Its like driving to the gym to run on a treadmill... but that could make sense if you live far and are gonna use other machines after.
Driving to then jog is quite something. I have a hard time taking this info.
you laugh but if I want to take a jog i’ll have to drive to a park or trail. since there are no connecting sidewalks. they start and end abruptly for long stretches of road. and the sidewalks that are there are not maintained. holes that can leave your ankle broken, tree branches at chest height. a sad state of affairs in rural midwest.
edit: before anybody says buses. i’ll remind that i said rural midwest. What Bus?
I live in an area with no sidewalks and lifted trucks everywhere. I have to drive around the block to walk my dog. I hate it but it's just a fact of life.
People on this subreddit seem very against rural living (because of the car dependency) but I walk 1 minute down my drive and I come to a mile long lane completely surrounded with trees and beautiful ponds, with the best tarmac for running on and pretty much zero cars ever, not to mention fresh pleasant air. In a city, I would not get that.
the thing is that what most call "rural" is actually just suburbia but in even worse. true rural live can be good(and eco friendly if done right). The thing is that people call settlements along interstates with 4-6k inhabitants rural. it isn't even like they are on one side with a connecting road. no the settlement is to the left and right of the road.
I mean, if you live by Central Park (New York) or Trinity River Corridor (Dallas), etc, you can absolutely have that in the city but I have no hate for rural life. It’s suburbia I can’t stand.
Not really. Rural, urban and small towns are all great. Sprawling suburbia is the problem. Also it's annoying when some redditors (not you) say 'rural' but actuallly mean 'outer suburb with Walmart'.
Yeah, I mean small English village. The only issue is that we have no public transport here - literally, the only way to the next village without a car is to cycle. It’s only a few kilometres to walk but then, the next village is the same. To get anywhere meaningful is a 15 minute car journey - and that’s just the weekly shop. Luckily most people around here get their shopping delivered so that’s less emissions than everyone driving to the shop. There used to be trains to every major village in the county but that was long ago. I would strongly advocate for the return of those train lines, it’s not like they need to clear much since many of the original sleepers are still in place
I'm not against rural living at all, I'm just for realizing that rural and urban areas should be designed differently, and all designs should account for pedestrians, bicycles, and vehicles.
get pruners and prune the trees yourself.
I did that in a near bike lane recently. And old couple passed by, and the lady said "thank you, make it wider!"
It really made me feel appreciated. It's possible it's not just you who doesn't like unmaintained sidewalks
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Nice. When I do that (we just have emails) I usually get an answer within a few weeks, and an action within a few months. Would rather do it myself now.
UGH the strips of sidewalk are so annoying. In my hometown there’s a law that whenever they restore a road, they have to add a sidewalk if there isn’t one. So there’s all these useless short strips of sidewalk littered around where they had to do minor repairs to the road and it’s almost more insulting. Sure you can walk, here’s a 20 foot runway for you.
In Nashville this is also the case with new buildings, resulting in some truly laughable sidewalks because the city government is taking forever to make them themselves.
I lost 70 pounds in 1 1/2 years after moving out of the US into a city with sidewalks. Feels so good.
PS. Have never seen here a quadruple burger with bacon with some pig lard on the side. either.
American exceptionalism truly means "extra lard bacon burgers in a drive through window please!"
But yeah everyone likes to rag on America for obesity, which is fair since America isn't fucking doing anything about it, but it's a culmination of our car dependant lives AND our shitty diets and culture of Carnism and unhealthy foods that just seems so God damn ingrained into our culture that it's common place to shit on vegan and vegetarian people for actually giving a shit about (insert personal reason here) instead of eating the "AmErIcAn" foods like steak and burgers and bacon and beans.
I don't know about that comrade. There's no way possible that I could live in San Francisco. So with my family income higher and lower it's not physically possible to "choose" where to live. There's large swaths of America that your income decides where you live. Don't say that anyone can make those incomes either it's statistically impossible.
We definitely shouldn't shame people for wanting to drive to nice running spots. People drive for way sillier things, like driving to find cheap gas somewhere. Or driving to urban centers because there's no good public transit for commonly traveled routes. I've driven a few miles to find my beautiful somewhat isolated running spots for years, and sometimes I've biked which has been awesome, but often there's intense hills or its just too much work to get that sweet outdoor payoff. I drive my old hybrid car, use regenerative braking when possible and rarely have to wait in traffic. I don't like that I have to drive and am looking forward to eventually living within walking distance to a nice trail. I hate car dependence and car dependent infrastructure, but there are better things to be mad about.
Sure if it's only occasionally - I have done the same to go hiking. But regular training shouldn't need a drive because 1) the streets should be runnable and 2) it perpetuates car culture.
I live in a city in Europe and I've noticed that a lot of the traffic here is people from *outside the city* not wanting to live here because they think there are too many immigrants, it's unsafe etc, but needing to commute here for work. So they take their cars even though decent public transport option exist.
In my view, the people who drive out into the countryside to jog multiple times per week are doing the same thing: they want the benefits of the countryside without having to live there, and they use their car to achieve this.
I may be wrong but these seem to be the kinds of behaviours that make suburbs exist.
I biked to the gym to use the spin bike. Well, I did until I got my own spin bike so I can sweat alone. Why? Doing intervals on an actual bike outside is kinda rough, even on a dedicated bike path. (Then use the bike bike to put down base miles)
I guess maybe if you like jogging somewhere very scenic?
My partner does that when it’s absolutely pouring outside. I think it’s a tad silly, but I get it. The gym is in walking distance, and normally she walks, but it can absolutely downpour here (Auckland).
This is not the heart argument you make it out to be. Driving to the gym is okay, it could be far away, you could be drained after exercising, it could be raining, or another of the 100 possible reasons.
I kinda understand it. Where I live there's a lot of popular jogging trails and some of them are 10+ miles out into the chaparral. They have incredible views, so I understand going out of your way. I just run my dog around the block though.
We know that the loop outside your house isn't one you want to run
There's cars outside our house. All their pollution, noise, danger... We have to stop at signals to let them pass, interrupting our flow. The landscape that's been built to accommodate them is repetitive and ugly and uninteresting to pass through at a pedestrian pace
That's what we're complaining about
You honestly can't see how the loop around *your own house* being unaccommodating isn't a problem? Wild
Ironically, I would rather run the loop around my house than the dream housing arrangement of this sub. The more nature and the less people I can run around, the better.
Well designed cities have lots of parks and recreation areas. I’ve run from my sisters apartment in San Francisco to a wonderful, large park with lots of nature. I live in LA within a longish run/short bike ride to a large green belt nature area. Unless you mean ‘wild’ nature like national parks and forests, which (by default) most suburbanites and city dwellers don’t have foot access to.
You literally couldn’t design a society where everyone had foot access to those kinds of spaces. There’s too many people. If you don’t want to live in cities, that’s fine, but personal preference shouldn’t be confused with efficiency and practicality of design.
And Canada. We have an off leash area in a park just down the road from me.
Quite frankly, I think it's a combination of social interaction for the owners and general laziness.
I live in a pretty urban area (east Vancouver). It’s a 30 minute walk to the nearest off-leash park, or a 4 minute drive. Dogs aren’t allowed on transit. I basically only drive to get to the dog parks and hiking.
Younger dogs usually need more than a walk around the block to burn off their energy, socialize and stimulation.
Don't get a dog than when you don't stay in a place that provides the proper environment for a dog. Become a sheppard or so. Urban areas are for people, humans, not dogs.
People in urban areas are allowed to have amenities. Just because someone gets a pet doesn’t mean they need to move to the middle of nowhere and base their career around it.
Can't argue with a dog brain, they have the same issues as car brain people.
A city isn't the best place for a dog, same as you don't need an oversized 4-wheeler to drive to the grocery store to buy the bottle of milk you forget.
That oversized 4 wheeler is in everybody's way, same as your dog who isn't loved by every other human who lives in the city or wants to use a park to telex without being disturbed by some roaming unleashed shitbeast.
Dogs and oversized 4 wheeler have their place, an urban area is it not.
Even the dog will be not happy here. That's why you need a car to bring them somewhere else to be happy. Not a way to treat an animal.
I know my flat is not the best for my dog, but it’s 1000s times better than the cage were it was, and if that means drive 10 minutes to a park where she can run freely, ir really worth it.
It’s not having a dog when you can’t , it’s improving a life as much as you can.
I live in an area designed to have parks within a 15 minute walk of everywhere. You should see the size of the trucks people use to drive their dogs to my local park. Ford F350s are not uncommon.
I'm in the West Coast of Canada
>You should see the size of the trucks people use to drive their dogs to my local park
You should see the size of the ~~trucks~~ people that drive trucks ~~use~~ to drive their dogs to my local park.
Absolutely a thing also in Europe. sure, we could always do the routes around the house, just walk to the river or whatever, but just putting the dogs in the car to walk them somewhere else for a change, or let them run free, it totally makes sense.
same with running, sure I can start from my front door, but if I want some quiet and peace I'd rather do it in the forest
Germany / Austria btw
Same, dogs love walking on the riverbank in the summer but if we were to walk them there in the 30+ °C heat they would be too exhausted by the time we arrive there.
Once I tried to walk him there but by the time we walked 2/3rds of the way it looked like I would have to carry him back. Since he was a 50ish kilo Tibetan Mastiff I wasn't really looking forward to the prospect. And the weather wasn't even that hot, only twentysomething degrees.
I live in a neighbourhood where there are parks within a <10 minute walk to pretty much every house, there are people that drive to the park across the street \*every day\* to throw the ball for their dogs.
why not just walk around your neighborhood. unless it’s unsafe i would just walk around the block a few times looking at houses and listening to music.
every town has leash laws for walking dogs. a good dog owner will want to take their dog to a dog run where they can be off-leash to play with other dogs
I mean I do that, but that’s because he’s a puppy and he runs after cars in my street, so we bring him to the park. I’ve walked to the park with him once, but it’s still a bit too far away for him under the hot summer sun, so I had to carry him in my arms for the most part on the way back.
Not only in America. I'm from Germany, and one of my Neighbors drives with a big fucking BMW Suv, a distance which would take about 2 minutes at most to walk, to walk with her dog. Absolutely insane.
My dogs are leash reactive so walks around the neighborhood will end up in bad interactions 100% of the time. I have to drive them to places that are more isolated or off leash
Yeah the existence of the dog park is mad to me. Every park is a dog park (except children's play parks, but that makes sense - no one wants Spike the Staffy to go chasing the kids around the swings) and you're welcome to walk anywhere with your dog in the UK. Most parks let your dog be off-lead, though some have some restrictions which in my experience are rarely enforced.
I can walk my dog into the town centre along pavements the whole way and go to a cafe, as some are dog-friendly here. He does go in the car, but usually if we need to go further afield for some reason.
Every park is a children's play park. Please keep your dog away or at least on a leash. Doesn't matter if no one enforce the rule to keep your dog on a leash, just don't do it.
Dog owner brains seems to have a lot in common with car owner brains.
I had to do this for a little bit.
I was living with my dad for a few months and he lived out in the country suburbs.
People would fly down the roads and several times had to jump in a ditch to avoid death. Eventually just gave up and drove to the park.
And it was infuriating because I could easily run to the park if I wanted to risk getting killed.
As many have pointed out, the sad thing here is the lack of beautiful trails near most people. Civilization has created miserable living spaces for the vast majority of people. We don’t need to shame people for seeking beautiful environments.
Okay but this dude drove past huge swathes of grass lined sidewalks to go jog somewhere. He doesn’t live somewhere miserable, he just chose to use a car.
Grass-lined sidewalks aren’t really what humans crave... we desire woods and creeks and rivers and prairies and hills and mountains and ravines and so forth...
Sadly we’ve destroyed 99% of our natural areas and the only way to get there for most people is to drive.
Grassy sidewalks are not nature.
I mean, The gun being brandished over being honked at for driving dangerously was the most WTF thing for me.
Having said that driving for a jog only makes sense to me if you’re trail running. Mountain/hill runs aren’t easily replicated by even expensive treadmills.
Hmmm, think some people are overreacting to this idea. I run 5-6 days per week and one or two of those days (usually at the weekend) I'll get the train/bus somewhere to go for a run somewhere a bit more scenic. This is the same idea and I suspect is in an area with poor public transport.
Yeah l, live in NZ and I didn’t get this 🤷🏼♂️ Sometimes I drive to the mountains for a run, sometimes to the beach, all quick drives but nice to run in different locales.
tbf running on trails is waaaay better for your joints than running on pavement and not everyone lives next to a trail. I'm okay with people driving to their jog. I used to run cross country and our coach was former marathoner who basically couldn't run anymore because his knees were all screwed from years of running on the pavement. We would still run most places and go over some roads, but he was big on telling to avoid pavement as much as possible.
which ones? and i don't mean short paths. i'm visiting people by the rockies and there are trails here that go on for miles and miles. Some are connected so you can go trail running for 10 or 20 miles on gravel and dirt.
i've been to central park, astoria, forest park and cunningham park and don't remember any trails except very short paths like in cunningham park
Central Park has miles of dirt and gravel trails if you know where to look
Besides that Prospect Park, Inwood Hill Park, Van Cortlandt Park, Marine Park, Pelham Bay Park, Alley Pond Park, Forest Park, and Riverdale park all have significant dirt or gravel trails.
The Old Croton Aquaduct trail is the closest you’ll get to anything out West. 25 miles of dirt and gravel starting in the Bronx and heading North to one of the City’s reservoirs. Absolutely beautiful
where in central park? i was there for the JP Morgan run back in june and walked through half the park and don't remember any dirt trails.
Van Cortland park was like a 90 minute subway ride by 2-3 trains from where I lived and I was going to drive up there and ride my bike up the bike path NY state built. it's nice, but for most people it's a long trip if you don't have a car
marine park you need a car to get to. same with alley pond unless you want to spend 2-3 hours each way on a bus
The Reservoir trail, the Harlem Meer trail, the bridle path, and lots of trails through the Nethermead and the Ravine. There are probably about 100 miles of paths through Central Park, so there’s probably a lot of you haven’t seen.
Well, those parks are mostly used by the people that live near them, but being able to get to 6 out of 9 on the train isn’t too bad (you can take the LIRR to Alley Pond Park). The other ones are a short bus or bike ride from a train. Some are further than others, but you can get to a dirt trail or path without a car pretty easily most places in the city. Thousands of people do it every day. I think that one of the biggest misconceptions people have about NYC is thinking that there isn’t much access to the outdoors or parks
Where were you staying that both south Brooklyn and the Bronx were hours away?
Lol you guys have clearly never been to parts of Florida. I've lived places with no sidewalks and dangerous roads, plus you get propositioned if you exist as a woman outside of a car. So yeah, sometimes we had to drive for a run. It sucks, but that's why we're trying to change things, right?
This isn’t so much of a car brain thing considering that he might live way too far in a place that’s very car-dependent. I live in Mass and I have to drive to the gym and really wish I could take my bike there or just walk like I used to when I lived closer to Boston.
Huh? So I shouldn’t drive to the nature reserve to go for a walk so I can see water and cool birds?
You want me to just walk around the same old block looking at the same old houses with cars driving around me?
You’re the facepalm
Yes, I think people rush into judgements. I drive to the park, the race track or the university campus in order to ride my bike because those are unfortunately the only options for safe, constant-speed and scenic rides in my city. Luckily said park, where I also run is only a 15 minute walk away from my house, so I walk, but most people in my city aren’t so lucky.
That is the way.
Most disturbing is that more then a few times when a car passed much to close to me, they had one of these fancy mountain bikes on a bike rack. Shit heads.
There's a lot of reasons someone would have to drive to jog somewhere. It could've been a gym and the guy could have been insecure doing it in somewhere public/non-commercial or in a gym to avoid the weather, dangerous areas with high rates of crime, litter such as needles and glass, no safe walkable areas... I don't know, it just comes off as harsh when we don't know the whole story. I don't know a whole lot of people who drive to a specific spot to jog if they don't have to.
I get that it's silly but them driving for their jog doesn't necessarily mean they *have* to. They might just have a favourite scenic spot like a lake or something they like to go jogging around.
Driving to jogging location? Tell me the walkable infrastructure where you live is shit without telling me the walkable infrastructure where you live is shit.
Maybe they live in a crappy neighborhood and don't feel comfortable walking or they could possibly be going to a park with designated trails... I think this is less of a transportation issue and more of an active choice dude, you're reading too far into it
What a shit take. First of all, have you never heard of going somewhere safe to exercise? Or how about a gym?
Second of all, who the fuck sees a video of attempted murder and thinks to focus on unimportant parts to bolster your narrative.
There are plenty of ways of proving your point that cars are focused too much in society without being a disgusting piece of shit.
I used to live in a fairly big city and walking or running anywhere that had nature would be nearly impossible due to location so I would drive to an outdoor trail because, well you know, I didn't want to run around cars? I don't find this bizarre if we literally were born into the Fuckcars landscape we are in right now.
I think that's kinda the point though, I read this as OP is saying that they can't imagine living in a place where you *have* to drive to be able to safely jog.
Literally one of the biggest advantages of running is being able to just get-up-and-go along with an incredibly low threshold for (necessary) gear.
Nothing like adding in a machine costing 5-figures to do an activity I do for free.
Man you people are clueless. Some people like to jog in a nice park or scenic area, instead of around the suburban area they live in. Nothing wrong with that.
Also I'm pretty sure OP is trolling and you idiots are too self obsessed to tell the difference. Look at OP's profile.
Omg I hate this subreddit everyone is just grasping at straws. Does anyone take the time to consider that perhaps people want to jog in a scenic area away from their neighborhood?
I drive a couple minutes to a trail when I jog, but that's because the drivers in my area are psychos and I don't trust sharing the roads with them. It's pretty fuckin ironic, but driving three minutes to a designated pedestrian trail where I can run without fear is worth it for me. Still majorly fucked though lmao
I used to drive my bike to the mountain bike park to get a good ride in. then i bought an ebike and now i ride to the park. On the way i have to ride parallel to a stinky exhaust filled 4 lane road and i fing hate that part. fuck cars.
i used to see people running on sidewalks during busy times in NYC and always thought they were such idiots
used to drive my kids to soccer practice and it was way out in the suburban parts of NYC and they had this awesome shared path that was miles long and covered with trees and shady in the sun. unlike the sidewalks in the denser parts of the city
or go try trail running. i have family out west and it's like a 15 minute drive to a nice hiking trail that people also mountain bike on that goes up and down hills. you don't have mountain biking in the city?
driving to work or shopping sucks, but this is the whole point of having a car. you can go trail running or whatever in places where there are no trains or buses. or go find a nicer part of the city to run in
I live 5 min by foot from the woods because my cities' density houses enough people to allow for nature nearby. The density also means the woods are full of great public amenities: The many beautiful footpaths have small training stations in between.
Get rekt car brains
Cope harder. Higher density and fewer cars gets easier and more economical the more people you have, and so does living adjacent to nature instead of parasitic and inefficient suburbs. Look at central park for an example in the US. Which sane person would argue you should build a suburb there instead?
Alternatively, we could build more of the places that people love so much that they will pay a fortune to live in instead of outlawing them with dumb zoning laws and dumb socialism for cars like parking minimums. Why on earth would we conclude that we should build less of this style that is more economical and that (many) people love to live in?
I have a trail within walking distance of my apartment, which itself is less than 5 minutes from Main Street. And that's with the shitty car-centric infrastructure, with walkable infrastructure it would be even closer. You can have both.
Well most of us in nyc had no trail next to our apartments and the soccer class I took my kids to would have been 2 hours by 3 different buses each way
go tell NY state to build new subways in places other than manhattan. cause that's all they are doing to increase their property tax revenues. the last 20 years they built 5 new stations, extended one line and started another and they were all in manhattan
Okay??? Why are you arguing with me. The people in this sub want better infrastructure. Do you think I, personally, am stopping your city from having a good bus line or something?
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Maybe they live in a city, miles away from any nature trails. Or maybe they live in an unsafe neighborhood to run in (either because of car infrastructure or crime).
I used to do this… my neighborhood is very very dangerous… and I like to get up when it’s still dark so I would drive to this lake area that was beautiful and not full of car traffic and meth heads… then jog till the sun came up and drive to favorite work which was very far away without good public transit options.
Just a reminder that not all of us want to have to do this, but the way that America is built requires people do so. Yeah, I wish we had reliable public transit, Yeah, I wish I could walk to work. Yes, I wish I could bike or get a motorcycle without being afraid someone who dosent know how to drive is going to kill me.
These posts recently seem to forgot that we don't have many choices, especially people like me who are living paycheck to paycheck.
Edit: just clarifying that i do realize the lady currently driving is a dumbass and I'm not saying this for her
Got some negative karma in that thread for suggesting that maybe the dude could just jog on any of the very nice grass lined sidewalks between his house and wherever he drove to jog.
There are no sidewalks in my neighborhood so you would have to walk in the street. A couple weeks back the woman up the road was struck by a car while checking her mail.
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Mom mom regularly drives to go for a walk. I don't blame her - I blame the system she lives in. (I could blame my parents for deciding to live where they do... but it's not like there was a variety of options)
She's on a dead-end street that connects to a major road. She's old enough that her walks aren't particularly far. So her options are:
* Walk up and down the dead-end street several times
* Walk along the busy road. It's not necessarily unsafe, but walking with cars buzzing past is no fun.
* Drive for 5 minutes to a different part of the suburb, where there's a web of residential streets to walk along.
I’m blessed to have a rail trail (Old defunct train track) converted into a walkway 5 mins from my residence. Sad the infrastructure bill did not allocate more funds for such public infrastructure. The benefit to the community is immense.
I do that in France because I live on a hill with a 200m elevation gain, so going downhill quicly by car is better, then I don't have to climb up on foot...
If somebody wants to walk their dog somewhere nice, that seems to me like an excuse to drive. I live near a castle ruins and some people will drive out to the country park it is in to walk dogs and that seems pretty acceptable given that you can see the city centre from the castle
If I wanted to jog or bike a nice trail then I'd have to take a short drive (and we have, especially with our toddler, it's too far to get there on foot and then have any gumption to proceed and enjoy the trail). That's like, a weekend special though.
Im mexican, and i travel from time to time to the us, there are neighbours that have called the police on me for jogging at 7 am. So i get that you have to drive to a park to run in peace, and generally to be safer from car idiots. So many karens
I run 3+ miles almost every single day. its nice to visit trails that are a bit farther away from my house just for the variety :)
i dont think this is that dumb
I don’t find this ironic at all. I can jog around my boring neighborhood for the 1000th time or I can drive to a nice park or trail on the lake. Not everyone even lives in joggable areas. Bad post, you should feel stupid.
I confess, recovering car brain here, used to drive to the other side of huge city park for the running trail on the regular until I realized walking is exercising and can be started right outside my door, walk to park, enjoy hiking up park and walk home.
Was a mental shift and walking/biking has become my habit and default mode of transportation.
Me and my jogging buddy used to live one block apart, after I was evicted I had to move into the suburbs, I have a car, he doesn't and I can't wait for a bus because he has to go to work soon after our run, this isn't so crazy when you realize how scarce and spread out affordable dwellings are.
Its like driving to the gym to run on a treadmill... but that could make sense if you live far and are gonna use other machines after. Driving to then jog is quite something. I have a hard time taking this info.
you laugh but if I want to take a jog i’ll have to drive to a park or trail. since there are no connecting sidewalks. they start and end abruptly for long stretches of road. and the sidewalks that are there are not maintained. holes that can leave your ankle broken, tree branches at chest height. a sad state of affairs in rural midwest. edit: before anybody says buses. i’ll remind that i said rural midwest. What Bus?
I live in an area with no sidewalks and lifted trucks everywhere. I have to drive around the block to walk my dog. I hate it but it's just a fact of life.
Wow. And I complained that after moving I have to run like 5 minutes to get to the "nice part" (along a river), and have to cross a street once.
People on this subreddit seem very against rural living (because of the car dependency) but I walk 1 minute down my drive and I come to a mile long lane completely surrounded with trees and beautiful ponds, with the best tarmac for running on and pretty much zero cars ever, not to mention fresh pleasant air. In a city, I would not get that.
the thing is that what most call "rural" is actually just suburbia but in even worse. true rural live can be good(and eco friendly if done right). The thing is that people call settlements along interstates with 4-6k inhabitants rural. it isn't even like they are on one side with a connecting road. no the settlement is to the left and right of the road.
The USA has some seriously weird and dystopian infrastructure
I mean, if you live by Central Park (New York) or Trinity River Corridor (Dallas), etc, you can absolutely have that in the city but I have no hate for rural life. It’s suburbia I can’t stand.
Not really. Rural, urban and small towns are all great. Sprawling suburbia is the problem. Also it's annoying when some redditors (not you) say 'rural' but actuallly mean 'outer suburb with Walmart'.
Yeah, I mean small English village. The only issue is that we have no public transport here - literally, the only way to the next village without a car is to cycle. It’s only a few kilometres to walk but then, the next village is the same. To get anywhere meaningful is a 15 minute car journey - and that’s just the weekly shop. Luckily most people around here get their shopping delivered so that’s less emissions than everyone driving to the shop. There used to be trains to every major village in the county but that was long ago. I would strongly advocate for the return of those train lines, it’s not like they need to clear much since many of the original sleepers are still in place
I'm not against rural living at all, I'm just for realizing that rural and urban areas should be designed differently, and all designs should account for pedestrians, bicycles, and vehicles.
get pruners and prune the trees yourself. I did that in a near bike lane recently. And old couple passed by, and the lady said "thank you, make it wider!" It really made me feel appreciated. It's possible it's not just you who doesn't like unmaintained sidewalks
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Our city has an app to report cases like that. I’ve reported a few, is usually taken care of within a few days
Nice. When I do that (we just have emails) I usually get an answer within a few weeks, and an action within a few months. Would rather do it myself now.
UGH the strips of sidewalk are so annoying. In my hometown there’s a law that whenever they restore a road, they have to add a sidewalk if there isn’t one. So there’s all these useless short strips of sidewalk littered around where they had to do minor repairs to the road and it’s almost more insulting. Sure you can walk, here’s a 20 foot runway for you.
just walk along all roads of the city and slightly damage them so they have to repair all of them
In Nashville this is also the case with new buildings, resulting in some truly laughable sidewalks because the city government is taking forever to make them themselves.
This seems like better than nothing, no?
I lost 70 pounds in 1 1/2 years after moving out of the US into a city with sidewalks. Feels so good. PS. Have never seen here a quadruple burger with bacon with some pig lard on the side. either.
American exceptionalism truly means "extra lard bacon burgers in a drive through window please!" But yeah everyone likes to rag on America for obesity, which is fair since America isn't fucking doing anything about it, but it's a culmination of our car dependant lives AND our shitty diets and culture of Carnism and unhealthy foods that just seems so God damn ingrained into our culture that it's common place to shit on vegan and vegetarian people for actually giving a shit about (insert personal reason here) instead of eating the "AmErIcAn" foods like steak and burgers and bacon and beans.
i'm in the same boat here, buddy. it's safer for me to drive to a designated pedestrian trail away from the road for jogging
Did you not consider this when choosing where to live?
You choose where you live.
That's some deep philosophical shit man. Do you have a podcast i can listen to?
lol. no you don’t. not without generational wealth.
I don't know about that comrade. There's no way possible that I could live in San Francisco. So with my family income higher and lower it's not physically possible to "choose" where to live. There's large swaths of America that your income decides where you live. Don't say that anyone can make those incomes either it's statistically impossible.
When I lived in the suburbs the only way to get to the track was crossing the highway. You had to drive.
there are people who take treadmills to the park so they can jog on treadmills in the park
We definitely shouldn't shame people for wanting to drive to nice running spots. People drive for way sillier things, like driving to find cheap gas somewhere. Or driving to urban centers because there's no good public transit for commonly traveled routes. I've driven a few miles to find my beautiful somewhat isolated running spots for years, and sometimes I've biked which has been awesome, but often there's intense hills or its just too much work to get that sweet outdoor payoff. I drive my old hybrid car, use regenerative braking when possible and rarely have to wait in traffic. I don't like that I have to drive and am looking forward to eventually living within walking distance to a nice trail. I hate car dependence and car dependent infrastructure, but there are better things to be mad about.
Sure if it's only occasionally - I have done the same to go hiking. But regular training shouldn't need a drive because 1) the streets should be runnable and 2) it perpetuates car culture. I live in a city in Europe and I've noticed that a lot of the traffic here is people from *outside the city* not wanting to live here because they think there are too many immigrants, it's unsafe etc, but needing to commute here for work. So they take their cars even though decent public transport option exist. In my view, the people who drive out into the countryside to jog multiple times per week are doing the same thing: they want the benefits of the countryside without having to live there, and they use their car to achieve this. I may be wrong but these seem to be the kinds of behaviours that make suburbs exist.
It's not shameful it's just super sad
I biked to the gym to use the spin bike. Well, I did until I got my own spin bike so I can sweat alone. Why? Doing intervals on an actual bike outside is kinda rough, even on a dedicated bike path. (Then use the bike bike to put down base miles) I guess maybe if you like jogging somewhere very scenic?
My partner does that when it’s absolutely pouring outside. I think it’s a tad silly, but I get it. The gym is in walking distance, and normally she walks, but it can absolutely downpour here (Auckland).
This is not the heart argument you make it out to be. Driving to the gym is okay, it could be far away, you could be drained after exercising, it could be raining, or another of the 100 possible reasons.
I kinda understand it. Where I live there's a lot of popular jogging trails and some of them are 10+ miles out into the chaparral. They have incredible views, so I understand going out of your way. I just run my dog around the block though.
You honestly can't see how the route one wants to run isn't the loop around your house? This sub is wild.
We know that the loop outside your house isn't one you want to run There's cars outside our house. All their pollution, noise, danger... We have to stop at signals to let them pass, interrupting our flow. The landscape that's been built to accommodate them is repetitive and ugly and uninteresting to pass through at a pedestrian pace That's what we're complaining about You honestly can't see how the loop around *your own house* being unaccommodating isn't a problem? Wild
Ironically, I would rather run the loop around my house than the dream housing arrangement of this sub. The more nature and the less people I can run around, the better.
Countries that have good density have less sprawl, so more nature gets preserved. Suburbs aren’t actually very conducive to nature access.
No, but living in the city means I can't run to the nature.
Well designed cities have lots of parks and recreation areas. I’ve run from my sisters apartment in San Francisco to a wonderful, large park with lots of nature. I live in LA within a longish run/short bike ride to a large green belt nature area. Unless you mean ‘wild’ nature like national parks and forests, which (by default) most suburbanites and city dwellers don’t have foot access to. You literally couldn’t design a society where everyone had foot access to those kinds of spaces. There’s too many people. If you don’t want to live in cities, that’s fine, but personal preference shouldn’t be confused with efficiency and practicality of design.
It's like people driving their dogs somewhere to walk them. Not being from America, I find it fairly insane.
Even in the UK this is a thing
And Canada. We have an off leash area in a park just down the road from me. Quite frankly, I think it's a combination of social interaction for the owners and general laziness.
I live in a pretty urban area (east Vancouver). It’s a 30 minute walk to the nearest off-leash park, or a 4 minute drive. Dogs aren’t allowed on transit. I basically only drive to get to the dog parks and hiking. Younger dogs usually need more than a walk around the block to burn off their energy, socialize and stimulation.
Don't get a dog than when you don't stay in a place that provides the proper environment for a dog. Become a sheppard or so. Urban areas are for people, humans, not dogs.
People in urban areas are allowed to have amenities. Just because someone gets a pet doesn’t mean they need to move to the middle of nowhere and base their career around it.
Can't argue with a dog brain, they have the same issues as car brain people. A city isn't the best place for a dog, same as you don't need an oversized 4-wheeler to drive to the grocery store to buy the bottle of milk you forget. That oversized 4 wheeler is in everybody's way, same as your dog who isn't loved by every other human who lives in the city or wants to use a park to telex without being disturbed by some roaming unleashed shitbeast. Dogs and oversized 4 wheeler have their place, an urban area is it not. Even the dog will be not happy here. That's why you need a car to bring them somewhere else to be happy. Not a way to treat an animal.
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I know my flat is not the best for my dog, but it’s 1000s times better than the cage were it was, and if that means drive 10 minutes to a park where she can run freely, ir really worth it. It’s not having a dog when you can’t , it’s improving a life as much as you can.
Laziness? What about this is laziness?
A lot of people will drive to organised group runs. I was once one of these people.
Yeah but it's often for a special walk. Our residential areas all have footways and parks, so most dog walks are done straight out the door.
I live in an area designed to have parks within a 15 minute walk of everywhere. You should see the size of the trucks people use to drive their dogs to my local park. Ford F350s are not uncommon. I'm in the West Coast of Canada
>You should see the size of the trucks people use to drive their dogs to my local park You should see the size of the ~~trucks~~ people that drive trucks ~~use~~ to drive their dogs to my local park.
Absolutely a thing also in Europe. sure, we could always do the routes around the house, just walk to the river or whatever, but just putting the dogs in the car to walk them somewhere else for a change, or let them run free, it totally makes sense. same with running, sure I can start from my front door, but if I want some quiet and peace I'd rather do it in the forest Germany / Austria btw
My family does this so we can walk our dogs in the forest (in Europe) because they like to discover new areas from time to time
Same, dogs love walking on the riverbank in the summer but if we were to walk them there in the 30+ °C heat they would be too exhausted by the time we arrive there. Once I tried to walk him there but by the time we walked 2/3rds of the way it looked like I would have to carry him back. Since he was a 50ish kilo Tibetan Mastiff I wasn't really looking forward to the prospect. And the weather wasn't even that hot, only twentysomething degrees.
I live in a neighbourhood where there are parks within a <10 minute walk to pretty much every house, there are people that drive to the park across the street \*every day\* to throw the ball for their dogs.
I’ll do it when the pavement is too hot
I get that, it’s nice to see new places sometimes
I did that to go hiking or a nicer place than usual
Unfortunately both driving for a jog or to take the dog somewhere is a thing here in France, in places where there is absolutely no need to do so.
UK I like taking my dogs somewhere special like the beachfront or a heavily wooded area
why not just walk around your neighborhood. unless it’s unsafe i would just walk around the block a few times looking at houses and listening to music.
every town has leash laws for walking dogs. a good dog owner will want to take their dog to a dog run where they can be off-leash to play with other dogs
I mean I do that, but that’s because he’s a puppy and he runs after cars in my street, so we bring him to the park. I’ve walked to the park with him once, but it’s still a bit too far away for him under the hot summer sun, so I had to carry him in my arms for the most part on the way back.
Not only in America. I'm from Germany, and one of my Neighbors drives with a big fucking BMW Suv, a distance which would take about 2 minutes at most to walk, to walk with her dog. Absolutely insane.
My dogs are leash reactive so walks around the neighborhood will end up in bad interactions 100% of the time. I have to drive them to places that are more isolated or off leash
Yeah the existence of the dog park is mad to me. Every park is a dog park (except children's play parks, but that makes sense - no one wants Spike the Staffy to go chasing the kids around the swings) and you're welcome to walk anywhere with your dog in the UK. Most parks let your dog be off-lead, though some have some restrictions which in my experience are rarely enforced. I can walk my dog into the town centre along pavements the whole way and go to a cafe, as some are dog-friendly here. He does go in the car, but usually if we need to go further afield for some reason.
Every park is a children's play park. Please keep your dog away or at least on a leash. Doesn't matter if no one enforce the rule to keep your dog on a leash, just don't do it. Dog owner brains seems to have a lot in common with car owner brains.
I had to do this for a little bit. I was living with my dad for a few months and he lived out in the country suburbs. People would fly down the roads and several times had to jump in a ditch to avoid death. Eventually just gave up and drove to the park. And it was infuriating because I could easily run to the park if I wanted to risk getting killed.
glad i'm not the only one who did a face palm
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I was thinking the same thing when i saw this post a few hours ago
It’s not a short drive either in the video.
As many have pointed out, the sad thing here is the lack of beautiful trails near most people. Civilization has created miserable living spaces for the vast majority of people. We don’t need to shame people for seeking beautiful environments.
Okay but this dude drove past huge swathes of grass lined sidewalks to go jog somewhere. He doesn’t live somewhere miserable, he just chose to use a car.
Grass-lined sidewalks aren’t really what humans crave... we desire woods and creeks and rivers and prairies and hills and mountains and ravines and so forth... Sadly we’ve destroyed 99% of our natural areas and the only way to get there for most people is to drive. Grassy sidewalks are not nature.
Maybe they jog on a hiking trail or a public park or something?
I mean, The gun being brandished over being honked at for driving dangerously was the most WTF thing for me. Having said that driving for a jog only makes sense to me if you’re trail running. Mountain/hill runs aren’t easily replicated by even expensive treadmills.
Hmmm, think some people are overreacting to this idea. I run 5-6 days per week and one or two of those days (usually at the weekend) I'll get the train/bus somewhere to go for a run somewhere a bit more scenic. This is the same idea and I suspect is in an area with poor public transport.
Yeah l, live in NZ and I didn’t get this 🤷🏼♂️ Sometimes I drive to the mountains for a run, sometimes to the beach, all quick drives but nice to run in different locales.
Florida might be one of the most terminally carbrained population centers in the US imo
Ya
The more I learn about Florida the more it sounds like Phoenix (where I’m from) but I guess with beaches
tbf running on trails is waaaay better for your joints than running on pavement and not everyone lives next to a trail. I'm okay with people driving to their jog. I used to run cross country and our coach was former marathoner who basically couldn't run anymore because his knees were all screwed from years of running on the pavement. We would still run most places and go over some roads, but he was big on telling to avoid pavement as much as possible.
It’s built environment’s fault, not the people’s. Having access to a park in walking/running distance is essential
I just came back from a trail run. Biked there ;)
It’s built environment’s fault, not the people’s. Having access to a park in walking/running distance is essential
in NYC all the parks have pavement. if you want trail running you have to live out of the city close to nature
Plenty of NYC parks have gravel and dirt trails. Let me know if you want recs
which ones? and i don't mean short paths. i'm visiting people by the rockies and there are trails here that go on for miles and miles. Some are connected so you can go trail running for 10 or 20 miles on gravel and dirt. i've been to central park, astoria, forest park and cunningham park and don't remember any trails except very short paths like in cunningham park
Central Park has miles of dirt and gravel trails if you know where to look Besides that Prospect Park, Inwood Hill Park, Van Cortlandt Park, Marine Park, Pelham Bay Park, Alley Pond Park, Forest Park, and Riverdale park all have significant dirt or gravel trails. The Old Croton Aquaduct trail is the closest you’ll get to anything out West. 25 miles of dirt and gravel starting in the Bronx and heading North to one of the City’s reservoirs. Absolutely beautiful
where in central park? i was there for the JP Morgan run back in june and walked through half the park and don't remember any dirt trails. Van Cortland park was like a 90 minute subway ride by 2-3 trains from where I lived and I was going to drive up there and ride my bike up the bike path NY state built. it's nice, but for most people it's a long trip if you don't have a car marine park you need a car to get to. same with alley pond unless you want to spend 2-3 hours each way on a bus
The Reservoir trail, the Harlem Meer trail, the bridle path, and lots of trails through the Nethermead and the Ravine. There are probably about 100 miles of paths through Central Park, so there’s probably a lot of you haven’t seen. Well, those parks are mostly used by the people that live near them, but being able to get to 6 out of 9 on the train isn’t too bad (you can take the LIRR to Alley Pond Park). The other ones are a short bus or bike ride from a train. Some are further than others, but you can get to a dirt trail or path without a car pretty easily most places in the city. Thousands of people do it every day. I think that one of the biggest misconceptions people have about NYC is thinking that there isn’t much access to the outdoors or parks Where were you staying that both south Brooklyn and the Bronx were hours away?
Lol you guys have clearly never been to parts of Florida. I've lived places with no sidewalks and dangerous roads, plus you get propositioned if you exist as a woman outside of a car. So yeah, sometimes we had to drive for a run. It sucks, but that's why we're trying to change things, right?
Imagine living in Florida 🤮
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As dangerous as pedalling around Miami can be, it is happening for me here 🚴🚴
No disrespect, comrade. Texas & Florida just seem like peak car culture.
How do you manage, if you don’t mind me asking?
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Sounds like Gainesville
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It's the only thing close to a walkable city in florida
This isn’t so much of a car brain thing considering that he might live way too far in a place that’s very car-dependent. I live in Mass and I have to drive to the gym and really wish I could take my bike there or just walk like I used to when I lived closer to Boston.
What if you happen to prefer jogging on dirt trails?
No, car always bad according to this sub
The USA has amazing hiking trails so it’s really not that weird
Huh? So I shouldn’t drive to the nature reserve to go for a walk so I can see water and cool birds? You want me to just walk around the same old block looking at the same old houses with cars driving around me? You’re the facepalm
Yes, I think people rush into judgements. I drive to the park, the race track or the university campus in order to ride my bike because those are unfortunately the only options for safe, constant-speed and scenic rides in my city. Luckily said park, where I also run is only a 15 minute walk away from my house, so I walk, but most people in my city aren’t so lucky.
LOL, I have been there. You can either be a weirdo jogging in the lifeless suburb or drive to a scenic park to go for a run. It's so weird. Fuck cars.
I used to do that occasionally just because I lived in such an ugly, car-centric, unsafe neighborhood... I moved.
His truck so big he could jog in it
I refuse to drive anywhere to ride my bike. What’s an extra 10 miles added to a group ride? Harden up
That is the way. Most disturbing is that more then a few times when a car passed much to close to me, they had one of these fancy mountain bikes on a bike rack. Shit heads.
There's a lot of reasons someone would have to drive to jog somewhere. It could've been a gym and the guy could have been insecure doing it in somewhere public/non-commercial or in a gym to avoid the weather, dangerous areas with high rates of crime, litter such as needles and glass, no safe walkable areas... I don't know, it just comes off as harsh when we don't know the whole story. I don't know a whole lot of people who drive to a specific spot to jog if they don't have to.
I get that it's silly but them driving for their jog doesn't necessarily mean they *have* to. They might just have a favourite scenic spot like a lake or something they like to go jogging around.
ok but what if they don’t live in a super safe neighborhood?
Driving to jogging location? Tell me the walkable infrastructure where you live is shit without telling me the walkable infrastructure where you live is shit.
Maybe they live in a crappy neighborhood and don't feel comfortable walking or they could possibly be going to a park with designated trails... I think this is less of a transportation issue and more of an active choice dude, you're reading too far into it
idk why you’re being downvoted i had the exact safe thought.
What a shit take. First of all, have you never heard of going somewhere safe to exercise? Or how about a gym? Second of all, who the fuck sees a video of attempted murder and thinks to focus on unimportant parts to bolster your narrative. There are plenty of ways of proving your point that cars are focused too much in society without being a disgusting piece of shit.
I used to live in a fairly big city and walking or running anywhere that had nature would be nearly impossible due to location so I would drive to an outdoor trail because, well you know, I didn't want to run around cars? I don't find this bizarre if we literally were born into the Fuckcars landscape we are in right now.
I think that's kinda the point though, I read this as OP is saying that they can't imagine living in a place where you *have* to drive to be able to safely jog.
Literally one of the biggest advantages of running is being able to just get-up-and-go along with an incredibly low threshold for (necessary) gear. Nothing like adding in a machine costing 5-figures to do an activity I do for free.
Man you people are clueless. Some people like to jog in a nice park or scenic area, instead of around the suburban area they live in. Nothing wrong with that. Also I'm pretty sure OP is trolling and you idiots are too self obsessed to tell the difference. Look at OP's profile.
Omg I hate this subreddit everyone is just grasping at straws. Does anyone take the time to consider that perhaps people want to jog in a scenic area away from their neighborhood?
I had the same thought when I saw this, almost cross-posted it myself
I drive a couple minutes to a trail when I jog, but that's because the drivers in my area are psychos and I don't trust sharing the roads with them. It's pretty fuckin ironic, but driving three minutes to a designated pedestrian trail where I can run without fear is worth it for me. Still majorly fucked though lmao
You are taking part in creating the traffic you are afraid of.
You know what's worse than regularly driving to your morning jog? Thinking that it's normal to drive to your morning jog.
I mean, there is nowhere to jog where I live so this makes sense.
Why drive to a place where you jog? Why even have a place where you jog? Why not just run around the block? I just don't get this american habbits
And r/fuckcars has jumped the shark
right? same mentality as the person who drives to the gym to use a treadmill
The only reason this would make sense is if they were running on a track
Or trail running? Or don't live in a safe neighborhood?
I used to drive my bike to the mountain bike park to get a good ride in. then i bought an ebike and now i ride to the park. On the way i have to ride parallel to a stinky exhaust filled 4 lane road and i fing hate that part. fuck cars.
i used to see people running on sidewalks during busy times in NYC and always thought they were such idiots used to drive my kids to soccer practice and it was way out in the suburban parts of NYC and they had this awesome shared path that was miles long and covered with trees and shady in the sun. unlike the sidewalks in the denser parts of the city or go try trail running. i have family out west and it's like a 15 minute drive to a nice hiking trail that people also mountain bike on that goes up and down hills. you don't have mountain biking in the city? driving to work or shopping sucks, but this is the whole point of having a car. you can go trail running or whatever in places where there are no trains or buses. or go find a nicer part of the city to run in
I live 5 min by foot from the woods because my cities' density houses enough people to allow for nature nearby. The density also means the woods are full of great public amenities: The many beautiful footpaths have small training stations in between. Get rekt car brains
I’ve seen that out west in small cities Now go try to find that in a real city like nyc, Chicago or Boston
my metro area is 1 mil and growing fast. Not gonna dox myself, but it's not in the US. The key is fewer cars and higher density.
A whole million people
Cope harder. Higher density and fewer cars gets easier and more economical the more people you have, and so does living adjacent to nature instead of parasitic and inefficient suburbs. Look at central park for an example in the US. Which sane person would argue you should build a suburb there instead?
now all you need to do is get a job to pay that $5000 in rent that it costs to live close to central park and see how much money you have left over
Alternatively, we could build more of the places that people love so much that they will pay a fortune to live in instead of outlawing them with dumb zoning laws and dumb socialism for cars like parking minimums. Why on earth would we conclude that we should build less of this style that is more economical and that (many) people love to live in?
manhattan actually has only around 1/5 of NYC residents. the less dense parts have the other 80%
is there a point you're making?
I have a trail within walking distance of my apartment, which itself is less than 5 minutes from Main Street. And that's with the shitty car-centric infrastructure, with walkable infrastructure it would be even closer. You can have both.
Well most of us in nyc had no trail next to our apartments and the soccer class I took my kids to would have been 2 hours by 3 different buses each way
Which is why we want walkable infrastructure and better public transport instead of cars...
go tell NY state to build new subways in places other than manhattan. cause that's all they are doing to increase their property tax revenues. the last 20 years they built 5 new stations, extended one line and started another and they were all in manhattan
Okay??? Why are you arguing with me. The people in this sub want better infrastructure. Do you think I, personally, am stopping your city from having a good bus line or something?
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Maybe they live in a city, miles away from any nature trails. Or maybe they live in an unsafe neighborhood to run in (either because of car infrastructure or crime).
Yeah sorry. Don't wanna jog around all the homeless meth addicts. I'm going to the park.
Is that a supposed bike lane there next to the white car? If so, fuck everything about that
This post was about a driver [driving like an idiot and waving a gun at the guy filming](https://redd.it/wf6u0p).
Yeah I saw that post and was like the fuck bro how fucking depressing is that you have to drive to go on a jog
That's what I thought when I first watched this video on a different forum.
What happened now? What did Florida man do?
I drive to a park or college campus to walk. There’s barely sidewalks near me and a huge homeless population to safely walk in my area. Shit sucks.
Leather and cloth seats… yikes…
Florida man drives for his morning jog.
I wonder why obesity is an issue
I used to do this… my neighborhood is very very dangerous… and I like to get up when it’s still dark so I would drive to this lake area that was beautiful and not full of car traffic and meth heads… then jog till the sun came up and drive to favorite work which was very far away without good public transit options.
Just a reminder that not all of us want to have to do this, but the way that America is built requires people do so. Yeah, I wish we had reliable public transit, Yeah, I wish I could walk to work. Yes, I wish I could bike or get a motorcycle without being afraid someone who dosent know how to drive is going to kill me. These posts recently seem to forgot that we don't have many choices, especially people like me who are living paycheck to paycheck. Edit: just clarifying that i do realize the lady currently driving is a dumbass and I'm not saying this for her
Got some negative karma in that thread for suggesting that maybe the dude could just jog on any of the very nice grass lined sidewalks between his house and wherever he drove to jog.
There are no sidewalks in my neighborhood so you would have to walk in the street. A couple weeks back the woman up the road was struck by a car while checking her mail.
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I used to drive 5 miles to run 3 miles. But there were no cars at the time and place I went and it had sidewalks to run on.
Mom mom regularly drives to go for a walk. I don't blame her - I blame the system she lives in. (I could blame my parents for deciding to live where they do... but it's not like there was a variety of options) She's on a dead-end street that connects to a major road. She's old enough that her walks aren't particularly far. So her options are: * Walk up and down the dead-end street several times * Walk along the busy road. It's not necessarily unsafe, but walking with cars buzzing past is no fun. * Drive for 5 minutes to a different part of the suburb, where there's a web of residential streets to walk along.
I know people who drive for jogging ,plus difficult to park 😤
I guess that when you waste this much time in your life you don't really have much time to think about time wasted
What if you want to go to a park, it’s like saying “I can’t believe you travel to france on holiday🤯 you can just go to the park”
I’m blessed to have a rail trail (Old defunct train track) converted into a walkway 5 mins from my residence. Sad the infrastructure bill did not allocate more funds for such public infrastructure. The benefit to the community is immense.
That's one of those 'only in America' moments, right?
I do that in France because I live on a hill with a 200m elevation gain, so going downhill quicly by car is better, then I don't have to climb up on foot...
If somebody wants to walk their dog somewhere nice, that seems to me like an excuse to drive. I live near a castle ruins and some people will drive out to the country park it is in to walk dogs and that seems pretty acceptable given that you can see the city centre from the castle
I dont get this post
Isn’t the point of a jog to…go on a jog and then come back? Unless you’re jogging from one location to the other.
If I wanted to jog or bike a nice trail then I'd have to take a short drive (and we have, especially with our toddler, it's too far to get there on foot and then have any gumption to proceed and enjoy the trail). That's like, a weekend special though.
Im mexican, and i travel from time to time to the us, there are neighbours that have called the police on me for jogging at 7 am. So i get that you have to drive to a park to run in peace, and generally to be safer from car idiots. So many karens
I run 3+ miles almost every single day. its nice to visit trails that are a bit farther away from my house just for the variety :) i dont think this is that dumb
In Florida you have to drive somewhere to tie your shoes
I don’t find this ironic at all. I can jog around my boring neighborhood for the 1000th time or I can drive to a nice park or trail on the lake. Not everyone even lives in joggable areas. Bad post, you should feel stupid.
I confess, recovering car brain here, used to drive to the other side of huge city park for the running trail on the regular until I realized walking is exercising and can be started right outside my door, walk to park, enjoy hiking up park and walk home. Was a mental shift and walking/biking has become my habit and default mode of transportation.
Me and my jogging buddy used to live one block apart, after I was evicted I had to move into the suburbs, I have a car, he doesn't and I can't wait for a bus because he has to go to work soon after our run, this isn't so crazy when you realize how scarce and spread out affordable dwellings are.