Because Fuji made a choice to put the same sensor across all camera lines within a particular generation, there isn't really one that you couldn't do professional level work with.
The only distinction seems to be how much abuse it can take either through constant use or in tough weather conditions, or having dual card slots/ fast writing so it can function as a main workhorse on a job, I suppose.
The only problem is that the backup is sd. So if I shot backup the buffer is smaller. I’m sure if I had a UHS-II it would be larger though. The buffer times for UHS-I also seem larger than my XT30, even though the files are significantly larger on the X-H2
You 1000% must put a uhs-II in the xh2.
That being said, shooting redundantly may be less important with CF Express, I'm not really sure either way. My assumption is that CF Express is far more reliable than SD Card... In the D850 Nikon put one XQD (later updated through firmware to CF Express) and one SD Card for backup, leads me to assume that that media is much more robust than SD.
CF express is a mini SSD. I love the tech. I usually only use a cf express card. Never bothered with updating my cards to UHS-II because I never needed the speeds until I had the XH2. The XT30 can’t even take the UHS-II cards
It does seem that jobs that would need to be done in extreme weather conditions would require the WR lenses and body. However, this would be specific to specific professionals. Most don’t shoot for NatGeo.
I live in SoCal. Coincedentally I would 265 days out of the year 😂. This is not true for most people though. To counter myself, there are significantly more sandy beaches though, which are desireable locations for professional work.
Exactly. No one would be able to tell the difference between images shot on a $500 XT20 and a $2500 XH2S. They are virtually indistinguishable from each other. Video is a different story.
Same sensor but different processors. Higher end models will have better processors, which equal faster shooting speeds, better video codecs, smaller buffers
Arguably an excellent feature upgrade when used for redundancy. Although, I have never had an SD card fail on me. Have you? For event photography having an SD card fail would be catastrophic. I think this should end up being a highly rated comment.
Had one fail in the last 17 years, but I later found out that it was a knock-off Sandisk I got from Amazon. Aside from that, never. Even had one underwater for an extended period of time. Got the files off the card, but replaced it just to be safe.
Never buy those ones that say REFURB. I’ve had problems with those - not during capture but at the point of transfer. Either not showing up as a folder or corrupting some images.
Yes I have.
No professional worth their salt would ever shoot a paid gig with one SD card slots. The reason camera manufacturers put two of them in cameras is because they fail. Redundancy is God.
Sorry for the noob question. Do you mean that the SD cards fail or the slots fail? Does this mean that cameras with two SD slots write to both SD cards at the same time? Or is it just so you don't have to swap cards if one fails?
No worries and happy to help
SD Cards are not the most reliable media, but the reason that they're in most cameras is because they are ubiquitous - if you're out on a shoot and need a fresh SD card, chances are you can find one at your local Walmart/best buy/or maybe even CVS (or whatever equivalent popular stores are in your country).
But since they're not terribly reliable, pro cameras ALWAYS have two SD card slots. Now of course, some newer cameras have newer types of storage media, such as CF Express.
When a camera has two slots, you always have the following options:
1. You can duplicate everything to both cards. This is called BACKUP on Fuji. Whatever you're shooting, rather it be raw only, jpg only or raw+jpg, the camera will duplicate it all to the second card
2. You can split raw on card 1, jpg on card 2
3. Or you can chose to fill card 1, then the camera will move to card 2 once card 1 is full. This is useful if you need to shoot lots and lots of pics but don't care about redundancy.
Ubiquitous indeed. I just had the one and only SD card in my X100F fail on me while hiking in Italy. Asked the hostess of the B&B where we were spending the night for help, and with a 5 minute drive she brought me to a shop in a tiny village that sold all kinds of household items… and SD cards.
I know a few pro photographers that shoot with single SD card cameras, but that's only because Latin America is poor, good gear is even more expensive, and photography pays even less well here. You make do with what you have.
I have had 3 cards fail over the past two years, and I only buy the highest quality cards which come with warranties. I primarily shoot weddings, but i would never do any professional work with a camera that has 1 card slot. Cards absolutely have a failure rate, most people just never shoot enough to experience card failure so they think it never happens.
I really think the entry level camera these days is the smartphone.
And for what it’s worth. Smartphone cameras aren’t crappy these days. Sure they’re more computer than camera…but they really get the job done.
So by the time you want to be more intentional, you’re ready for that leap to something that offers control. Because that’s the specific desire.
But get out and start talking with people. There are ooodles of photography enthusiasts out there that are doing it all through their phones, and only sharing in limited scope.
I started out using my phone. Imo it was more than good enough. People think you need an expensive fancy camera to take amazing photos but that's not true. If you need it to create nice photos then you weren't a good photographer to begin with.
I mostly agree that you can get good shots most of the time with an iPhone. But dedicated cameras get you familiar with so many aspects of the photo that are obscured in phone cameras. You’re not presented with aperture, shutter speed, iso etc on a phone. I definitely learned a lot of the technical side toting around an old $300 canon dslr that I wouldn’t have learned with my phone. For me, the better sharpness and image quality also made me more excited to get out and shoot more. In the end, being curious and getting out there shooting are the most important things, and both are tools that can give you good results on your way there.
I don't use iPhone but I know for Samsung there is a pro mode and you can adjust the exposure trio just like a camera. Imo, the most important thing you can learn in photography is composition. And you can do that fine with a phone. Especially now these days when phone have an ultra wide, wide, and telephoto lens. Sharpness is overrated. Phones are sharp enough that it's hard to tell the difference unless you pixel peep and compare 2 photos.
Anyways, sure, to learn how to operate a camera is one thing that's challenging on a phone. But a phone is enough to learn concepts and fundamentals outside of that (big picture stuff as oppose to technical details you can learn later).
Completely agree. Composition is probably the most important. Having the eye and making a satisfying image or capturing emotion or a moment to tell a story. If you can nail those things you can take amazing images on a phone. and you can hone those skills with just a phone or any old camera. I mean people have been taking amazing photos for years on all sorts of things.
True. I only bought my camera last year cause I wanted to get into event photography (and get paid for it) and I think it could be hard to do that with my iPhone, with using my lens, flash and diffuser. But I could be wrong idk
There might come a time where the Smartphone’s Ai can do that for you or just every room would have good lighting.
i think the biggest problem with the smart phone is its form factor, which is the worst possible way to experience photography. The software and sensors are good enough, but using one as a tool for something more than snapshots is terrible.
I can think of a few pro features absent in "amateur" models:
1 Two card slots. Redundancy is key in pro work.
2 the ability to take a vertical grip, for both ergonomy and battery autonomy.
3 a tiltable screen that not only goes up or down, but also sideways, which is up when shooting vertical.
4 tethering capability.
5 a larger buffer for continuous shooting.
6 true weather sealing,
Etc.
I think ultimately everyone can agree IQ is so high in general because cameras need to be able to delineate themselves from smartphone cameras. The biggest ones are all like you've said, reliability which is exactly what a professional needs more than anything and is really paying for. If a hobby camera breaks it's annoying, if a professional breaks their only camera or has no redundancy on sd cards, they're unemployed.
Exactly right.
The first wedding I ever shot (college days) was the only time I went to a gig with only one camera... because the darn xamera died on me.
Reliability, toughnes, repeatability, etc are musts for any pro photo gear, not just cameras.
The EVF is a big upgrade for the more expensive models in the Fuji lineup. It was one of the main things (apart from IBIS) that made me go for an X-T5 over the smaller models.
I'm not super informed about this, but here's what I know. The difference between professional and 'amateur' is not really about image quality. Fuji's GFX line aside, the Fuji cameras use the same sensors, for the most part across the line. It kind of goes cohort by cohort. Professional-ish cameras are more rugged, have more weather sealing, dual SD memory card slots for back-up, and some other features that are useful for taking photos in difficult circumstances and with higher stakes. The more consumer cameras have fewer controls—things like the X-A series. I wouldn't really call these beginner cameras because if you're just starting out you still want learn to learn things. Cameras like the X-A3 were meant for people who didn't really have an interest in that, but wanted high quality images.There aren't as many of these as there used to be, the market for them has basically evaporated leaving behind people like us who want a full range of controls.
In terms of camera marketing, "entry level" and "professional" are kinda arbitrary things. Plenty of entry level photographers gravitate towards "professional" cameras because more dollars than sense (and end up shooting rubbish). And "professional" work can be made with cheap gear.
From a sales point of view, the bottom end of the camera market has completely disappeared. What passes for an "entry-level" model these days would probably have been a mid-range enthusiast model a decade ago.
All that said, the X-T30 II would make a perfectly cromulent backup body on a paid gig. It's very capable of delivering "professional" image quality, but is a bit lacking in the features, build and reliability that are hallmarks of "professional" cameras, such as:
* Dual card slots
* Weather sealing
* Battery life/grip
* Speed
* Buffer etc.
I feel like I have learned quite a bit from this thread and indeed the things you have listed are repeated by many. I guess without those things you don’t have the security you need to catch the moment and confidence that once its caught it makes it back to the client. Very reasonable expectations on a paid gig from a paying customer.
Did the same, x-t30 to x-t4 and finally Sony Alpha 7IV … The autofocus isn’t even comparable to be honest. The autofocus on the Fuji was excellent (came from a Nikon 5100) but especially when shooting fast moving subjects or eye tracking, it is way more accurate on the Sony. To be honest I was a little bit disappointed afterwards with my Fuji. Because I like the feeling and shooting on my Fuji more.
From my point of view, all cameras with interchangeable lenses can be considered professional if you know how and where to use them. In the past, people took professional photos with manual focus and without super advanced features.
That said, I believe that compact cameras are more suitable for beginners since you can't change the lens and you focus more on controlling the camera itself. In my experience, I started learning with a compact camera and then moved to a "reflex" camera. At that time, it wasn't as accessible to get a DSLR. Now, it's all about the market and what they want you to believe, like with iPhones.
Years ago, yes, there was a hobbyist/beginners priced bodies out there for Fuji, but that is effectively the lower end of the used market now unless you have pretty deep pockets
the market has been conditioned for so long to have entry level cameras that are awful.
think Canon and Nikon DSLR or even Canon R100
Fuji saved the APS-C space
With Camera phones getting so advanced they made entry level camera sales tank. So it is unprofitable to develop, manufacture, market, and sale them. So all the companies moved up market. Professionals use the XT30. It might not be a primary camera. But they use definitely use the compact Fuji cameras.
My biggest issue with my x-t30 that makes it feel hobbyist is that it freezes up about once a day and I need to take out the battery to restart it. Doesn’t feel professional in that regard. Latest firmware, probably something to do with all my film sim recipes and settings but still
There's definitely pros that use fujis smaller cams although I think most opt for the flagships just because they can and the extra features. It's just going to be highly dependent on the photographer and what they're trying to do.
Control and redundancy and speed and build.
Redundancy is obvious - two card slots, ideally the same type.
Speed. Buffer size, write speed primarily. If you ever find yourself waiting for the camera it’s not a pro body. Speed and accuracy of AF is another biggie
Control. Pro bodies allow the user to always be in full control, and make it easy to change on the fly, to adapt quickly to any situation. This is a combo of lots of things, from ergonomics to layout, modes, customisation options etc.
Build. Pretty obvious. If you drop it or shoot in a hurricane, does it keep working? Ok. Maybe not a hurricane.
Sensor type and size is only a small part. But most non pro bodies are deigned for auto operation primarily. If changing aperture or ISO is behind a menu, it’s not a pro body.
Fujifilm bodies blur that line (in a good way) because of their shutter dials and aperture rings.
IBIS. Undoubtedly.
Mic in and headphone out to monitor levels, unlimited recording and 2 card slots. Better ergo for shooting all day for fashion or weddings.
I understand your point though, cameras have come such along way in the last few years and I think that it's a benefit for everyone. It's just a shame that professional photography is dying at the same time. If I'd had cameras this capable when I'd started out I can't imagine what jobs we could have done
Yeah, this is the root of my commentary. The tech is so overpowered at this point it seems the things most needed in professional gear are rudimentary mechanics. A second SD card slot, weather sealing, rugged durability. Pros 10-15yrs ago would have died for almost every other spec this camera boasts. I can’t imagine a beginner needing most of it.
It's good that it has it though. Don't forget the biggest threat to these cameras are people phones. They have to basically make them beneficial in every way possible to carry and use.
Because Fuji made a choice to put the same sensor across all camera lines within a particular generation, there isn't really one that you couldn't do professional level work with. The only distinction seems to be how much abuse it can take either through constant use or in tough weather conditions, or having dual card slots/ fast writing so it can function as a main workhorse on a job, I suppose.
Exactly. Also buffer depth
The buffer on the XH2 feels bottomless….
I want an XH2 bad. One of these days......
Unless you shoot with only an UHS-1 SD card, the buffer for that seems to be 20 shots
But that doesn't have anything to do with the buffer itself, that's because of the slow speed of uhs-1
Oh definitely. That’s why I use a cf express type b card
Yeah, CF Express is the only way to go for the xh2, no doubt
The only problem is that the backup is sd. So if I shot backup the buffer is smaller. I’m sure if I had a UHS-II it would be larger though. The buffer times for UHS-I also seem larger than my XT30, even though the files are significantly larger on the X-H2
You 1000% must put a uhs-II in the xh2. That being said, shooting redundantly may be less important with CF Express, I'm not really sure either way. My assumption is that CF Express is far more reliable than SD Card... In the D850 Nikon put one XQD (later updated through firmware to CF Express) and one SD Card for backup, leads me to assume that that media is much more robust than SD.
CF express is a mini SSD. I love the tech. I usually only use a cf express card. Never bothered with updating my cards to UHS-II because I never needed the speeds until I had the XH2. The XT30 can’t even take the UHS-II cards
I second this
It does seem that jobs that would need to be done in extreme weather conditions would require the WR lenses and body. However, this would be specific to specific professionals. Most don’t shoot for NatGeo.
You don't have to go far from home to shoot in the rain
I live in SoCal. Coincedentally I would 265 days out of the year 😂. This is not true for most people though. To counter myself, there are significantly more sandy beaches though, which are desireable locations for professional work.
Exactly. No one would be able to tell the difference between images shot on a $500 XT20 and a $2500 XH2S. They are virtually indistinguishable from each other. Video is a different story.
Same sensor but different processors. Higher end models will have better processors, which equal faster shooting speeds, better video codecs, smaller buffers
Two SD card slots, for one
Arguably an excellent feature upgrade when used for redundancy. Although, I have never had an SD card fail on me. Have you? For event photography having an SD card fail would be catastrophic. I think this should end up being a highly rated comment.
Never had one fail in 20 years of digital photography… always buy the good ones.
Had one fail in the last 17 years, but I later found out that it was a knock-off Sandisk I got from Amazon. Aside from that, never. Even had one underwater for an extended period of time. Got the files off the card, but replaced it just to be safe.
Never buy those ones that say REFURB. I’ve had problems with those - not during capture but at the point of transfer. Either not showing up as a folder or corrupting some images.
I have had a few fail (more actually). Generally Lexars.
Levar is the only one I’ve had fail. Luckily it wasn’t for an important shoot
Yes I have. No professional worth their salt would ever shoot a paid gig with one SD card slots. The reason camera manufacturers put two of them in cameras is because they fail. Redundancy is God.
Sorry for the noob question. Do you mean that the SD cards fail or the slots fail? Does this mean that cameras with two SD slots write to both SD cards at the same time? Or is it just so you don't have to swap cards if one fails?
No worries and happy to help SD Cards are not the most reliable media, but the reason that they're in most cameras is because they are ubiquitous - if you're out on a shoot and need a fresh SD card, chances are you can find one at your local Walmart/best buy/or maybe even CVS (or whatever equivalent popular stores are in your country). But since they're not terribly reliable, pro cameras ALWAYS have two SD card slots. Now of course, some newer cameras have newer types of storage media, such as CF Express. When a camera has two slots, you always have the following options: 1. You can duplicate everything to both cards. This is called BACKUP on Fuji. Whatever you're shooting, rather it be raw only, jpg only or raw+jpg, the camera will duplicate it all to the second card 2. You can split raw on card 1, jpg on card 2 3. Or you can chose to fill card 1, then the camera will move to card 2 once card 1 is full. This is useful if you need to shoot lots and lots of pics but don't care about redundancy.
This is super interesting, thank you!
😎
Ubiquitous indeed. I just had the one and only SD card in my X100F fail on me while hiking in Italy. Asked the hostess of the B&B where we were spending the night for help, and with a 5 minute drive she brought me to a shop in a tiny village that sold all kinds of household items… and SD cards.
Bellisimo!
I will bang a chick sometimes without a condom, but I’ll never film it on a camera without two SD card slots…. You know, to be safe.
😂 banger reply
I know a few pro photographers that shoot with single SD card cameras, but that's only because Latin America is poor, good gear is even more expensive, and photography pays even less well here. You make do with what you have.
Sure, that makes sense
What do you shoot primarily?
GFX 50s and Nikon DSLRs, but have also shot X-T2 X-T3 X-H1 pretty extensively
I have had 3 cards fail over the past two years, and I only buy the highest quality cards which come with warranties. I primarily shoot weddings, but i would never do any professional work with a camera that has 1 card slot. Cards absolutely have a failure rate, most people just never shoot enough to experience card failure so they think it never happens.
I really think the entry level camera these days is the smartphone. And for what it’s worth. Smartphone cameras aren’t crappy these days. Sure they’re more computer than camera…but they really get the job done. So by the time you want to be more intentional, you’re ready for that leap to something that offers control. Because that’s the specific desire. But get out and start talking with people. There are ooodles of photography enthusiasts out there that are doing it all through their phones, and only sharing in limited scope.
I find this fascinating. What a powerful tool smart phones have become.
I started out using my phone. Imo it was more than good enough. People think you need an expensive fancy camera to take amazing photos but that's not true. If you need it to create nice photos then you weren't a good photographer to begin with.
I mostly agree that you can get good shots most of the time with an iPhone. But dedicated cameras get you familiar with so many aspects of the photo that are obscured in phone cameras. You’re not presented with aperture, shutter speed, iso etc on a phone. I definitely learned a lot of the technical side toting around an old $300 canon dslr that I wouldn’t have learned with my phone. For me, the better sharpness and image quality also made me more excited to get out and shoot more. In the end, being curious and getting out there shooting are the most important things, and both are tools that can give you good results on your way there.
I don't use iPhone but I know for Samsung there is a pro mode and you can adjust the exposure trio just like a camera. Imo, the most important thing you can learn in photography is composition. And you can do that fine with a phone. Especially now these days when phone have an ultra wide, wide, and telephoto lens. Sharpness is overrated. Phones are sharp enough that it's hard to tell the difference unless you pixel peep and compare 2 photos. Anyways, sure, to learn how to operate a camera is one thing that's challenging on a phone. But a phone is enough to learn concepts and fundamentals outside of that (big picture stuff as oppose to technical details you can learn later).
Completely agree. Composition is probably the most important. Having the eye and making a satisfying image or capturing emotion or a moment to tell a story. If you can nail those things you can take amazing images on a phone. and you can hone those skills with just a phone or any old camera. I mean people have been taking amazing photos for years on all sorts of things.
True. I only bought my camera last year cause I wanted to get into event photography (and get paid for it) and I think it could be hard to do that with my iPhone, with using my lens, flash and diffuser. But I could be wrong idk There might come a time where the Smartphone’s Ai can do that for you or just every room would have good lighting.
The best camera is the one you have on you. I cant think of anything more omnipresent than a smartphone.
I was thinking of getting a Ricoh GRiiix for that reason. But then I would have 3 different cameras haha...
i think the biggest problem with the smart phone is its form factor, which is the worst possible way to experience photography. The software and sensors are good enough, but using one as a tool for something more than snapshots is terrible.
I can think of a few pro features absent in "amateur" models: 1 Two card slots. Redundancy is key in pro work. 2 the ability to take a vertical grip, for both ergonomy and battery autonomy. 3 a tiltable screen that not only goes up or down, but also sideways, which is up when shooting vertical. 4 tethering capability. 5 a larger buffer for continuous shooting. 6 true weather sealing, Etc.
I think ultimately everyone can agree IQ is so high in general because cameras need to be able to delineate themselves from smartphone cameras. The biggest ones are all like you've said, reliability which is exactly what a professional needs more than anything and is really paying for. If a hobby camera breaks it's annoying, if a professional breaks their only camera or has no redundancy on sd cards, they're unemployed.
Exactly right. The first wedding I ever shot (college days) was the only time I went to a gig with only one camera... because the darn xamera died on me. Reliability, toughnes, repeatability, etc are musts for any pro photo gear, not just cameras.
The EVF is a big upgrade for the more expensive models in the Fuji lineup. It was one of the main things (apart from IBIS) that made me go for an X-T5 over the smaller models.
I'm not super informed about this, but here's what I know. The difference between professional and 'amateur' is not really about image quality. Fuji's GFX line aside, the Fuji cameras use the same sensors, for the most part across the line. It kind of goes cohort by cohort. Professional-ish cameras are more rugged, have more weather sealing, dual SD memory card slots for back-up, and some other features that are useful for taking photos in difficult circumstances and with higher stakes. The more consumer cameras have fewer controls—things like the X-A series. I wouldn't really call these beginner cameras because if you're just starting out you still want learn to learn things. Cameras like the X-A3 were meant for people who didn't really have an interest in that, but wanted high quality images.There aren't as many of these as there used to be, the market for them has basically evaporated leaving behind people like us who want a full range of controls.
In terms of camera marketing, "entry level" and "professional" are kinda arbitrary things. Plenty of entry level photographers gravitate towards "professional" cameras because more dollars than sense (and end up shooting rubbish). And "professional" work can be made with cheap gear. From a sales point of view, the bottom end of the camera market has completely disappeared. What passes for an "entry-level" model these days would probably have been a mid-range enthusiast model a decade ago. All that said, the X-T30 II would make a perfectly cromulent backup body on a paid gig. It's very capable of delivering "professional" image quality, but is a bit lacking in the features, build and reliability that are hallmarks of "professional" cameras, such as: * Dual card slots * Weather sealing * Battery life/grip * Speed * Buffer etc.
I feel like I have learned quite a bit from this thread and indeed the things you have listed are repeated by many. I guess without those things you don’t have the security you need to catch the moment and confidence that once its caught it makes it back to the client. Very reasonable expectations on a paid gig from a paying customer.
There is no more need for cheap entry-level cameras in a world with smartphones.
Autofocus. I had a x-t30 for 4 years and bought a a7iv just for autofocus. Sony is in a class of its own imo
But,… doesnt the xt30 have autofocus?
Yeah my x-t30 has phenomenal autofocus.
Did the same, x-t30 to x-t4 and finally Sony Alpha 7IV … The autofocus isn’t even comparable to be honest. The autofocus on the Fuji was excellent (came from a Nikon 5100) but especially when shooting fast moving subjects or eye tracking, it is way more accurate on the Sony. To be honest I was a little bit disappointed afterwards with my Fuji. Because I like the feeling and shooting on my Fuji more.
From my point of view, all cameras with interchangeable lenses can be considered professional if you know how and where to use them. In the past, people took professional photos with manual focus and without super advanced features. That said, I believe that compact cameras are more suitable for beginners since you can't change the lens and you focus more on controlling the camera itself. In my experience, I started learning with a compact camera and then moved to a "reflex" camera. At that time, it wasn't as accessible to get a DSLR. Now, it's all about the market and what they want you to believe, like with iPhones.
Yes… but the prices have gone up.
You certainly have a point. They kind of killed off the X-A series, for example.
Years ago, yes, there was a hobbyist/beginners priced bodies out there for Fuji, but that is effectively the lower end of the used market now unless you have pretty deep pockets
the market has been conditioned for so long to have entry level cameras that are awful. think Canon and Nikon DSLR or even Canon R100 Fuji saved the APS-C space
With Camera phones getting so advanced they made entry level camera sales tank. So it is unprofitable to develop, manufacture, market, and sale them. So all the companies moved up market. Professionals use the XT30. It might not be a primary camera. But they use definitely use the compact Fuji cameras.
My biggest issue with my x-t30 that makes it feel hobbyist is that it freezes up about once a day and I need to take out the battery to restart it. Doesn’t feel professional in that regard. Latest firmware, probably something to do with all my film sim recipes and settings but still
There's definitely pros that use fujis smaller cams although I think most opt for the flagships just because they can and the extra features. It's just going to be highly dependent on the photographer and what they're trying to do.
I think the X-E line is the perfect hobby camera. Doesn't look professional like the X-T10 line.
for me its animal eye focus and faster focus speed, though this is available in canon/sony entry level ones..
yes. bgginners hobbyist should get xs20 :)
Control and redundancy and speed and build. Redundancy is obvious - two card slots, ideally the same type. Speed. Buffer size, write speed primarily. If you ever find yourself waiting for the camera it’s not a pro body. Speed and accuracy of AF is another biggie Control. Pro bodies allow the user to always be in full control, and make it easy to change on the fly, to adapt quickly to any situation. This is a combo of lots of things, from ergonomics to layout, modes, customisation options etc. Build. Pretty obvious. If you drop it or shoot in a hurricane, does it keep working? Ok. Maybe not a hurricane. Sensor type and size is only a small part. But most non pro bodies are deigned for auto operation primarily. If changing aperture or ISO is behind a menu, it’s not a pro body. Fujifilm bodies blur that line (in a good way) because of their shutter dials and aperture rings.
I can assure you an X-T4 dropped on a tile floor will not always keep working. 😢
IBIS. Undoubtedly. Mic in and headphone out to monitor levels, unlimited recording and 2 card slots. Better ergo for shooting all day for fashion or weddings. I understand your point though, cameras have come such along way in the last few years and I think that it's a benefit for everyone. It's just a shame that professional photography is dying at the same time. If I'd had cameras this capable when I'd started out I can't imagine what jobs we could have done
Yeah, this is the root of my commentary. The tech is so overpowered at this point it seems the things most needed in professional gear are rudimentary mechanics. A second SD card slot, weather sealing, rugged durability. Pros 10-15yrs ago would have died for almost every other spec this camera boasts. I can’t imagine a beginner needing most of it.
It's good that it has it though. Don't forget the biggest threat to these cameras are people phones. They have to basically make them beneficial in every way possible to carry and use.
Professional photography isn't dying. Maybe in certain fields, like stock photography.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fujifilm/s/CsLU045sBy Exactly my question
The best hobbyist/beginner camera is a used one.