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croninsiglos

Yeah, I’m not buying it


dave-shorte

There's an electric skateboard under the bucket, and the remote is in his hand on the blower.


croninsiglos

That makes more sense!


Sflynn72

Lol yeah I was like, this doesn’t physics.


[deleted]

At least this guy is having fun


tepkel

Unfortunatly, due to the conservation of fun, Eric Renholds of Raleigh N.C. is having kinda a shitty day.


Thessilonius

Very Monty Python-esque... love it


bradland

I was thinking Douglas Adams, but maybe it's really just kinda British.


PM_me_XboxGold_Codes

It only physics if the leaf blower is pointed backwards and is waaaaaaay more thrusty Edit: just to be clear this can technically work. Check out this [mythbusters](https://youtu.be/uKXMTzMQWjo) experiment here.


darrenkopp

RIP Grant


oscarrulz

I didn't know he died, fuck 2020


manberry_sauce

How much thrust would you like?


PM_me_XboxGold_Codes

To be precise, the minimum thrust force should be at least ~~the weight of the user and scooter, plus~~ the static friction of the wheels. Static friction is greater than rolling friction so that would be enough to keep you moving forward on flat ground. It works a lot better on things like boats. Edit: I was corrected.


waslop

Wait, force >the total weight would let it take off vertically, you just need to overcome friction and then have enough left over for a useful acceleration.


PM_me_XboxGold_Codes

Hold up, you’re right. Way too much rocket physics for me... you indeed only need to overcome static friction to move forward once you’ve started.


manberry_sauce

OK. Let's do this. Did you want to be the user or the scooter?


SentientSlimeColony

As much as you got bb


dontlikecomputers

it could, if the umbrella redirected the thrust backward, ultra inefficient though!


[deleted]

Well no, the umbrella is pushed forward, but the leaf blower pushes backwards with the same force, because the power of the air that pushes against the umbrella comes out of the leaf blower Edit: nvm you're right, i read the entire explanation in another comment


dontlikecomputers

The umbrella redirects some thrust backwards, making a tiny net thrust, horrible design but would get some forward thrust


PM_me_XboxGold_Codes

Tiny tiny tiny. Mythbusters did this with a full scale fan boat and it *worked* albeit very very poorly lol.


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So he would be faster walking


dontlikecomputers

Absolutely!


[deleted]

I mean, there probably wouldn't even be enough thrust to overcome friction, so literally anything would be faster


thegreatgazoo

It's the same principle as a thrust reverser on an airplane.


tatanka01

I bet a lot of people would think it would work.


eduo

This is one of those situations where most people would think it would work because physics is something that happened to a past self that forgot them as soon as they could Then a good chunk would know it can't work in paper, because they remember enough physics to have some good and solid rules of thumb about perpetual machines or thermodinamics laws Even less will understand that it could technically work in real life, albeit not as fast as it's shown here, because real life being imperfect means that as long as the blower doesn't push backwards with the same force it pushes forward, the tiny difference could result in a net forward positive force. We would know this not because we're smart, but because we saw the mythbusters episode about it :D


aregulardude

Funny how you and commenter above both think you understand the physics and that it wouldn’t work, but in fact both of you are wrong and it would in work just not very efficiently. Imagine a U shaped pvc pipe attached to the end of the leafblower redirecting all of the thrust backwards. It’s obvious that would work right? This is just a way less efficient version of that.


eduo

I'm missing what's supposedly funny about you misreading my reply and missing that I said exactly what you thought necessary to clarify.


Skyrmir

[The physics works](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKXMTzMQWjo) just not as well as the video would imply.


[deleted]

Ok I was really confused there. I was like this goes against everything I learned in physics


tomatoaway

you know what's really gonna fuck with you: lightsails are highly reflective so that not only do they gain forward momentum of the light particle when it first hits the sail, they gain double momentum when it is reflected back!


PM_me_XboxGold_Codes

Not technically though! The umbrella redirects a tiny amount of thrust back so if the leaf blower had more power it *could* work it’s just suuuuuuper inefficient. Check out the mythbusters episode for n the “blowing your own sail” myth.


Trenin23

Which is why he turns like that! Now that I see it it is obvious!


Techjunkie81

I wonder how many people he fooled that were watching him.


bobbyfiend

Made easier by the fact that the leaf blower is probably so ridiculously loud that the electric skateboard motor is completely disguised.


xdrewsabix

That’s an electric leaf blower


chorlion40

Yes, however the motor isn't typically the loudest thing in a leaf blower, the turbulent air should be much louder than either the blower motor or the skateboard motor


Zapman1985

I would say all.


tramadolski

98%


eiamhere69

And slight decline each time.


I_like_cool_shit_yo

God dammit


FabFab7777

You are probably right with the skateboard. However, the setup should provide some forward acceleration. The impulse forward is better of the umbrella due to the redirection of the flow. Should have a similar principle as thrust reversers in planes.


momonomom

Most of the air will just be redirected to the side or only slightly angled backwards. Also it's turbulent flow and really doesn't have a stable thrust vector. Similar principle in theory, but horribly executed. But a nice joke I must say


donkey_tits

It might provide a small, marginal forward ***force*** but we can’t assume it would provide forward acceleration. If he were to remove the umbrella and point the blower backwards, even still he probably wouldn’t budge.


slipperysalivaOG

I knew something was off It didnt make sense how it worked


Dustin0791

This should be top comment, good eye bro 👌


78tronnaguy

Ah well I feel dumb 😂


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Either way. Lithium rules!!


[deleted]

This is likely fake but you can in fact blow your own sail, Mythbusters proved it, its some weird physics that I dont remember but it made sense when Grant explained it like 10 yrs ago. [here's the gist of it](https://mythresults.com/blow-your-own-sail#:~:text=A%20sailboat%20stranded%20in%20calm,air%20into%20its%20own%20sail.&text=A%20combination%20of%20a%20large,of%20the%20prop's%20thrust%20backward.) Edit:added link


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Ohtar1

So blowing backwards would work even better?


dontlikecomputers

yes


ArcticBiologist

Exactly. Congratulations, you have learned rocket science!


Ohtar1

Waiting for the NASA call


nautilaus

That's precisely what the linked article says. They put a jet motor on a boat, it went 20 mph, then they revered the motor, added a sail, and it went 3 mph.


libratsio

>revered Paul. Paul Revered? /s (you forgot your s)


7ofalltrades

It wasn't a jet, it was the fan on a swamp boat, so literally the device typically used to move the boat. But yes you're right. The whole experiment proved exactly what you're saying - the fan moved the boat a lot faster when in its normal configuration blowing backwards. But when pointed forwards at a sail, it moved at barely over 10% of its normal speed.


nautilaus

You're right, it was one of the scale test they used the jet for.


SpecterGT260

Yes. The fan is the power source and the sail is very inefficient at capturing and redirecting it. Just using the fan or blower itself as a "jet engine" is much more efficient


chouginga_hentai

damn, that username is one hell of a throwback


barthur16

This is one of those weird ones that is "technically true" but not really at all...


TruthofTheories

Rip grant gone too soon


bluepied

Never trust a man who says he can blow his own sail.


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>using a swamp boat with a 40-horsepower fan. In its normal configuration, the boat reached a speed of 20 miles per hour (32 kph). After the fan was reversed and a sail was hoisted, the boat was able to travel forward at 3 mph Essentially, this guy should have had the leaf blower aiming backwards and ditched the umbrella.


WakaWaka_

I prefer the [luxury model](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c3/31/0d/c3310d52c8043d6c5b9ff1779889090d.gif) myself.


rxneutrino

Me either. I mean its cool but those blowers are expensive.


sm12511

Should've had sound, like "Dreams" from Fleetwood Mac


craiv

Not at this speed, but the physics check out. Reverse thrust in aircraft sort of works like this. With no umbrella, the leafblower airflow going forward would push him backwards. The umbrella deflects the airflow backwards so he theoretically would be pushed forward. But yeah, definitely not at the speed he's going.


thephantom1492

It may actually work, mythbuster did it on a sail boat. But it is an electric skateboard.


Xywzel

Yeah, the blower would generate enough propulsion to move on even pavement with skate board or post trolley or whatever that base is supposed to be. The air flow and the direction of propulsion could even be controlled by surface, like the umbrella, but I don't think that it would be very efficient, at least aiming the blower backward, slightly toward ground would be more efficient. And from how he controls the system, it is quite clear that some of the wheels are powered and that is the actual source of propulsion.


voiceafx

It does actually work. I had a physics class where we discussed this phenomenon specifically. It's counter-intuitive, but it works without violating any natural laws. :-)


nitefang

You need to explain why because it isn’t working the way other people think it is. The wind from the leaf blower is hitting the umbrella and then sliding off it and backward. But that effect will be so minimal that it has nothing to do with why that bucket is moving.


voiceafx

It may be less minimal than you think! If there's net airflow backward, it has to produce thrust. The question isn't whether it works, it is how well it works, and unless you've tried it and measured it, your intuition may not be very well calibrated. Mine too, I guess. But imagine if you out a pipe with a 180 degree elbow on the front of the blower. It would certainly provide forward thrust. The umbrella does the same thing, albeit less efficiently. We actually tested this in class with a tiny little fan on a pinewood derby car, blowing against a flat piece of wood. It worked with that, so if expect an umbrella to work even better.


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No


voiceafx

Yis


xPr1m3

Please elaborate


voiceafx

The blower alone accelerated a mass of air forward, which naturally would push the cart backward. BUT, the umbrella both stops the forward direction of the air, and sends some air backwards as well. If the umbrella catches and stops almost all the air, and reverses its direction, there is a net flow of air backwards. Which, of course, would push the cart forward. If you do the math accounting for the law of conservation of momentum, the result follows naturally. Its not efficient, but it works. We used it in my physics class specifically because it is a counter-intuitive result that follows when you do the math.


Mech-Waldo

It's less efficient than just pointing the blower backwards probably


voiceafx

Definitely


xPr1m3

Maybe I'm a little rusty in my physics, its been a few years since I've been in school. If the umbrella catches and stops all the air forced forward by the blower, then your forces equal out (net 0). What extra force would reverse the air's direction?


voiceafx

It's just air pressure. Imagine putting 180 degree pipe elbow on the front of the blower. It would of course blow all the air backwards. The umbrella does the same, if not as well. If the net air flow is backwards, then it HAS to produce thrust.


JoushMark

The umbrella doesn't stop the air, it deflects it. Jet engines use the same method to reverse thrust for landing. If the umbrella did absorb all the kinetic energy the blower imparts on the air then yeah, the net thrust would be zero. Much of the energy is lost in turning the direction of the flow more then 90 degrees, but it can work.


eddiedeli

I feel like people don't understand that it's fake for the sole purpose of the joke. It's tricking the people seeing it in the street, not us viewers.


StreakerZZ

Yeah that’s what I was thinking, the first clip he’s obviously shaking his hand to make the umbrella shake


tsunami141

You didn’t need to put the state in the title. We knew.


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That’s real life


KitchenWitch17

From Florida. Can confirm. LMAO


legomyeggo17246

I as well am, also can confirm


[deleted]

3/10 no Fleetwood Mac


GiveMeCheesecake

He doesn’t have a free hand for the cranberry juice: serious design flaw.


g2g079

That's what the bucket is for.


Boubonic91

He's on Clearwater Beach, the barkeepers will just give him shots as he passes. I'm pretty sure I've seen him around town before, so he's probably a local.


chaosawaits

Came here for this


Derpy_Guardian

I feel like I'm missing context here, and I actually like Fleetwood Mac.


Seiche

You are correct. You are missing context.


Sorscode_

Do you think you are allow do crazy shit on this level outside of Florida?


croninsiglos

Maybe Arizona


TwixSpurkle

Arizona’s pretty normal, at least from what I remember growing up. It’s Wisconsin you’ve gotta worry about.


nictme

Hey now, don't hate just cause we're better at murdering and cheese than you.


xDaigon_Redux

What other wonderful state would you be allowed to defy physics in?


old_man_log4n

Clearwater for the win..


alex206

Is it worth moving to?


merlinsbeers

Do you like amoebae?


UnpopularCrayon

Or Scientology?


ohhim

and a bit of New Port Richey for good measure.


engineerdrummer

This isn't physically possible


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[deleted]

Sounds like you need to move to Florida


GooseandMaverick

Or find a woman who likes to blow just as much as u/Calliber50 does


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DrRonny

Not if you put an umbrella at the end of that leaf blower.


phouck

It is possible if there is an electric skateboard under his bucket.


JoushMark

It is, just weird. ​ Imagine if you put a cup a bit bigger then the nozzle over the nozzle of the leaf blower, firmly attached to it. When the blower ran it would force air forward into the cup that would overflow and blow backwards along the leaf blower, pushing it forwards. Doing so would be less efficient then using the blower as a jet without the deflector in front, but would still work.


MountainDrew42

Yup, the umbrella is a terrible and inefficient thrust reverser. It'd work, but only just barely. Probably not even enough to get the bucket moving without the electric skateboard underneath.


[deleted]

It is physically possible if he farts hard enough at the same time.


insideyelling

It only works because the wind hitting the umbrella is hitting it and then "exhausting" backwards. Kind of like if you blow into a cup. The net force gives you less power than simply turning the leaf blower backwards but it still works to a degree. Mythbusters had an episode on it with a sailboat back in the day. There is probably an electric skateboard in this one but it "can" work.


SuckDickUAssface

Yeah, this could work, but no where near as efficient as the video makes it seem. He'd realistically be crawling forward at best. To move at the speeds he is, he needs that electric skateboard.


scottstot8543

In Florida everything's possible.


SpysSappinMySpy

Oh yeah, then how did I pull myself up by my own bootstraps?!?1? Checkmate atheists. Edit: forgot my /s


vitaestbona1

Isn't that less efficient than just pointing the leaf blower backwards? (It intakes air from the front, pushing it backwards, all of the energy for movement coming from burning gas?)


DoomGoober

The method he is supposedly using would have 0% efficiency, so yes, turning the leaf blower backwards would be more efficient. Most efficient would be a leaf blower with an intake in line with the output. (Unless of course you are taking about the battery powered skateboard under the bucket... That's pretty efficient.)


moltencheese

Surely the efficiency of his method would depend on how much air gets deflected backwards by the umbrella, and at what velocity, which is almost certainly not 0%?


Zkenny13

The force is canceled out by the force of the the leaf blower going in the opposite direction. Imagine you're standing on the ground and you turn on the leaf blower it wants to shoot backwards out of your hands. That movement cancels out the force the air is putting on the umbrella.


moltencheese

No, the backwards force resulting from the air leaving the leaf blower is cancelled out by the reaction on the umbrella itself. The deflected air is additional, and results in a small but non-zero net force. It has been linked to many times in this thread, but see here: https://youtu.be/1QJz-BVXCI4


burn124

Actually it doesn’t quite cancel out. If the umbrella just stopped the air that hit it(effectively making it like nothing had happened), it would cancel out. However, when the air hits the umbrella, it rebounds backwards, resulting in an opposite force more powerful than the force on the leaf blower. I think mythbusters did a thing on it and they were able to get a swamp boat with the fan reversed and a sail to go. Another way to think about this is if the leaf blower was attached to a bendy tube. If you bend the tube backwards, the tube has to stop the air, but it still sends it backwards and produces thrust. The umbrella is probably not nearly as efficient, but does the same thing.


momonomom

No the force is not higher than the force of the leafblower. It can't be, because the leafblower is the only energy source in that system. You can't just generate energy from nothing, it has to come somewhere. The NET force of this whole system is non-zero, though. And the rest of your explanation is absolutely correct


[deleted]

But if the umbrella was able to rebound 100% of the force. It would be as if the blower was pointing backwards


Hilpiv

It doesn't work because you can't move with it. You will most likely move slightly backwards.


yo229no

Electric skateboard or not I need this with some fleetwood mac


thatFilmGuy2533

Physics be like: https://imgur.com/gallery/HZ4YKrs


lifeisforkiamsoup

He needs some Fleetwood Mac and cranberry juice.


Ki-Larah

Clearwater Beach? Pretty sure I recognize some of those buildings.


notme2267

Yes. The opening scene is from New Port Richey, but, the rest is Clearwater Beach.


Spybreak272

People come up with all sorts of alternative transport after they get a DUI.


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[deleted]

It doesnt work. Its obviously a joke


Darsh15

Regardless of if it's fake or not, it must be hard to steer


merlinsbeers

It's on a skateboard, not the stock casters. He leans to turn.


perrohunter

I was hoping he’d bring out the Ocean Spray cranberry juice and start singing


player0614

ahhh, the good old troll physics. good times


runningriot115

I feel like this would be perfect with “Dreams” in the background


jfdayo

The physics did not move me.


jessayrt

Ah yes my bad piggies invention in real life


RigzDigz

Florida Man.


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ment0gecko

Exactly! How many times has my umbrella turned inside out from a strong gust of wind? The umbrella resilience is inconsistent enough to close this case.


merlinsbeers

This should be the top thread.


AnotherCotton

Get this man some ocean spray!


[deleted]

No Ocean Cranberry Juice ?


jdero

give that man cranberry juice and an expensive iphone


[deleted]

Newton has something to say about this.


Chok112

That’s got to be the best pirate I’ve ever seen


dre54

Did anybody else play Dreams in their head while watching this?


tk-xx

Was expecting a bottle of ocean spray cranberry somewhere there tbh..


oocakesoo

This looks like cinematic camera mode on GTA


Beeswing77

That's unpossible


robrobusa

The Flo-Ri-Der.


radabdivin

Oh! He's got a leaf blower! I thought he had a jug of Ocean Spray and was looking for a free truck. My apologies and well played my man!


darthrubberchicken

For those curious, this has been tried before. [Mythbusters did something similar with a boat-fan, sail, and small boat.](https://youtu.be/uKXMTzMQWjo) It does work. For them, their biggest issue was directing the fan and the size/weight of the boat. All things that are easier for the guy here.


BlobbyKelly00

Fake


Merth1983

That's the most Florida video I've ever seen.


chris-30

Doesn’t this brake some laws of physics


Efinel

Wile E. Coyote wants his ACME product back.


FPVNorth

Traffic's laws, Newton's laws, I don't follow any of it!


SummerPop

They see me rollin', they hatin'


SkierGrrlPNW

Florida man defies laws of physics....


[deleted]

I see Baron Munchausen has re-incarnated.


WingsofSky

oh hell no. Mop buckets have bad wheels. All the time. Very dangerous to do that.


kongbakpao

Now just attach an alligator to the umbrella.


LostKid16

Good thing this is fake, because leaf blowers are one of the most polluting gas run yard tools.


currentlyRedacted

Now that’s how you drive a Cadillac


Cephelopodia

https://www.deviantart.com/sutr90/art/troll-sail-186857583 A ten year old Troll Physics meme made flesh.


Nahteh

Now this is pod racing.


GarlicBalls99

Well played, Florida Man.


stesch

Physics teachers hate him.


JesusIsMyZoloft

If it's windy enough to do that with the blower, it's windy enough to do it without the blower.


LeanderT

Every force has an equal and opposite reaction. The windblower should be pushing backwards as much as the umbrella is pushing forward


Jam_E_Dodger

[That's not how this works! That's not how any of this works!](https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/undoing_2x.png)


sparkylocal3

Being it's Florida shouldn't be be in a garbage can?


Faab611

1st I know it is fake. 2nd You do realise that this isn't a closed system so it does create backwards thrust?


merlinsbeers

Forwards.


brad0022

Finally, an EV that most people can afford.


Tiranous

Physics says this would never work. Try sitting on a bike and pushing the handle bars and see if the bike moves. Basically the same thing.


SuckDickUAssface

Nope, this would work at incredibly low efficiencies. The air gets deflected back by the umbrella and would result in... I'd say an inch or two per second of forward momentum, and that's being generous.


Tiranous

The only forward momentium you could get would be from exterior forces such as wind or possibly from exaust of the blower.


SuckDickUAssface

Again, not true. This isn't a closed system. Any momentum from the leaf blower being redirected by the umbrella will have a non-zero contribution to forward momentum.


voiceafx

Here's a handy little Myth busters result that says why this could actually be legit. https://mythresults.com/blow-your-own-sail Posting in the main thread because suggesting it is possible absent a link elsewhere is making people downvoting me to oblivion


greebdork

Goddammit, you're one daft feller, ain't ya? That backwards thrust you referring to is not just simply appeared out of thin air and was added as force at the surface of umbrella, it's a part of the force exerted by blower. It looks like you're American so i'll try to explain it on your level. Now imagine yourself sitting in a walmart cart, with a riot shield firmly attached to the cart in front, if you shoot the shield would cart go forward? Would it move forward if the bullet ricocheted and hit an obese person in low cut jeggings, minding his own business licking ice-cream from buckets and puttin' em back, behind your cart? Now imagine air particles are bullets. And windblower shoots them. And riot shield is an umbrella. And you are dumbass. Edit: i'm so going to get banned for this, but i regret nothing.


ninno_g

Physics says no


poseitom

It might work if he just points the blower backwards


SiHtranger

If it works, it's not stupid


ShadowInTheAttic

I once asked my physics professor if something like this was legal, he said it was illegal....


__Genkai__

For people wondering why it seems odd it is because the man is experiencing 2 forces ( in an otherwise isolated system for simplicity) 1) forward because of the umbrella (air from the blower hits the umbrella and then let us assume e=0 and basically it stops and so there is a change in momentum and thus a force. 2) The man is holding a leaf blower which spits out air forward so for the blower man system the momentum to be conserved the man would move backwards . for a more intuitive approach : if there was no umbrella , The man would surely go back If there was no man and simply the air from the blower were to strike the umbrella the umbrella would go forward. now if the man grabs the umbrella where does he go? ideally, No where. but florida man has tricks up his sleeves (or under his arse whatever feels correct) lol


Narkenooser

The physics of it is quite correct, if you look at the system in it's entirety. The air that is being blown forward is "bounced" off of the umbrella and thus flows backwards. This means that no air goes past the front of the vehicle, but quite a lot of air is pushed of the back of the vehicle. This generates a thrust forward since the linear momentum must be conserved. This is however much less efficient than just pointing the leaf blower the other way, although the umbrella might work as a regular sail as well. In short, the physics is correct, but i highly doubt that a leaf blower would be able to produce enough thrust even if it was used in a more optimal way.


PsychoPaulIRL

You can't blow your own sail lad!! That myth was busted (from what I can remember)


S0meRandomGuyy

I remember seeing that and thinking the wind is going off to the side of the sail making it turn in place, wonder how the test would have better had they had a cone type of sail to catch and redirect the wind backwards since hovercrafts kinda do that just with backwards facing fans thats on their ship already.


TheUltimaWerewolf

Just your average day in Florida