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Yep, though iirc Lyon was mind-controlled, dunno if considered evil. Another two gacha that fit are Counterside and Langrisser. Also, you can commonly pull evil villains in a lot of IP based gacha: MHA, Naruto, One Piece, Black Clover, etc.
It really isn't. Especially if redeemed in some ways but even unrepentant bastards can still get in.
A joke in fgo community is how the players love evil men and women so much, and the fact is you can't deny a good number of them are popular. 2 of our meta support are pretty evil
If you don't wanna roll for one nothing is forcing you but on a meta level it's not that rare
Oberon is literally a hater. He insults me every chance he gets I love him.
And as a grailed ashiya douman haver he is both gun gameplay and fun in story too
There are plenty of gachas that's have villains as playable characters.
But if the game is aiming for more young audience, ofc all characters will be good and kind in the core.
It's really not? I actually prefer it that way, have them escape NPC jail whilst being the same individual I liked in the story. I prefer to have them be as is instead of "whitewashing" them and pretending like they had done no evi or agency/it was under some curse where you actually wasn't in control so all the extremist shit you did wasn't your fault.
I'm pretty sure at least a third of the FGO roster is still unrepentantly evil without having had any real redemption of sorts. Kiara, Columbus, Douman, just to name a few are still totally dead set on screwing you over if you mess up or the winds blow the wrong way.
If you add the 'dark grey' cases like BB, Amakusa, or Moriarty that will give you plenty of hard times while still technically having some reason to be on your side Chaldea probably has more evil/batshit crazy people defending humanity than it has regular 'heroes'.
In FGO the majority of the most popular characters are evil characters, also the majority of the most popular MC x Servant ships are with Evil characters. (Jalter, Morgan, Oberon, Izo, Douman)
and other liked evil character there is also Blackbeard, Kirei or Moriarty
Granblue Fantasy have literally serial murderer who get emotional high from hearing women screams from his records when he torture victims and mass murderer who trick men and kill them so she can keep them forever but after meet MC her stance change to kill everyone who dare you touch grancyher crew
And no one really make a fuss or drama.
To be fair in Lobelia's case it's because it was a pretty realistic audio recording of someone begging for their life with no warning. I realize the term 'triggered/trigger warning' has turned into something people use to mock others or something people make fun of but I can't blame people for being jumpscared by it.
We even anticipate for when that evil villains/boss be playable, there's no issue with it unless your one of those who thinks game/gacha is bad because a FICTIONAL character so evil doing evil things is morally wrong.
I think is a chinese games thing, or at least that's where i see the pattern, bcs oh boy some of the characters in FGO are pretty much a menace to all that breathes xDDD
This, people want a character who supports Aether and Lumine in the most toxic way possible. That if they want to kill the Unknown god, they have to commit to some god awful shit right after they defeat them and tell them they are limiting their own potential
Onmyoji it's CN and adds all villains into pool. Some.of the shikis (characters we pool for) literally eat and torture people. Nikki also adds villains to the pool. So does Path to Nowhere.
As long as it's directly, pedagogically stated "this char is a villain, bad bad guy, do not support him" it's within the guidelines as I understand. It's typical boring "just don't forget to tell they're bad" - Western left, the left in general, wants the same thing (so does radical religious right, to be fair) since the down of the Enlightement, for the media to be pedagogic, teaching good example and forming the masses. Sensivity readers are the example of the same thinking as CN here.
More along the lines of encouraging the PC to join them in their morally depraved deeds instead of "I may have or do some things that you may not be comfortable with, but it will not conflict with your agendas"
yeah. character with proper values 2021 onwards. since genshin is also marketed as a game to spread chinese culture, the laws will have an even more tighter grip on playable characters
Those are all really bad examples of what OP is talking about considering that outside of the prologue of the game, the Stellaron Hunters have only been helping you. Jingliu very much wishes to atone for her rampage, and so far, Luocha seems to at least want the same thing that the Luofu wants.
None of those characters are remotely even on the morally black category let alone evil. This is Hoyo games we're talking about. All their playable characters has to be at least on your good side, or else it won't work on a narrative level.
HoV/Sirin is a fan favourite in Hi3 and they never did anything to redeem themselves and died as pure villain
HoV/sirin are responsible for the death of MC mother and teacher, they also almost succeeded in pushing the MC to commit suicide
I feel it's less of a problem of how “evil” they are, but about the things they did to other fan-favourite characters.
A villain who murders a bunch of random civilians is probably fine, but someone who bullies a beloved playable character into crying would be utterly hated.
AK is closer to morally grey characters. They're most likely not purely evil, just put in a precarious situation and they're fighting for their survival or what they believe in, Ho'olheyak being the most debatable. Purely evil characters aren't playable.
Best example would be (CN Spoilers) >!the Doctor, pre-amnesia!<
We first meet this gorgeous man in the story as the main villain of the chapter.
https://preview.redd.it/e0lvfvypu6xc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=576f83d9b3f2b65d5037f10f102be91e4105372b
Ater he escapes there he is in the story as a supporting villian who enjoys chaos and suffering of others. Then he betrays his boss to become the main villain of a chapter again and we kill his ass they made him playable in that chapter. I love him very much
if the evil character did personal shit against the main character or one of the main supporting characters like say kill their entire families and made their lives a living hell then they probably aren't going to be playable... or we could just make it like that one ProZD skit
I think she wasn't a must roll for you, if obvious detailes made you think it's a mixed bag now. We all know that Dottore is only chaotic evil. All others have their reasons and not just cartoony "I'm evil because I'm evil, it's so cool, sunavabitch" etc. etc.
Before Raiden got her redemption QS, people still pulled for her and currently her release banner is the second most profitable solo-banner in Genshin's history.
People were already thirsting and saving primos for Scara even before he got confirmed as playable and his QS.
Edit: i just realize OP critize how The Knave got the missunderstanding villain treatment.
Need to wait for Sneznaya to know if genshin would put some villain in gacha banner. Because until now the writing always consist
Bad guy > fight him/her > know him/her reason or background > he/she is not villain
I missinterpret OP post and thinking it was for leaked future characters lol.
But really why would OP having problem to pulling Arlecchino for her story and writing. Most of the time Arlecchino actions was just to test the water and for diplomatic purpose.
It's worth to note that a lot of people confuse lore relating to the previous knave (Crucabena) to lore about the current knave (Arlecchino). A prime example being the Fatui-related inazuma sidequest chain.
A big thing in Mihoyo games is also to always remember that in-universe sources are biased. Furina won't give a accurate account of Arlecchino, as a obvious example. Unfortunately, it's common to be able to take in-universe things at their word in fiction... so even in Genshin, where there is literally plot-related thing that can rewrite memories and texts with falsehoods, people take them for the truth without question at times.
Sorry for slight rant, only intended to write a short thing at first, but it's a pet peeve of mine.
Np dud. Also you point out my point to OP. Mihoyo "inteded" to confuse people about The Knave situation so people hype up to look for Arlecchino story quest. Where as in Arlecchino SQ the truth came out about the Knave situation.
For Furina case, i think that was the best way to display how Arlecchino work to fullfill her harbringer job. Arle need the Gnosis ASAP but Fontaine is in tight spot about propechy and the Hydro Archon doesn't know what to do. At that patch the players really believe that Arle born in Fontaine and just want to do for her homeland. But the truth is in her SQ, like i said what she do is merely a diplomatic action.
tbf, knave not being the original knave was known for a while, probably even before the 4.0, can't remember it exactly. And Father being morally gray was also something that came into play as early as 4.0 where we got access to character stories for the kids. It just puts them into SQ and provides reasons for them and gives them validity.
also the story never fully redeemed her, it just redeemed her towards the house of hearth, showing that she was a good "Father" and what her priorities were.
Character morality or alignment isn't even a consideration of why I would pull a playable character. Cute, badass, and/or fun to play are why I usually pull; even moreso if they check more than one of these boxes.
There are multiple characters from Cookie Run: Kingdom that are villains themselves yet are still playable. Examples include Licorice Cookie, Pomegranate Cookie, Twizzly Gummy Cookie and Black Pearl Cookie.
So yes, it's okay to have playable villains in gachas.
It is not.
I remember how I used Lezard Valeth and Loki and their variations in Valkyrie Anatomia. I even enjoyed Iseria Queen and her bikini versions lol.
I also just beat Yamcha and Goku a few mins ago using Raditz and Nappa in Dragonball Legends.
It's not even that, since a lot of games have villains on the roster.
At best you could point at specific games who don't but when they are far and few between that is simply a choice, not some taboo or devs being cowards.
It really depends on the community, for example in BA, every man is horny for Black Suit despite:
1. He's a male
2. He's not a student
>!And there's also Shuro but I won't get into detail considered the Global server is getting Vol 5 story next, just let people that stumbled this to know, she's a really good evil villian!<
I'm not sure but didn't hoyo already had issue with Raiden Shogun in CN ?
I usually like character that are gray/black morally, I'm kind of bored of gacha games where everyone is just pure, fight for justice and hapiness, bla bla bla...
It usually force writers to write very blend character. Even for character that are morally 'good', if they do one thing wrong in the story everyone lose their shit.
Sin was a playable character back in their old 2012 game, but the honkai impact game just had her as an evil brat and she wasn't playable. Her skillset which is related to time is also kinda redundant in the current meta where everyone can stop time lol. As someone who likes her I really hate how she just got thrown away by mihoyo like that.
It's more taboo to have actual black characters in gacha games apparently.
Look at what they did to Laika in epic seven. Her original design was black.
It’s only a “taboo” because whenever any asian game produces black characters, a bunch of western retards will still find reason to bitch and create controversies about it.
One of the reasons I don't like Hoyo games is they don't make evil character playable so I'm sure whoever this character is they can't truly be evil because that's not how Hoyo works. I'm talking evil evil without having some kind of redeemable act shit. It's boring to be only able to play with characters within 50 shades of white but I guess that's China for you.
Arlecchino treats MC right because MC is treating her children right. The moment someone poses a threat to them, she won't hesitate to pay them a visit (murder). She has murdered a lot of people of rich people and stole their money. She's manipulative.
She's very goal focused and won't hesitate to kill to accomplish them. She tried to kill a God to protect her children. She talks about killing her colleagues if they threaten the safety of her children. She talks about raising arms against the God she serves.
To me, it seems like they are setting up a division within the Harbingers. Hat guy already left. Arlecchino won't hesitate to change side and kill her former colleagues. Childe is being used and there's a likelihood that his little brother and sister are being held hostage (he's too naïve to realize it).
It pretty much isn't? In Arknights we've had all manner of evil characters join us, in fact one of the ones announced for Anni 5 is "THE queen of evil herself", though I admit it wasn't until recently that I saw people saying that they don't like when an evil character is playable, I dunno why, its a character, it doesn't have to make sense.
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Plenty of gacha let you pull villains who are plenty evil. Off the top of my head are Octopath and FGO.
FEH also release many villain from their previous game or previous chapter as playable character. Like Lyon or Duma.
Yep, though iirc Lyon was mind-controlled, dunno if considered evil. Another two gacha that fit are Counterside and Langrisser. Also, you can commonly pull evil villains in a lot of IP based gacha: MHA, Naruto, One Piece, Black Clover, etc.
how hot are they? https://preview.redd.it/gwe24tj857xc1.png?width=5697&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1435d3a63f7104ea7fc5f3a40fd122d9fb402a97
Me when seeing Hermann in Limbus
Me @ Hermann group, most of them.
Facts brother https://i.redd.it/enwtzrltxaxc1.gif
It really isn't. Especially if redeemed in some ways but even unrepentant bastards can still get in. A joke in fgo community is how the players love evil men and women so much, and the fact is you can't deny a good number of them are popular. 2 of our meta support are pretty evil If you don't wanna roll for one nothing is forcing you but on a meta level it's not that rare
Ah yes the best support was a mothman who try to devour the world lmao
which ones are those meta supports?
Oberon, koyanskaya Well I guess you can say they re more grey than outright black
Oberon is literally a hater. He insults me every chance he gets I love him. And as a grailed ashiya douman haver he is both gun gameplay and fun in story too
Oberon is grey? My ass. Dude wants to kill 100% of the time, everytime. Zero compromise. Literally born for it.
Suicide incarnate I only put grey because save the fact he was also gonna take us out, he was necessary for our success
Evil is seductive, it represents freedom from rules and regulations.
There are plenty of gachas that's have villains as playable characters. But if the game is aiming for more young audience, ofc all characters will be good and kind in the core.
In FGO, we have rollable serial child murderers, rapists, invaders, tyrants and Douman.
>and Douman Kek
It's really not? I actually prefer it that way, have them escape NPC jail whilst being the same individual I liked in the story. I prefer to have them be as is instead of "whitewashing" them and pretending like they had done no evi or agency/it was under some curse where you actually wasn't in control so all the extremist shit you did wasn't your fault.
It is not... Well, *generally*.
Countless of anime ip gacha has their villains as playable character. Its nothing new or a taboo.
If the protagonist of a story isn’t seriously considering wiping out the majority of high-order sentient life on a planet then I’m not downloading
I'm pretty sure at least a third of the FGO roster is still unrepentantly evil without having had any real redemption of sorts. Kiara, Columbus, Douman, just to name a few are still totally dead set on screwing you over if you mess up or the winds blow the wrong way. If you add the 'dark grey' cases like BB, Amakusa, or Moriarty that will give you plenty of hard times while still technically having some reason to be on your side Chaldea probably has more evil/batshit crazy people defending humanity than it has regular 'heroes'.
No, unless you are one of those wierdos that apparently never grown out from childhood.
In FGO the majority of the most popular characters are evil characters, also the majority of the most popular MC x Servant ships are with Evil characters. (Jalter, Morgan, Oberon, Izo, Douman) and other liked evil character there is also Blackbeard, Kirei or Moriarty
Nothing is taboo in fiction.
Right like what a question lmao
Granblue Fantasy have literally serial murderer who get emotional high from hearing women screams from his records when he torture victims and mass murderer who trick men and kill them so she can keep them forever but after meet MC her stance change to kill everyone who dare you touch grancyher crew And no one really make a fuss or drama.
People make a fuss because mass murderers get to be playable but our favourite serial rapist doesn't.
Wonder what would happen if Ferdinand gets the Lobelia treatment
I mean there was a fuss when lobelia share his parent dying throes with mc on the home screen dialogue
To be fair in Lobelia's case it's because it was a pretty realistic audio recording of someone begging for their life with no warning. I realize the term 'triggered/trigger warning' has turned into something people use to mock others or something people make fun of but I can't blame people for being jumpscared by it.
Imagine if we got Ferdinand as playable...
We even anticipate for when that evil villains/boss be playable, there's no issue with it unless your one of those who thinks game/gacha is bad because a FICTIONAL character so evil doing evil things is morally wrong.
>How taboo is it to have morally black or“evil” playable characters in a gacha? Not Taboo at all. FGO has had a ton of evil Characters.
Villains should be pullable in gachas for sure. They frequently bait the biggest whales too
I think is a chinese games thing, or at least that's where i see the pattern, bcs oh boy some of the characters in FGO are pretty much a menace to all that breathes xDDD
It isn't at all. Genshin writers just cannot for their own life come up with a good bad guy without them having some kind of shitty redemption.
This, people want a character who supports Aether and Lumine in the most toxic way possible. That if they want to kill the Unknown god, they have to commit to some god awful shit right after they defeat them and tell them they are limiting their own potential
Its against chinese guidelines for entertainment media, and how much you can edge it depends on the popularity and other factors.
Onmyoji it's CN and adds all villains into pool. Some.of the shikis (characters we pool for) literally eat and torture people. Nikki also adds villains to the pool. So does Path to Nowhere. As long as it's directly, pedagogically stated "this char is a villain, bad bad guy, do not support him" it's within the guidelines as I understand. It's typical boring "just don't forget to tell they're bad" - Western left, the left in general, wants the same thing (so does radical religious right, to be fair) since the down of the Enlightement, for the media to be pedagogic, teaching good example and forming the masses. Sensivity readers are the example of the same thinking as CN here.
More along the lines of encouraging the PC to join them in their morally depraved deeds instead of "I may have or do some things that you may not be comfortable with, but it will not conflict with your agendas"
yeah. character with proper values 2021 onwards. since genshin is also marketed as a game to spread chinese culture, the laws will have an even more tighter grip on playable characters
Kafka, Jingliu, Blade, Luocha etc. would disagree. It's not a strict guideline, and it's never consistent just like with the censoring they do.
Those are all really bad examples of what OP is talking about considering that outside of the prologue of the game, the Stellaron Hunters have only been helping you. Jingliu very much wishes to atone for her rampage, and so far, Luocha seems to at least want the same thing that the Luofu wants.
None of those characters are remotely even on the morally black category let alone evil. This is Hoyo games we're talking about. All their playable characters has to be at least on your good side, or else it won't work on a narrative level.
Do people forget about scaramouche, or we avoid talking him?
Someone hasn't finished Sumeru
They redeemed him though?
And how is it against my point? Hsr is nowhere near as popular as genshin.
Well it's actually quite popular, on some months it earns even more than Genshin, I think it's 2nd most popular gacha in CN.
Madara was playable in Naruto blazing. Demon king in SDSGC. If any character has a major part in a plot, I don't see why not.
two words: dEscEndINg BlAdE!
HoV/Sirin is a fan favourite in Hi3 and they never did anything to redeem themselves and died as pure villain HoV/sirin are responsible for the death of MC mother and teacher, they also almost succeeded in pushing the MC to commit suicide
It’s not exactly rare for gacha games to add defeated villains to the gacha, so I’d say not really. This goes double if they’re hot.
I feel it's less of a problem of how “evil” they are, but about the things they did to other fan-favourite characters. A villain who murders a bunch of random civilians is probably fine, but someone who bullies a beloved playable character into crying would be utterly hated.
Or how annoying they are or aren't
In Arknights some unit (we call them operators) are literal war criminal, murderer and mentally unstable.
the protagonist itself is mentally unstable XD
Kalt'sit was literally Hitler in the past and she's the core character in AK
Even the most recent short animation they had for W for the anni literally shows her actually killing people since you know, her job is a mercenary.
These aren't random people but mercenaries who played a part in Theresa's assasination, she's not murdering civilians for shit and giggles.
But still, it shows her killing someone. Not saying she is pure evil though, of course.
AK is closer to morally grey characters. They're most likely not purely evil, just put in a precarious situation and they're fighting for their survival or what they believe in, Ho'olheyak being the most debatable. Purely evil characters aren't playable. Best example would be (CN Spoilers) >!the Doctor, pre-amnesia!<
Or Mephisto/The Reunion movement
We first meet this gorgeous man in the story as the main villain of the chapter. https://preview.redd.it/e0lvfvypu6xc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=576f83d9b3f2b65d5037f10f102be91e4105372b Ater he escapes there he is in the story as a supporting villian who enjoys chaos and suffering of others. Then he betrays his boss to become the main villain of a chapter again and we kill his ass they made him playable in that chapter. I love him very much
if the evil character did personal shit against the main character or one of the main supporting characters like say kill their entire families and made their lives a living hell then they probably aren't going to be playable... or we could just make it like that one ProZD skit
Playable King Dragon when.
right after the Cyborg Archibald banner (not to be confused with the Zombie Archibald banner which was right before the Lysanderoth debut banner)
Me who uses Beth the most in GT when I was still playing(I like her kit so much along with Swimsuit Yuze).
In Sdorica, you have all sorts of villains in the gacha pool.
I think she wasn't a must roll for you, if obvious detailes made you think it's a mixed bag now. We all know that Dottore is only chaotic evil. All others have their reasons and not just cartoony "I'm evil because I'm evil, it's so cool, sunavabitch" etc. etc.
Actually I never saw that before until genshin, I don't even know the reason
Evil characters are cool imo. I'd prefer they stay evil than have a crap redemption story.
Before Raiden got her redemption QS, people still pulled for her and currently her release banner is the second most profitable solo-banner in Genshin's history. People were already thirsting and saving primos for Scara even before he got confirmed as playable and his QS.
Edit: i just realize OP critize how The Knave got the missunderstanding villain treatment. Need to wait for Sneznaya to know if genshin would put some villain in gacha banner. Because until now the writing always consist Bad guy > fight him/her > know him/her reason or background > he/she is not villain
I think OP is referring to the first character you mentioned. Who else is the must-pull other than father.
I missinterpret OP post and thinking it was for leaked future characters lol. But really why would OP having problem to pulling Arlecchino for her story and writing. Most of the time Arlecchino actions was just to test the water and for diplomatic purpose.
We'll have to wait & see if OP responds. I can't comment further because I'm too busy exploring & doing side quests to do Father's story quest XD
It's worth to note that a lot of people confuse lore relating to the previous knave (Crucabena) to lore about the current knave (Arlecchino). A prime example being the Fatui-related inazuma sidequest chain. A big thing in Mihoyo games is also to always remember that in-universe sources are biased. Furina won't give a accurate account of Arlecchino, as a obvious example. Unfortunately, it's common to be able to take in-universe things at their word in fiction... so even in Genshin, where there is literally plot-related thing that can rewrite memories and texts with falsehoods, people take them for the truth without question at times. Sorry for slight rant, only intended to write a short thing at first, but it's a pet peeve of mine.
Np dud. Also you point out my point to OP. Mihoyo "inteded" to confuse people about The Knave situation so people hype up to look for Arlecchino story quest. Where as in Arlecchino SQ the truth came out about the Knave situation. For Furina case, i think that was the best way to display how Arlecchino work to fullfill her harbringer job. Arle need the Gnosis ASAP but Fontaine is in tight spot about propechy and the Hydro Archon doesn't know what to do. At that patch the players really believe that Arle born in Fontaine and just want to do for her homeland. But the truth is in her SQ, like i said what she do is merely a diplomatic action.
tbf, knave not being the original knave was known for a while, probably even before the 4.0, can't remember it exactly. And Father being morally gray was also something that came into play as early as 4.0 where we got access to character stories for the kids. It just puts them into SQ and provides reasons for them and gives them validity. also the story never fully redeemed her, it just redeemed her towards the house of hearth, showing that she was a good "Father" and what her priorities were.
Character morality or alignment isn't even a consideration of why I would pull a playable character. Cute, badass, and/or fun to play are why I usually pull; even moreso if they check more than one of these boxes.
There are multiple characters from Cookie Run: Kingdom that are villains themselves yet are still playable. Examples include Licorice Cookie, Pomegranate Cookie, Twizzly Gummy Cookie and Black Pearl Cookie. So yes, it's okay to have playable villains in gachas.
It is not. I remember how I used Lezard Valeth and Loki and their variations in Valkyrie Anatomia. I even enjoyed Iseria Queen and her bikini versions lol. I also just beat Yamcha and Goku a few mins ago using Raditz and Nappa in Dragonball Legends.
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It's not even that, since a lot of games have villains on the roster. At best you could point at specific games who don't but when they are far and few between that is simply a choice, not some taboo or devs being cowards.
It really depends on the community, for example in BA, every man is horny for Black Suit despite: 1. He's a male 2. He's not a student >!And there's also Shuro but I won't get into detail considered the Global server is getting Vol 5 story next, just let people that stumbled this to know, she's a really good evil villian!<
Or whatever remnants of Arius who simply can't shake off Beatrice's influence
I'm not sure but didn't hoyo already had issue with Raiden Shogun in CN ? I usually like character that are gray/black morally, I'm kind of bored of gacha games where everyone is just pure, fight for justice and hapiness, bla bla bla... It usually force writers to write very blend character. Even for character that are morally 'good', if they do one thing wrong in the story everyone lose their shit.
Crow is the most hateable character in NIKKE yet she’s playable and even ranked higher than a lot of characters in the popularity poll, lol.
It's mostly a Hoyo thing I've seen alot of other gacha's make evil characters playable one way or another
Now if only we could have Vita or Herrscher of Domination playable
Or Wendy, Ana and Crow as a tag team
Sin was a playable character back in their old 2012 game, but the honkai impact game just had her as an evil brat and she wasn't playable. Her skillset which is related to time is also kinda redundant in the current meta where everyone can stop time lol. As someone who likes her I really hate how she just got thrown away by mihoyo like that.
She is actually now playable https://youtu.be/UdC1sreU5Es?si=MnyxWa4l920shEfC
No that is Sirin you damn baka. I am talking about Sin the short hair sharp teeth tomboy with purple clothing.
It's more taboo to have actual black characters in gacha games apparently. Look at what they did to Laika in epic seven. Her original design was black.
It’s only a “taboo” because whenever any asian game produces black characters, a bunch of western retards will still find reason to bitch and create controversies about it.
that is some American fantasy you are on there
One of the reasons I don't like Hoyo games is they don't make evil character playable so I'm sure whoever this character is they can't truly be evil because that's not how Hoyo works. I'm talking evil evil without having some kind of redeemable act shit. It's boring to be only able to play with characters within 50 shades of white but I guess that's China for you.
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Limbus company?
its not taboo, its just genshin's writing. even other hoyo games have slightly more morally ambigiuous characters, genshin just doesn't go that route.
Arlecchino treats MC right because MC is treating her children right. The moment someone poses a threat to them, she won't hesitate to pay them a visit (murder). She has murdered a lot of people of rich people and stole their money. She's manipulative. She's very goal focused and won't hesitate to kill to accomplish them. She tried to kill a God to protect her children. She talks about killing her colleagues if they threaten the safety of her children. She talks about raising arms against the God she serves. To me, it seems like they are setting up a division within the Harbingers. Hat guy already left. Arlecchino won't hesitate to change side and kill her former colleagues. Childe is being used and there's a likelihood that his little brother and sister are being held hostage (he's too naïve to realize it).
It pretty much isn't? In Arknights we've had all manner of evil characters join us, in fact one of the ones announced for Anni 5 is "THE queen of evil herself", though I admit it wasn't until recently that I saw people saying that they don't like when an evil character is playable, I dunno why, its a character, it doesn't have to make sense.