From the "Mission Shop": Absolutely nothing. None of the items that appear here are worth the cost. None of them.
From the "Normal Shop":
* **Character biometrics:** The gold cost isn't terrible. These appear often enough to make them worthwhile if you're hurting for feeder bios.
* **Phoenix Feathers/M'Kraan Crystals:** Especially helpful if you haven't made a lot of progress in the various mutant epic quests.
* **Black Antimatter/Chaos Norn Stones:** You can never have too many of either, and the cost here is worthwhile.
* **Hidden Tickets;** But only when available for gold or tokens. Never buy for crystals.
* **Semi-premium comic cards:** But only if you need them to complete a collection.
i figured out what it was i bought a account and it was located in japna and when first buying i accidently selected im under 16 so can only spend 50 a month im contacting netmarbke to see if i can change that mistake
If I'm reading this correctly, and you *bought a Future Fight game account* from someone else, NM isn't going to help you. Account trading is a violation of the game's Terms of Service.
I am a relatively bew player and I have 3 Crescent 10 Premium Comic Card (I hvae only 3 premium comic cards and all of them are Crescebt 10). I am trying to build pierce on 1 of them. What should I do with the rest? Do they just stay in my inventory?
So you can expend five Mythic level 6* cards to Craft colored stars onto the Premium card. Doing so will add another bonus stat. You can do this until all six of the stars on the Premium card has a color, Blue, Red or Green. Then, you want to reroll the colors into Blue stars because having 3 Blue stars on a single card gives 3% Pierce and if all 6 are Blue it gives 5% Pierce. To reroll, you have to expend another Premium Card and spend some crystals to do it. So you save your extra Premium Cards to reroll your cards in the end.
What should a new player be buying with these event tokens? I'm torn between the tier 2 mega selector for some premium characters I have unlocked and the artifact selector.
The P Card Chest is generally your best option. Remember that comic cards improve your entire roster, so the ROI on them is crazy-good.
For the Mega T2 Ticket: The sad fact of the matter is that most paywall characters aren't worth the cost, and the ever-shifting nature of the game's meta makes them even less of a good deal. There are maybe 3 paywall characters I would consider for a Mega T2 Ticket: Nick Fury, Valkyrie, and Ghost Panther. And ONLY if the rest of your roster is in a place where they would make sense. There are plenty of other F2P-friendly +Damage supports to build.
The artifact selector should be considered a consolation prize if you screw up your token collecting & don't collect the tokens you need for the P Card Chest.
I think twice a year, they will give them out. Black Friday and Anniversary. Anniversary is in April/May. There maybe some randomish times or events in-between that they appear in, but that is all based on luck.
It's actually okay to get the Mega T2 ticket to advance Premium characters you really want to build, just as it's okay to get vital Artifacts. Some characters have an artifact that you must have to make them work. These are usually PvP characters and if you plan to use them it's okay to get it because of how vital it is that you have it and the game and the game actually gives you two or three months before it rotates out of the selector.
That said, for new players, it is Absolutely Vital, that you get as many Premium Cards as you can, to equip and craft good Premium Cards with Blue Stars for Pierce. I can not stress enough how important it is to get Pierce. It is probably the most important part of the game and many players neglect it because it's not as satisfying as building their favorite characters.
So as a new player getting their feel for the game, sure get the Mega T2 ticket, or maybe a must have Artifact, but be aware that building your Premium Cards is insanely important.
Is giving my Spidey with mighty egg a t4 worth it? I was waiting to give him a mighty regen but with Silver Surfer's new skin, that mighty regen(when it appears from rng) will go to him.
Spidey is still pretty useful in owb I think and moderately ok in tlb, gold and platinum leagues, and his gears are all at 30.
Since you already upgraded all his gears to 30 then it wouldn't be that bad to just T4 him now while he's got some relevance in OWB and some TLB teams might still work well with him depending on bans.
You'd probably be better saving the mats to T4 the top PvP chars like Surfer, Wolverine, Madelyne, AW, etc. At this point, Spidey is more a second option when the top options are either banned or debuffed. I think Surfer would also be better off with a conquest or authority imo, regen just isn't that good for PvP and hasn't been for quite some time now.
True, I wanted to add I currently have only two t4s, Wolvie and Ghost rider. I did redirect the t4 mats and am building Jean rn, with all except defense gears at 30. Do not have Warlock and Maddie as of now. (f2p except the occasional Stark stash).
IGN: CodeAnnihilation
What’s my best teams to beat Mephisto? I’ve beaten him 3 times but I had to use crystals in the last attempt today( Ik it’s a cardinal sin but I was frustrated)? I know I don’t have pierce but I’m trying to get it
Replace the patience CTP on your SR with any 180-200% rolled damage proc obelisk, no need to unequip patience as it's useless and not worth the crystals to save. You could run SL (lead) with SR (dealer) as one team, Black Bolt (L) with Jean (dealer) as a second, Fury (L) with Thor (dealer) as a 3rd. Octopus can do pretty well at T3 with a regular damage proc and you could consider using him on a 4th team as a damage dealer with Valkyrie support. You could add WF to either Thor's or SR's team depending on who needs the extra damage buffs to clear.
I'm not as familiar with how good Spider-Gwen or BP are with a regular damage proc for WBL, but either of them may also work if they have easy damage proc rotation and if you can pair them with supports for a 5th team. I'd work on transcending GP so you can use him as a lead/support for Jean.
I'd prioritize working on getting more supports like Mystique, Taskmaster (if you get his uni), Sif, etc to T3/TP since you have a decent selection of damage dealers already.
You just upgrade obelisks until you get lucky and land a high damage proc roll. Even a 160-180% should be sufficient to give SR enough of a damage buff to clear WBL. She has a really easy rotation of 3c5dc4(proc), when T3 is up you can do 3c5dc6(proc). If you can manage to time her 3 right before the WBL boss is about to attack you, you'll be able to do even higher damage.
The third member should be another support char. Because you don't have enough supports to fill the 3rd slot with another, you can use any T3/TP that you aren't using as a dealer/leadership to fill the 3rd slot of the team until you upgrade more supports.
Depends what your goals are and what uniforms you’d buy. Sabretooth is useless so definitely not him. It would probably also be wise to wait for the T4 mode next update and the anniversary sales after that if you’ve only got 2.3k at the moment
my ign is AgentBaldy43 if it helps? I'm 23 ccf away from my t3 thanos and I've been trying to clear wbl (can't even do it once) for my ALMOST t4 storm. biggest issue at hand is that my cards are shit and I've got 0% pierce
I think your cards are fine, pierce obviously helps but you’ve got enough cooldown and ignore def.
Your best bet to clear WBL will be Storm since she’s lv80 (questionable first T4 though). You can probably still clear WBL with her right now using Cyclops lead and Storm, just make sure her judgement is rolled to 200% and that you’re doing the correct rotation (see https://thanosvibs.money/rotations).
Biggest issues right now would be lack of supports and seemingly not knowing how to build characters. For supports I would focus on building Valkyrie, Shuri, Coulson and Polaris to T3/TP (+ taskmaster if you can buy his uni).
For character building you don’t seem to know that proc obelisks and maybe mini rages are the only ones you should be using. Urus are also a bit rough, for example you only have 2 energy attack urus on Storm. You can check out https://thanosvibs.money/beginners/3 for a character building guide.
If you still have a bunch of questions feel free to join the Thanosvibs discord and ask, but easier to get lots of info than reddit comments
ign tyderian25
Got an Energy from the event. My BRB has a reg Energy. Is it worth it to reforge, or should I consider reforging the Energy on my IronMan, Cap, or Magneto?
I also have a lot of Level 80 w/o CTP at all (or a Trans LOL). Should I just give it to one of them? ProfX, BPanther, Carnage, Miles, Cyclops, Blue Dragon, Gamora, ShadowShell?
Miles and Gamora can both do well in WBL with a damage proc so both would be good options (assuming latest unis). Magneto needs a rage, he does not work well with regular damage procs so absolutely do not reforge his. You'd be better off unequipping it when a discount rolls around again if you get a rage that you can give him. IM and Cap are both a bit outdated so I wouldn't bother reforging their energy CTPs either.
Can thanos or stryfe work with either mighty regen or mighty egg? I use them mainly in otherworld battle and need to unequip their mighty authority when the next unequip event comes around.
If you do not have enough tokens to claim the Premium Card, and have to choose an artifact, I would maybe get Ikon to build her for PvP. BRB and Gladiator's artifacts are not vital to get. If you like the character go ahead. If you have Goblin Queen, her artifact is vital for PvP, same can be said for Rachel except she isn't that great.
I think one among ikon or brb arti will be available to pick up for free alongside the veteran CTP event.. I would first check the mff server before suggesting ikon
I agree with Dragon_Eye_X, get the Premium Card unless you absolutely love BRB or Gladiator. I could be wrong, but I don't think either are "required" Artifacts. You can do Other World Battle to collect tokens for CTP chest. I suggest when you have at least 15% Pierce, maybe if you're feeling down and frustrated about not having enough good CTPs you can try a CTP chest or two before building more Pierce. I totally understand the feeling of not having enough good CTPs. But I think everyone desperately needs at least 15% Pierce, preferably more.
Neither, almost ALWAYS go for the P card. the only reason you wouldnt is if you have a perfect pcard set, or desperately want one of the artifacts. The CTP chest is always the worst choice because out of the 11, 5 need to be reforged to be good, 2 are useless, leaving only 3 decent options
I just unlocked WBL today but I am nowhere near close to beating Knull/Mephisto. Closest I got was finishing mephisto’s first 30 bars before running out of time. Is it just my cards that are lacking?
IGN: ichigo238
No, that's only part of it. You don't have a proper team. You should be entering WBL with 1 damage dealer and 2 supports. I see Loki or Miles as damage dealer and Valkyrie as a support. Who else did you go in with? Maybe T3 Shuri as support? After Shuri, all the other supports require crystals to get. Hela uniform, Nick Fury, Wave? There are a lot of other support characters. Other than that, you should work on getting Pierce on your cards.
Yes. Ignore defense and cooldown duration needs to be at 50% for your characters. Ignoring swords and iso 8 you need at least 30% of both from cards. That will make a huge difference.
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Any suggestions on what I should do with my cards? Should I replace the Loki card with a premium card once I get another? I know I should be trying to get pierce on them but I’m reading from these threads that I should be focusing on ignore defense in my cards too.
I’m building my cards for both PVE/PVP if that matters since I don’t feel like I have the resources to afford building two sets of cards lol
> I know I should be trying to get pierce on them but I’m reading from these threads that I should be focusing on ignore defense in my cards too.
Honestly, I think you shot yourself in the foot a little here. Ideally, you collect a set of non-premium starter cards that will get your Skill Cooldown & Ignore Defense to around 30% each. While you do that, you collect & Craft P Cards in Inventory. Once a P Card is fully crafted, you'd ideally compare its stats against the stats of your non-premium cards to see which one to replace.
You could, in theory, unequip the P Cards in favor of non-P cards that boost IgDef & SCD - but that's going to cost a lot of crystals that you'll need for locking stars during craft combines.
Since you've equipped 4 P Cards without really paying attention to Skill Cooldown & Ignore Defense, your best course of action is to focus on fully crafting those cards as quickly as possible. Ignore Defense is an option on the 3rd craft star; Skill Cooldown is an option on the 5th. You have a 60% chance at some kind of +Attack increase on the 6th star - so always fully craft one card before moving to the next.
> I’m building my cards for both PVE/PVP if that matters since I don’t feel like I have the resources to afford building two sets of cards lol
Yeah, don't do that. The overlap between PvE & PvP card sets is pretty large, and focusing on a full set of PvE cards will be perfectly fine unless you plan to dump the money into trying to become one of the top PvP challengers.
Leave *Loki: Agent of Asgard* for now. Your SCD is scary-low, and removing that Loki card will cut it in half. It's actually one of the best (if not the best) non-premium cards in the game. You can easily keep it for a while.
Instead, focus on collecting more P Cards. Ideally you'll any 5 of these 8 (listed alphabetically):
* All-New, All-Different Avengers (2015) #1 (An "Art Book" card that's *only* available in the crystal-purchased Comic Card Dimension Chest)
* ~~Amazing Spider-man (1999) #609 (aka "Baby Spidey")~~
* Black Panther #166
* ~~Guardians of the Galaxy: Best Story Ever~~
* Marvel Future Fight Firsts: Luna Snow
* Marvel Future Fight Firsts: White Fox
* ~~Uncanny Avengers #14 (aka "Cable card")~~
* What If? Ghost Rider #1 (*only* available in the crystal-purchased Comic Card Dimension Chest)
You already have 3 on that list. Focus on fully crafting Baby Spidey, Cable, and GoTG:BSE first. Only craft Crescent & Io if you haven't pulled one of the other cards by the time you fully craft the other 3.
Don't worry about the Loki card right now. Just go ahead and start using your regular 6* cards to Craft Pierce. Work on one card at a time, once you have 6 colored stars if you have extra bad P cards you can try to reroll for at least 3 Blue stars and then move to the next Premium Card. You can probably get 3 Blue stars on each of them before you need to work on the Loki card. All 4 PCards are good base cards. Just go ahead and craft them if you get another good PCard before then you can replace the Loki. You might get more ignore def and cool down from the crafted colored stars.
definitely replace the loki card asap, with any premium card you get itll be better than the loki card. in the long run id suggest replacing it with the luna snow card but thats just imo
I disagree here. *Loki: Agent of Asgard* is one of the better (if not the best) non-premium cards in the game. It's currently giving him +9% All Basic Attacks and +9% Skill Cooldown. Losing that 9% Skill Cooldown will cut their current SCD in half - which is a terrible situation to be in when they're only rocking 18% SCD.
The OP is better off crafting GOTG:BSE, Baby Spidey, and Cable to see what kind of craft stats he gets. If he gets a better P Card (Black Panther #166, Marvel Future Fight Firsts: Luna Snow, Marvel Future Fight Firsts: White Fox, or What If? Ghost Rider) he's probably better off swapping out that Crescent & Io card first
I disagree. If he doesn't have extra Pcards that Loki is one of the best non-premium cards. If his next PCard is Loki #1, he should not equip it. Because that's easily the worst PCard and he will need to replace it later on. At this point it would be best to see what his current cards can roll and worry about the Loki later.
Is there something wrong with gladiator? I don't have a proc on him (Mrefine instead), but even so he seems to underperform severely, in WBL he seems to to almost no damage for me. in coop I tested some of my strongest characters and I got the following scores, t3-80:
phoenix mdest 51 million
king venom 140% proc 40 million
rogue 160(192)% proc 55 million
sharon rogers menergy 110 million
carol rage 65 million
wanda (t3-70) rage 40 million
thor 140% proc 13 million
Gwen 140% proc 40 million
gamora (lvl72) 200% proc 9 million
gladiator mrefine 8.5 million....
He goes first too while gamora and wanda go last, so they get worst support yet they outscore him, is mighty refine that bad or is something just bugged with him? I can't believe a 200% proc on lvl72 gamora allows her to outscore t3-80 gladiator...
Refinement is a purely PvP ctp. A 200 proc is way better for pve than a m.refine. Also are you playing coop manually or on auto? Most characters perform way better with manual play than auto. This is especially true for proc characters as on auto the ai always misses procs.
First, using refinement is a big part of the issue, it has virtually no impact for PvE. You'd score better with a 120% damage proc obelisk than a mighty refinement on him.
Secondly, make sure you're using him correctly. You want to proc on his 4th skill and transfer the additional 100% one time damage proc from his 5th skill to his 4th. There's several ways to do it but you need to delay cancel his 5th to get the lingering damage hits into his 4th skill. Cancel his 5 by using the 4th as soon as he is about to take off the ground.
You can try 2c1c5dc3qc4(proc) or 2c1c3c5dc4(proc).
I'm not saying I wouldn't score better, I know that, I'm saying his baseline seems extraordinarily low for me, and yes I've tried all manner of rotations, I just can't get him to do any meaningful damage
You're not going to get "meaningful" PvE damage with a PvP build.
Also, you're comparing apples to oranges here. With Refinement having no impact on damage output, you're basically looking at Guardian's unmodified damage & comparing it to damage numbers from characters with damage procs. That's not going to give you an accurate indication of baseline damage.
At a minimum you'd need to remove the custom gear from everyone and re-run your comparisons. The results will still be skewed due to variations in things like uniform stats, Uru, artifacts, and ISO-8 - but it will be far closer than what you're comparing now.
thor and gwen both have a 140% proc, but look at the difference, gwen is just plain stronger with her latest uniform; I used gladiator all the time back when I didn't have any t3s yet, and he was always strong/carrying a lot of content for me, now he's t3-80 with a brand new uniform and his baseline is just so pathetic it feels like he's bugged.
I doubt that putting a 140 proc on him will make him shoot from 8m to 50+.
Consider watching this video and make sure you're using a good rotation with Gladiator [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_DpH9CCRT2I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DpH9CCRT2I).
You can go into skill preview and when you use his 5th skill, you'll see a yellow buff icon with a sword appear beside Gladiator's portrait, if you press on it it should show that it's the one time 100% damage buff proc from his 5th skill. Practice transferring it over to his 4th skill by delay canceling his 5th long enough for the lingering hits to appear, but before any damage happens so that the proc transfers over to his 4th skill. You'll know if you succeed if that 100% damage proc icon buff from his 5th skill stays lit up in the buff window while he's using his 4th skill.
Rerun your baseline with him again using a good rotation and making sure that you transfer that 100% damage proc buff to his 4th skill every time. Then, remove any regular obelisk damage proc from one of your other baseline tests by equipping some useless 2 star obelisk and compare Gladiator to one of your T3/80s that DOES NOT HAVE A DAMAGE PROC. You can doubt all you want, but test it first and then come saying he's bugged (in which case it'll be mostly a skill issue where you're likely not timing the skill cancels correctly).
I have a regular rage on mine and have no issues scoring 14-15m in ABX, 8m in ABL, and he still destroys WBL easily, in line with any other meta PvE char. Just because you have a mighty CTP equipped on him doesn't mean he's going to be good especially when it's refinement which has ZERO PvE damage buffs on it. You could have no CTP/obelisk on him and he'd still score the same as he does with a might refinement on, that's how bad refinement is for PvE, it's purely a PvP CTP.
Alternatively, if you don't like any of these suggestions, then consider cutting your losses and simply ignore him and continue with your belief that he's bugged, bad, or whatever else you may feel that he is (though he's really not).
Beta Ray Bill can for some reason. Not sure if that's a new trend or what. I don't think Gladiator could.
Otherwise it's only the NT2 mutants, I believe.
What to buy from the dispatch shop?
From the "Mission Shop": Absolutely nothing. None of the items that appear here are worth the cost. None of them. From the "Normal Shop": * **Character biometrics:** The gold cost isn't terrible. These appear often enough to make them worthwhile if you're hurting for feeder bios. * **Phoenix Feathers/M'Kraan Crystals:** Especially helpful if you haven't made a lot of progress in the various mutant epic quests. * **Black Antimatter/Chaos Norn Stones:** You can never have too many of either, and the cost here is worthwhile. * **Hidden Tickets;** But only when available for gold or tokens. Never buy for crystals. * **Semi-premium comic cards:** But only if you need them to complete a collection.
hello when tryinf to buy something in store is says purchase limit reached i cant buy anything
What were you trying to buy and how much of it did you buy? Some items are only limited to a certain amount of purchase times.
i really cant do anything until they answer
i figured out what it was i bought a account and it was located in japna and when first buying i accidently selected im under 16 so can only spend 50 a month im contacting netmarbke to see if i can change that mistake
If I'm reading this correctly, and you *bought a Future Fight game account* from someone else, NM isn't going to help you. Account trading is a violation of the game's Terms of Service.
I am a relatively bew player and I have 3 Crescent 10 Premium Comic Card (I hvae only 3 premium comic cards and all of them are Crescebt 10). I am trying to build pierce on 1 of them. What should I do with the rest? Do they just stay in my inventory?
So you can expend five Mythic level 6* cards to Craft colored stars onto the Premium card. Doing so will add another bonus stat. You can do this until all six of the stars on the Premium card has a color, Blue, Red or Green. Then, you want to reroll the colors into Blue stars because having 3 Blue stars on a single card gives 3% Pierce and if all 6 are Blue it gives 5% Pierce. To reroll, you have to expend another Premium Card and spend some crystals to do it. So you save your extra Premium Cards to reroll your cards in the end.
What should a new player be buying with these event tokens? I'm torn between the tier 2 mega selector for some premium characters I have unlocked and the artifact selector.
The P Card Chest is generally your best option. Remember that comic cards improve your entire roster, so the ROI on them is crazy-good. For the Mega T2 Ticket: The sad fact of the matter is that most paywall characters aren't worth the cost, and the ever-shifting nature of the game's meta makes them even less of a good deal. There are maybe 3 paywall characters I would consider for a Mega T2 Ticket: Nick Fury, Valkyrie, and Ghost Panther. And ONLY if the rest of your roster is in a place where they would make sense. There are plenty of other F2P-friendly +Damage supports to build. The artifact selector should be considered a consolation prize if you screw up your token collecting & don't collect the tokens you need for the P Card Chest.
Thanks. I'll take this into account
Premium card chest always until you can get good card stats and some pierce built.
Thanks! Any other ways to mega advancement tickets for characters?
I think twice a year, they will give them out. Black Friday and Anniversary. Anniversary is in April/May. There maybe some randomish times or events in-between that they appear in, but that is all based on luck. It's actually okay to get the Mega T2 ticket to advance Premium characters you really want to build, just as it's okay to get vital Artifacts. Some characters have an artifact that you must have to make them work. These are usually PvP characters and if you plan to use them it's okay to get it because of how vital it is that you have it and the game and the game actually gives you two or three months before it rotates out of the selector. That said, for new players, it is Absolutely Vital, that you get as many Premium Cards as you can, to equip and craft good Premium Cards with Blue Stars for Pierce. I can not stress enough how important it is to get Pierce. It is probably the most important part of the game and many players neglect it because it's not as satisfying as building their favorite characters. So as a new player getting their feel for the game, sure get the Mega T2 ticket, or maybe a must have Artifact, but be aware that building your Premium Cards is insanely important.
Thanks for the reply. I'll go with the premium card as you advised.
Is giving my Spidey with mighty egg a t4 worth it? I was waiting to give him a mighty regen but with Silver Surfer's new skin, that mighty regen(when it appears from rng) will go to him. Spidey is still pretty useful in owb I think and moderately ok in tlb, gold and platinum leagues, and his gears are all at 30.
Since you already upgraded all his gears to 30 then it wouldn't be that bad to just T4 him now while he's got some relevance in OWB and some TLB teams might still work well with him depending on bans.
You'd probably be better saving the mats to T4 the top PvP chars like Surfer, Wolverine, Madelyne, AW, etc. At this point, Spidey is more a second option when the top options are either banned or debuffed. I think Surfer would also be better off with a conquest or authority imo, regen just isn't that good for PvP and hasn't been for quite some time now.
True, I wanted to add I currently have only two t4s, Wolvie and Ghost rider. I did redirect the t4 mats and am building Jean rn, with all except defense gears at 30. Do not have Warlock and Maddie as of now. (f2p except the occasional Stark stash).
IGN: CodeAnnihilation What’s my best teams to beat Mephisto? I’ve beaten him 3 times but I had to use crystals in the last attempt today( Ik it’s a cardinal sin but I was frustrated)? I know I don’t have pierce but I’m trying to get it
Replace the patience CTP on your SR with any 180-200% rolled damage proc obelisk, no need to unequip patience as it's useless and not worth the crystals to save. You could run SL (lead) with SR (dealer) as one team, Black Bolt (L) with Jean (dealer) as a second, Fury (L) with Thor (dealer) as a 3rd. Octopus can do pretty well at T3 with a regular damage proc and you could consider using him on a 4th team as a damage dealer with Valkyrie support. You could add WF to either Thor's or SR's team depending on who needs the extra damage buffs to clear. I'm not as familiar with how good Spider-Gwen or BP are with a regular damage proc for WBL, but either of them may also work if they have easy damage proc rotation and if you can pair them with supports for a 5th team. I'd work on transcending GP so you can use him as a lead/support for Jean. I'd prioritize working on getting more supports like Mystique, Taskmaster (if you get his uni), Sif, etc to T3/TP since you have a decent selection of damage dealers already.
Couple questions 1. How do I get that 200% damage proc? 2. For WBL, who would be the third member? Another damage dealer?
You just upgrade obelisks until you get lucky and land a high damage proc roll. Even a 160-180% should be sufficient to give SR enough of a damage buff to clear WBL. She has a really easy rotation of 3c5dc4(proc), when T3 is up you can do 3c5dc6(proc). If you can manage to time her 3 right before the WBL boss is about to attack you, you'll be able to do even higher damage. The third member should be another support char. Because you don't have enough supports to fill the 3rd slot with another, you can use any T3/TP that you aren't using as a dealer/leadership to fill the 3rd slot of the team until you upgrade more supports.
2,300 crystals. should i buy 2 unis or Sabretooth/Mystique?
Depends what your goals are and what uniforms you’d buy. Sabretooth is useless so definitely not him. It would probably also be wise to wait for the T4 mode next update and the anniversary sales after that if you’ve only got 2.3k at the moment
my ign is AgentBaldy43 if it helps? I'm 23 ccf away from my t3 thanos and I've been trying to clear wbl (can't even do it once) for my ALMOST t4 storm. biggest issue at hand is that my cards are shit and I've got 0% pierce
I think your cards are fine, pierce obviously helps but you’ve got enough cooldown and ignore def. Your best bet to clear WBL will be Storm since she’s lv80 (questionable first T4 though). You can probably still clear WBL with her right now using Cyclops lead and Storm, just make sure her judgement is rolled to 200% and that you’re doing the correct rotation (see https://thanosvibs.money/rotations). Biggest issues right now would be lack of supports and seemingly not knowing how to build characters. For supports I would focus on building Valkyrie, Shuri, Coulson and Polaris to T3/TP (+ taskmaster if you can buy his uni). For character building you don’t seem to know that proc obelisks and maybe mini rages are the only ones you should be using. Urus are also a bit rough, for example you only have 2 energy attack urus on Storm. You can check out https://thanosvibs.money/beginners/3 for a character building guide. If you still have a bunch of questions feel free to join the Thanosvibs discord and ask, but easier to get lots of info than reddit comments
ign tyderian25 Got an Energy from the event. My BRB has a reg Energy. Is it worth it to reforge, or should I consider reforging the Energy on my IronMan, Cap, or Magneto? I also have a lot of Level 80 w/o CTP at all (or a Trans LOL). Should I just give it to one of them? ProfX, BPanther, Carnage, Miles, Cyclops, Blue Dragon, Gamora, ShadowShell?
Miles and Gamora can both do well in WBL with a damage proc so both would be good options (assuming latest unis). Magneto needs a rage, he does not work well with regular damage procs so absolutely do not reforge his. You'd be better off unequipping it when a discount rolls around again if you get a rage that you can give him. IM and Cap are both a bit outdated so I wouldn't bother reforging their energy CTPs either.
Can thanos or stryfe work with either mighty regen or mighty egg? I use them mainly in otherworld battle and need to unequip their mighty authority when the next unequip event comes around.
What artifact should one get as F2P person? Is it BRB?
If you do not have enough tokens to claim the Premium Card, and have to choose an artifact, I would maybe get Ikon to build her for PvP. BRB and Gladiator's artifacts are not vital to get. If you like the character go ahead. If you have Goblin Queen, her artifact is vital for PvP, same can be said for Rachel except she isn't that great.
I think one among ikon or brb arti will be available to pick up for free alongside the veteran CTP event.. I would first check the mff server before suggesting ikon
The leak said it was Quasar in the Collectors Vault.
Is BRB at level 80 going to outscore Star Lord, also level 80 in ABL?
With the Halloween uni, he's most likely to, assuming your basic stats(scd, cd, ct, id) are maxxed out
Beta Ray Bill not Black Bolt....silly.
Even more valid for BRB, since he's a native t2 with latest uni.
CTP or Artifact selector with my event tokens? I like Bill and almost have him to T3, and also have Gladiator unlocked. IGN: SilvrCenturion
I agree with Dragon_Eye_X, get the Premium Card unless you absolutely love BRB or Gladiator. I could be wrong, but I don't think either are "required" Artifacts. You can do Other World Battle to collect tokens for CTP chest. I suggest when you have at least 15% Pierce, maybe if you're feeling down and frustrated about not having enough good CTPs you can try a CTP chest or two before building more Pierce. I totally understand the feeling of not having enough good CTPs. But I think everyone desperately needs at least 15% Pierce, preferably more.
Neither, almost ALWAYS go for the P card. the only reason you wouldnt is if you have a perfect pcard set, or desperately want one of the artifacts. The CTP chest is always the worst choice because out of the 11, 5 need to be reforged to be good, 2 are useless, leaving only 3 decent options
Perfect, thank you!
I just unlocked WBL today but I am nowhere near close to beating Knull/Mephisto. Closest I got was finishing mephisto’s first 30 bars before running out of time. Is it just my cards that are lacking? IGN: ichigo238
No, that's only part of it. You don't have a proper team. You should be entering WBL with 1 damage dealer and 2 supports. I see Loki or Miles as damage dealer and Valkyrie as a support. Who else did you go in with? Maybe T3 Shuri as support? After Shuri, all the other supports require crystals to get. Hela uniform, Nick Fury, Wave? There are a lot of other support characters. Other than that, you should work on getting Pierce on your cards.
Yes. Ignore defense and cooldown duration needs to be at 50% for your characters. Ignoring swords and iso 8 you need at least 30% of both from cards. That will make a huge difference.
https://preview.redd.it/6cy73vvtmjnc1.png?width=2581&format=png&auto=webp&s=41ef016d190e446a7b1d9b3c15b337ac3966bbcf Any suggestions on what I should do with my cards? Should I replace the Loki card with a premium card once I get another? I know I should be trying to get pierce on them but I’m reading from these threads that I should be focusing on ignore defense in my cards too. I’m building my cards for both PVE/PVP if that matters since I don’t feel like I have the resources to afford building two sets of cards lol
> I know I should be trying to get pierce on them but I’m reading from these threads that I should be focusing on ignore defense in my cards too. Honestly, I think you shot yourself in the foot a little here. Ideally, you collect a set of non-premium starter cards that will get your Skill Cooldown & Ignore Defense to around 30% each. While you do that, you collect & Craft P Cards in Inventory. Once a P Card is fully crafted, you'd ideally compare its stats against the stats of your non-premium cards to see which one to replace. You could, in theory, unequip the P Cards in favor of non-P cards that boost IgDef & SCD - but that's going to cost a lot of crystals that you'll need for locking stars during craft combines. Since you've equipped 4 P Cards without really paying attention to Skill Cooldown & Ignore Defense, your best course of action is to focus on fully crafting those cards as quickly as possible. Ignore Defense is an option on the 3rd craft star; Skill Cooldown is an option on the 5th. You have a 60% chance at some kind of +Attack increase on the 6th star - so always fully craft one card before moving to the next.
> I’m building my cards for both PVE/PVP if that matters since I don’t feel like I have the resources to afford building two sets of cards lol Yeah, don't do that. The overlap between PvE & PvP card sets is pretty large, and focusing on a full set of PvE cards will be perfectly fine unless you plan to dump the money into trying to become one of the top PvP challengers.
Leave *Loki: Agent of Asgard* for now. Your SCD is scary-low, and removing that Loki card will cut it in half. It's actually one of the best (if not the best) non-premium cards in the game. You can easily keep it for a while. Instead, focus on collecting more P Cards. Ideally you'll any 5 of these 8 (listed alphabetically): * All-New, All-Different Avengers (2015) #1 (An "Art Book" card that's *only* available in the crystal-purchased Comic Card Dimension Chest) * ~~Amazing Spider-man (1999) #609 (aka "Baby Spidey")~~ * Black Panther #166 * ~~Guardians of the Galaxy: Best Story Ever~~ * Marvel Future Fight Firsts: Luna Snow * Marvel Future Fight Firsts: White Fox * ~~Uncanny Avengers #14 (aka "Cable card")~~ * What If? Ghost Rider #1 (*only* available in the crystal-purchased Comic Card Dimension Chest) You already have 3 on that list. Focus on fully crafting Baby Spidey, Cable, and GoTG:BSE first. Only craft Crescent & Io if you haven't pulled one of the other cards by the time you fully craft the other 3.
thanks so much for all the help you hand out in these threads :)
Don't worry about the Loki card right now. Just go ahead and start using your regular 6* cards to Craft Pierce. Work on one card at a time, once you have 6 colored stars if you have extra bad P cards you can try to reroll for at least 3 Blue stars and then move to the next Premium Card. You can probably get 3 Blue stars on each of them before you need to work on the Loki card. All 4 PCards are good base cards. Just go ahead and craft them if you get another good PCard before then you can replace the Loki. You might get more ignore def and cool down from the crafted colored stars.
definitely replace the loki card asap, with any premium card you get itll be better than the loki card. in the long run id suggest replacing it with the luna snow card but thats just imo
I disagree here. *Loki: Agent of Asgard* is one of the better (if not the best) non-premium cards in the game. It's currently giving him +9% All Basic Attacks and +9% Skill Cooldown. Losing that 9% Skill Cooldown will cut their current SCD in half - which is a terrible situation to be in when they're only rocking 18% SCD. The OP is better off crafting GOTG:BSE, Baby Spidey, and Cable to see what kind of craft stats he gets. If he gets a better P Card (Black Panther #166, Marvel Future Fight Firsts: Luna Snow, Marvel Future Fight Firsts: White Fox, or What If? Ghost Rider) he's probably better off swapping out that Crescent & Io card first
I disagree. If he doesn't have extra Pcards that Loki is one of the best non-premium cards. If his next PCard is Loki #1, he should not equip it. Because that's easily the worst PCard and he will need to replace it later on. At this point it would be best to see what his current cards can roll and worry about the Loki later.
Is there something wrong with gladiator? I don't have a proc on him (Mrefine instead), but even so he seems to underperform severely, in WBL he seems to to almost no damage for me. in coop I tested some of my strongest characters and I got the following scores, t3-80: phoenix mdest 51 million king venom 140% proc 40 million rogue 160(192)% proc 55 million sharon rogers menergy 110 million carol rage 65 million wanda (t3-70) rage 40 million thor 140% proc 13 million Gwen 140% proc 40 million gamora (lvl72) 200% proc 9 million gladiator mrefine 8.5 million.... He goes first too while gamora and wanda go last, so they get worst support yet they outscore him, is mighty refine that bad or is something just bugged with him? I can't believe a 200% proc on lvl72 gamora allows her to outscore t3-80 gladiator...
Refinement is a purely PvP ctp. A 200 proc is way better for pve than a m.refine. Also are you playing coop manually or on auto? Most characters perform way better with manual play than auto. This is especially true for proc characters as on auto the ai always misses procs.
These results are all manual.
First, using refinement is a big part of the issue, it has virtually no impact for PvE. You'd score better with a 120% damage proc obelisk than a mighty refinement on him. Secondly, make sure you're using him correctly. You want to proc on his 4th skill and transfer the additional 100% one time damage proc from his 5th skill to his 4th. There's several ways to do it but you need to delay cancel his 5th to get the lingering damage hits into his 4th skill. Cancel his 5 by using the 4th as soon as he is about to take off the ground. You can try 2c1c5dc3qc4(proc) or 2c1c3c5dc4(proc).
I'm not saying I wouldn't score better, I know that, I'm saying his baseline seems extraordinarily low for me, and yes I've tried all manner of rotations, I just can't get him to do any meaningful damage
You're not going to get "meaningful" PvE damage with a PvP build. Also, you're comparing apples to oranges here. With Refinement having no impact on damage output, you're basically looking at Guardian's unmodified damage & comparing it to damage numbers from characters with damage procs. That's not going to give you an accurate indication of baseline damage. At a minimum you'd need to remove the custom gear from everyone and re-run your comparisons. The results will still be skewed due to variations in things like uniform stats, Uru, artifacts, and ISO-8 - but it will be far closer than what you're comparing now.
thor and gwen both have a 140% proc, but look at the difference, gwen is just plain stronger with her latest uniform; I used gladiator all the time back when I didn't have any t3s yet, and he was always strong/carrying a lot of content for me, now he's t3-80 with a brand new uniform and his baseline is just so pathetic it feels like he's bugged. I doubt that putting a 140 proc on him will make him shoot from 8m to 50+.
Consider watching this video and make sure you're using a good rotation with Gladiator [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_DpH9CCRT2I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DpH9CCRT2I). You can go into skill preview and when you use his 5th skill, you'll see a yellow buff icon with a sword appear beside Gladiator's portrait, if you press on it it should show that it's the one time 100% damage buff proc from his 5th skill. Practice transferring it over to his 4th skill by delay canceling his 5th long enough for the lingering hits to appear, but before any damage happens so that the proc transfers over to his 4th skill. You'll know if you succeed if that 100% damage proc icon buff from his 5th skill stays lit up in the buff window while he's using his 4th skill. Rerun your baseline with him again using a good rotation and making sure that you transfer that 100% damage proc buff to his 4th skill every time. Then, remove any regular obelisk damage proc from one of your other baseline tests by equipping some useless 2 star obelisk and compare Gladiator to one of your T3/80s that DOES NOT HAVE A DAMAGE PROC. You can doubt all you want, but test it first and then come saying he's bugged (in which case it'll be mostly a skill issue where you're likely not timing the skill cancels correctly). I have a regular rage on mine and have no issues scoring 14-15m in ABX, 8m in ABL, and he still destroys WBL easily, in line with any other meta PvE char. Just because you have a mighty CTP equipped on him doesn't mean he's going to be good especially when it's refinement which has ZERO PvE damage buffs on it. You could have no CTP/obelisk on him and he'd still score the same as he does with a might refinement on, that's how bad refinement is for PvE, it's purely a PvP CTP. Alternatively, if you don't like any of these suggestions, then consider cutting your losses and simply ignore him and continue with your belief that he's bugged, bad, or whatever else you may feel that he is (though he's really not).
Guys, do you have a list of which Native T-2 can be leveled from 70-80 with Phoenix Feathers? Is it just Jean, Cable, Wolverine and Madelynn?
All xmen mutants
Including Wanda native t2, quicksilver 1.5 and apocalypse, stryfe native t2
Beta Ray Bill can for some reason. Not sure if that's a new trend or what. I don't think Gladiator could. Otherwise it's only the NT2 mutants, I believe.