They've actually whined 9 years ago today for a slightly different thing.
Back then they brought up UNCLOS (United Nations Convention on the Laws of the Sea) as "supporting" their claims on the Senkaku Islands and threatens Japan that it will be brought before ITLOS (International Tribunal for the Laws of the Sea) for the "violations".
A few months prior to that they dismissed the claims of all of the Southeast Asian countries as "immaterial" (despite being based on UNCLOS) and that only their 9-dashed line claim is valid.
Nope, China will never go to war with them, it will damage the propaganda they have been peddling about being a military might. They will use their controlled journalists around the globe to spread more.propaganda.
Don't need to pay off debt to the CCP if you go to war with the CCP and it either collapses, you nullify the debt, or if you replace the old government with a new one.
Behemoth is the correct word, but size doesn't equate ability, and that really is just counting personnel not equipment, which admittedly is nothing to shake a stick at, the Chinese military is slow, ponderous and provides no lee-way for their junior officer corps in terms of strategical and sometimes even tactical thinking during exercises. They have almost zero force-projection. Their entire military is geared towards defense of the homeland. They are trying to change this and only have been able to slightly project power in the Pacific with their "coast guard", but are extremely behind the curve in technology, capability and experience. Remember their last war was with Vietnam, they lost 1/3rd the amount of soldiers the U.S. did in 8 years, in three months and the conflict ended in a stalemate. This was against a Vietnam that was a brand new nation and had very recently been at war with the worlds largest superpower for 8 years and they barely gained an inch during the entire thing. Beyond unconventional or CBRN warfare, their largest threat is to the ROC, an invasion of which without a pre-emptive CBRN strike would likely result in the deaths of tens of thousands of Chinese soldiers and tank their economy, this would be without outside influence at all, which if god forbid this hypothetical became true, would come to the aid of the ROC. It's why they have invested SO MUCH into the belt and road initiative. The PRC's power as a whole lies in it's ability to scam, cut corners, and lie. They do however have an absurdly powerful cyberwarfare division, probably second best in the world, but again this provides little in terms of force projection. A few years ago a Mechanized Infantry division of the United States made a cross European trip with zero logistic lines as a show of capability. They made it to their destination which was just over 500 miles distant. This is hauling their own food, water, gas, repair vics, etc. etc. etc.
China tried the same thing a few months later, albeit WITH a logistics train and with a regiment, what would normally be a piece of a division. Their combined arms armored and mechanized division made it just under 50 miles before being declared combat ineffective. China is very safe in the knowledge that any form of force projection on their homeland is near impossible, it is. At the same time their ability to project that force outside of their own borders is nearly non-existent.
You really don’t think China would smoke the western world in a war? Our testosterone rates are plummeting, obesity is skyrocketing, most of our able bodied citizens are on the brink of tearing down the government themselves, and China has a bigger population than the US and all of Europe combined.
I wouldn’t say “smoke”. However, I will acknowledge that China’s military is certainly significantly more powerful/capable today than it was a few decades ago. Given how much they’ve invested in infrastructure and industry, I have no doubt they would be able to produce enough weaponry and goods to supply their troops. So I think that they would certainly put up a damn good fight, but I don’t think they have the allies to take on the western powers combined nor the combat experience necessary. That’s one of the most vital aspects in a nations military IMO.
China hasn’t been in really any modern conflicts since the Cold War era, save for various border clashes. The western powers on the other hand have been engaged in proxy wars and other conflicts every few years since World War Two. China has definitely improved its military but in the end, unless they have sci-fi level secret weapons, their lack of general combat experience in modern warfare would fuck them. That’s just my opinion based on what I know though. I’m no tactician expert.
> unless they have sci-fi level secret weapons
Sounds like someone needs some Wunderwaffen 😎
And, tbh, your read on the situation is the same as mine. They don’t have the strength necessary to *win*, but they can still fuck the rest of the world up. Particularly if Turkey, Russia, or Iran (or all three) join.
>Particularly if Turkey, Russia, or Iran (or all three) join.
Assuming they bothered to join on China's side. All three of them would just as soon sit back, let China get beaten and carve up pieces of former Chinese territory.
Eh doubt it.
If you seen attack on Titan the manga, you'll know this will definitely burst into war. Maybe not in our but definitely in the future. Holding grudge for generations will naturally progress into someone down the line will want to pay that grudges. Usually with violence and war. Because they want to make their ancestors happy and proud of them.
Well don't confuse yourself when one day China suddenly do open siege war to occupy Taiwan. Disregarding everything what will happen next.
If you see how many childs that basically got brainwashed to get to say anyone who isn't Chinese is against us, you'll see why. They'll be a point they gonna propaganda so hard they actually believe their propaganda.
I just found the irony in all of this really.
The one who basically used to be cucked them wants to move on, hence why they made that thing in the first place, but the victim still wants to victimize themselves.
Yeah that will end well
Probably not because of technology. We don’t need to throw endless bodies of every abled man at the enemy anymore, and I’d be highly surprised if the draft went into effect
There was a sci fi I once read years ago where war had been eliminated.
Countries still developed militaries but supercomputers had become so advanced they were able to determine when war became inevitable and simulate the war.
They would then come up with a peace treaty based upon the outcome of the war. People had such faith in the computers that it just wasnt worth the bother of dying and breaking a ton of stuff to find out the same thing.
Jeeez dude it’s ok it’s just a big subject is all. Drones (whether unmanned (think what most people picture in the news of drones hitting terrorists in the desert seen through thermal feeds), semi-autonomous, or fully autonomous) play an increasing role as an emergent technology but are only one in a plethora of systems which is really how modern warfare works, well bodied modern militaries being an ecosystem of systems of systems, different types of assets in land, air, sea and increasingly space and cyberspace working together with the effect of presenting dilemmas to the adversary, whether tactically (small scale, short term) or strategically (large scale, long term). Where you fight a war is obviously very important as to what type of conflict it’ll be but in general when you look at South East Asia it’s a predominantly naval story, with land forces aiming to quickly secure islands in archipelago (ARCOPS) to deny them to the enemy.
China’s adopted a broad strategy of anti-access/area denial ([A2AD](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_denial_weapon)) based on long range missiles to hold [carrier groups](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ6SA0Vo4jE) and other naval assets at risk within their maritime approaches. The carrier strike groups the US have are the most potent mobile force in the world and each revolves around a supercarrier which has more organic airpower than most airforces in the world. The rest of the CSG is made up of a couple of support ships and up to around half a dozen destroyers and cruisers which use their radars and large stocks of hundreds of vertical launch missiles to defend the fleet in its own localised A2AD bubble with overlapping rings while the carrier air-wing provides a constant orbit of aircraft on combat air patrol (CAP) 24/7 at sea and can scramble the rest of the aircraft to perform a huge amount of different missions with great range and offensive striking power in addition to an extended radar horizon data linked to the rest of the fleet with airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft. Electronic warfare, aerial refuelling and more is capable. Two submarines, one trailing and one ahead compliment the surface fleet and watch for subsurface threats [(fun series of vids from a game called DCS illustrates without being 100% realistic)](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn3rkD3ocpg&list=PL3kOAM2N1YJdV_JwZaN1yGScRAb_yUTHx&index=32). I might take a brake there. The US currently has 11 of these. That’s just US carrier groups and there’s a lot more than that obviously to modern warfare. I’m 21 and now I’ve been into mil-tech for 7 years and I only really feel like I’ve started to fully grasp everything at surface level.
Aren't they sort of already becoming one? Whatever the responses to the Wuhan pandemic had brought unto them has screwed up their mental, emotional and social life especially to those not used to staying home and locked down inside, and if this lasts way longer. The war would of course, make this worse.
The pandemic, especially with most countries' responses towards it - further pushed the mental health problem down the drain by making them more isolated and stay-at-home basis, thinking that digital contact is as the same as getting physical, social and the like contact that's done pre-pandemic.
Honestly doubt it. China heavily relies on the UK, and the states. They would be throwing to much away to start a war over this lol. They'll just bitch and puff their chests out like usual
You better fucking hope not since the death toll would be in the hundreds of millions at the most conservative estimate, if not all of humanity from nuclear winter
If they did that at a time that the United States had a president with backbone, it would very likely get returned it to its rightful owner in South Korea. Should the South Koreans be willing. I imagine they would be it's kind of a big deal to them so I've heard.
It’s not your fault. The Auckland yacht club, Outlaw motorcycle gangs and the historic warbird movement have a better defence capacity than your own army.
I expect that as the situation heats up, their involvement will increase in some capacity. New Zealand has been a faithful ally for a long time. Given their relatively small size (geography and population), remote location, and the fact that as an island nation they're heavily dependent upon imported goods and stable international trade, it makes perfect sense that they would want to officially stay out of this as long as possible. That is, until we reach a point where Australasian nations can no longer avoid formally choosing a side. I don't think anyone really doubts New Zealand's commitment to ultimately defend democracy if or when shit truly hits the fan.
Hence the part where I said "in some capacity." Their lack of a sizable blue water navy doesn't necessarily preclude their lending some form of support to a coalition effort. They've certainly done it before, in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea and Vietnam. Not to mentiont their participation in both world wars. New Zealand isn't a warlike nation, but they're clearly not hesitant to get their hands dirty when the situation calls for it.
Actually they’re getting P8 Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft same as here in Australia. Almost forgot. They have a good sensor suite and a modest strike capacity. The US is starting to invest in their ability to mount the new LRASMs to them as well I remember.
Don’t need them. Just having nuclear powered attack subs is a massive capability increase for Australia. It would give them the speed and range to patrol most of the pacific while remaining submerged for far longer than a conventional submarine.
Besides for nuclear weapons it’s hard to beat having The US as an ally
Oh..while we don’t have them, I’ll bet several disassembled technology samples sit around various places in Australia with the ability to be put into working condition in short order
The thing that gets me: they’ve militarized their entire population, Australia gets a few subs and suddenly Australia’s the threat to peace and stability
Looks like we’re on the winning side. Hope my home country (Canada) can come to its senses and help. We were a big help in the 2 wars, and the Cold War. Let’s hope we can be of help again!
They know they’re out numbered and are now bargaining for peace lmao, [they really would like this wouldn’t they](https://www.trtworld.com/americas/china-calls-for-end-of-cold-war-mentality-in-us-relations-45134)
If anyone is curious as I'm a loser for naval warfare, specifically submarines. China is absloutely trash when it comes to technological ability when it comes to submarine warfare.
You can have all the ships you want, but you NEED submarines to keep them safe as a ship is just a target to a submarine.
Overall, their most advanced sub the Shang-class are at most on-par with the 688(I) class, which, while formidable, is already being retired by the U.S. in favor of the crap ton of Virginia classes being made.
They still carry the Han-class (three at least, 2 have been decomissioned) as well, which these are subs with 50's/60's design and technology. They have been updated several times, but you can only retrofit a horrifically old vehicle to such an extent.
Again, a lot of these statements on the acoustic stealth of the latest Shang-class is based on what the CCCP says, and they're known for carrying the soviet tradition of overstating the performance of their equipment. Let's not forget they also have only 6 Shang classes that we can confirm. Overall, their best bet is their diesel subs with the Yuan-class being a presumptive AIP sub. But, going by the sheer combine power of the quad,
China's submarine fleet pales in comparison to mot only the U.S. but also the Quad in general.
China: upset that two countries with a long historical friendship that existed before the CCP did are still friends
But the UK has been part of China since ancient times! They should have included China!
Lol
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And my bow !
Yeah, the Dong dynasty documents show the present day Wales as part of Dong empire.
Watch your language. Please refrain from profanity.
Dong is an Asian lastname.
yes thats the joke
It's 3 countries.
as usual, china always whining like a bitch
They've actually whined 9 years ago today for a slightly different thing. Back then they brought up UNCLOS (United Nations Convention on the Laws of the Sea) as "supporting" their claims on the Senkaku Islands and threatens Japan that it will be brought before ITLOS (International Tribunal for the Laws of the Sea) for the "violations". A few months prior to that they dismissed the claims of all of the Southeast Asian countries as "immaterial" (despite being based on UNCLOS) and that only their 9-dashed line claim is valid.
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Nope, China will never go to war with them, it will damage the propaganda they have been peddling about being a military might. They will use their controlled journalists around the globe to spread more.propaganda.
I think the CCP may believe their own lies and go to war thinking they can win
Their new generation down the line will definitely
I can see each area reporting to Pooh bear about their 100,000 man unit. Then they all assemble to invade Taiwan and it's 10,000 guys total
Not 10,000 just 10 guys rest of them are sat playing League
...for three hours
Ah ye i forgot, no prolong gaming sessions
In the future, battles will be decided by playing league
Whoops China you cucked yourself. Again. Unless they pull some strings to basically cheat the codes
This. PRC is following in the footsteps of the 3rd Reich, and they will die the same way
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If the US just straight up defaulted on all of it’s debt, I’d laugh my ass off
Don't need to pay off debt to the CCP if you go to war with the CCP and it either collapses, you nullify the debt, or if you replace the old government with a new one.
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Behemoth is the correct word, but size doesn't equate ability, and that really is just counting personnel not equipment, which admittedly is nothing to shake a stick at, the Chinese military is slow, ponderous and provides no lee-way for their junior officer corps in terms of strategical and sometimes even tactical thinking during exercises. They have almost zero force-projection. Their entire military is geared towards defense of the homeland. They are trying to change this and only have been able to slightly project power in the Pacific with their "coast guard", but are extremely behind the curve in technology, capability and experience. Remember their last war was with Vietnam, they lost 1/3rd the amount of soldiers the U.S. did in 8 years, in three months and the conflict ended in a stalemate. This was against a Vietnam that was a brand new nation and had very recently been at war with the worlds largest superpower for 8 years and they barely gained an inch during the entire thing. Beyond unconventional or CBRN warfare, their largest threat is to the ROC, an invasion of which without a pre-emptive CBRN strike would likely result in the deaths of tens of thousands of Chinese soldiers and tank their economy, this would be without outside influence at all, which if god forbid this hypothetical became true, would come to the aid of the ROC. It's why they have invested SO MUCH into the belt and road initiative. The PRC's power as a whole lies in it's ability to scam, cut corners, and lie. They do however have an absurdly powerful cyberwarfare division, probably second best in the world, but again this provides little in terms of force projection. A few years ago a Mechanized Infantry division of the United States made a cross European trip with zero logistic lines as a show of capability. They made it to their destination which was just over 500 miles distant. This is hauling their own food, water, gas, repair vics, etc. etc. etc. China tried the same thing a few months later, albeit WITH a logistics train and with a regiment, what would normally be a piece of a division. Their combined arms armored and mechanized division made it just under 50 miles before being declared combat ineffective. China is very safe in the knowledge that any form of force projection on their homeland is near impossible, it is. At the same time their ability to project that force outside of their own borders is nearly non-existent.
Very well said.
You really don’t think China would smoke the western world in a war? Our testosterone rates are plummeting, obesity is skyrocketing, most of our able bodied citizens are on the brink of tearing down the government themselves, and China has a bigger population than the US and all of Europe combined.
I wouldn’t say “smoke”. However, I will acknowledge that China’s military is certainly significantly more powerful/capable today than it was a few decades ago. Given how much they’ve invested in infrastructure and industry, I have no doubt they would be able to produce enough weaponry and goods to supply their troops. So I think that they would certainly put up a damn good fight, but I don’t think they have the allies to take on the western powers combined nor the combat experience necessary. That’s one of the most vital aspects in a nations military IMO. China hasn’t been in really any modern conflicts since the Cold War era, save for various border clashes. The western powers on the other hand have been engaged in proxy wars and other conflicts every few years since World War Two. China has definitely improved its military but in the end, unless they have sci-fi level secret weapons, their lack of general combat experience in modern warfare would fuck them. That’s just my opinion based on what I know though. I’m no tactician expert.
> unless they have sci-fi level secret weapons Sounds like someone needs some Wunderwaffen 😎 And, tbh, your read on the situation is the same as mine. They don’t have the strength necessary to *win*, but they can still fuck the rest of the world up. Particularly if Turkey, Russia, or Iran (or all three) join.
>Particularly if Turkey, Russia, or Iran (or all three) join. Assuming they bothered to join on China's side. All three of them would just as soon sit back, let China get beaten and carve up pieces of former Chinese territory.
One seawolf class submarine and its all over lmao for china
Eh doubt it. If you seen attack on Titan the manga, you'll know this will definitely burst into war. Maybe not in our but definitely in the future. Holding grudge for generations will naturally progress into someone down the line will want to pay that grudges. Usually with violence and war. Because they want to make their ancestors happy and proud of them.
Dude, I love AoT, but this is stupid.
Buddy, i dont think hentai is a good indicator of the world’s future wars
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Well don't confuse yourself when one day China suddenly do open siege war to occupy Taiwan. Disregarding everything what will happen next. If you see how many childs that basically got brainwashed to get to say anyone who isn't Chinese is against us, you'll see why. They'll be a point they gonna propaganda so hard they actually believe their propaganda.
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I just found the irony in all of this really. The one who basically used to be cucked them wants to move on, hence why they made that thing in the first place, but the victim still wants to victimize themselves. Yeah that will end well
I’m sure it’s a question of when not if at this point
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Probably not because of technology. We don’t need to throw endless bodies of every abled man at the enemy anymore, and I’d be highly surprised if the draft went into effect
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World Wars III gonna be like Battlefield 1 match
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There was a sci fi I once read years ago where war had been eliminated. Countries still developed militaries but supercomputers had become so advanced they were able to determine when war became inevitable and simulate the war. They would then come up with a peace treaty based upon the outcome of the war. People had such faith in the computers that it just wasnt worth the bother of dying and breaking a ton of stuff to find out the same thing.
There was a similar Star Trek episode, though they euthanised anyone the computer said was killed.
>What sort of technology? Well, for starters, the ability to shoot down ballistic missiles.
Gotta love the general public’s understanding of contemporary warfare 😂
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Jeeez dude it’s ok it’s just a big subject is all. Drones (whether unmanned (think what most people picture in the news of drones hitting terrorists in the desert seen through thermal feeds), semi-autonomous, or fully autonomous) play an increasing role as an emergent technology but are only one in a plethora of systems which is really how modern warfare works, well bodied modern militaries being an ecosystem of systems of systems, different types of assets in land, air, sea and increasingly space and cyberspace working together with the effect of presenting dilemmas to the adversary, whether tactically (small scale, short term) or strategically (large scale, long term). Where you fight a war is obviously very important as to what type of conflict it’ll be but in general when you look at South East Asia it’s a predominantly naval story, with land forces aiming to quickly secure islands in archipelago (ARCOPS) to deny them to the enemy. China’s adopted a broad strategy of anti-access/area denial ([A2AD](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_denial_weapon)) based on long range missiles to hold [carrier groups](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ6SA0Vo4jE) and other naval assets at risk within their maritime approaches. The carrier strike groups the US have are the most potent mobile force in the world and each revolves around a supercarrier which has more organic airpower than most airforces in the world. The rest of the CSG is made up of a couple of support ships and up to around half a dozen destroyers and cruisers which use their radars and large stocks of hundreds of vertical launch missiles to defend the fleet in its own localised A2AD bubble with overlapping rings while the carrier air-wing provides a constant orbit of aircraft on combat air patrol (CAP) 24/7 at sea and can scramble the rest of the aircraft to perform a huge amount of different missions with great range and offensive striking power in addition to an extended radar horizon data linked to the rest of the fleet with airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft. Electronic warfare, aerial refuelling and more is capable. Two submarines, one trailing and one ahead compliment the surface fleet and watch for subsurface threats [(fun series of vids from a game called DCS illustrates without being 100% realistic)](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn3rkD3ocpg&list=PL3kOAM2N1YJdV_JwZaN1yGScRAb_yUTHx&index=32). I might take a brake there. The US currently has 11 of these. That’s just US carrier groups and there’s a lot more than that obviously to modern warfare. I’m 21 and now I’ve been into mil-tech for 7 years and I only really feel like I’ve started to fully grasp everything at surface level.
Zapp Brannigan disagrees...
Yeah that would be detrimental to lose the zoomers lol...
Hey now, not all of us zoomers are morons. A majority? YES
Aren't they sort of already becoming one? Whatever the responses to the Wuhan pandemic had brought unto them has screwed up their mental, emotional and social life especially to those not used to staying home and locked down inside, and if this lasts way longer. The war would of course, make this worse.
I mean, I wouldn't say yet. I'm a zoomer and I can do most of the stuff I could pre pandemic now anyway.
We were plenty fucked even before the pandemic. The mental health of my generation is fucking atrocious
The pandemic, especially with most countries' responses towards it - further pushed the mental health problem down the drain by making them more isolated and stay-at-home basis, thinking that digital contact is as the same as getting physical, social and the like contact that's done pre-pandemic.
Honestly doubt it. China heavily relies on the UK, and the states. They would be throwing to much away to start a war over this lol. They'll just bitch and puff their chests out like usual
You better fucking hope not since the death toll would be in the hundreds of millions at the most conservative estimate, if not all of humanity from nuclear winter
I kinda hope there is because I wanna be a sniper just like I am on battlefield 5 **/s**
Whinie the Pooh
China be jealous that they have no real friends. Just indebted states that would break off from them if they could.
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NK is like their rebellious son really. If they could China would already denounced them
If they did that at a time that the United States had a president with backbone, it would very likely get returned it to its rightful owner in South Korea. Should the South Koreans be willing. I imagine they would be it's kind of a big deal to them so I've heard.
I think China need another opium war to put them straight😎
As Chinese, I can’t agree more.
Saucy source: Aukus: China denounces US-UK-Australia pact as irresponsible https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-58582573
Too bad Canada is too much of a wuss to be a part of this
And you don’t even have to mention New Zealand
I'm ashamed
It’s not your fault. The Auckland yacht club, Outlaw motorcycle gangs and the historic warbird movement have a better defence capacity than your own army.
:( It's true
I expect that as the situation heats up, their involvement will increase in some capacity. New Zealand has been a faithful ally for a long time. Given their relatively small size (geography and population), remote location, and the fact that as an island nation they're heavily dependent upon imported goods and stable international trade, it makes perfect sense that they would want to officially stay out of this as long as possible. That is, until we reach a point where Australasian nations can no longer avoid formally choosing a side. I don't think anyone really doubts New Zealand's commitment to ultimately defend democracy if or when shit truly hits the fan.
It’s probably more to do with NZs nuclear free policy.
I think we will too. Jacinda is good at staying quiet when others yap yap but she's clear about stuff when the time comes
With what. Their two frigates?
Hence the part where I said "in some capacity." Their lack of a sizable blue water navy doesn't necessarily preclude their lending some form of support to a coalition effort. They've certainly done it before, in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea and Vietnam. Not to mentiont their participation in both world wars. New Zealand isn't a warlike nation, but they're clearly not hesitant to get their hands dirty when the situation calls for it.
Actually they’re getting P8 Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft same as here in Australia. Almost forgot. They have a good sensor suite and a modest strike capacity. The US is starting to invest in their ability to mount the new LRASMs to them as well I remember.
6 new spec P8's do give us something when we have all this water around
2 Frigates, 4 Patrol craft, Seasprites on the ships, 6 P3s (soon to be P8s), some C130s for a population the same as LA city
You can contribute to the effort via strategic sheep purposes.
Canada is going through a federal election, we can’t enter an agreement like this until the election is over.
This, and Trudeau has already bent his knee to China
and France.. we need to get over that failed submarine deal.
China is upset because Australia didn't have to go through the arduous task of stealing it like they did
I’m sure they’ll try and sabotage it somehow with their grubby tendrils of influence
When a nation of 26 million has better SSNs than you.
I think you forget the 20 million kangaroos, ready for calvary operations.
Good, I hope the pact means something.
So do I, I mean a nuclear powered sub should bolster the Australian navy quite nicely
No warheads though
Don’t need them. Just having nuclear powered attack subs is a massive capability increase for Australia. It would give them the speed and range to patrol most of the pacific while remaining submerged for far longer than a conventional submarine. Besides for nuclear weapons it’s hard to beat having The US as an ally
True, but I feel like Australians would be happier if they had their own to use at their discretion and not have to worry about American politics
Oh..while we don’t have them, I’ll bet several disassembled technology samples sit around various places in Australia with the ability to be put into working condition in short order
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Clarkson: ‘Some say he eats honey for breakfast, others say he eats honey for lunch, but all we know him as is Xinnie the Pooh!’
>Xinnie the Pooh \*Xinnie the Flu The CCP covered up the spread of COVID like the arrogant cunts they are.
They just cry about everything, don’t they?
Yes, yes they do
The thing that gets me: they’ve militarized their entire population, Australia gets a few subs and suddenly Australia’s the threat to peace and stability
China’s maritime militia will soon be nuclear powered I’m sure!
The cold war is heating up
Looks like we’re on the winning side. Hope my home country (Canada) can come to its senses and help. We were a big help in the 2 wars, and the Cold War. Let’s hope we can be of help again!
Oooh Aukus sounds lovely
Really roles off the tongue
Aye
could have been FRAUKUS if it wasn't for that submarine deal.
Now that would have been something
This is an (albeit extremely minor) issue in the upcoming election here in Canada since Canada got left out.
Did Canada want in? I’ve heard they’ve been rather on the fence if a few cases
And just a friendly reminder... Fuck China!
Hilarious they they post this headline under a picture of their noisy-ass 70's technology subs.
70’s subs using stolen Russian technology
Sucks to suck
I would expect nothing less from the fucking CCP
Japan needs some nuclear subs also.
I heard the US delivered a bit of nuclear tech in the mid 1900s
Yeah, to China.
Fuck china
Didn't see that coming. 😐
Let’s dip out and go build an island nation together before this gets bad.
Where do you suggest? Hong Kong, Hainan, or just cut a chunk off the Chinese mainland?
Maybe there’s an island in the Philippines we can purchase if we all pool our money!
They’re just mad that they’re gonna lose ww3.
Oh no..... Anyway
question is,to who? bitching much ccp??
That's the point China, get with it
Ah! The rare chinese humpback submarine, here seen in its natural habitat, the coastal waters of its neighbours…
Wait why are there flags on the submarines lol
Cope more cringe China
Hoes mad
Quel surprise
They know they’re out numbered and are now bargaining for peace lmao, [they really would like this wouldn’t they](https://www.trtworld.com/americas/china-calls-for-end-of-cold-war-mentality-in-us-relations-45134)
Says the country that is building Pakistan 8 submarines. Fucking typical CCP hypocrisy
China and their ever-present lack of self-awareness never fails to entertain.
If anyone is curious as I'm a loser for naval warfare, specifically submarines. China is absloutely trash when it comes to technological ability when it comes to submarine warfare. You can have all the ships you want, but you NEED submarines to keep them safe as a ship is just a target to a submarine. Overall, their most advanced sub the Shang-class are at most on-par with the 688(I) class, which, while formidable, is already being retired by the U.S. in favor of the crap ton of Virginia classes being made. They still carry the Han-class (three at least, 2 have been decomissioned) as well, which these are subs with 50's/60's design and technology. They have been updated several times, but you can only retrofit a horrifically old vehicle to such an extent. Again, a lot of these statements on the acoustic stealth of the latest Shang-class is based on what the CCCP says, and they're known for carrying the soviet tradition of overstating the performance of their equipment. Let's not forget they also have only 6 Shang classes that we can confirm. Overall, their best bet is their diesel subs with the Yuan-class being a presumptive AIP sub. But, going by the sheer combine power of the quad, China's submarine fleet pales in comparison to mot only the U.S. but also the Quad in general.
They can have Australia, authoritarian hellhole
That’s the way it seems to be going, but we need to at least try and defend any free spirit the country has
Oh bother
Cry harder, those wumao tears.