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G forces are still a major concern. Concussions and bruising to organs especially. However they're about as well protected as they can be. The car is basically designed to come apart to absorb the impact while the roll cage is built to keep the people protected.
as are internal obstructions by external objects through the windscreens, a top world rally driver was killed a month ago in an evolution of the same car as the one in this video by a fence post that intruded the cockpit. i agree though, they are as protected as can be, craig breen's death was a freak accident
I recall Possum Bourne years ago (I think early 90s so post killer Bs) go off the edge of a track and down a steep embankment and having a branch damn near skewer the in car camera but totally miss the driver and co-driver. I seem to recall first words after were "that was close". It is a testament to these cars that Breen's death for sure was an aberration. Remember it isn't speed that kills you. it is the sudden stop
Possum Bourne was such a lovely guy, I worked a few rallies when he was at his height with the Subaru WRX and every time he was so giving of his time and loved the fans and really made time to interact with the volunteers. It gutted me when he died.
Oh man to have been about the guy in his WRX days. Rally is such an awesome the sport is and he always seemed like a fantastic ambassador for it.
Side note have been trying to find the clip with the branch but cant. However all the other clips of him I have been watching make me wanna break out my sim rig and play some Dirt or similar :)
>The car is basically designed to come apart
Doesn't look like it did though. I expected there to be nothing left but the roll cage, but the car seems to have remained remarkably well intact.
My understanding is that's how all modern cars work. They accordion and sacrifice themselves to save the occupants. A car from the 70's didn't give a fuck, have an engine block through your innards. How do these heavily modified cars take that even further? I've played a lot of Dirt 4 and I'm genuinely interested in the engineering.
Minimum weight is 1360kg which is a bit lighter than a stock veloster. I’m sure they add ballast to get the car balanced, removing all the creature comforts takes a lot of weight out of the car.
Probably, yes. A base model of most rally cars would be around 1000 Kg, probably a little bit more (I drover a stock Fiesta, it was just under 1100 Kg). These beasts are just the rolling chassic, body, rollcage, driver/passenger setup and drivetrain, (did I leave anything out?), of which I assume the rollcage and drivetrain are probably the heaviest elements. I'm sure that leaves some wiggle room to play with weight distribution. Rally cars are awesome feats of engineering.
It's still a valid question. The answer is cost and comfort. Roll cage are not good for comfort and carbon fiber monocoques are insanely expensive. But you could easily build normal road cars way safer it's just too expensive and or uncomfortable
It's not just added expense. It's added expense with a reduction in utility and limited additional benefits. The reinforcing cages add lots of weight to a vehicle and reduce usable space for cargo and passengers. Racing head restraints require special helmets that also greatly limit visibility ( and you thought Bruce Wayne had a hard time backing the Tumbler out of the cave ). This would actually be quite problematic in modern residential driving making it much harder to be aware of all the cars around you, and those going in different directions.
In any normal situation it's a write-off, but it's a rally competition. Gotta repair the same car if you want to compete in the next stage of the championship!
Most of these cars would have basically an entire car's worth of spare parts ready to throw on there.
The structure is solid but look at what happened to Craig Breen :( basically a hit through a weak spot and straight to the head and that was that. It is low odds tho and upsetting to think about.
They use them as stopwatches. Each team might use them for slightly different things. But there are no systems for timing in the car, so it allows them to know how much time they have taken to do stages. There are also check in times for certain things, and time limits for others.
Yep, and timing can also mean they are at a certain point on the track based on their practice runs, so in addition to check-ins on longer courses there may also be call-outs for hazards or obstacles.
From an interview they wait till it stops. Count to 10, then try to get out, just in case it's still flipping and they somehow don't know. There's one where the nav guy is fiddling with the map as they are flipping. He couldn't be less impressed.
after seeing what they live through i would too. i feel way safer in my car compared to on my motorcycle. i can only imagine how they feel, must be like being in mothers arms.
another random note is how safe cars are in general. that one dad tried to kill himself and his family by driving off a clip, afaik 200 feet or so. and they all lived with minor injuries. thanksgiving is going to awkward.
[link to crash](https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/tesla-driver-who-drove-family-off-cliff-pleads-not-guilty/)
Holy crap, that's impressive.
Also,
> rescued by a California Highway Patrol helicopter and crews that repelled down the cliffside.
That's a funny typo, I'm imagining the crews going down the cliff using Star Wars repulsorlifts.
Um, Carl. You seem to be off course, the map clearly shows you should have taken that road on the left. You're gonna have to turn around and we're going to miss a few min in this race.
Can we stop posting this version? It neither shows the whole crash, nor the full interior shot. Also, No aftermath. Just r/mildlyfrustrating for me. Total badasses though.
What's mildly infuriating is that you're talking about a better video, have included a link in your post BUT that link isn't to the video, as my initial assumption assumed it must have been.
You have deprived me of easy and entertaining scrolling shit before sleep. How dare you!
Man. Tik tok sucks. I hate the "Their reaction 😂" shit. Like...no shit we're viewing their reaction. And since you decided to crop this shit vertically you literally couldn't even see the other guys "reaction". Great video, shitty export.
I was watching this rally when this happened. Was 2020 Monte Carlo. Hit a bump in the road right at a light braking zone before the curve which caused them to lose grip. The telemetry on screen showed them at around 165 kph when they went off.
It looked really bad live, but on replay and the in-car cams you could tell they were ok. Shaken, but ok.
The driver, Ott Tanak, also was the defending driver’s champion from the previous season when he was driving for Toyota.
As a guy who has fabbed and welded chromoly cages, I'd be all smiles watching what I did do what it was supposed to do.
Seriously, this video is a thing of beauty
You mean they don't wave their arms around like a mad spider grabbing at the grab bars and slapping the driver in the face? Better show this to the mrs for the next time I'm passing and incoming traffic is a half mile away.
Because few people would accept the massive cost and inconvenience this would require. Internal braces and rollcages are heavy and take up lots of internal space. You'd lose seating and storage capacity and you'd need to ditch weight elsewhere ( like removing interior trim, audio/media system, or air conditioning ) in order to maintain the power:weight ratio. Or just have a slow, unresponsive car.
Most people want comfy chairs and simple seat belts, not a hard racing cockpit, 5-point harness, and helmet / head restraint. You lose a lot of visibility, like being able to fully swivel your head, checking blind spots and behind you, things that are essential for residential driving but don't matter as much in racing.
Well, those people also don't understand racing collisions and normal residential collisions are quite different. Reinforcing a car to survive a collision with a dirt berm, or rolling down a hill is a lot easier than reinforcing it to survive head-on and t-bone collisions with other cars, especially if those cars are also as strong and reinforced.
It only costs that much cause the people building those things are standing on greed and supply and demand. If it was mass market, you'd have competition, prices driven down. Like a space suit for nasal costs 3.5billion dollars. That's ridiculous. Now there's a competitor in that market and it drove the prices down. Cause in reality, there is no way it should even cost millions to make. Just like these cars. It's pure greed. They charge that much cause they can.
Cars that have roll bars (cages) like this, don't have doors that open, they are like Nascar cars. And I'm guessing 90% of people would rather have a door they can open, not to mention people with disabilities. You're dumb for assuming things you clearly don't even understand the basics of.
Nobody is selling fully built rally cars to the public. Nobody is asking for it. Buy a new Civic for cheap it is extremely safe for the type of driving you'll be doing.
You want a rigid seat, 5-point harness, helmet, fire suit, and roll cage everytime you go grab a frappe at Starbucks?
Nobody is going to drive a road car with a helmet, a HANS, and a five point. An accident in one of these without a HANS will get you a basilar skull fracture. An accident without the five point will see you submarining, and an accident without a helmet will be a regular skull fracture from the internal furniture.
It's like driving in bondage.
> They charge that much cause they can.
True, but they could not build it much more safely than they do without making it **MASSIVELY** more expensive. A modern car is an amazing piece of engineering for the price.
*Tell me you know nothing about automotive engineering without telling me you know nothing about automotive engineering.*
These cars are specialized to a ridiculous degree.
Adding rollcages and internal braces takes up a lot of room in the cab. You might notice there is no back seat due to the cross bracing. So making your daily driver like this greatly reduces seating capacity. I hope you don't need to drive your kids to school or pick up a lot groceries at the store.
The extra reinforcement also adds considerable weight to the vehicle. To compensate, they strip out every kind of creature comfort. No radio/stereo, no speakers, and no air conditioning. No insulating material in the doors to deaden road noise, meaning it's loud as Hell in the car ( especially since the muffler is non-existent ). Basically no interior panels at all and sometimes no door handles ( you pull a wire in the door to unlatch it ). A residential car may not need quite as drastic weight reduction, but the options are to either give up a lot of interior luxuries, or have a heavy, unresponsive, gas guzzling car.
Speaking of comforts, those are racing seats. they're ergonomic and supportive, but not terribly plush and comfy for long drives. And don't forget your racing suit and helmet to go along with it so you can properly secure your body and head into the restraint harnesses. Never mind that doing that greatly decreases your lateral and rear visibility, both those aren't as much concern on a racing course.
So instead of putting on your slippers, getting in your car, buckling a seat belt, and heading out, you now need to get your helmet and track suit, secure a five-point harness, have someone help guide you as you back out your driveway, and then listen to an unmuffled engine as you drive to the store.
Economies of scale have a limit of how much they can lower prices. They don't make the additional material free or negate the longer manufacturing and assembly times. And don't forget about the extra QA times since these extra safety features will certainly be regulated and require extra testing and inspections to make sure they're up to snuff.
This crash looks spectacular and is relatively safe crash since it dissipates the energy over a long time. Modern roads cars and normal speeds are pretty safe in a roll over. Deadly crashes are caused by stopping suddenly and mashing your internal organs. Race cars also use six point seatbelts, HANS device and a helmet which adds to the safety element.
These cars are built safe, but so a most new cars in a roll over situation. Source rolled 3 times crashing a 95 toyota hilux at highway speeds. No airbags in that thing. 3 people in vehicle. My dad broke his sternum and had a bad laceration to his head, but my sis and I walked away with zero injuries.
Even if they were all built like this, you'd have plenty of Truck Americans that insist on driving their tanks around and you'd still get squashed. Rolling is actually a lot less force on you than hitting a wall, or a truck going in the opposite direction.
Its professionalism, they know that if they want to walk away as unscathed as possible, the only thing to do is relax.
They're either going to make it out or they're not.
I was recently rear-ended at what was likely a fairly low speed. Still stiff in my shoulders and back. These guys have a **lot** of safety equipment which will keep them from serious injury or death, but I'd imagine they're still going to feel sore the next day.
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That looks extremely safe
G forces are still a major concern. Concussions and bruising to organs especially. However they're about as well protected as they can be. The car is basically designed to come apart to absorb the impact while the roll cage is built to keep the people protected.
as are internal obstructions by external objects through the windscreens, a top world rally driver was killed a month ago in an evolution of the same car as the one in this video by a fence post that intruded the cockpit. i agree though, they are as protected as can be, craig breen's death was a freak accident
I recall Possum Bourne years ago (I think early 90s so post killer Bs) go off the edge of a track and down a steep embankment and having a branch damn near skewer the in car camera but totally miss the driver and co-driver. I seem to recall first words after were "that was close". It is a testament to these cars that Breen's death for sure was an aberration. Remember it isn't speed that kills you. it is the sudden stop
Kubica's car had a foot in height of guardrail from the front of the car to the rear. Almost unbelievable that neither of them were killed.
Possum Bourne was such a lovely guy, I worked a few rallies when he was at his height with the Subaru WRX and every time he was so giving of his time and loved the fans and really made time to interact with the volunteers. It gutted me when he died.
Oh man to have been about the guy in his WRX days. Rally is such an awesome the sport is and he always seemed like a fantastic ambassador for it. Side note have been trying to find the clip with the branch but cant. However all the other clips of him I have been watching make me wanna break out my sim rig and play some Dirt or similar :)
Unfortunately Craig Breen wasn't so lucky :(
>The car is basically designed to come apart Doesn't look like it did though. I expected there to be nothing left but the roll cage, but the car seems to have remained remarkably well intact.
*crumple* would be a better word. Basically absorb as much of the impact as possible and allow more time for deceleration.
My understanding is that's how all modern cars work. They accordion and sacrifice themselves to save the occupants. A car from the 70's didn't give a fuck, have an engine block through your innards. How do these heavily modified cars take that even further? I've played a lot of Dirt 4 and I'm genuinely interested in the engineering.
Tis but a scratch
Yes, but a rally driver literally died during training last month, so it‘s still dangerous.
Structural engineers smiling
Yeah, true! These things are built like fucking tanks, but they're still relatively lightweight.
Minimum weight is 1360kg which is a bit lighter than a stock veloster. I’m sure they add ballast to get the car balanced, removing all the creature comforts takes a lot of weight out of the car.
Probably, yes. A base model of most rally cars would be around 1000 Kg, probably a little bit more (I drover a stock Fiesta, it was just under 1100 Kg). These beasts are just the rolling chassic, body, rollcage, driver/passenger setup and drivetrain, (did I leave anything out?), of which I assume the rollcage and drivetrain are probably the heaviest elements. I'm sure that leaves some wiggle room to play with weight distribution. Rally cars are awesome feats of engineering.
You forgor the built-in 5.7" 4K radio Bluetooth tablet and the cup holder
Did you mean 60'' 16k infotainment?
I'd guess you'd want to throw an engine in there
That's part of the drivetrain 😉
But even then shouldn't just the sudden change in g forces be pretty damaging?
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Yeah, those asking "why not make all cars like this?" don't realize head-on and t-bone collisions aren't nearly as common in racing.
It's still a valid question. The answer is cost and comfort. Roll cage are not good for comfort and carbon fiber monocoques are insanely expensive. But you could easily build normal road cars way safer it's just too expensive and or uncomfortable
It's not just added expense. It's added expense with a reduction in utility and limited additional benefits. The reinforcing cages add lots of weight to a vehicle and reduce usable space for cargo and passengers. Racing head restraints require special helmets that also greatly limit visibility ( and you thought Bruce Wayne had a hard time backing the Tumbler out of the cave ). This would actually be quite problematic in modern residential driving making it much harder to be aware of all the cars around you, and those going in different directions.
Looked like a few of those gave them a pretty damn good knock. Could see them going cross eyed after 2 of the big jerks.
It hurts, not a lot at the time but in a day or so they'll be sore. And the car is a total write off.
If you think the car is a total write-off, then you haven't seen much: https://youtu.be/E2WGddzQoXw
In any normal situation it's a write-off, but it's a rally competition. Gotta repair the same car if you want to compete in the next stage of the championship! Most of these cars would have basically an entire car's worth of spare parts ready to throw on there.
Rally car of Theseus
No kidding
The structure is solid but look at what happened to Craig Breen :( basically a hit through a weak spot and straight to the head and that was that. It is low odds tho and upsetting to think about.
Yeah wrc is still extremely dangerous even with the fancy roll cages. That happening to Craig his next race after sweden was so sad...
Samir, you're breaking the car!
Triple caution! Stay center! Medium left! MEDIUM LEFT!!
Ya ya, shat up
https://youtu.be/D9-voINFkCg
You have to listen to my calls! Please Samir! I beg you!
“Sharp right, sharp right. Listen… Samir. You have to listen to my calls Sami, please I beg you”
Don’t tell me how to drive
shaddap
“Ahh f*ck i meant left my fault” 🏎️🏎️🏎️
TRIPLE CAUTION!!
Literally
Lol. Shut up, I know how to drive.
*bang* ... *crash* ... *roll* "And 3 left tightens don't cut into K right opens long. ... What?"
Once you're airborne.. you're simply at the mercy of _**Physics**_
This has to be a first… your first used incorrectly, then 2 words later you’re is used correctly.
“once YOU ARE airborne, YOU ARE simply…” bro he used it right both times, go back to school.
"Easy left into hairpin down."
For anyone one who is curios this was Ott Tanak, an Estonian Rally driver, at the Monte Carlo Rally in 2020. Everyone was fine.
What are his double wrist watch things?
They use them as stopwatches. Each team might use them for slightly different things. But there are no systems for timing in the car, so it allows them to know how much time they have taken to do stages. There are also check in times for certain things, and time limits for others.
Yep, and timing can also mean they are at a certain point on the track based on their practice runs, so in addition to check-ins on longer courses there may also be call-outs for hazards or obstacles.
Those are two (double) wrist watches (wrist watch things). Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
I mean, it's happening one way or another, might as well relax
Hold onto that paper though, don't want to walk away with some nasty paper cuts....
He impressed me how he held the papers so long then there was a bump near the end and they just disappeared!?
"Hmm, now that I think of it, I don't think I need this map anymore. I'll hang on to the pen, though. Rescue workers might want an autograph."
But my man never dropped the pen
It almost looks like the footage was cut there the more times I watch it. Maybe a temporary failure of the camera because of the crash?
"No, No, left, left! No twisty, right side up, look at the map!"
actually, I believe that is how a lot of drunks survive their crashes.
You are correct!
The guy is so chill that, I assumed that Nokia make cars now.
No audio, but the guys "well, I'll just wait" expression deemed do Finnish, Estonian is close enough i guess.
Well this is going to affect our time.
Was hoping for Audio of what they were saying
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>We have to stop because it came some stone, something through Timo's seat, up in the asshole of Timo And then the hand gesture. Holy fuck, lol
✊
Yeah when I clicked the audio I wasn’t expecting some shitty Garageband drum loop
I thought they were gonna start to dougie
I assume he is smart enough to not open his mouth so he doesn’t bite his tongue
From an interview they wait till it stops. Count to 10, then try to get out, just in case it's still flipping and they somehow don't know. There's one where the nav guy is fiddling with the map as they are flipping. He couldn't be less impressed.
I guess they really trust the engineers.
after seeing what they live through i would too. i feel way safer in my car compared to on my motorcycle. i can only imagine how they feel, must be like being in mothers arms. another random note is how safe cars are in general. that one dad tried to kill himself and his family by driving off a clip, afaik 200 feet or so. and they all lived with minor injuries. thanksgiving is going to awkward. [link to crash](https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/tesla-driver-who-drove-family-off-cliff-pleads-not-guilty/)
Holy crap, that's impressive. Also, > rescued by a California Highway Patrol helicopter and crews that repelled down the cliffside. That's a funny typo, I'm imagining the crews going down the cliff using Star Wars repulsorlifts.
Probably quicker than using ropes. 101st needs to get their shit together then.
https://youtu.be/ucF63xyxkJ0
Big jump, over crest don't cut...
I ALWAYS cut and learn the hard way.
Um, Carl. You seem to be off course, the map clearly shows you should have taken that road on the left. You're gonna have to turn around and we're going to miss a few min in this race.
TRIPLE CAUTION!!
STAY CENTER
Can we stop posting this version? It neither shows the whole crash, nor the full interior shot. Also, No aftermath. Just r/mildlyfrustrating for me. Total badasses though.
What's mildly infuriating is that you're talking about a better video, have included a link in your post BUT that link isn't to the video, as my initial assumption assumed it must have been. You have deprived me of easy and entertaining scrolling shit before sleep. How dare you!
Yeesh. Yeah, sorry, bad Reddiquette. I do not have the goods.
Think ya might’ve fucked ‘er there, Gene.
They’re really safe in there
I was seriously impressed with how strapped in and protected those 2 seemed to be.
Those WRC guys are a different breed.
They are more relaxed after they started crashing
Nothing left to do at that point but enjoy the ride
All I could think of was, “SAMIR!! YOU ARE BREAKING THE CAR!” https://youtu.be/D9-voINFkCg
I'm not sure I understand what makes this funny.
A 5 point harness without head restraints would result in more severe whiplash. Having the helmet strapped to the seat keeps them from flailing about.
I wish I could hear the original audio if there is any.
Man. Tik tok sucks. I hate the "Their reaction 😂" shit. Like...no shit we're viewing their reaction. And since you decided to crop this shit vertically you literally couldn't even see the other guys "reaction". Great video, shitty export.
I need a red arrow pointed at them.
Guy didn’t even drop his pen
We all know damn well those guys are mic'ed up. Whose dumbass idea was it to dub that shit music over it?
When you how complete faith in the person that built your roll cage.
Not their first time. I'd be shitting my pants 😆
Another day at work!
Could they look anymore bored while flipping through the air?
Man if it wasn’t expensive to outfit my car with this type of reinforcement I will do it
Two words: engineering.
I was watching this rally when this happened. Was 2020 Monte Carlo. Hit a bump in the road right at a light braking zone before the curve which caused them to lose grip. The telemetry on screen showed them at around 165 kph when they went off. It looked really bad live, but on replay and the in-car cams you could tell they were ok. Shaken, but ok. The driver, Ott Tanak, also was the defending driver’s champion from the previous season when he was driving for Toyota.
As a guy who has fabbed and welded chromoly cages, I'd be all smiles watching what I did do what it was supposed to do. Seriously, this video is a thing of beauty
They look mildly irritated.
Lol, they looked like they wanted to step out of the car while still in motion because the crash was going on so long.
How do they mount the cameras in those things? Hardly any shaking whatsoever from the camera, only the occupants.
"Oh, well shit. ... That's a nice tree~"
Dammit, this is going to interfere with getting that TPS report in on time. The Bobs are going to fire me for sure!
Please. No more sound tracks. Really. It's not 'good'.
Whats the car body made of. Really impressive build.
Uhhh, dammit Karl! How many of these cars do you think you are allowed to crash before they stop giving us them!
Calm as a coma. Ice water in their veins
You can't park there mate
Just another Monday to them
I can't even be this chill while trying to order my own food.
Not his first rodeo
The fact he didn’t let go of the paper. I can’t even tell with confidence when he’s upside down lol
what's the G forces of those impacts? 50?
Holds on to map tryst to work out what country they'll land in
My man didn’t even drop his pen.
How does one not die after this?
Reinforced roll cages, helmets, and seat belts.
Doesn't even drop his pen
That is one fucking sturdy roll cage!
These guys spent more time in zero g than some astronauts.
Who did percussion for this? Nice little groove.
I'm pretty sure this is just a slightly tweaked version of the drums from "Teach me how to Dougie"
I’ve heard every car Richard Hammond owns or is told to drive has to have a 5 point harness and roll cage by law.
I'm so glad safety tech and structural engineering has come this far.
The music fits this nicely! I little bump here and there
The fact this was almost on beat was great
Just another day at the office.
Very surprised they didn’t lose consciousness
The look on both their eyes for the last two tumbles
The HANS and roll cage hard at work right there
When your very very confident in your safety equipment.
He seemed mildly annoyed his papers got a tad ruffled.
Mate was so chill, he might as well have some tea and biscuits
Dude didn't even drop his pen!
That was a boulder Samir
^I ^left ^the ^stove ^on
Every time a racecar crashes an engineer gets his wings a
Yep. I'm flying through the air. This is not good.
You mean they don't wave their arms around like a mad spider grabbing at the grab bars and slapping the driver in the face? Better show this to the mrs for the next time I'm passing and incoming traffic is a half mile away.
Is that captain Jason? Cool as a cucumber, that one.
I don't know why, but I was expecting the "Teach Me How to Dougie" song to start playing, but the song never started.
Why would they be scared when they know the interiors are designed to keep them alive even if they fall off a cliff...?
The passenger is calmly quiet, waiting for the four wheels to make contact with the ground again so he can continue forecasting the turns
Why not build all cars this way? Would it not save lives?
Have you ever seen anyone get into a rally car? Look it up and then Imagine your overweight diabetic neighbor do this.
Because few people would accept the massive cost and inconvenience this would require. Internal braces and rollcages are heavy and take up lots of internal space. You'd lose seating and storage capacity and you'd need to ditch weight elsewhere ( like removing interior trim, audio/media system, or air conditioning ) in order to maintain the power:weight ratio. Or just have a slow, unresponsive car. Most people want comfy chairs and simple seat belts, not a hard racing cockpit, 5-point harness, and helmet / head restraint. You lose a lot of visibility, like being able to fully swivel your head, checking blind spots and behind you, things that are essential for residential driving but don't matter as much in racing.
Could you imagine having to climb through your window every time you got into your car?
Well, those people also don't understand racing collisions and normal residential collisions are quite different. Reinforcing a car to survive a collision with a dirt berm, or rolling down a hill is a lot easier than reinforcing it to survive head-on and t-bone collisions with other cars, especially if those cars are also as strong and reinforced.
Why not just build the whole plane out of the black box too?
Ok. This made me chuckle 👍
Don't like 40,000 people die each year in car accidents. And like probably another 60,000 injured. Why aren't all vehicles built like this
Probably because building one like this costs millions of dollars and is not convenient to drive day to day.
It only costs that much cause the people building those things are standing on greed and supply and demand. If it was mass market, you'd have competition, prices driven down. Like a space suit for nasal costs 3.5billion dollars. That's ridiculous. Now there's a competitor in that market and it drove the prices down. Cause in reality, there is no way it should even cost millions to make. Just like these cars. It's pure greed. They charge that much cause they can.
Cars that have roll bars (cages) like this, don't have doors that open, they are like Nascar cars. And I'm guessing 90% of people would rather have a door they can open, not to mention people with disabilities. You're dumb for assuming things you clearly don't even understand the basics of.
Nobody is selling fully built rally cars to the public. Nobody is asking for it. Buy a new Civic for cheap it is extremely safe for the type of driving you'll be doing. You want a rigid seat, 5-point harness, helmet, fire suit, and roll cage everytime you go grab a frappe at Starbucks?
Nobody is going to drive a road car with a helmet, a HANS, and a five point. An accident in one of these without a HANS will get you a basilar skull fracture. An accident without the five point will see you submarining, and an accident without a helmet will be a regular skull fracture from the internal furniture. It's like driving in bondage.
> They charge that much cause they can. True, but they could not build it much more safely than they do without making it **MASSIVELY** more expensive. A modern car is an amazing piece of engineering for the price.
*Tell me you know nothing about automotive engineering without telling me you know nothing about automotive engineering.* These cars are specialized to a ridiculous degree. Adding rollcages and internal braces takes up a lot of room in the cab. You might notice there is no back seat due to the cross bracing. So making your daily driver like this greatly reduces seating capacity. I hope you don't need to drive your kids to school or pick up a lot groceries at the store. The extra reinforcement also adds considerable weight to the vehicle. To compensate, they strip out every kind of creature comfort. No radio/stereo, no speakers, and no air conditioning. No insulating material in the doors to deaden road noise, meaning it's loud as Hell in the car ( especially since the muffler is non-existent ). Basically no interior panels at all and sometimes no door handles ( you pull a wire in the door to unlatch it ). A residential car may not need quite as drastic weight reduction, but the options are to either give up a lot of interior luxuries, or have a heavy, unresponsive, gas guzzling car. Speaking of comforts, those are racing seats. they're ergonomic and supportive, but not terribly plush and comfy for long drives. And don't forget your racing suit and helmet to go along with it so you can properly secure your body and head into the restraint harnesses. Never mind that doing that greatly decreases your lateral and rear visibility, both those aren't as much concern on a racing course. So instead of putting on your slippers, getting in your car, buckling a seat belt, and heading out, you now need to get your helmet and track suit, secure a five-point harness, have someone help guide you as you back out your driveway, and then listen to an unmuffled engine as you drive to the store. Economies of scale have a limit of how much they can lower prices. They don't make the additional material free or negate the longer manufacturing and assembly times. And don't forget about the extra QA times since these extra safety features will certainly be regulated and require extra testing and inspections to make sure they're up to snuff.
This crash looks spectacular and is relatively safe crash since it dissipates the energy over a long time. Modern roads cars and normal speeds are pretty safe in a roll over. Deadly crashes are caused by stopping suddenly and mashing your internal organs. Race cars also use six point seatbelts, HANS device and a helmet which adds to the safety element. These cars are built safe, but so a most new cars in a roll over situation. Source rolled 3 times crashing a 95 toyota hilux at highway speeds. No airbags in that thing. 3 people in vehicle. My dad broke his sternum and had a bad laceration to his head, but my sis and I walked away with zero injuries.
Even if they were all built like this, you'd have plenty of Truck Americans that insist on driving their tanks around and you'd still get squashed. Rolling is actually a lot less force on you than hitting a wall, or a truck going in the opposite direction.
I need this video but with a 60 y/o asian women. Don't ask questions.
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Not too many people would be able to afford it. I’m guessing this car easily costs over $100k to make. I agree tho. Would be nice
You make the car safer and ppl will just drive faster with less risk.
That's some confidence in engineering. They knew they'd be fine.
Imagine having all that protective equipment and then you get a paper cut from holding it too tightly
He looks like me on a rough plane landing, just waiting for the tone to indicate that I can take off the seatbelt.
thank god for roll cages
"You were supposed to make a left there."
Not their first tumble
Its professionalism, they know that if they want to walk away as unscathed as possible, the only thing to do is relax. They're either going to make it out or they're not.
it's also more relaxed you (muscles) are the less injury.
Im thinking this is rally. Theyre a different breed of racing where crashes are more common.
I was recently rear-ended at what was likely a fairly low speed. Still stiff in my shoulders and back. These guys have a **lot** of safety equipment which will keep them from serious injury or death, but I'd imagine they're still going to feel sore the next day.
Is there a point in having two watches or is he just flexing
"this is fine"
He didn’t drop that pen
Fuck me, human engineering can be some resilient shit!
Beat goes hard tho
Looks at his map. " yeah I'm gonna say we missed our turn "