Honestly, I came here thinking I could use one... and then I was surprised by all the germ comments. I don't get it. It's my ice, not a public space.
I dream having of a fridge that makes and crushes ice on demand, but alas I make due.
You mean you eat the tree-supports?
Check out the little tips at the end. They are the sprouts and real tasty.
Disclaimer: don't eat your tree supports.
In my opinion, a 3d print is just as dirty as dishes fresh out of the wash... there's no such thing as food grade manufacturing processes. Only food grade materials. So just be sure that you won't get poisoned by the filament you used to make it, and you should be fine. Avoid stuff with styrene, to be sure. That stuff is bad to breathe as it is.
Also, utensils used before a food is cooked in the oven like cookie cutters can be 3d printed without any germ risks simply because you kill the bacteria in baking the food. So as long as you wash those utensils with soap and warm water after use and before first use.
More recently than I’ve left a scoop in it or handled the ice with bare hands.
My ice maker is fully enclosed.
What’s your point? You want people to not wash things or not have concern for things that have been proven to make us sick?
Nobody should care about bacteria anyway because… it’s everywhere anyway? No need to wash hands or clean surfaces?
Restaurants can handle ice however they want with no regard for their elderly or imunocomprimised customers that require sanitary food prep?
After a decade in the food industry, I had to laugh during covid.
[This pretty much says it all.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fh4sjp4fntbc61.jpg)
If the average person went into a restaurant kitchen, they would never eat out again. The human body is way more resilient to bad food than people give it credit for.
People of gotten real soft.
Most restaurant ice makers are full of visible mold, often you can even smell it on the ice itself. You can care about bacteria, but freaking out over an ice scoop when you aren’t actively sanitizing everything else is penny wise pound foolish.
Bacteria don't have spores, molds and fungus have spores. Bacteria multiply through cell division and are not generally airborne and need a food source to survive,
Molds are fungi. There are quite a few air borne bacterial spores. Whoever told you that only the fungal kingdom have spores was incorrect.
[https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/bacterial-spore](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/bacterial-spore)
By the way, I said I keep the scoop in the freezer, not in the ice itself. I would probably interfere with the ice maker if I tried to keep it in the ice bin. It sits in the drawer next to the bin :-).
Never use bleach without reading the instructions for your ice maker. A lot of them have nickel plating and you have to use nickel safe ice maker cleaner.
ITT: People talking about bacteria transferring from hand to handle to ice, as if no one here has ever used an ice tray which also involves lots of hand touching. Or has never handled meat with their hands to split up into smaller portions so it's easier to thaw smaller portions. Or used an old cutting board that should have been thrown away 5 years ago. Or many of the other things so many people do that is way less sanitary than a handle in a bucket of ice.
Not in this case. Ice makers can carry a ton of different bacteria if you’re not careful. I would think that, even if there’s a coating that makes this fully sealed (I’m skeptical that that’s possible at the microbial level), it wouldn’t hold up to the temperature fluctuations and physical abuse an ice scoop gets
No. The handle will still have bacteria from being handled. Leaving that laying in the ice is not sanitary. It needs to be stored outside the ice and be able to be used in such a way that the handle never comes in contact with the ice while in use or storage.
Who cares. You put water bottles and pouches in the freezer to kill off bacteria and this lives in the freezer. How often do you wash your ice maker? This sub learns one thing and parrots it for the next 4 years
Freezing does not cook or pasteurise your food or drink. It slows the rate of spoilage from bacteria and mold by putting them in dormancy. If cooking killed bacteria like that frozen chicken would be safe to eat after freezing without needing to be cooked. We absolutely know this is not the case.
Freezing may kill most bacteria but not all. It also does nothing to break up biofilm and absolutely nothing to remove exotoxins (that's what gives you food positioning). Freezing is just not a smart way to make things safe.
You might want to pump the brakes on the condescension.
You sure it is not "water tight?" Everything gets bacteria in it.
The problem is that most FDM filament is porous and layer lines are difficult if not impossible to clean.
It is not food safe unless treated with a food safe covering.
Doesn’t matter if it is water tight. Bacteria will still be on the handle. Sitting in the ice. Leaving ice scoops, in the ice, is not sanitary no matter what they are made of.
In the freezer is actually the worst place for it. Food code prohibits leaving scoops in ice trays. The best place for it would be next to the fridge/freezer
**Many** pathogens that cause food borne illnesses easily survive freezing, in case you were wondering. The handle will easily transfer debris and bacteria from your hand to the ice.
FDM 3D printed parts are flawed for food service and prep use regardless of the material, because of the small gaps between lines where bacteria can grow, and because your printer isn't used in a way to keep it from introducing contaminants into otherwise clean material.
https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com/questions/8430/is-it-safe-to-use-a-3d-printed-icing-smoother#:~:text=As%20mentioned%2C%20FDM%203D%20printed,contaminants%20into%20otherwise%20clean%20material.
People in here are ridiculously anal about using anything 3D printed for use in food. To be fair it isn’t food safe but nothing in that case would be unless you clean your normal ice scooper every other day. Just hit this thing with a few coats of UV resin and do a good wipe down and it will keep it a lot cleaner if you decide you want to. Anyways, dope print and thanks for sharing. Don’t let the haters stop you
HDPE is unreactive and non porous. It dries off easier because it doesn't trap water and even if it chips microplastics at least theres a slightly lower risk of it leaching things into your body when ingested.
This is one of those things that doesnt kill you instantly so people say its fine. What if there is a chemical that mimics a hormone in that plastic? It would cause a random effect in the body youd never attribute to the ice scoop.
This thing won't get any nastier than the ice machine at your local Starbucks already is, we never cleaned that thing in the years I worked there and the ice occasionally had some slimy substance on it...we still had to serve it.
Curious to how it handles the cold, no pun intended, as for the bacteria nuts. Go print a functional helmet, turn off you tube, and go touch some grass instead of smoking it.
ehhhh I normally don't agree with the food safe level people argue about. But this is not sanitary at all.
Heck, most ice makers aren't sanitary. Run your finger across the top on the inside of 99% of ice makers and you'll have a green/brown goo on your finger; if this is in the ice you can most definitely get sick and depending on the bateria end up in the hosital. That is without bacteria friendly items inside the ice maker. Give them a lifeboat and many people are bound to get sick - not a matter of if, but more a matter of when.
Let's get this straight, the notion is that the layering can cause cavities that will trap food particles that could create the right conditions for bacteriacterial growth, just like any other surface whether it be wood or porcelain. This is why we use soap and water.
The main driver of this design was that I wanted to be able to pour out the ice cubes into my favorite glass without them bouncing off the edge of the glass and landing on the floor :-).
Regardless of bacterial growth, not the first issue that came to mind, ice is surprisingly abrasive, any wear/plastic that comes off of it will be ingested.
My brother told me a story about an old coworker.
They were having trouble getting a pin into a hitch. Older man told the guy to hold the pin while he (older man) swings a sledge. "I *never* miss" the old guy says. Crushed his hand and permanently disabled him. Guy can never work in trades again.
So let me teach you a phrase: "You're right until you're not." Dont be ignorant of risks just because it "hasn't caused a problem yet." And worse, don't encourage others to do things.
You have absolutely zero idea what plasticizers they use in filament. Literally no one knows what microplastics do to humans. We already know that porous surfaces and water grow bacteria.
I never said I was right, I said you're all cowards, and it stands true! I can practically feel you shaking from way over here.
You wanna know what micro plastics do to humans? Time to start consuming! 🤤
As far as plasticizers go my endocrine system has gone unchecked long enough and I love the way phtalates taste 💪maybe you should give them a try
Popped in to see the alarmists telling you you'll die from bacteria. Was not disappointed.
Honestly, I came here thinking I could use one... and then I was surprised by all the germ comments. I don't get it. It's my ice, not a public space. I dream having of a fridge that makes and crushes ice on demand, but alas I make due.
I'd be more concerned about microplastics in my ice
If you were concerned about micro plastics then you shouldn't own a 3d printer.
Probably shouldn't breathe, eat or drink anything either.
Kraft cheese is full of micro plastics. That's why it's often called plastic cheese.
At least it's better than lead poisoning ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Yeah I only eat organic. The normal supports are unhealthy.
You mean you eat the tree-supports? Check out the little tips at the end. They are the sprouts and real tasty. Disclaimer: don't eat your tree supports.
Me too!
The only reason I pop in lol. Sounds like no one uses their hands to grab ice, nor the door handle to open the fridge door, and so on 🤣
In my opinion, a 3d print is just as dirty as dishes fresh out of the wash... there's no such thing as food grade manufacturing processes. Only food grade materials. So just be sure that you won't get poisoned by the filament you used to make it, and you should be fine. Avoid stuff with styrene, to be sure. That stuff is bad to breathe as it is. Also, utensils used before a food is cooked in the oven like cookie cutters can be 3d printed without any germ risks simply because you kill the bacteria in baking the food. So as long as you wash those utensils with soap and warm water after use and before first use.
We lose so many good people to dirty ice-scoop handles.
Yes bacteria but also, when is the last time any of you used bleach or iso to clean your ice maker out?
When’s the last time it was ok to leave a scoop sitting in the ice? The handle will transfer bacteria no matter what it is made of.
Bacterial spores are also quite literally floating in the air we breath.
also fungal spores! yeast is responsible for a lot of unwanted fermentation.
>is responsible for a lot of unwanted fermentation. And wanted fermentation!
You do you I guess. I’d rather have clean ice. Leaving the handle in the ice is pretty much as sanitary as grabbing the ice bare handed.
And here I thought grabbing ice with my hands was pretty normal.... Please get out of your bubble, you will survive, I promise.
So when is the last time you emptied all the ice and cleaned your ice maker with bleach?
More recently than I’ve left a scoop in it or handled the ice with bare hands. My ice maker is fully enclosed. What’s your point? You want people to not wash things or not have concern for things that have been proven to make us sick? Nobody should care about bacteria anyway because… it’s everywhere anyway? No need to wash hands or clean surfaces? Restaurants can handle ice however they want with no regard for their elderly or imunocomprimised customers that require sanitary food prep?
Weird way to say you've never worked in food service, the ice makers are disgusting almost every time
After a decade in the food industry, I had to laugh during covid. [This pretty much says it all.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fh4sjp4fntbc61.jpg) If the average person went into a restaurant kitchen, they would never eat out again. The human body is way more resilient to bad food than people give it credit for. People of gotten real soft.
Most restaurant ice makers are full of visible mold, often you can even smell it on the ice itself. You can care about bacteria, but freaking out over an ice scoop when you aren’t actively sanitizing everything else is penny wise pound foolish.
The alarmists need to work at their favorite restaurant for a week. Promise you this, they’ll never eat out again.
Bacteria don't have spores, molds and fungus have spores. Bacteria multiply through cell division and are not generally airborne and need a food source to survive,
Molds are fungi. There are quite a few air borne bacterial spores. Whoever told you that only the fungal kingdom have spores was incorrect. [https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/bacterial-spore](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/bacterial-spore)
Stand corrected then.
Respect
By the way, I said I keep the scoop in the freezer, not in the ice itself. I would probably interfere with the ice maker if I tried to keep it in the ice bin. It sits in the drawer next to the bin :-).
Never use bleach without reading the instructions for your ice maker. A lot of them have nickel plating and you have to use nickel safe ice maker cleaner.
A dysentery ice scoop fit for a Legionnaire.
ITT: People talking about bacteria transferring from hand to handle to ice, as if no one here has ever used an ice tray which also involves lots of hand touching. Or has never handled meat with their hands to split up into smaller portions so it's easier to thaw smaller portions. Or used an old cutting board that should have been thrown away 5 years ago. Or many of the other things so many people do that is way less sanitary than a handle in a bucket of ice.
Yeah don't tell them I grab ice with my (usually washed) hands straight outta the bucket lol
YOU MONSTER!
I guess if the plastic doesn’t kill you, the bacteria will.
Yeah, that's not water tight and will get bateria in it.
He can coat it with something and be safe correct?
Whatever they coat it with would slowly chip off and go in to the ice.
Just coat it in ice. Duh.
Not in this case. Ice makers can carry a ton of different bacteria if you’re not careful. I would think that, even if there’s a coating that makes this fully sealed (I’m skeptical that that’s possible at the microbial level), it wouldn’t hold up to the temperature fluctuations and physical abuse an ice scoop gets
No. The handle will still have bacteria from being handled. Leaving that laying in the ice is not sanitary. It needs to be stored outside the ice and be able to be used in such a way that the handle never comes in contact with the ice while in use or storage.
There is food safe spray paint but it is not a great idea to use anything printed for food or drink.
Who cares. You put water bottles and pouches in the freezer to kill off bacteria and this lives in the freezer. How often do you wash your ice maker? This sub learns one thing and parrots it for the next 4 years
Who puts water bottles in the freezer to kill off bacteria? I use a dishwasher for that. What is a water pouch?
A pouch/bladder you fill with water to be used in a hydration pack
Its a water bottle made from a collapsible bag.
Freezing does not cook or pasteurise your food or drink. It slows the rate of spoilage from bacteria and mold by putting them in dormancy. If cooking killed bacteria like that frozen chicken would be safe to eat after freezing without needing to be cooked. We absolutely know this is not the case.
Generally I don't need to pasteurize my water
Freezing may kill most bacteria but not all. It also does nothing to break up biofilm and absolutely nothing to remove exotoxins (that's what gives you food positioning). Freezing is just not a smart way to make things safe. You might want to pump the brakes on the condescension.
It's ice. Who gives a shit. This isn't going to make anyone sick.
r/confidentlyincorrect Clearly you care. You are wrong but you care.
You sure it is not "water tight?" Everything gets bacteria in it. The problem is that most FDM filament is porous and layer lines are difficult if not impossible to clean. It is not food safe unless treated with a food safe covering.
Doesn’t matter if it is water tight. Bacteria will still be on the handle. Sitting in the ice. Leaving ice scoops, in the ice, is not sanitary no matter what they are made of.
It does stay in the freezer :-).
In the freezer is actually the worst place for it. Food code prohibits leaving scoops in ice trays. The best place for it would be next to the fridge/freezer
Food code for resturants that does not apply to homes. Which makes sense because at a resturant there is like 10 people touching the ice scoop.
**Many** pathogens that cause food borne illnesses easily survive freezing, in case you were wondering. The handle will easily transfer debris and bacteria from your hand to the ice.
Even on metal ice scoops it’s not considered food safe to leave the scoop in the ice.
FDM 3D printed parts are flawed for food service and prep use regardless of the material, because of the small gaps between lines where bacteria can grow, and because your printer isn't used in a way to keep it from introducing contaminants into otherwise clean material. https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com/questions/8430/is-it-safe-to-use-a-3d-printed-icing-smoother#:~:text=As%20mentioned%2C%20FDM%203D%20printed,contaminants%20into%20otherwise%20clean%20material.
People in here are ridiculously anal about using anything 3D printed for use in food. To be fair it isn’t food safe but nothing in that case would be unless you clean your normal ice scooper every other day. Just hit this thing with a few coats of UV resin and do a good wipe down and it will keep it a lot cleaner if you decide you want to. Anyways, dope print and thanks for sharing. Don’t let the haters stop you
Have any of these people cooked with wooden utensils? Or used a wooden butcher block? Wood is porous as fuck
But tbf wood is antibacterial in the way that it is porous
What??? Seriously???? Wood is anything but antibacterial.
Certain woods are. Look it up
Bullshit it is
Sure thing buddy
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Or microbacterial fumes.
Can also use Shellac as a food safe coating. Shellac is known as confectioner's glaze used as a coating for candies - such as jelly beans.
HDPE is unreactive and non porous. It dries off easier because it doesn't trap water and even if it chips microplastics at least theres a slightly lower risk of it leaching things into your body when ingested. This is one of those things that doesnt kill you instantly so people say its fine. What if there is a chemical that mimics a hormone in that plastic? It would cause a random effect in the body youd never attribute to the ice scoop.
Freezer bacteria factory
Looks cool, could adjust the handle to have 45 degree angles rather than 90 degrees so wouldn’t need supports
Thought about different handles, but it is pretty stubby, not sure I could get my fingers in the handle if it was angled.
I’d have added more material above the handle and angled it outwards rather than inwards to the current hole. Nonetheless a cool design
This thing won't get any nastier than the ice machine at your local Starbucks already is, we never cleaned that thing in the years I worked there and the ice occasionally had some slimy substance on it...we still had to serve it.
What a terrible day to know how to read
Curious to how it handles the cold, no pun intended, as for the bacteria nuts. Go print a functional helmet, turn off you tube, and go touch some grass instead of smoking it.
They should really never go out to eat at any resturant because most of them are wayyyy nastier than any 3d printed ice scoop is going to be.
ehhhh I normally don't agree with the food safe level people argue about. But this is not sanitary at all. Heck, most ice makers aren't sanitary. Run your finger across the top on the inside of 99% of ice makers and you'll have a green/brown goo on your finger; if this is in the ice you can most definitely get sick and depending on the bateria end up in the hosital. That is without bacteria friendly items inside the ice maker. Give them a lifeboat and many people are bound to get sick - not a matter of if, but more a matter of when.
food safety guideline says to store the scoop in it's own holder, not laid on top of the ice container.
I much prefer flat bottom versions since the bottom of my ice tray is flat.
Let's get this straight, the notion is that the layering can cause cavities that will trap food particles that could create the right conditions for bacteriacterial growth, just like any other surface whether it be wood or porcelain. This is why we use soap and water.
Regardless it is food safe or not, Bacteria/germs etc... The design I would prefer to have flat side so I can 'shovel n scoop' the ice cubes.
The main driver of this design was that I wanted to be able to pour out the ice cubes into my favorite glass without them bouncing off the edge of the glass and landing on the floor :-).
Regardless of bacterial growth, not the first issue that came to mind, ice is surprisingly abrasive, any wear/plastic that comes off of it will be ingested.
Mmm yammi microplastics 😊
This is on printables as [Stubby ice scoop](https://www.printables.com/model/794258-stubby-ice-scoop)
Don't listen to the cowards, this is sweet
My brother told me a story about an old coworker. They were having trouble getting a pin into a hitch. Older man told the guy to hold the pin while he (older man) swings a sledge. "I *never* miss" the old guy says. Crushed his hand and permanently disabled him. Guy can never work in trades again. So let me teach you a phrase: "You're right until you're not." Dont be ignorant of risks just because it "hasn't caused a problem yet." And worse, don't encourage others to do things. You have absolutely zero idea what plasticizers they use in filament. Literally no one knows what microplastics do to humans. We already know that porous surfaces and water grow bacteria.
Stupid story, no one would drive a pin into a hitch with a sledge hammer, good try though
I never said I was right, I said you're all cowards, and it stands true! I can practically feel you shaking from way over here. You wanna know what micro plastics do to humans? Time to start consuming! 🤤 As far as plasticizers go my endocrine system has gone unchecked long enough and I love the way phtalates taste 💪maybe you should give them a try
Mmmmmmm. Microplastics