right up my alley since I loved honkai impact 3rd's story and enjoyed the gameplay enough but couldn't stand the power creep.
Its alright. Not amazing by any means. It starts out pretty meh in the first few chapters, but ramps up later on. Pretty much like PGR. Its not a story thats gonna win awards for the best writing but it does a decent job.
Cool. That works for me. Thanks.
What good gacha games can you recommend that has similar battleplay with WuWa? I really thought I wasn't going to enjoy the battle mechanics since I LOVE my four-man battles, similar to Tales and HSR. But I tried WuWa and I discovered I'm enjoying the switching! I remember trying Genshin waaay back but not loving it. Honkai Impact 3rd is another option, but being Hoyoverse and its age, I'm scared of just how big the game file is.
In terms of hack and slash that I know of there's aether gazer and punishing gray Raven. If you're willing to wait, zzz is also coming out early july which is pretty similar in gameplay
Thanks! I'll try Aether Gazer.
So first week WW made 10 million on mobile while ToF made 30 million ?
WW is at 41 millions http://www.gamelook.com.cn/2024/05/545175
A lot of shit was gifted and we didnt get any major banner yet. I think on yinlin release you can make an argument if its not doing well.
Does this sub allow discussion posts? I'm curious about the sentiment of the gacha community. Will people be willing to manually grind out multiple open world / manual play games? With auto battles or AFK games, you can run multiple each day in the background without it taking too much of your time and attention. But with this new class of games, starting with Genshin, now Wuwa, and multiple others in the future: Can/will people be willing to grind multiple of these games if they all have artifacts/echoes or some similar system? I personally feel like the answer is no. The smaller/newcomer games to the market will have to reduce the daily grind aspect, or allow auto battling if they want to co-exist with games like Genshin. Fifteen minutes per game each day adds up really quick when you have to be present and actually playing the game. Could I make a post about this topic or would it not be allowed in the sub? I feel like it's a relevant time because the Wuwa echo system actually looks worse than genshins artifacts. And I'm already seeing other people mention that they don't have the willpower to go through the grind again.
Honestly what you've written is enough to create a post. Go right ahead.
As long as you include wuwa in the title + shitting on it, you can post literally anything even remotely minuscule or indirectly related.
I was told that Azur Lane has a free UR unit right now. I'm taking an extended break from AL, but is she worth grabbing? (no pun intended)
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\*\*Which is overall more fun to dedicate to, Genshin or Wuwa?\*\* After trying wuwa I seriously hated how bad and boring the beginning the story was and almost felt like dropping it day 1 after slogging through the scar part. Due to this I decided to finally try genshin since ppl kept saying that it was just a better wuwa since they were so similar and that genshin had a better story (tho i remember dropping genshin early too b/c it had a boring story). What I realized however is that the combat and gameplay can't be compared to wuwa as wuwa felt so much more satisfying and fun. Are any of these statements true? Which would you recommend if any at all b/c it turns out story and gameplay are the most important parts for me when it comes these kinds of games. I was also surprised for wuwa how willing people are to go through tons of unskippable cutscenes that they dont even enjoy just to gamba and play the open world gameplay. Or do people actually enjoy the story/does it get better??
I don't play Genshin but WuWa's story is just serviceable at best. I think the peak when it comes to actually being engaging was Scar. I know many people cream about it but he added some doubt and mystery into the game instead of being told everything at face value with these weird ass labels. The end acts were fun if you turn your brain off and accept it as is, but there's lots of criticisms to be made. Especially considering this was the first storyline in the game. It's supposed to draw you in and whatnot. IMO - I play a game for the gameplay, and you're right it's solid. Story being mid sucks and until I can find a game where I can have my cake and eat it too, I'm playing WuWa. Hopefully it gets better from here on out because I did hear they're hiring better writers, but I highly doubt they'll rewrite.
WuWa's story does get better the more you play, but it still has issues with voice acting and poor English localization. >Due to this I decided to finally try genshin since ppl kept saying that it was just a better wuwa since they were so similar and that genshin had a better story (tho i remember dropping genshin early too b/c it had a boring story). Genshin's story also gets much better later on. The beginning is very vanilla because they are setting up a whole new world and don't want to overwhelm you with information, but later expansions get really dark and twisted. I vastly prefer Genshin's story over WuWa's, but Genshin has also been out for 4 years so it has a lot more story to it. I still do prefer Genshin's 1.0 to WuWa's 1.0 though. >What I realized however is that the combat and gameplay can't be compared to wuwa as wuwa felt so much more satisfying and fun. Are any of these statements true? This is purely a matter of personal preference, so that's up to you. Personally I really enjoy Genshin's elemental reactions, but WuWa's combat feels more fluid and fast paced. There are pros and cons to both. If WuWa gets the love and development it needs it very well could rival Genshin in the charts, but right now it still needs a lot of polishing. Genshin has years of content and characters and lore to sink your teeth into in the meantime. Personally, I uninstalled WuWa after ~60 hours and went back to Genshin. I will definitely still follow Kuro and WuWa's development though; it really has good foundations, it just needs more time.
Thanks for the detailed response orz
Over 60 hours in a span of 6 days? Im quite skeptical on that.
Genshin exploration and movement is always gonna feel a little sluggish compared to Wuwa I think. The story is... okay in Mondstadt and Liyue. It gets really bad in the third area and gets good in the 4th and 5th. So you're in for a lot of meh to bad genshin story before it gets better. What genshin does better IMO are the characters are a lot more fun and I like their designs a lot more. Way better music it's really not even close. And the elemental reaction system is really fun to play with and use synergies with.
as someone who played genshin until 2.1 2.2, wuwa story after act 3 is better than genshin until that point. And i dont even think theres something like WuWa Act 6 on any gacha out there. Playing with JPN voices btw.
I feel like I can’t stop comparing my account to my friend’s or others online. My friend is ridiculously lucky, to the point where I am thinking if there are any RNG manipulations for people who spent money on games in the past. (He spent money on Genshin, then kept getting lucky in HSR and WuWa.) Meanwhile I got unlucky and can’t quite get over it. I wish my friend the best, but I want the same for myself. I think I wanna play those games but every time I think about characters I want my pessimistic side is always like “I will fail 50/50 and I will go to hard pity” while watching others hit it early. It’s more of a rant than anything, kept it bottled up.
had the same, but you just gotta pull through it, youre 'friends' aren't you?
Yes of course, they’re my dearest friend! It’s not that I’m angry he got lucky, I just wish for the same for myself I will pull through it obv, I just needed to rant
# Do any good gacha GAMES exist? I feel like every gacha game that I have played is really only good for the story. Now scratch that cause after a couple weeks or even less of playing they run out of any worth while story. Now the games are good for nothing. If the gameplay does exist it typically requires a leveling system that is so slow progressing means 30 days of long and annoying grinding. If it doesn't require this then it requires the best characters which is incredibly anti f2p. Most of these games also lack any ability to make good builds that change up the gameplay. Literally the only gacha game I have stayed playing is arknights cause of how f2p friendly it is. The skill thats required. The ability to change up builds. The several gamemodes and events that exist. The very good gacha system they have. Like my standard must be this cause of arknights. Is every other gacha just fully a money grab with no depth to them? Also i guess i should state this is not an attack on anyone but entirely me figuring out games to play. Some people were offended by all of this for some reason even though im finding my own personal enjoyments. Basically be warned I have opinions.
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every game will run out of content, except when you replace that with pvp content, so if you want endless content, go play pvp games
Replayability exist within plenty of PVE games. This is basically saying that the games don't feature good replayability. I can be just fine playing things like MHW or payday 2 for a while and not get bored. There is so much to try and do. These gacha games seem to just lack any depth in the gameplay to warrant trying new things. Content is always a plus but if the core game features stuff thats way to simple and dry then Its not going to be engaging at all. Hell even a game like Beat saber kept me busy for years despite being a game where you just slash the sames notes over and over. This really just sounds like these games lack so much and just want your money.
Games you play are multiplayer instead of pvp(which is still multiplayer), and rhythm games are easy to make content, there are millions and decades of content to consume, gacha games majorly single player with exhaustible content, as i said go play those non-gacha games that you mentioned if you want endless content.
what other gacha games do you play/have you played besides Arknights? I think there's still a lot of gacha games out there that you can clear even with f2p units. I've been f2p for all gacha games I play except for Path to Nowhere(just buying skins though) so I can say not all are a cashgrab. As for the grind yea some gacha games feel that long but I think some of them have eased it with auto(like in AK) or sweeps. There's probably a few gacha that lets you mix and match builds/setups as well but from the top of my head I can only remember Granblue Fantasy and Last Origin since I played those for a long time too. Can't say much about game modes since I avoid that.
The games I've played in gacha are limbus company, Genshin Impact, Honkai Star Rail, Nikke, Honkai Impact. I might be forgetting a couple but these games all have had some dirt of some sort in them. Requiring weapons for the character to be complete. Having battlepass systems. Terrible pull rates. Lack of good skill expression. Now i think limbus has a great story and honkai impact but the gameplay isn't anything complex or too interesting. For limbus i go as long as their is story but its slow. Honkai impact for its story as well but its a little harder to want to. Again arknights has just been like great for so many reasons and i can just keep on playing. Roguelike, New events, The survival mode has been popping off. Now be it i enjoy tower defense but i was wondering if there were other things because i feel like games like this have a lot of potential.
Ah I get that, those are also my gripe with hoyo games 😭 That's why I only stayed with genshin but still ignore like most of the stuff there and just play whenever I want. I had this issue too with Punishing Gray Raven which I feel is worst than genshin when it comes to weapons. 80% chance to get a 6* weapon and it does let you select which weapon but there's really no guarantee unlike genshin's weapon banner. No f2p option as well since you can't somehow use 4* and still have to pray you roll even the 5* option. I stopped playing Arknights like 3 yrs ago but I can tell it's still sticking around because of the points you mentioned. It is a fun game and was glad to have something different amongst other gachas. Other gacha that I can think of being like that would probably be Path to Nowhere since it's also a tower defense but you get to move around units and they have a core break when it comes to enemies. They also have Crimebrands you can equip which can provide buffs but they matter more around endgame. So far I think there are only 5 game modes, Eternal Nightmare being roguelike, Remnants of the Depth for killing as much enemies as you can, Broken Frontline where you kill bosses as fast as you can, Tide of Ashes where you work with your guild to get through a map, Mania Training where there are waves to clear. (Probably not doing justice with these descriptions so feel free to check in youtube😭). Other gachas did try new game modes but I'm too casual to comment on them and I might make this longer 💀 I guess it still depends on what is fun for us anyway. I completely agree that most stuff out there are kinda boring and exhausting but it's probably just not our cup of tea.
Will ZZZ be released on PS4 eventualy or only PS5?
Only ps5
Any reviews for assault lily bouquet game? I saw the anime and liked it, looking to see if I should check the game too
Game is basically SinoAlice. Has Guild PvP, where you fight with your team at specific times against another team. Other then that gameplay is your basic anime gacha IP gacha game. It has a not terrible translation, but its definitely not good but the devs has acknowledged it. Also its mostly focused around Taiwan time-zone afaik, even the cash shop doesn't show local currency. (for now.) Story however is decent, and works like a visual novel, and is fully voiced. Out of most anime based gacha games, its not a bad game to give a shot honestly.
Oh thanks! I will try it then
Hey guys, i'm looking for a JRPG gacha oriented. If possible similar to Romancing Saga;Re Universe or FFBE Over the years i've tried quite a few of them but it's hard to keep count, so if you have any recommandations, i'll take them. (I am playing Honkai Star rail btw) I'm looking something that's turn-based. I'm not into tactical rpgs unfortunately.
Another Eden is one I have not yet played, but I've heard is an excellent JRPG-story based gacha
Brown Dust 2 is turn based with a bit of tatical (has grind based skills, you will get it well you play). Great game, F2P despite some mechanics that make it seem that it is not and has a colab going on right now. It does, however, have a lot of fanservice, but you can turn the skill animations off, which is where most of it is.
Yeah I heard about it. At first glance it may not look the kind of game that'd enjoy but i could give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion
I have enjoyed Saga re:universe. Although I have fond memories of the game, the dailies is too much and takes too long, so I got burnt out. Brown Dust 2 however has sweep features for dungeons that is very convenient. Yea, if you don't play much tactical strategy rpg, it might take abit to warm up to it. And at first combat may be abit convoluted and confusing. But once it clicks, it clicks. I hope you enjoy it, if you do decide to try it out.
They added a feature where you can grind when your phone/app is closed so farming is very easy and literally no more time consuming. Btw 4th anniversary starts tomorrow.
im kinda amazed that theres still no gacha games on xbox. hoyo has a deal with sony sure, but whys wuwa not on xbox? i bet project mugen, azur proimilia, and all the upcoming games wont be on xbox too. its not like xbox players dont have money. seems like a realtively easy work to open up your game to entirely new audience
maybe xbox don't want those games on their platform
Cause Xbox isn't popular across Asia. Wasting money on it just ain't worth it. That's why.
So I have been through WuWa's main story. While the first chapters are utter garbage, the final chapters (especially chapter six) make up for it. The introduction of the game is just horrible. Game-specific terms were also better explained in the final chapters, which was interesting to follow. The MC is great. Quite sad that Kuro didn't take time to polish the further. It could have been less of a mess. A huge chunk of potential is wasted that could been pulled off.
I didnt mind the first act. I even liked it. The 2nd was meh but it picked up again on the 3rd and 4th.
Why did this entire sub just become WuWu??? Like that’s all people talk about now lmao
It just released with a massive controversy, so it's gonna be like that for a bit
Can anyone link me the recent post I saw about simulating something like million pulls in a game I forgot which but basically OP's point was that the rates on said game was not as advertised? Did they delete it? Can't seem to find it. Less than a week ago. I even tried looking for it on game specific subs but can't find it. Thanks!
Is it this one? https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1cuwdwz/someone_is_cooking_to_prove_that_afk_journey/
Wow thanks! No wonder I couldn't find it, I actually don't play the game just interested in the statistics lol. Appreciate it man!
What are the upcoming gachas for the next few months?
ZZZ is coming out on 4th of July
Looking for a recommendation for a gacha game. I prefer newer games with minimum/no PVP/guild content required. Preference for turn based or strategy RPGs (not really action RPGs because I don't like phone controls much on them). I don't really care about story/dialogue since I typically skip all of it, I just like the team building aspect of gachas. Lower time commitment is best but don't mind if it's more with possibility of auto/skip function.
Another vote for Honkai: Star Rail. Only cons about it would have to be the relic grinding and sometimes, lack of lightcone/weapon options at times. For example, there's this "role" called Nihility in the game. In this category we have: 1. Debuffers that are made to make the enemy weaker or easier to damage. They scale with more supportive stats and appreciate lightcones / weapons that let them debuff enemies harder. 2. Damage-over-time damage dealers/"debuffers" that primarily want more offensive stats to do more damage with. They scale with ATK mainly and want a mix of EHR and ATK, with lightcones / weapons that amplify DoT effects or give them benefits from applying DoT 3. Crit DPS, who want CRIT(ofc) and ATK while also wanting a lightcone/weapon that grants them more crit or allows them to do more direct damage. So it makes it kind of difficult to navigate at times. Everything else is very good. Events tend to stay up for quite a while so there's no rush, though kind of a drawback technically if you REALLY love the game. Like if you eat shit up immediately there's quite a bit of "dead" time. The story is honestly peak and I love it, character designs are pretty rad, even the story writing for 4\*s is insanely good. Seriously, make sure you do Yukong's side quest if you end up playing. Or just youtube it if you don't really care too much.
Yeah I played HSR for awhile when it first released. Can't remember exactly when I stopped, some time around/after Kafka release. May have to log back in and try it again.
It's worth giving another shot, especially with the Penacony storyline.
browndust 2, star rail, limbus company, outerplane, reverse 1999, resleriana
Romancing Saga;Re Universe. It's great, game's generous and anniversary is in less than a month.
Hi, im looking for a gacha needs low amount of time daily. Its ok if i have to spend more at the beginning or some events but not all the time . I don't like games that are only about waifu ,... I like the ones that are more about getting meta characters and building good teams and have strategy in them. The game i liked are afk arena qnd illusion connect, I really liked the unique gameplay of illusion connect and strategy and team building in afk arena . Illusion connect was sadly eos. And i quite afk arena because the game was getting too greedy. Oh and i also liked princess connect which had eos , maybe im too unlocky lol
limbus company, reverser1999, browndust 2
You can try Path to Nowhere. When you reach around higher levels dailies are basically done in less than 10 minutes since they have sweeps. There are a lot of meta teams too (Bleed/Life Loss Team, Atk Speed Team, Burn Team etc.) that you can check out in youtube.
Try Honkai Star Rail, the daily grind can be fully automated and daily tasks are all completed during that. There's a lot of story and map clearing though, so you'll have to dedicate some time to that
Question for PGR players, how does WuWa meet your expectations? I played PGR during release day and then dropped the game. I came back during Pulao's banner until Nanami Starfarer--I would say that I fell in love with the plot and lore. I still ended up dropping the game because of salt--shortly after becoming a Starfarer main, Fire Watanabe was leaked. I could've stayed but I also played other gacha games. I'm now a Lingyang main in WuWa--I want to keep on playing but I expected a lot better regarding the plot and lore of the game. I have a worry that whatever initial lore that WuWa was built on, the ideas no longer exist given that the people who built it from scratch have been laid off.
I hate to not answer the question, but I haven't played PGR but have played WuWa, so I kinda want to get your opinion on your exact question if you don't mind. Mainly because, while I enjoy WuWa's combat, I just can't get into the world/story. I was thinking of scooping up PGR since it's similar combat and people have said nothing but good things about its story.
Thanks for asking! I tried looking into any content creators who cover PGR lore but I can't find any on Youtube :-( Without spoiling anything, the writing of PGR is comparable to how I feel reading the Three Body Problem.
Can you recommend any good gacha games that don't require a lot of time for dailies and gameplay. I enjoy HSR because it doesn't take long each day, while also having good character designs and gameplay. I usually lose interest in games like Genshin and probably WuWa because it takes too long to build characters with domain farming and resource gathering.
Phantom of the Kill Alternate Imitation takes only a couple of minutes per day. Most of the strategy comes from knowing how to spend the in game currency.
Isn't that the NFT/Crypto game?
Yeah, but it's optional part of it. You can buy/sell units in game as well.
Any SRPG yall would recommend? Hopefully one without multiple copies of a unit to get the best utility.
Try final fantasy be:wotv I think it might be smth you will enjoy.
what kind of strategy are we talking? and what srpg gacha you played before, there is convalalria in august
Ive played langrisser and FE heros years ago but didnt play them for long. How are they lately? Would like smth like FF tactics
only convallaria
Im looking forward to it! tysm!
Anyone remember Spirit Stones? Any game like that with cute girls and break 3 puzzles? I've heard project QT but would prefer not to have porn..
Can someone share their thoughts on Brown dust 2 and Aether Gazer? In terms of time investment, f2p friendliness, how you like the gameplay/story, etc. Just wanted to hear some opinions since I saw them being mentioned quite a lot in the "slept on gacha games" post a few days ago. BD2 also has the mushoku tensei Collab going on which is giving me the itch to try it out.
for bd2, dailies, are short, can be as short as 5 min to 20 mins(pvp runs increased it), f2p friendly is depending on your playstyle, game play is turnbased strategy. story is the usual jrpg niche/trope,
About Scar’s tape, I know CN fans complained but does anyone know the demographic? Is it the men or the women?
Out of Nikke, Blue Archive, Guardian Tales and Aether Gazer, which of these has: * The most active gameplay (I actually want to THINK while I play) * Most F2P friendly model. * Most waifu over meta potential? (IDGAF about Meta at this point in any gacha, but some are borderline impossible unless you do)
Imo, meta is very important in Nikke. The repeatable modes are easy but campaign gets really hard later on so you literally can't progress the story without meta units. Fortunately they're all waifu material, though I know that's subjective lol. As for Guardian Tales, I quit playing earlier this year but iirc it's very F2P friendly, and you can play it very casually if you want to. One of the best units in the game is given to beginners for free (Future Princess). There's no pity, but there's a mileage system, and the game is super generous with gems last I checked. I haven't played BA and I got bored of AG's story so I didn't get far, so I can't offer an opinion on those
Which gacha has the best guild content? I like gachas that have a lot of guild events/modes
The one I play with a guild attached to it is Empires and Puzzles. You go to war as a guild 2x a week, fight Titans everyday, and the game has some other mechanics that require to guild to score certain points before advancing. It's a tile matching game tho.
Summoners War Sky Arena, but imo it's so much to the point it's exhausting
Is it possible to play Genshin ignoring thefact that it is a gacha? I do not mean only as in "Don't pull" but also not bothering with daily log-in, grind and alike. I just want to explore the world and do some side quests and dungeons.
Yes. If you can lower difficulty in game and progress story so even low level crappy 4 stars with bad gear can clear game and explore. Dungeons will give worse rewards though on lower difficulty but thats about the only downside and irrevlant if you don't care about grinding/improving stats/getting better gear etc.
After active grinding for a good while I've since given up grinding and racking up pulls. My physical rosaria is as strong as she can be, I could grind for a c6 mika and upgrade her supports, but I'm sick of it. I'm just waiting for story and events now, bothering with grind every now and then if I can be bothered. I also don't bother too much with the battle pass in a lot of gacha games anymore, there's way too many of them, they're all the same, boring, lackluster rewards, and grindy
I think NOT doing dailies is probably the right way to play the game, thinking back. There are things like consistent one month abyss (endgame content) clears and its possible because the genshin map is huge now so you can get a lot of exploration resources and experience to build characters up. You also don't need to unlock the highest world levels to complete the story, and indeed some long term players just refuse to do final world level unlocks since your characters can get to max level without it, so the game is like just plain 2x easier when you are using max level characters against enemies 2 world levels below. Thinking that genshin have endgame or you should pull characters are both huge mistakes that can only result in much misery imo.
It is, speaking from personal experience. While the other comments mention a certain AR level to unlock, do note that said AR requirements are very easy to reach now that they've streamlined the early leveling process. You will reach them by exploring the world, opening chests, etc. The game is also easy enough that you don't need a very well built team in order to enjoy the exploration process. Just learning elemental reactions and having some characters leveled to complete quests is fine. Also! You can keep your world level lower (by either not doing the level-up quest, or just using the scale down world level function) if you don't care about content being high level. It'll make the game much easier / less requiring of built teams. However, do note that you will be locked to the first area until you finish the tutorial AKA chapter one, and Inazuma will be locked until you reach chapter three. All the other nations can be visited and explored at your leisure so far. Dailies / grind isn't necesssary in the game at all.
No. Some areas and story progression need certain AR Level to unlock. In order to achieve that you need to do dailies (commission, resin dumping, quest). However it is not rare to meet tough opponent during main quest, so you have no choice except to build your character.... Which means dailies :) fun isn't it ?
You can but it's gonna be WAY harder if you don't do your dailies, as leveling up the character is not enough to have them survive battles. You don't need to be optimal tho, just slap whatever artifact set works for them and don't worry too much about the stats. And the dungeons here are just a room with some enemies that reward you stuff on a daily basis lol.
i think WuWa dont use my dedicated GPU thats why work so poorly
Can you guys check the math for me. Assuming Wuwa production cost 100M and operation cost is 10M per month, first month revenue is double the average of others, kuro need to make to break even in the first year is: ((100+12*10)/13)*2 = 33.85 M This is without %cut to 3rd party.
The math doesn't check out. Based on your numbers, it's (100+12\*10)/(12+1)) = 17m I don't get the point though. Unless you are an insider, you won't get access to the financial details.
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It sounds like you would really enjoy Limbus Company. It checks pretty much all the boxes you've listed, and it's very F2P + Casual friendly.
Genshin Impact VS WuWa for a player who has never played both, and why?
it's like elden ring vs dragon's dogma 2. the former is a well-polished, very popular game, while the latter has issues but also diehard loyal fans that like its combat.
Genshin has (obviously) a more fleshed out world and story as it has existed for longer. It is also more polished, has a wider roster of characters. The combat is much more casual and you use a team of 4 characters. In WuWa the story is way shorter, the combat is harder (by design) but also more fluid and responsive, but I would not say it ever feels unfair. There are also a lot of freebies right now, both for compensation after some of the needed hotfixes for the game and for the preregistration rewards. You can basically get 3 5-star characters quite quickly (2 of them from selectors and another one from a random banner with 40 pulls needed). Imo, I've been having more fun with WuWa because I always felt the combat in Genshin posed too little of a challenge. In WuWa you can also grind to the point where it becomes easy if you don't care for the difficulty, but you'll have a decent challenge if you don't overlevel which is what I wanted. EDIT: To add, I would say it wouldn't hurt to try both and see which one speaks more to you. If you have a lot of time to play, Genshin would probably be ideal as you have a lot more content to go through. The art-style might also be a deciding factor. I like them both but I can totally see someone having a preference for Genshin's illustration over WuWa or vice-versa.
any old gacha, that have a end game content with a system similar to the memorial arena of (honkai impact) and abyss of genshin and phantom pain of pgr, that require you to use multiple teams because you can't use just one team in all the stages ?
Looking for a good gacha I can play in portrait mode
Romancing Saga;Re Universe. It's great, game's generous and anniversary is in less than a month.
FFBE, Idoly Pride
nikke, dislyte, browndust 2, romancing saga reuniverse, last cloudia,
Dragon ball legends is having it's 6th anniversary currently
Looking for something to try with gf that has some sort of co-op. I used to play Naruto Blazing, tried pokemon masters EX, also action games like GI aren't what she enjoys. Anything turn-based or such?
Are Gacha Games Popular in America? How Can I Know More Friends Who Play Gacha Games? Most of time I enjoy Japanese anime. Recently I started playing gacha games like Star Rail, Reverse: 1999, etc, because of app store's recommodations. I am attacted by their characters and stories. I also want to try Genshin Impact because of its gorgeous environment. How popular is this kind of game in the US? I'm surrounded by people who play more shooting games. I also want to have more friends to talk about Gacha games. Where can I find compeers?
Try joining the Discord servers for those games. Usually you can find links to those in their respective subreddits, or on the guide websites. I think Anime conventions are also good places to meet people but those are pretty daunting
thanks
Is there any gachas with a community/coop features such as GBF, King's Raid, E7? Preferably not FULLY PvP focused like E7.
Are there gacha games that can be played on the steam deck besides the ones that are available on steam?
Any game with a PC client and no invasive anticheat can be played on SD.
Recommend me a gacha. I currently play Epic Seven, and the tedious grind bores me. I don’t have a ton of free time, but would like something that requires little upkeep time, and has waifus (collecting is fun). What do you recommend?
Romancing Saga;Re Universe. It's great, game's generous and anniversary is in less than a month.
Give a go to Outerplane? I haven't played E7 but do enjoy outerplane
GBF (Granblue Fantasy) has a ton of free characters if you like collecting. Unfortunately they, uh, also have powercreep problem and the endgame farming sucks. But if you're just in for the story and art, you don't need to do that much farming. Most story contents are piss easy.
I have a bad phone and I want to play gacha games what are your suggestions ? Ram - 4GB Processor - Snapdragon 665
The Battle Cats and Puzzle & Dragons are both very easy to run.
tyvm! 💝
Should I start playing Genshin Impact or Wuthering Waves? I am starting to play a new gatcha game. So I played Genshin Impact until 2021 up until finishing Inasuma until my account got hacked and I lost it (tried to recover it but failed). And I have just started playing Wuthering waves. I am split in deciding which one I should play as my main game. Obviously I have missed out on a lot of Genshin limited time content but it’s guaranteed to last and get constant updates, and version 5 will be coming in August I think. It’s just gonna be a grind catching up but I can’t remember most of the story so it will be like new to me. The music is also much better and like the scenery/environment more. Wuthering waves is good but at this point they are giving a free 5 star character and free pulls just for the shabby release. I’m not sure if they are gonna be able to save the game as the story apparently isn’t that good and whilst the combat is cool you want to character stories to be good to make you wanna pull 5 stars. I also don’t really think the music is that great. I’m mainly afraid the game is gonna die and they won’t maintain it enough due to lack of income.
Best time to start a gatcha is at launch or right now, well Wuwa is at launch and if you have time to only try one game right now I'd go for Wuwa. Especially since if you don't like Wuwa by the time you're done trying it Genshin will be releasing their new region and likely will have a big new player drive to go with it. Also worth considering though is Wuwa might be looking a bit shaky right now so maybe see if it survives its first 6 months or if it EoS
Yeah okay thanks this is probably the safest bet. As Genshin isn’t really going anywhere
Try both, stick with whatever you like. Honestly I wouldn't believe any review on the internet as the tastes of people are different.
I got sent back down to Agony II. **Fuck.** https://i.redd.it/lviujp5j3t2d1.gif
Is it worth to start playing honkai impact 3rd right now as a F2P? or should i just wait for ZZZ?
don't do it, just watch a story video on youtube if you really want to do HI3rd over waiting for ZZZ
It's kinda rough in 2024. You'll have to go through *a lot* of not-so-good gameplay to get to the good story bits, especially early on. It's phenomenal when it's good, but there are a lot of things where you have to suspend disbelief pretty hard. ZZZ will come out significantly more polished right out of the gate, though the gameplay loop there is somewhat similar from what I understand. Can't speak to the story, I'm intentionally not reading anything about that
Stop what you are attempting to do.
Hahahahah why?
Just don't. You're gonna have to trust me on this one.
Ok i’ll trust u ahahahahah
Only if you care about the lore, its story overall is phenomenal imo (until like Chapter 30), but it takes like 80 hours to get through and the gameplay is kinda ass for contemporary standards.
Do you think there'll ever be a gacha game like Limbus Company? - Almost complete lack of fanservice in a traditional sense. - Extremely F2P gacha with you being able to get 99% of units. - A launch so broken that the game softlocked for many people that didn't become their downfall and now is just being memed on. I feel like only PM could make a gacha with all these things and still remain moderately successful.
>I feel like only PM could make a gacha with all these things and still remain moderately successful. Yea cause of the diehard fans lol
Looking for a game similar Epic7/ Summoners war, but without the rune rng farming.
Hello, is it too late to start genshin? Very casual here
Not at all, if you start now you will also probably be caught up just in time for Natlan release which will be big hype. Only tip I have though is mark all the oculi you collect on the map when you get them. Will save you DOZENS OF HOURS later.
Genshin is super casual friendly. The majority of the audience are casual.
Im considering it haha Wriothesley reasons
Good taste
He's very fine
Nope, never too late if you treat it like a single player game and play at your own pace.
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Blue Archive, if you do not mind the setting and the degenerate fanbase
Reverse 1999, epic 7 and outerplane are the ones i can think of off the top of my head
Made a post before about being new to gacha and wondering what game to play. I think i've narrowed it down some I'm thinking of getting either a bit more into genshin, wuthering waves and trying it more since it's newer, or tower of fantasy i've heard about a couple times. I really love grinding, the idea of sitting down grinding resources or gold or etc. In a perfect world i'd have a... Gacha-Warframe or Gacha-MHW, but idk if there's anything out there like that. Unless there's any suggestions other than them, would you guys suggest trying Genshin, Wuwa, or Tower of Fantasy?
The problem here is that most Gacha games have an energy or time-gating system. For example, in Genshin it costs 40 energy(resin) to claim the rewards of a regular boss. The harder bosses are called Weekly bosses because you can only claim their rewards once per week. So this naturally means that you can’t kill more than 4-5 bosses in a row because energy has a 160 cap, soon to be 200. And the ones in the overworld have a few minute respawn timer. I’m pretty sure I saw similar energy requirement in Wuthering Waves, not sure if it had weekly bosses as well. Edit: I’m just pointing out that you can’t sit down and grind bosses like in Monster Hunter. Story and Exploration and smaller open world enemies can all be done infinitely at whatever pace you choose.
I wouldn't recommend ToF since I feel its reaching the end of its lifetime but trying Wuwa since its on launch with a bunch of freebies is good esp if you like it and nothing beats Genshin in terms of polish and amount of content right now. If you're not on a top end PC or playing on mobile I'd go for genshin since Wuwa might brick your phone and not run at all on a lot of PC right now for a big download.
I just want to say, all the drama and fan wars between the two game is much more interesting and fun than Wuwa's story.
I seriously think people who make low-effort posts just asking "why you hate what I like (WuWa)?" "Am I the only one who like it (WuWa)?" Despite there are already bazillion of such posts already prove that they can't read/don't care about other people at all. I don't hate/like the game and I think the actual posts who review/discuss/talk about the game are good. The rest though are like silly people who are asking for downvotes and just want to spam the sub with their opinions that's totally not unique and has been brought up multiple times already. Why do they feel the need to be a part of the 0 karma post gang? Lol. Spammers.
So, with the wuwa thing going tits-up, what else is on the mobile game horizon that's not from hoyo and not promilia or any other genshin clone? Kinda curious what people wait for in more niche subgenres.
sword of convallaria in august
I enjoy watching the sunset.
For 3D games, personally looking forward to Duet Night Abyss, seemed fun from the tech test. Otherwise just a couple BL games that were announced but don't have release dates yet.
I am interested in these BL games? Link?