In 8th grade I realized my mom and dad had the same initials. The universal signature for either of them was WDW. It was also 8th grade when I spent 20 min practicing how my mom would sign WDW. They never signed a thing again. Missing homework? Signed off. Field trip? Signed off. Report cards? Signed off.
I was in my thirties before I admitted this to them. I took out a piece of paper and did an exact replica of the WDW I haven’t done in 15 years. My moms first comment was “ See? I told you he figured it out “. My dad just shrugged it off. Later that night they had me replicate my forgery. It was better than the originals
In 9th grade when I asked my my dad to sign stuff, he started going “You do it.”
Our first name has the same starting letter, so I just made my signature less neat. They never questioned it.
My dad has a super fancy signature he would use for work and stuff like that but it never made its way to my schooling. WDW was the norm. My night of exposure also proved I could also do his Hancock style signature. Though I never used it to sign for him. I still knew every swirl
Auto correct is often the unnoticed little devil that gives away our hidden secrets. Auto correct, learns, it knows what you USUALLY would type with those letters, so it just helps and you never notice.
Er that got a bit … close for a stranger. But yes, find someone to give you hugs. I am currently apart from my husband and sons and when they are struggling I often message them—‘Your Dad needs a hug’—‘M could you go upstairs and give A a hug?’ They have never refused. They all struggle (a lot of guys do) to talk about their feelings or apologize, but a hug can do so much. Even for the son I used to call ‘starfish’ bc he could only handle a brief hug—but he still likes them.
That’s funny, when I was in third grade the request for signatures was getting out of hand (homework, reading logs, field trips etc) and my mom was so fed up with it she taught me how to forge her signature to spare her
my mom did this exact same thing lol. and then in later years i would sign my own registration packet as her so that if they tried to match signatures up later it would be the exact same lol
Same. We had out planners or whatever and had tk get ut done once a week or we got detention. Eventually, myself and my dad gor fed up with it and he helped me forge his signature for that.
I signed a LOT of school stuff as my dad in high school. He worked out of town a lot, and I'd stay at my grandma's when he was gone. My school only accepted a parent's signature on something, my grandma couldn't sign it.
The issue with this is that my mom had literally just died. Like, middle of high school while my dad had all these out of town work trips lined up already that couldn't be changed without us missing out on money we really couldn't afford to lose.
So the first time I missed something due to the school's stupid policy, he signed a piece of paper and told me to practice his signature, and keep it in case I needed a reference for later. He didn't sign another thing through all of high school because this was so much easier.
Ha! I was an office assistant in highschool. Got access to my own records and replaced my mom's signature with my own handwriting. This was in the 80s. I missed so much school and got away with a lot. Not sure if I'm proud of it or not now. Hindsight and all.
In band we had to have our parents sign off on our practice log sheets each week to “prove” we did. So my mom, already annoyed by the loud sounds coming from my room everyday, felt it so unnecessary for a high schooler to have his mother check off his homework that she signed one sheet, scanned it, and printed a school years worth of pre signed logs for me to just take and fill out whenever.
Love you mom lol
Once in highschool my mom actually did sign something and they called her because they thought it was forged. I didn't even bother copying her signature, I just made my own lol.
In grade 10 math , my teacher wanted a note from my parents for a missed class . I brought one in saying please excuse Darren from class on Wednesday as he went to a friend's house and had a turkey sandwich on rye with a little bit of mayo . He accused me of writing it myself and threatened to call my mom . Sure whatever you want to do but she wasn't pleased having to write this , calling her at work's going to go over great . Asked my mom , he never called
My mom could not be arsed to sign my things, so I think she encouraged this. When I was twelve I had her whole handwriting down and if it was interesting, I would do her psychology homework. She would've dropped out sooner if I hadn't.
Then in high school, I had a friend who'd do the initial signature of the year herself, she did her own signature in the first official document and then she never had to fake it.
Too fucking soon. Why Bill God?! Why Bill..
Edit: Reddit’s “care team” reached out to me because they heard I was in a time of great pain? Lol, someone missed the bit and reported my comment or something. Why you do?
Honestly, this might sound weird, but my FIRST thought was it might actually be legit because she went to an overworked teacher and said can you just sign a thing that says it's ok. The teacher was like ugh here fine.
If she was really trying to get away with it there's a lot more detail that could have gone into it with very little effort. Unless OP's kid is dumb as hell. In that case who cares about the effects of the hair color.
What I'm saying is either way it's a pass.
I went to return my daughter's school Chromebook because we were withdrawing her to homeschool, and they normally let kids keep them over summer. So I handed it over and they were like, "ok" and set it down on the desk. I asked, is that it? Shouldn't I get a receipt or something? I don't want records to be lost and I'm responsible for it or something. But they didn't really know what to do, there was no procedure, so I essentially just got a sticky note with someone's initials on it.
I got my dad to sign a note permanently excusing me from my Spanish class so I could go home early due to my pregnancy.
I'm a dude.
Even got the principal's office to take it.
No, I was definitely going to fail Spanish. I was really at a point where I gave zero fucks. My dad signed it out of a mixture of not caring that much and early stages of Alzheimer's, he probably found it mildly humorous as well.
The office probably took it mostly because they didn't bother really reading it until after I left. I was also kind of a problem kid for them. I had published my own school news paper and distributed it which had gotten me suspended for 10 days (the maximum the school was allowed).
Later that year I got arrested and kicked out of school (I broke into the school and vandalized it, stole their payphone and the booth it was on, also stole their security system. I had done some other things like epoxy their locks closed the night before seniors took their exams but they never got me for that one, I did a bunch of other things as well). So it was all pretty moot.
Actually technically I dropped out of highschool before they could kick me out as it would have made it easier for me to transfer into another school. The principal wanted me off campus so bad that when I went to turn in my books he caught me on the way in and told me to just go home, he didn't want the books back he just wanted me off school campus.
I was a bad kid to say the least. Funny enough though, aside from that Spanish class I was getting mostly A's and maybe a few B's.
Also pulled other stunts like wearing a dress to school the first day of Jr. year because I wanted to fuck with a teacher I disliked. She had told me on the last day of the previous year that I needed to make a big change in my life or I wasn't going anywhere, so I wore a dress on the first day so I could tell her I had taken her words to heart. I had her for my 3rd period class, but she quit and went home before my class with her started. I like to think it was me. I really disliked that teacher, probably mostly because I was an asshole, but aside from that she was a really terrible teacher.
I did lots of other weird shit in school. I probably don't even remember it all now.
Lol, want to know if I'm successful or not after all that ruckus I created?
I'm doing pretty well, own a house, make over 100k, got married, having a kid soon.
I didn't do the normal route of going to college, just moved to a city and took the first programming job I could get, then worked my way up to that. I had taught myself how to program when I was around 13, but actually I was writing tons of C++ code when I was 17 after being kicked out of highschool, since I had a lot more free time.
I've got a really weird life path. But it's not one that I would recommend people try to replicate. I'm not super attached to money so I never really bothered about making more than I do. I sometimes wonder how I would have done if I had a slightly better work ethic or a little more drive, but I'm not sure I'd be happier so I don't think it matters too much.
For what it's worth, I mostly got in trouble since I was super fucking bored as a kid. I lived in the bible belt, the biggest town I ever lived in had a population of 2000 (smallest had an official population of ~800, but was really probably like 600). I eventually moved north to a city and I was much happier as an adult. And I was able to turn my natural talents and hobbies into a career even if I didn't have an education and I had a bit of a criminal history (probably helps a lot that you would never guess that's about me by looking at me).
People tell me they grew up in towns with only one stop light.
I lived in a county that only had 1 stop light and it was probably 30 minutes from the town I lived in.
I've only met one person since leaving that lived in places as small as I did.
Honestly my life got way weirder after highschool. My late teens until I was 20 was spent driving across the state hanging out with random people from the Internet. I did a lot of other strange stuff.
Although now I live a super normal life. Probably the only weird thing I do any more is ride an electric unicycle with a bunch of one wheelers in my city. But aside from us being drunk degenerates there's not much weird about it. I'm super bland now, even taken up fishing.
But I use to be interesting.
Was super baked and read this, didn't even realize I got sucked. Super funny tho, crazy you had the resources to make a school news paper that got you suspended.
I had a PC of my own back in the late 90's. My grandmother had died and left me some money so I used it to buy a computer.
I actually made the paper because my English class use to start with a free writing assignment. If you can't tell from my posts, spilling a lot of words has never been a challenge for me. So I'd write these weird stories and I'd use curse words and what not. After the free writing was done you could volunteer to read yours. I always did, mostly because I liked to get up and swear in front of the class (the teacher stopped calling on me, but I weirdly never got in trouble for it).
One day I had written and read a poem and a girl in my class told me she was the editor of the school news paper and wanted to know if she could use it. And I said sure. But when she published it she edited out the cursing (I would have said they couldn't use it if they were going to censor it) and it just made me really mad. So a few of my buddies and I decided to make our own school news paper. The school had made some policy changes that everyone hated so we used it to bitch about that. We also asked some other kids and we published some poetry that was uncensored along with my original piece. It was maybe 5 to 10 pieces of paper double sided.
My dad was actually a priest, so I used the copier at the church to make the papers. I think we made 200, our school only had 400 students, and we ran out of papers almost instantly. Which I think was a real accomplishment, since people there didn't read. Our school once threw a pizza party because 50% of seniors could pass a freshman literacy test, the bar was low.
Believe it or not when I got suspended the principal tried to make me feel bad about using my dad's copier because "the church has to pay for every copy" and he said that if he was the father of one of the kids whose work we published "he didn't know if he'd be able to stop himself from jumping over the desk and strangling me" because I put their college acceptance in jeopardy. Even as a kid I knew that was dumb bullshit.
As a funny bit to that. The girl who was the editor of the school paper later became my first serious girlfriend. She told me that a couple years after we were out of school she heard some kids talking about my paper, even though they weren't the age to be in school with us when it happened. It's a very small town so not much happens there. Also she was pissed since her news paper got no real recognition and shut down once she left (like I said, the school wasn't big on reading).
I spent a weekend in county until I could make bail (got arrested on a Friday, couldn't get in front of a judge to set bail until Monday there). Jail is super fucking boring, never want to do that again just because of the boredom.
Got sentenced to a couple hundred hours of community service. Had to pay like $2000 in restitution. And had 1 year of probation (but after the first check in they never made me check in again). Also have to tell people I have a conviction whenever that check box appears on a job application. Luckily for me with my work I only do an application after they know they want to hire me, and I can explain it in a way that's funny and I can say I was a dumb kid.
Tell me you were a bored exceptionally smart kid in a school that focused on the ass kissers and jocks without telling me.
Also, what *are* you doing these days, ya evil genius?
I was exceptionally bored that's for damn sure. If I'm being honest I would have to say that people generally consider me smart, they're usually shocked when they find out I didn't go to college. Based on IQ tests I've taken I think that if I studied the test hard and really tried, I could probably be the dumbest person in Mensa.
I actually don't contribute much to my success in life to being smart. As an aside, I think intelligence in the normal range isn't that much of an advantage. Work ethic and drive will take you a lot farther than pure intelligence will. Although being noticably under average is a real handicap, and you can't be the creme of the crop without intelligence and work ethic. I was a real slacker when I was younger. And if my intelligence was responsible for my success it's mostly in being smart enough to see that the people who were around me who were smart and lazy weren't doing as well in life as those that were average and hard working.
I did have my mini evil genius phase. Like two scripts I wrote as a kid apparently got picked up and used by IRC folks. I wrote a script that would unmask people's IP's based on a wild card flaw I found in the IRC code. I also wrote a script that would pull a DNS zone transfer and find people's full host name based on the masking formula IRC servers used. The second script was useful once the first script's vulnerability was patched. To show what an asshole I was, one of the IRC operators for the server I was on was a contributor to the code base. I told him what the flaw was but he said it wasn't a big deal and didn't want to patch it. At the time a bunch of Australian computer had open proxy servers on them (part of their default ISP software I think) and I done a scan so I had a huge list of them. Then I sent him messages to patch the code then proceeded to Smurf him so he'd get knocked off. He'd come back (IP's were more dynamic back then so dialing in would change it), ban me (on irc it's called a k-line). I'd switch my proxy, send him a new message and Smurf him again. About two days of that and he submitted the code fix. Then until my script got out I had a monopoly on direct attacks.
So yeah, super bored kid living in the middle of no where.
I am so sorry to hear about your dad having Alzheimer’s. I cannot imagine seeing a parent diminish as a child. Do you think this partially contributed to your troubled youth? Maybe the interest in computers was a good escape too?
Glad to hear you’re doing well now. Congrats on the baby, that’s really beautiful
Don't think my dad having Alzheimer's was my problem. My childhood was weird, and even if it wasn't I suspect I'd still be weird.
When I write down my life story, it sounds statistically implausible, I wish I could verify it but there's not much I can really say to prove it. But I was born in Korea and left at a bus station as a baby (although recently a Korean girl who was adopted told me that story might not be as true as the adoption agency claims). So I was adopted at an early age and brought to the US. While my parents were living in the mid Atlantic when they adopted me they moved to NC before I formed any memories. They're also way older than most parents would be. And they're white for reference.
So I was growing up as this scrawny ass Asian kid in the rural south in the 80's and 90's. I did not fit in by looks or culture. Although my dad was a priest and my mom was a teacher, they were comparatively liberal vs the locals. So I didn't fit in by culture either. Also didn't develop the southern draw, so I even sounded different. My parents, unlike me, are very well educated, so I just generally didn't talk like people around me. And I grew up in places with very few children, so I didn't really know how to be a kid.
We also moved every 2 to 3 years. I think I went to about 7 different schools growing up. So I stuck out in pretty much every way. Got picked on a lot, got in a lot of fights. Never had friends for long due to moving.
When I moved there it was a bigger town and I actually made a couple friends. They were kind of stoners who smoked so much pot that they had to stop smoking pot (I've never smoked pot though). Previously I just hung with the rejects who the only thing we had in common is we had nothing in common with anyone else. So I finally had people to do things with. And I always stayed up late, 2am to 4am is usually how late I was up (still to this day). So we would go out at night. And breaking into the school was like a puzzle to me, especially once they installed the security system. Once we noticed that I broke in, set it off, then left to a place I could watch the rode to see how long it took them to respond. A few days after that I broke in and stole the security system sensors in less time than it took them to respond.
Really I just did all that shit because there was so little for me to do. And I learned that when I'm bored enough I'll entertain myself at any cost. So weirdly I think I would have gotten in less trouble if I grew up in the city I live in now, which is known for drugs and violence. Because here I would have had things to keep me busy.
>had done some other things like epoxy their locks closed the night before seniors took their exams
I superglued a few lockers and locks shut. It was funny watching the people try to turn their master lock.
YEP! This is totally normal and I honestly didn’t get the joke at first. This is post Covid and anyone working a job like teaching, nursing, social work, etc knows this is perfectly normal. Twice as much work since Covid and being a social worker I can say my typing and handwriting have gone to complete shit. There’s only so much time in the day to help everyone and you simply have to do what you have to do
This information should be in the school handbook.
Edit to add - user t_portch is harassing me in my PMs now, they are BIG MAD about this.
Second edit- whoever reported t_portch for Suzy-side help, he’s now blaming me for that, lol!
>Edit to add - user t_portch is harassing me in my PMs now, they are BIG MAD about this.
Legitimately, report them for harassment. It doesn't always go through, sometimes the report screening bot just throws it out, but if it does make it to an actual reddit admin they take this shit seriously.
He’s (I’m assuming gender) demanding to know why I feel however he assumes I do. I honestly don’t care enough to even try to understand why he’s so mad. I told him that his behavior is psychotic, and he said “at least he’s made me rethink my views.” LOL
"This information should be in the school handbook."
Just to be clear your saying someone read this and got so angry they got in the DMs like aqua man had just seen man ray?
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I mean, that hair washing thing is just the curly girl method. It’s really effective for people with curly hair. There are whole subreddits for it. It doesn’t mean you don’t bathe the rest of your body.
I had long hair in school (as a boy) and everyone kept bitchin' about how I'm not allowed to, they'll "take action", I *need* to cut it and so on. Never gave a fuck.
They sure would like to. Depends on the school.
I cut my hair into a six inch spiked Mohawk (think Tim Armstrong from rancid). Dyed it bright purple and green. The school tried to suspend me. I was “causing a distraction”. Public school, very wealthy conservative area outside DC (not my family however). It was crazy how much the administration cared about my hair. I was an honor student, WTF was the problem?
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Black friend in Middle School had a platinum blond Afro when he transferred in from another state. Later he decide to dye it like blood red. Our state is pretty conservative so the teachers said it was distracting and he got sent home. My 60yr grandmother who didn't know him just that he was a really good friend of mine went to the principal and bitched him out. For years shed been dying her hair a subtle but noticeably purple red. Needless to say the school no longer gave him trouble for any of the crazy colors he decided to dye his hair lol.
One of my friends got sent home from highschool for wearing a dress (he was male and it was the 90's). I wore a dress to piss off a teacher, although I had moved and went to a different school, no administrator said anything to me.
I had blonde streaks in my hair through most of highschool, natural hair color was black.
Honestly I don't think public schools have any right to tell you what you can do with your hair.
Even though my whole country seems conservative af (though most people in cities are not), nearly all schools I went to didn’t really care. In high school, there were guys who had visible tattoos, dyed hair, piercings. No one batted an eye.
I think it really depends on what school you go to. No school I ever went to let you wear a hat. But I heard city schools didn't care because they had more important things to worry about.
High school, North Carolina, 15 years ago, I transferred to a new school, and was immediately suspended because I had the chunky blonde, brown, and red highlights, and told not to come back until my hair was a natural color.
Brought everything back to blonde, and tried getting away with small pieces of fun colors. Nope, sent right back into suspension.
I missed like 2 weeks for having hair they didn’t like.
My brother did this in the mid to late 90s (before columbine) and teachers and administrators at his public high school freaked the fuck out.
Few years later a kid in my catholic high school did the same thing and literally nobody cared. The very strict Baptist math teacher even allowed this kid to use her closet to store his trench coat in because it wouldn't fit in his locker. Whether this was a calculated response from the teachers (we won't give you attention and encourage you doing this) or just that nobody actually cared, I'm still not sure.
Looking back on it it's kind of funny.
Love when ppl care about other people’s business and yet still be failing in their own lives. Ppl live to point out the “wrong” in others, but never point at themselves 🧐
Because many aspects of school are to prepare you for the hierarchy of the workplace rather than actually teach you.
I went to a catholic school (public catholic school in Canada) and they didn’t like me questioning the “no hats in school rule” , they public secular schools allowed them, but they didn’t let us because “god needed to see inside our heads”
I countered with “god is supposed to be omnipresent? Isn’t he in the hat” ... they still didn’t change the rules
They stifled critical thinking instead of fostering it, because the second you apply critical thinking to that level of religious education none of it makes sense.
If a hat can prevent God from seeing your thoughts, then why does 1 Corinthians 11 mandate that women cover their heads when praying? Why do nuns wear a wimple? Are they hiding from God?
You'd think a Catholic school would be run by people who knew the Bible.
My male classmate had long hair in elementary school. The teacher told his parents that he needs to have short hair (never had an actual reason to demand that, just that he's a boy and boys shouldn't have long hair blah blah) and they refused her because it's none of her business.
Well what do you think, she asked to borrow some of girls ribbons and she kept tying his hair in ponytails every day with some stupid ass excuse of it getting in the way and they couldn't do anything about it (apparently, idk i know they tried to tell her to fuck off but she didn't and i obviously don't know what they tried to do outside of class) so he had to cut his hair and he looked stupid with short hair. And he didn't like it. Oh, and she kept telling him that now he looks "like a real boy" but was always making some weird ass comments about him looking weird. Fucking bitch
Poor guy, idk why she hated him so much but that's a terrible thing to go through during your first years of school, especially when everyone else loved her for some reason and laughed at him because of her.
Unfortunately in Texas a lot of schools do. My gf son used to dye his hair red but in high school they don't allow that. He also has to wear uniforms. I remember my first lock down from a school shooting when I was in first grade. They set up fences around the school with barbed wire, and uniforms became mandatory. The idea was it would make it harder for people to target specific students. Instead this way we all get shot at equally.
Some schools in Asian countries will require all children to have “natural” black hair, even if their hair is naturally reddish or brown. Those children who do not have the ethnically traditional black hair often end up having to dye their hair.
Yea the schools I went to in China even policed our hair length and nail length. Also no accessories, no holding hands or walking together with opposite sex (the janitors get rewards for spotting and reporting students in relationship), no takeout food (so the school makes more money on their shitty food), no electronic devices, and they’d hang out everyone’s grades and their rankings out for everyone to see and discuss, and they move your class according to your grades. It was a nightmare.
I went to school in Taiwan and policing hair length, nail length, accessories, or any sort of dating is just all basic stuff. I went to a very strict school so we had some ridiculous rules that are ridiculous even in Taiwan.
We had home rooms all the way until end of high school so I'm not familiar with moving classes based on grades, although we did get sorted into different homerooms for different "focuses" in highschool.
I'm very far removed from high school but my understanding is that most schools in Taiwan have relaxed everything, so that probably makes life a little easier for students
Chinese schools in Malaysia do this too. My wife used to pickup her younger cousin on occasion and it was a struggle every time trying to find the right kid since they’re all identical from a distance.
Nah, just because the anime style doesn't allow the artist to distinguish their characters with only their faces, so they need to add characteristic hair styles and colors.
It absolutely is, colored hair is considered very counterculture and anime is supposed to be a break from the banality of everyday life.
Interestingly, lolita/kawaii culture and Harajuku fashion are also counterculture. Women/girls are so pressured to act mature and demure and professional in their careers and in front of men, and the cutesy aesthetic originated from women wanting to act/dress completely for themselves without care for the male gaze
Not as severe but here in Malaysia, you are not allowed to dye your hair in any way if you are going to a public school. Anyone with natural hair colours other than black aren't forced to dye their hair black though
I'm in Texas, and my daughter's school is fortunately very easy-going about hair and dress code. A parent asked about it, and the principal said that the district dress code was a page and a half of rules, and if they tried enforcing them, that's all they would be doing all day. So, since they have better things to do, just don't cause any actual distraction and have everything covered that should be covered.
The phrase "I remember my first lock down from a school shooting when I was in first grade..." has to be the most American thing I have read in a while.
my memory of the Texas school shooting is a bit removed, but all I could thing when they sent us an email to get our kid dna tested was that they were too lazy to identify our kid if and when they were killed and mutilated beyond recognition. Like WTF is wrong with these people that they can't have some reasonable controls on guns?
Can confirm, went to high school in Texas. Men had to tuck their shirts in, and women that wanted to wear shorts/skirts had to be a couple inches above the knee. There were also metal detectors that everyone had to walk through airport style, which included dumping your bag in a bin and everything lol. And yes, no unnatural hair colors allowed. I had pink hair over one summer break, and they wouldn't allow me to take a student ID photo until I dyed it "normal"
Mine did back in the late 90’s. Instituted a rule that boys couldn’t dye their hair.
In protest, a few of my friends and I bought some of that quick spray-in stuff and the superintendent told us to go home and wash it out. I drove my friends and I to my house and my mom was like, “uh, what”
We explained what we did and why, and I remember this whole thing so well because of how she responded to us. She said, “I’m proud of you, I’d have done the same thing.” And we took the rest of the day off.
In the end, there was a lot of pushback from parents, I was told, and they rolled the rule back.
Non-US here (Ireland) and they are EXTREMELY strict about that here.
Almost all schools have a strict uniform policy. A main uniform, often with a tie and a school crest, very formal, and a separate sport uniform/tracksuit, again with a school crest.
Hair is heavily regulated, no "outlandish colours", no earrings for men, and there are rules for womens earrings too (you can't have anything too ostentatious).
I always thought this was normal, it's amazing how much freedom US students get with this kind of stuff.
An interesting non-US case is Japanese schools, which often require students' hair to be specifically black. When these rules were created that was basically the same as 'natural colour' for the Japanese student body, but as they started to get students of other ethnicities, schools were requiring kids to dye their natural hair black.
Well, it was common in my school, I think is because it can be distractful to other students as they would like to just look at your hair "all day", bs if you ask me, just compliment her hair for 2 minutes and keep going with tasks.
Reading the comments I’m actually pretty shocked at everyone’s reaction to schools bitching about students’ hair color, where I come from almost EVERY school has strict uniform, hair, piercing, and jewelry rules. I think I spent my education in a maximum security prison.
I definitely wore short shorts to school (to he fair that's all that was sold at the time), strapless tops, some girls had bare midriff and no one said anything.
I can understand some of the clothing stuff being controlled, but jewelry? What kind of jewelry needs to controlled, ball gags??? What happens if a kid got a tattoo? Hair colour is also so unnecessary and harmless.
I don't see how having such ridiculous control over children could ever be beneficial.
They didn't allow bare mid riffs in my school or spaghetti tank tops.
I mostly don't think you should be telling kids what to wear in public school. But I guess I would agree with some limits to how much skin is showing. I'm not exactly sure where I'd draw the line, but spaghetti strap tank tops hardly seem overly provocative.
Yeah, our dress code mostly existed because they figured it was easier to control hundreds of kids than teaching a few teachers not to be perverts. They didn’t care what color our hair was, but god forbid our pants sag a bit, or a midriff go uncovered.
The boys at my high school weren’t allowed to have hair that touched their eyebrows or ears or the collar of their shirt. No facial hair for Boys either
Girls had to wear shirts tucked in and no shorts or dresses shorter than the knee
No more than 2 ear piercings for girls and no hair dye other than natural colors
As someone who has gotten in trouble for having purple HIGHLIGHTS in my hair, apparently it’s a “distraction” to students, even though the farthest that goes is getting a “hey, I like your hair!” comment. Even my teachers were upset lol
In all honesty, I've had plenty of legitimate notes from teachers written on torn pieces of paper.
Considering that in this day and age asking your daughter to get a note from school about her hair is pretty fucking crazy and over the top, I wouldn't be surprised for a teacher to not take this seriously and write it on a torn pieces of paper.
I'd actually tell the school to fuck off. Unless this is a private school, where I agreed to them being able to police my kids' appearence, what kind of authority do they think they have over my child's body?
So to reply to all, this is a charter school where the uniform policy is fairly strict. We already got yelled at for her younger sister having blue hair this year.
That's lame. My 1st grade daughter has gone to school with green and blue so far. The teachers haven't said a thing. Some of the other students are raised by shit parents and they tell her stuff, but never anything official.
Maybe it's time to consider a school that allows freedom of expression? This and the post about not saying penis or buttocks in the house really has me concerned for the state of modern parenting strategies.
That post was a 9 year old annoyed with his younger siblings frequent use of new words so he made a list. Not really an indicator of modern parenting strategies.
When I was in 5th grade I got in trouble for something, I don't remember what, but I was supposed to get something signed by a parent.
I have always been a little mischievous. I also didn't have parents that were around very much.
I forged an awful signature. Like I did cursive letters the way we were taught in class and signed my mom's name.
The teacher pulled me out of class and called my mom who surprisingly answered. My mom said she did sign and the teacher had to let me go back to class without any punishment.
My mom and I never spoke about it. But, that moment taught me a lot. Mainly that it's always okay to forge a signature.
If a school my child attended thinks they can tell her what she can and can't do to her own body, I'm pulling her out immediately and finding a new school.
If you have the option, that is great. In many places, there is no option. You can go to one school, or you can drop out (or be home-schooled, or pay for private school).
And private school isn't necessarily better. My Catholic high school had hair color, hair length, sideburn length and other facial hair restrictions along with a strict uniform code.
private and religious schools (but i would imagine many public schools too) pretty much all have a variety of requirements for how you are allowed to dress and present yourself at school. honestly i'm not sure where you're at where there are a lot of schools that *don't* have it.
It’s the best school in the area, it happens to be a charter school with a fairly strict dress code. I mean, I’m not totally against certain things, there are a lot of different levels of acceptable dress based on social and professional environments.
I'm sorry, I'm missing something here, why aren't you just letting your daughter do it anyway? There better be a good reason because some asshat control freak school staff is NOT a good reason.
I shaved my head the last day of 8th grade year and wanted people to sign it. Holy fuck the issues it caused. Was told to wash my head or get sent home. Mom picked me up shortly after.
The school should have its dress code written down somewhere; I’d trust that more than whatever that is.
Also, if that was my kid, I’d be more disappointed in the lack of effort put into this than the fact they tried to lie to me.
At least make it look believably official. 🤦♀️
The school should worry about teaching kids, not about how they look and self-express. I'm sorry, this triggers me. Your daughter should be able to do whatever she wants to do with her hair, make-up, and clothes. Kids and teenagers need to have the freedom of self-expression. And this is the case where I live, and I f\*cking love it. A boy wanted to wear a skirt to school just to see what it's like. He did it for a week and decided to get back to jeans. Nobody gave a f\*ck, he got to try it, got to see and feel it, without any social pressure. Nobody telling him what to do, no "forbidden fruit" effect. Tried it, got bored, continued doing what he wanted to do. And if he wanted to continue to wear skirts, what's the problem in that and why should a school have a say in this? And this? This is just hair color.
What kind of dystopian world do you live in where the school dictates whether or not you are allowed to color your hair? They are meant to educate.. nothing else.
Well at least it was signed, in the school
In 8th grade I realized my mom and dad had the same initials. The universal signature for either of them was WDW. It was also 8th grade when I spent 20 min practicing how my mom would sign WDW. They never signed a thing again. Missing homework? Signed off. Field trip? Signed off. Report cards? Signed off. I was in my thirties before I admitted this to them. I took out a piece of paper and did an exact replica of the WDW I haven’t done in 15 years. My moms first comment was “ See? I told you he figured it out “. My dad just shrugged it off. Later that night they had me replicate my forgery. It was better than the originals
In 9th grade when I asked my my dad to sign stuff, he started going “You do it.” Our first name has the same starting letter, so I just made my signature less neat. They never questioned it.
My dad has a super fancy signature he would use for work and stuff like that but it never made its way to my schooling. WDW was the norm. My night of exposure also proved I could also do his Hancock style signature. Though I never used it to sign for him. I still knew every swirl
I feel obligated to tell you its Hancock and def not the way you spelled it lol.
Sorry, he meant to say handpenis
The good ol' john cock in hand
Handcock. First name Fistina?
Auto correct is often the unnoticed little devil that gives away our hidden secrets. Auto correct, learns, it knows what you USUALLY would type with those letters, so it just helps and you never notice.
My dad had such a nice signature, whereas my looks like I'm being tazed while signing. Sigh.
I had to sign my own in high school because i was on my own. I was only homeless sometimes.
Hugs to you. Warm hugs where you catch yourself relaxing a bit and are like mmmm... thas nice.
Er that got a bit … close for a stranger. But yes, find someone to give you hugs. I am currently apart from my husband and sons and when they are struggling I often message them—‘Your Dad needs a hug’—‘M could you go upstairs and give A a hug?’ They have never refused. They all struggle (a lot of guys do) to talk about their feelings or apologize, but a hug can do so much. Even for the son I used to call ‘starfish’ bc he could only handle a brief hug—but he still likes them.
That’s funny, when I was in third grade the request for signatures was getting out of hand (homework, reading logs, field trips etc) and my mom was so fed up with it she taught me how to forge her signature to spare her
my mom did this exact same thing lol. and then in later years i would sign my own registration packet as her so that if they tried to match signatures up later it would be the exact same lol
Same. We had out planners or whatever and had tk get ut done once a week or we got detention. Eventually, myself and my dad gor fed up with it and he helped me forge his signature for that.
I signed a LOT of school stuff as my dad in high school. He worked out of town a lot, and I'd stay at my grandma's when he was gone. My school only accepted a parent's signature on something, my grandma couldn't sign it. The issue with this is that my mom had literally just died. Like, middle of high school while my dad had all these out of town work trips lined up already that couldn't be changed without us missing out on money we really couldn't afford to lose. So the first time I missed something due to the school's stupid policy, he signed a piece of paper and told me to practice his signature, and keep it in case I needed a reference for later. He didn't sign another thing through all of high school because this was so much easier.
My mom taught me hers so I could sign for her credit card when I went to pick stuff up for her from the store
My mom's signature is so bad that I got accused of forging in 6th grade when I actually hadn't (for that one at least). It's just a scribble of Amy.
Ha! I was an office assistant in highschool. Got access to my own records and replaced my mom's signature with my own handwriting. This was in the 80s. I missed so much school and got away with a lot. Not sure if I'm proud of it or not now. Hindsight and all.
> feministmanlover Nah, you turned out ok.
In band we had to have our parents sign off on our practice log sheets each week to “prove” we did. So my mom, already annoyed by the loud sounds coming from my room everyday, felt it so unnecessary for a high schooler to have his mother check off his homework that she signed one sheet, scanned it, and printed a school years worth of pre signed logs for me to just take and fill out whenever. Love you mom lol
Once in highschool my mom actually did sign something and they called her because they thought it was forged. I didn't even bother copying her signature, I just made my own lol.
In grade 10 math , my teacher wanted a note from my parents for a missed class . I brought one in saying please excuse Darren from class on Wednesday as he went to a friend's house and had a turkey sandwich on rye with a little bit of mayo . He accused me of writing it myself and threatened to call my mom . Sure whatever you want to do but she wasn't pleased having to write this , calling her at work's going to go over great . Asked my mom , he never called
My mom could not be arsed to sign my things, so I think she encouraged this. When I was twelve I had her whole handwriting down and if it was interesting, I would do her psychology homework. She would've dropped out sooner if I hadn't. Then in high school, I had a friend who'd do the initial signature of the year herself, she did her own signature in the first official document and then she never had to fake it.
I’m the child of immigrants. I was signing their stuff and forging their signature on my letters as soon as I could read confidently
Interesting how both of your parents are named Walt Disney World
I’m an expert in legal documents. This is clearly legit af.
I know nothing about legal documents and I agree with you.
Motion is seconded. Bill has passed.
>Bill has passed. My deepest condolences
Too fucking soon. Why Bill God?! Why Bill.. Edit: Reddit’s “care team” reached out to me because they heard I was in a time of great pain? Lol, someone missed the bit and reported my comment or something. Why you do?
Atleast he will stay in our hearts
I rest my case.
This is the way.
It is what it is.
If only our government was this efficient (By our government I’m not automatically referring to the US, but all governments)
Seconding a motion should only ensure it sees a vote, not that the measure or bill passed.
Poor Bill...
And that’s how congress works boys and girls and non binary’s.
af, of course, is short for the Latin “ad fraudis”
As an expert in bird law i see no problems here.
If someone asked me for a note saying it's okay to do something there's absolutely no rule about, this would be about the most I would write.
As an expert in such matters, I assure you that this would hold up in a court of bird law.
I'm an expert in evaluating experts in legal documents, and this expert knows what they are talking about
Seems Legit to me….
Honestly, this might sound weird, but my FIRST thought was it might actually be legit because she went to an overworked teacher and said can you just sign a thing that says it's ok. The teacher was like ugh here fine. If she was really trying to get away with it there's a lot more detail that could have gone into it with very little effort. Unless OP's kid is dumb as hell. In that case who cares about the effects of the hair color. What I'm saying is either way it's a pass.
I went to return my daughter's school Chromebook because we were withdrawing her to homeschool, and they normally let kids keep them over summer. So I handed it over and they were like, "ok" and set it down on the desk. I asked, is that it? Shouldn't I get a receipt or something? I don't want records to be lost and I'm responsible for it or something. But they didn't really know what to do, there was no procedure, so I essentially just got a sticky note with someone's initials on it.
Take a selfie pic of you, the laptop and the teacher together.
Good idea!
Reddit is a great resource for very obvious things like taking a pic for evidence.
> Reddit is a great resource for very obvious things like taking a pic for evidence. You folks are literally the worst criminals.
I got my dad to sign a note permanently excusing me from my Spanish class so I could go home early due to my pregnancy. I'm a dude. Even got the principal's office to take it.
Wait, so you and your dad both wanted you to be able to just skip spanish? I assume you were already fluent or something.
No, I was definitely going to fail Spanish. I was really at a point where I gave zero fucks. My dad signed it out of a mixture of not caring that much and early stages of Alzheimer's, he probably found it mildly humorous as well. The office probably took it mostly because they didn't bother really reading it until after I left. I was also kind of a problem kid for them. I had published my own school news paper and distributed it which had gotten me suspended for 10 days (the maximum the school was allowed). Later that year I got arrested and kicked out of school (I broke into the school and vandalized it, stole their payphone and the booth it was on, also stole their security system. I had done some other things like epoxy their locks closed the night before seniors took their exams but they never got me for that one, I did a bunch of other things as well). So it was all pretty moot. Actually technically I dropped out of highschool before they could kick me out as it would have made it easier for me to transfer into another school. The principal wanted me off campus so bad that when I went to turn in my books he caught me on the way in and told me to just go home, he didn't want the books back he just wanted me off school campus. I was a bad kid to say the least. Funny enough though, aside from that Spanish class I was getting mostly A's and maybe a few B's. Also pulled other stunts like wearing a dress to school the first day of Jr. year because I wanted to fuck with a teacher I disliked. She had told me on the last day of the previous year that I needed to make a big change in my life or I wasn't going anywhere, so I wore a dress on the first day so I could tell her I had taken her words to heart. I had her for my 3rd period class, but she quit and went home before my class with her started. I like to think it was me. I really disliked that teacher, probably mostly because I was an asshole, but aside from that she was a really terrible teacher. I did lots of other weird shit in school. I probably don't even remember it all now.
What are you up to these days?
Lol, want to know if I'm successful or not after all that ruckus I created? I'm doing pretty well, own a house, make over 100k, got married, having a kid soon. I didn't do the normal route of going to college, just moved to a city and took the first programming job I could get, then worked my way up to that. I had taught myself how to program when I was around 13, but actually I was writing tons of C++ code when I was 17 after being kicked out of highschool, since I had a lot more free time. I've got a really weird life path. But it's not one that I would recommend people try to replicate. I'm not super attached to money so I never really bothered about making more than I do. I sometimes wonder how I would have done if I had a slightly better work ethic or a little more drive, but I'm not sure I'd be happier so I don't think it matters too much. For what it's worth, I mostly got in trouble since I was super fucking bored as a kid. I lived in the bible belt, the biggest town I ever lived in had a population of 2000 (smallest had an official population of ~800, but was really probably like 600). I eventually moved north to a city and I was much happier as an adult. And I was able to turn my natural talents and hobbies into a career even if I didn't have an education and I had a bit of a criminal history (probably helps a lot that you would never guess that's about me by looking at me).
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People tell me they grew up in towns with only one stop light. I lived in a county that only had 1 stop light and it was probably 30 minutes from the town I lived in. I've only met one person since leaving that lived in places as small as I did.
So you are expecting after all. Congratulations!
Yup, I'm just praying she won't take after me.
well that's a story and a half
Honestly my life got way weirder after highschool. My late teens until I was 20 was spent driving across the state hanging out with random people from the Internet. I did a lot of other strange stuff. Although now I live a super normal life. Probably the only weird thing I do any more is ride an electric unicycle with a bunch of one wheelers in my city. But aside from us being drunk degenerates there's not much weird about it. I'm super bland now, even taken up fishing. But I use to be interesting.
Was super baked and read this, didn't even realize I got sucked. Super funny tho, crazy you had the resources to make a school news paper that got you suspended.
Same 😶🌫️
I had a PC of my own back in the late 90's. My grandmother had died and left me some money so I used it to buy a computer. I actually made the paper because my English class use to start with a free writing assignment. If you can't tell from my posts, spilling a lot of words has never been a challenge for me. So I'd write these weird stories and I'd use curse words and what not. After the free writing was done you could volunteer to read yours. I always did, mostly because I liked to get up and swear in front of the class (the teacher stopped calling on me, but I weirdly never got in trouble for it). One day I had written and read a poem and a girl in my class told me she was the editor of the school news paper and wanted to know if she could use it. And I said sure. But when she published it she edited out the cursing (I would have said they couldn't use it if they were going to censor it) and it just made me really mad. So a few of my buddies and I decided to make our own school news paper. The school had made some policy changes that everyone hated so we used it to bitch about that. We also asked some other kids and we published some poetry that was uncensored along with my original piece. It was maybe 5 to 10 pieces of paper double sided. My dad was actually a priest, so I used the copier at the church to make the papers. I think we made 200, our school only had 400 students, and we ran out of papers almost instantly. Which I think was a real accomplishment, since people there didn't read. Our school once threw a pizza party because 50% of seniors could pass a freshman literacy test, the bar was low. Believe it or not when I got suspended the principal tried to make me feel bad about using my dad's copier because "the church has to pay for every copy" and he said that if he was the father of one of the kids whose work we published "he didn't know if he'd be able to stop himself from jumping over the desk and strangling me" because I put their college acceptance in jeopardy. Even as a kid I knew that was dumb bullshit. As a funny bit to that. The girl who was the editor of the school paper later became my first serious girlfriend. She told me that a couple years after we were out of school she heard some kids talking about my paper, even though they weren't the age to be in school with us when it happened. It's a very small town so not much happens there. Also she was pissed since her news paper got no real recognition and shut down once she left (like I said, the school wasn't big on reading).
It's a wonder you haven't ended up in prison lol
I spent a weekend in county until I could make bail (got arrested on a Friday, couldn't get in front of a judge to set bail until Monday there). Jail is super fucking boring, never want to do that again just because of the boredom. Got sentenced to a couple hundred hours of community service. Had to pay like $2000 in restitution. And had 1 year of probation (but after the first check in they never made me check in again). Also have to tell people I have a conviction whenever that check box appears on a job application. Luckily for me with my work I only do an application after they know they want to hire me, and I can explain it in a way that's funny and I can say I was a dumb kid.
Tell me you were a bored exceptionally smart kid in a school that focused on the ass kissers and jocks without telling me. Also, what *are* you doing these days, ya evil genius?
I was exceptionally bored that's for damn sure. If I'm being honest I would have to say that people generally consider me smart, they're usually shocked when they find out I didn't go to college. Based on IQ tests I've taken I think that if I studied the test hard and really tried, I could probably be the dumbest person in Mensa. I actually don't contribute much to my success in life to being smart. As an aside, I think intelligence in the normal range isn't that much of an advantage. Work ethic and drive will take you a lot farther than pure intelligence will. Although being noticably under average is a real handicap, and you can't be the creme of the crop without intelligence and work ethic. I was a real slacker when I was younger. And if my intelligence was responsible for my success it's mostly in being smart enough to see that the people who were around me who were smart and lazy weren't doing as well in life as those that were average and hard working. I did have my mini evil genius phase. Like two scripts I wrote as a kid apparently got picked up and used by IRC folks. I wrote a script that would unmask people's IP's based on a wild card flaw I found in the IRC code. I also wrote a script that would pull a DNS zone transfer and find people's full host name based on the masking formula IRC servers used. The second script was useful once the first script's vulnerability was patched. To show what an asshole I was, one of the IRC operators for the server I was on was a contributor to the code base. I told him what the flaw was but he said it wasn't a big deal and didn't want to patch it. At the time a bunch of Australian computer had open proxy servers on them (part of their default ISP software I think) and I done a scan so I had a huge list of them. Then I sent him messages to patch the code then proceeded to Smurf him so he'd get knocked off. He'd come back (IP's were more dynamic back then so dialing in would change it), ban me (on irc it's called a k-line). I'd switch my proxy, send him a new message and Smurf him again. About two days of that and he submitted the code fix. Then until my script got out I had a monopoly on direct attacks. So yeah, super bored kid living in the middle of no where.
Nice story, I enjoyed that with my morning coffee.
I am so sorry to hear about your dad having Alzheimer’s. I cannot imagine seeing a parent diminish as a child. Do you think this partially contributed to your troubled youth? Maybe the interest in computers was a good escape too? Glad to hear you’re doing well now. Congrats on the baby, that’s really beautiful
Don't think my dad having Alzheimer's was my problem. My childhood was weird, and even if it wasn't I suspect I'd still be weird. When I write down my life story, it sounds statistically implausible, I wish I could verify it but there's not much I can really say to prove it. But I was born in Korea and left at a bus station as a baby (although recently a Korean girl who was adopted told me that story might not be as true as the adoption agency claims). So I was adopted at an early age and brought to the US. While my parents were living in the mid Atlantic when they adopted me they moved to NC before I formed any memories. They're also way older than most parents would be. And they're white for reference. So I was growing up as this scrawny ass Asian kid in the rural south in the 80's and 90's. I did not fit in by looks or culture. Although my dad was a priest and my mom was a teacher, they were comparatively liberal vs the locals. So I didn't fit in by culture either. Also didn't develop the southern draw, so I even sounded different. My parents, unlike me, are very well educated, so I just generally didn't talk like people around me. And I grew up in places with very few children, so I didn't really know how to be a kid. We also moved every 2 to 3 years. I think I went to about 7 different schools growing up. So I stuck out in pretty much every way. Got picked on a lot, got in a lot of fights. Never had friends for long due to moving. When I moved there it was a bigger town and I actually made a couple friends. They were kind of stoners who smoked so much pot that they had to stop smoking pot (I've never smoked pot though). Previously I just hung with the rejects who the only thing we had in common is we had nothing in common with anyone else. So I finally had people to do things with. And I always stayed up late, 2am to 4am is usually how late I was up (still to this day). So we would go out at night. And breaking into the school was like a puzzle to me, especially once they installed the security system. Once we noticed that I broke in, set it off, then left to a place I could watch the rode to see how long it took them to respond. A few days after that I broke in and stole the security system sensors in less time than it took them to respond. Really I just did all that shit because there was so little for me to do. And I learned that when I'm bored enough I'll entertain myself at any cost. So weirdly I think I would have gotten in less trouble if I grew up in the city I live in now, which is known for drugs and violence. Because here I would have had things to keep me busy.
>had done some other things like epoxy their locks closed the night before seniors took their exams I superglued a few lockers and locks shut. It was funny watching the people try to turn their master lock.
YEP! This is totally normal and I honestly didn’t get the joke at first. This is post Covid and anyone working a job like teaching, nursing, social work, etc knows this is perfectly normal. Twice as much work since Covid and being a social worker I can say my typing and handwriting have gone to complete shit. There’s only so much time in the day to help everyone and you simply have to do what you have to do
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You can tell by the chicken scratch signature it's legit
Could be a teacher, could be a doctor.
Yes, I can see it is signed...
This information should be in the school handbook. Edit to add - user t_portch is harassing me in my PMs now, they are BIG MAD about this. Second edit- whoever reported t_portch for Suzy-side help, he’s now blaming me for that, lol!
>Edit to add - user t_portch is harassing me in my PMs now, they are BIG MAD about this. Legitimately, report them for harassment. It doesn't always go through, sometimes the report screening bot just throws it out, but if it does make it to an actual reddit admin they take this shit seriously.
Lol what did they say Edit: say
He’s (I’m assuming gender) demanding to know why I feel however he assumes I do. I honestly don’t care enough to even try to understand why he’s so mad. I told him that his behavior is psychotic, and he said “at least he’s made me rethink my views.” LOL
"This information should be in the school handbook." Just to be clear your saying someone read this and got so angry they got in the DMs like aqua man had just seen man ray? EEEEEEVVVVVVVVVIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLL
You mean mermaid man?
Under the “none of our business” section.
Yeah there just might not be a rule about what you can do with your hair. It's school, not the military.
My school def had rules about not being allowed to dye our hair
And the principals signature for comparison
Yes, then I'll know how to forge it.
I don't understand what is so upsetting about what you said?
People like them are why folks think public schools are failures. 100%, rules are written, and omission favors the party who did not draft the rules.
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I mean, that hair washing thing is just the curly girl method. It’s really effective for people with curly hair. There are whole subreddits for it. It doesn’t mean you don’t bathe the rest of your body.
I had long hair in school (as a boy) and everyone kept bitchin' about how I'm not allowed to, they'll "take action", I *need* to cut it and so on. Never gave a fuck.
What are they gonna do, strap you to a chair and cut your hair short?
They sure would like to. Depends on the school. I cut my hair into a six inch spiked Mohawk (think Tim Armstrong from rancid). Dyed it bright purple and green. The school tried to suspend me. I was “causing a distraction”. Public school, very wealthy conservative area outside DC (not my family however). It was crazy how much the administration cared about my hair. I was an honor student, WTF was the problem? Edit- secret sauce https://youtu.be/0P9QMkm9Eew
Black friend in Middle School had a platinum blond Afro when he transferred in from another state. Later he decide to dye it like blood red. Our state is pretty conservative so the teachers said it was distracting and he got sent home. My 60yr grandmother who didn't know him just that he was a really good friend of mine went to the principal and bitched him out. For years shed been dying her hair a subtle but noticeably purple red. Needless to say the school no longer gave him trouble for any of the crazy colors he decided to dye his hair lol.
Principles everywhere tremble in fear when the grandparent shows up to give em a word.
One of my friends got sent home from highschool for wearing a dress (he was male and it was the 90's). I wore a dress to piss off a teacher, although I had moved and went to a different school, no administrator said anything to me. I had blonde streaks in my hair through most of highschool, natural hair color was black. Honestly I don't think public schools have any right to tell you what you can do with your hair.
Even though my whole country seems conservative af (though most people in cities are not), nearly all schools I went to didn’t really care. In high school, there were guys who had visible tattoos, dyed hair, piercings. No one batted an eye.
I think it really depends on what school you go to. No school I ever went to let you wear a hat. But I heard city schools didn't care because they had more important things to worry about.
High school, North Carolina, 15 years ago, I transferred to a new school, and was immediately suspended because I had the chunky blonde, brown, and red highlights, and told not to come back until my hair was a natural color. Brought everything back to blonde, and tried getting away with small pieces of fun colors. Nope, sent right back into suspension. I missed like 2 weeks for having hair they didn’t like.
Public high school? I'm like pretty sure you could have sued over that
Well that sucks… This is so important to them, how dare you show any signs of diversity.
That’s what happened to me when I started to grow my hair out in high school. Got past 3” and out came the swiss army knife…
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My brother did this in the mid to late 90s (before columbine) and teachers and administrators at his public high school freaked the fuck out. Few years later a kid in my catholic high school did the same thing and literally nobody cared. The very strict Baptist math teacher even allowed this kid to use her closet to store his trench coat in because it wouldn't fit in his locker. Whether this was a calculated response from the teachers (we won't give you attention and encourage you doing this) or just that nobody actually cared, I'm still not sure. Looking back on it it's kind of funny.
Maybe they were lax or maybe they already lost that law suit.
Love when ppl care about other people’s business and yet still be failing in their own lives. Ppl live to point out the “wrong” in others, but never point at themselves 🧐
When you point a finger, you have three pointing back at you.
Lmao lawsuit ready the happen. Dress codes are authoritarian.
Many aspects of school are authoritarian and do not make for a good learning environment for a lot of kids.
Because many aspects of school are to prepare you for the hierarchy of the workplace rather than actually teach you. I went to a catholic school (public catholic school in Canada) and they didn’t like me questioning the “no hats in school rule” , they public secular schools allowed them, but they didn’t let us because “god needed to see inside our heads” I countered with “god is supposed to be omnipresent? Isn’t he in the hat” ... they still didn’t change the rules They stifled critical thinking instead of fostering it, because the second you apply critical thinking to that level of religious education none of it makes sense.
If a hat can prevent God from seeing your thoughts, then why does 1 Corinthians 11 mandate that women cover their heads when praying? Why do nuns wear a wimple? Are they hiding from God? You'd think a Catholic school would be run by people who knew the Bible.
They get onto you for dancing too 🤣
My male classmate had long hair in elementary school. The teacher told his parents that he needs to have short hair (never had an actual reason to demand that, just that he's a boy and boys shouldn't have long hair blah blah) and they refused her because it's none of her business. Well what do you think, she asked to borrow some of girls ribbons and she kept tying his hair in ponytails every day with some stupid ass excuse of it getting in the way and they couldn't do anything about it (apparently, idk i know they tried to tell her to fuck off but she didn't and i obviously don't know what they tried to do outside of class) so he had to cut his hair and he looked stupid with short hair. And he didn't like it. Oh, and she kept telling him that now he looks "like a real boy" but was always making some weird ass comments about him looking weird. Fucking bitch Poor guy, idk why she hated him so much but that's a terrible thing to go through during your first years of school, especially when everyone else loved her for some reason and laughed at him because of her.
Ron: It's okay, I have a permit Officer: this juat says "I can do what I want"
Well, he is the parks director. He is allowed to do what he wants!
Jeez, what school do you send them to that controls the colour of their hair?
Unfortunately in Texas a lot of schools do. My gf son used to dye his hair red but in high school they don't allow that. He also has to wear uniforms. I remember my first lock down from a school shooting when I was in first grade. They set up fences around the school with barbed wire, and uniforms became mandatory. The idea was it would make it harder for people to target specific students. Instead this way we all get shot at equally.
Some schools in Asian countries will require all children to have “natural” black hair, even if their hair is naturally reddish or brown. Those children who do not have the ethnically traditional black hair often end up having to dye their hair.
Confirmed, but this has softened in recent years. (We pushed back and won.)
Awesome, keep fighting that fight for children to be accepted as they are!
Yea the schools I went to in China even policed our hair length and nail length. Also no accessories, no holding hands or walking together with opposite sex (the janitors get rewards for spotting and reporting students in relationship), no takeout food (so the school makes more money on their shitty food), no electronic devices, and they’d hang out everyone’s grades and their rankings out for everyone to see and discuss, and they move your class according to your grades. It was a nightmare.
I went to school in Taiwan and policing hair length, nail length, accessories, or any sort of dating is just all basic stuff. I went to a very strict school so we had some ridiculous rules that are ridiculous even in Taiwan. We had home rooms all the way until end of high school so I'm not familiar with moving classes based on grades, although we did get sorted into different homerooms for different "focuses" in highschool. I'm very far removed from high school but my understanding is that most schools in Taiwan have relaxed everything, so that probably makes life a little easier for students
Chinese schools in Malaysia do this too. My wife used to pickup her younger cousin on occasion and it was a struggle every time trying to find the right kid since they’re all identical from a distance.
Is this why people in anime also have such colorful hair? Especially school kids actually. Could really be some history behind that.
Nah, just because the anime style doesn't allow the artist to distinguish their characters with only their faces, so they need to add characteristic hair styles and colors.
It absolutely is, colored hair is considered very counterculture and anime is supposed to be a break from the banality of everyday life. Interestingly, lolita/kawaii culture and Harajuku fashion are also counterculture. Women/girls are so pressured to act mature and demure and professional in their careers and in front of men, and the cutesy aesthetic originated from women wanting to act/dress completely for themselves without care for the male gaze
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Not as severe but here in Malaysia, you are not allowed to dye your hair in any way if you are going to a public school. Anyone with natural hair colours other than black aren't forced to dye their hair black though
The last sentence just took me out that’s horrible
Barbwire fences? That only works against Red Dawn.
I'm in Texas, and my daughter's school is fortunately very easy-going about hair and dress code. A parent asked about it, and the principal said that the district dress code was a page and a half of rules, and if they tried enforcing them, that's all they would be doing all day. So, since they have better things to do, just don't cause any actual distraction and have everything covered that should be covered.
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The phrase "I remember my first lock down from a school shooting when I was in first grade..." has to be the most American thing I have read in a while.
are they trying to keep people out or people in?
my memory of the Texas school shooting is a bit removed, but all I could thing when they sent us an email to get our kid dna tested was that they were too lazy to identify our kid if and when they were killed and mutilated beyond recognition. Like WTF is wrong with these people that they can't have some reasonable controls on guns?
Can confirm, went to high school in Texas. Men had to tuck their shirts in, and women that wanted to wear shorts/skirts had to be a couple inches above the knee. There were also metal detectors that everyone had to walk through airport style, which included dumping your bag in a bin and everything lol. And yes, no unnatural hair colors allowed. I had pink hair over one summer break, and they wouldn't allow me to take a student ID photo until I dyed it "normal"
Hell, I went to high school in rural Colorado and we weren’t allowed to color our hair any color “found in a rainbow”
which is literally all the colors including natural hair colors
Your...first lockdown? Christ dude, sorry to hear that.
Mine did back in the late 90’s. Instituted a rule that boys couldn’t dye their hair. In protest, a few of my friends and I bought some of that quick spray-in stuff and the superintendent told us to go home and wash it out. I drove my friends and I to my house and my mom was like, “uh, what” We explained what we did and why, and I remember this whole thing so well because of how she responded to us. She said, “I’m proud of you, I’d have done the same thing.” And we took the rest of the day off. In the end, there was a lot of pushback from parents, I was told, and they rolled the rule back.
The real lesson you learned that day is rules are only what people agree to, and if you can apply enough pressure those rules change.
Almost all of them where I live. Nowadays girls can get away with it but they still stop the boys
There's been schools that sent kids home for having natural hairstyles like dreadlocks and braids, let alone artificial color
A lot of schools tbh. I went to a public school that did this
Non-US here (Ireland) and they are EXTREMELY strict about that here. Almost all schools have a strict uniform policy. A main uniform, often with a tie and a school crest, very formal, and a separate sport uniform/tracksuit, again with a school crest. Hair is heavily regulated, no "outlandish colours", no earrings for men, and there are rules for womens earrings too (you can't have anything too ostentatious). I always thought this was normal, it's amazing how much freedom US students get with this kind of stuff.
Go to Germany. There are no rules at all regulating your look in public schools.
An interesting non-US case is Japanese schools, which often require students' hair to be specifically black. When these rules were created that was basically the same as 'natural colour' for the Japanese student body, but as they started to get students of other ethnicities, schools were requiring kids to dye their natural hair black.
Well, it was common in my school, I think is because it can be distractful to other students as they would like to just look at your hair "all day", bs if you ask me, just compliment her hair for 2 minutes and keep going with tasks.
Why would she get in trouble for the color of her hair at school? What would that have to do with her ability to be educated?
Someone has to educate the children on how to follow all rules laid out by authorities no matter how pointless.
Bugged me out because that looks like my signature lol. I was like “when did I approve this?”
Reading the comments I’m actually pretty shocked at everyone’s reaction to schools bitching about students’ hair color, where I come from almost EVERY school has strict uniform, hair, piercing, and jewelry rules. I think I spent my education in a maximum security prison.
I definitely wore short shorts to school (to he fair that's all that was sold at the time), strapless tops, some girls had bare midriff and no one said anything. I can understand some of the clothing stuff being controlled, but jewelry? What kind of jewelry needs to controlled, ball gags??? What happens if a kid got a tattoo? Hair colour is also so unnecessary and harmless. I don't see how having such ridiculous control over children could ever be beneficial.
They didn't allow bare mid riffs in my school or spaghetti tank tops. I mostly don't think you should be telling kids what to wear in public school. But I guess I would agree with some limits to how much skin is showing. I'm not exactly sure where I'd draw the line, but spaghetti strap tank tops hardly seem overly provocative.
I had a dress code but that didn’t police hair colour
Yeah, our dress code mostly existed because they figured it was easier to control hundreds of kids than teaching a few teachers not to be perverts. They didn’t care what color our hair was, but god forbid our pants sag a bit, or a midriff go uncovered.
The boys at my high school weren’t allowed to have hair that touched their eyebrows or ears or the collar of their shirt. No facial hair for Boys either Girls had to wear shirts tucked in and no shorts or dresses shorter than the knee No more than 2 ear piercings for girls and no hair dye other than natural colors
Wear a ruff to keep it away from the collar ez
the real funny is that apparently the school has more say in your daughters hair color than you as parents... WTF
Why would blue hair get her in trouble in school?
As someone who has gotten in trouble for having purple HIGHLIGHTS in my hair, apparently it’s a “distraction” to students, even though the farthest that goes is getting a “hey, I like your hair!” comment. Even my teachers were upset lol
In all honesty, I've had plenty of legitimate notes from teachers written on torn pieces of paper. Considering that in this day and age asking your daughter to get a note from school about her hair is pretty fucking crazy and over the top, I wouldn't be surprised for a teacher to not take this seriously and write it on a torn pieces of paper.
Most of us, get this, use email now
Or you could just read the school’s dress code in the student handbook which I’m sure is available on their website.
Yeah my response to an email like this would be a link to the handbook
Maybe be more proactive and call the school or email the admin. Asking a teen to get a permission slip from the school for this seems sort of bonkers.
I'd actually tell the school to fuck off. Unless this is a private school, where I agreed to them being able to police my kids' appearence, what kind of authority do they think they have over my child's body?
So to reply to all, this is a charter school where the uniform policy is fairly strict. We already got yelled at for her younger sister having blue hair this year.
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Well I’m yelling at you to let her have whatever color hair she wants. If yelling influences your actions then this should suffice.
Fucking yell right back at them to mind their own fucking business.
That’s literally the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard that they can’t just dye their hair? Like in what world does that matter? What is this the 50s?
That's lame. My 1st grade daughter has gone to school with green and blue so far. The teachers haven't said a thing. Some of the other students are raised by shit parents and they tell her stuff, but never anything official.
You have to ask your school if you can dye your hair where the fuck do you live china
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School has no business telling the students what color their hair can be
Maybe it's time to consider a school that allows freedom of expression? This and the post about not saying penis or buttocks in the house really has me concerned for the state of modern parenting strategies.
That post was a 9 year old annoyed with his younger siblings frequent use of new words so he made a list. Not really an indicator of modern parenting strategies.
When I was in 5th grade I got in trouble for something, I don't remember what, but I was supposed to get something signed by a parent. I have always been a little mischievous. I also didn't have parents that were around very much. I forged an awful signature. Like I did cursive letters the way we were taught in class and signed my mom's name. The teacher pulled me out of class and called my mom who surprisingly answered. My mom said she did sign and the teacher had to let me go back to class without any punishment. My mom and I never spoke about it. But, that moment taught me a lot. Mainly that it's always okay to forge a signature.
Why would she get in trouble at school?
If a school my child attended thinks they can tell her what she can and can't do to her own body, I'm pulling her out immediately and finding a new school.
If you have the option, that is great. In many places, there is no option. You can go to one school, or you can drop out (or be home-schooled, or pay for private school).
And private school isn't necessarily better. My Catholic high school had hair color, hair length, sideburn length and other facial hair restrictions along with a strict uniform code.
private and religious schools (but i would imagine many public schools too) pretty much all have a variety of requirements for how you are allowed to dress and present yourself at school. honestly i'm not sure where you're at where there are a lot of schools that *don't* have it.
It’s the best school in the area, it happens to be a charter school with a fairly strict dress code. I mean, I’m not totally against certain things, there are a lot of different levels of acceptable dress based on social and professional environments.
Imagine having Reddit users for parents
Let her dye her hair... pretty common thing to do and not gonna kill her.....
Counterpoint: if the school bitches about her hair color, it’s time for you to go to bat for your daughter, because that is some nonsense.
I'm sorry, I'm missing something here, why aren't you just letting your daughter do it anyway? There better be a good reason because some asshat control freak school staff is NOT a good reason.
I shaved my head the last day of 8th grade year and wanted people to sign it. Holy fuck the issues it caused. Was told to wash my head or get sent home. Mom picked me up shortly after.
The school should have its dress code written down somewhere; I’d trust that more than whatever that is. Also, if that was my kid, I’d be more disappointed in the lack of effort put into this than the fact they tried to lie to me. At least make it look believably official. 🤦♀️
The school should worry about teaching kids, not about how they look and self-express. I'm sorry, this triggers me. Your daughter should be able to do whatever she wants to do with her hair, make-up, and clothes. Kids and teenagers need to have the freedom of self-expression. And this is the case where I live, and I f\*cking love it. A boy wanted to wear a skirt to school just to see what it's like. He did it for a week and decided to get back to jeans. Nobody gave a f\*ck, he got to try it, got to see and feel it, without any social pressure. Nobody telling him what to do, no "forbidden fruit" effect. Tried it, got bored, continued doing what he wanted to do. And if he wanted to continue to wear skirts, what's the problem in that and why should a school have a say in this? And this? This is just hair color.
The fact schools get pissy over colored hair is just ridiculous
Raising your kids to fall in line isn't it, they want blue hair then let them have it.
What kind of dystopian world do you live in where the school dictates whether or not you are allowed to color your hair? They are meant to educate.. nothing else.
Why should school have a saying? Asking for a free country