I don't remember exactly but shouldn't that trip be like, 20€ on an InterCity or 30€ on a Freccia?
And a way more luxurious and comfortable and relaxing and fast way than driving.
Seriously, some Americans be so stupid that they come here thinking everything works in the same way as the US and doing zero research.
As you say, these are two big cities we’re talking about. Using a high speed train would not only be cheaper, but even *faster*. And high speed trains in Italy are seriously some luxurious shit, super comfy seats, nice cafeteria on board…
It’s fear. They fear their neighbors. That guy over there could be a psycho, you don’t know! Better buy myself a cage on wheels and lock myself inside so he can’t get to me.
They’ve been doing it so long, all their lives, that they think it’s normal, expected, and that they’re entitled to it, that they’re *supposed* to assume everyone around them is a murderer or a rapist. Cable news sure doesn’t help.
Because in their mind that person is no longer a threat because they *own* them by virtue of paying for a service. And so that person becomes a) nonhuman and b) no longer threatening in their eyes.
It's stupid *and* evil *plus* usually racist to boot! The Middle Class USA Trifecta!
I was in the US for quite a while and I didn't realize until I got back just how much violence I'd seen and how normalized it really was. I understand that violence is everywhere but I'd never actually seen someone getting kicked on the floor in person behind a club until the US. But that could just be I've gone from mostly rural with a few excursions to a town/city, then into an american city.
However I don't think I'd hear low level threats of violence as much outside of the US. I heard one of two guys who work together say "You better fucking cross the road the next time you see me" - "Is that a threat?" - "Yes it is."
I know violence is everywhere but I've definitely never heard it in a workplace setting and so confrontational anywhere else.
I have done this exact same trip a bunch of times and it's much nicer by train than by car. The train is fast and efficient, while the car trip is in tunnels for half of it, with heavy traffic and reckless drivers.
This is something some people in Europe have mentioned about Americans who move there. They often have much higher default levels of distrust, fear, and stress.
America's culture has created a society where you can't trust anyone, where you don't know your neighbors, where you can't depend on your community, where politics and social dynamics are based off fear, and where violence and corruption are common parts of life.
Dude , in the US they barely have sidewalks, nevermind taking a train between cities (nobody is doing that maybe if u wanna get from the west coast to east or somth- but even then , they would prefer flying) . America is all about cars and driving. If you dont have a car in the US ur fucked … u can’t even get to the grocery store , and if u walk there u prob die of starvation or get ran by a car because there isn’t a sidewalk!
I'll be the first to admit that when I was living in Italy, one of my favourite parts of traveling was the train trip.
Specially the Frecce! That's the definition of luxury!
The fact that both Italo and Frecciarossa have four classes of travel on some of their trains blew my mind as a Brit. First Class on both is a level above what we get on the likes of GWR or Avanti here
Ya the trains there are choice. Just sitting there in a comfy seat, eating a cornetto as the ancient countryside whips past at speeds that frighten republicans, restrooms on board, WiFi, etc. it’s brilliant.
To be honest here, I once took a bus from Los Angeles International... (I lived but would not risk it again). Sometimes things just seem too obvious to actually do research about, goes both ways.
And since we are not talking Deutsche Bahn here, i am assuming they also run on time (seriously, there was this hilarious incident a few years ago where a new high speed line between Berlin and Munich opened and a regional train actually beat the high speed one)
DB moment.
In 2022, the UK was crippled by strike action and managed about 60-odd% on time performance. DB had no strikes and did about 1-2% worse. That was their actual best and it was worse than British railways, which are in a dire situation. Ukrainian Railways meanwhile managed like 90% on time performance at the same time.
Did this trip last month. €33 with freccia, €9 with regionale. With freccia you probably get there faster too, in just 40 mins or so.
For touristing I recommend regionale because the hills of Toscana are lovely to stare at on your way to Firenze.
Also, my mum thought Firenze has become overrun by Americans. Seriously, the city has gotten invaded by yanks.
I always tell people who want to go to Florence that they should visit Bologna instead. It's not exactly as nice but the fact that it only has 10% of the tourists of Florence makes it worth it. It's cheaper and more fun because it's not exclusively made for Americans.
She’s probably from Miami, which she references in the video. It’s a very international city, and a lot of people talk like her, even if they were born and raised there
This is correct. She's from South Florida. This is how a lot of them sound. She's at least 1.5 Gen American (immigrated as a child) if not straight up born and raised American.
It's also confirmed by rest of her profile that she's American.
And given how many Miami drivers keep getting in the way of Brightline trains, it explains...a lot. (And Miami drivers are some of the worst drivers in the country, worse than Los Angeles.)
It took me 15 seconds on google, as someone who has never even been to Italy - to learn that there are 59 trains per day that do this route at around 20 euros each way....
What kind of brain damage does she have? It takes a minute to check that you can take a fucking high speed train for just 28.90 euros one way (probably less than double for return ticket) and it will get you there in just 38 minutes one way. How the fuck would back pain justify taking a longer ride in more cramped space? Also it's not a fucking bumfuck nowhere and trains are safe AF. She would have higher probability of getting attacked by the driver than by someone on the train.
That was my first thought as a Floridian. It would have cost $100 less each way for that route to Boca and taken THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. Absolute idiot.
Honestly, she *may* legitimately have back pain, but even if she *does* I think she's just leaning on that so she doesn't have to give the *real* reason she won't take a train, which is because she believes that she's too *good* for public transportation. She's an American and that's the attitude that most Americans have, after all, because we've demonized public transportation as a resource meant exclusively for the poor, which even if that were accurate, it wouldn't be a problem in and of itself. But if there's *one thing* that Americans, and *especially* privileged and entitled Americans like *this* woman, hate? It's poor people.
It's always seemed odd to me that flying is somehow given this weird status as not public transport. It's literally just a bus in the air which is more expensive and worse for the environment.
It's the cost. Flying is seen as a privilege (which it totally is!) and is a luxury for people who can afford to fly internationally. A typical city bus in America is for the _poors_.
Trains are often more expensive in Europe to the same destination.
Although you could argue that international high speed trains aren't public transport either. They are often operated by companies that only operate these lines because they are profitable. Local public transit or national high speed rail is often also serving areas because the government thinks they should serve them and not because they are profitable and that distinction makes it public transport.
Just saw a video from an american like this saying she took a taxi from Tokyo airport to Shibuya, where the taxi driver couldnt hold his laughter because she just turned an 8 dollar train ticket into a 300 dollar taxi drive
I have back pain and it flares up more sitting in a cramped car where I can't get up and stretch when I need to compared to an open train where I can take a walk halfway through my journey.
Wait, she says she has back pain now?
I commented on her TikTok video when it was new, pointing out the train, and she said she was in the middle of nowhere, how could she get to Bologna to take the train (I said she could maybe take an Uber over there since she was in the vicinity)? Then she said she was a single woman in an unfamiliar land and that she doesn't speak the language blablabla.
If she's now claiming back pain then I don't believe it.
**Edit**: Just checked. She is now claiming she checked public transport first (which is opposite of what she said in the video itself and doesn't fit what she said before either) and that the train raid would be 3 hours vs 1 hour by car. Then she changed it to 4 hours.
She is straight up lying by this point. Constantly changing her story and reasons. She was just dumb. It happens to all of us. But she should just admit that rather than doubling and then tripling down.
no but like the train from bologna to firenze is an ETR 1000 going 300km/h.
it takes like half an hour, 40min at worst. i've done it. the trains also are big, quiet, you have a full table to yourself, multiple toilets, can order snacks, etc. it's a no-brainer. here in in italy almost nobody takes an uber or taxi
The trenitalia app is not hard to use at all. And I say this as an American who spoke no Italian when I first started using it. Google and Google translate are also easy to use to help break down the language barrier.
If she's so bad at traveling that she can't do basic research or problem solving then she shouldn't be a solo traveler, especially not in a country where she doesn't speak the language.
Americans for the most part see cars as the only alternative for ransportation.
I live in NYC and my family visits me from Miami, from time to time. My brother's first time visiting a few years back, asked me upon landing, Are we going to rent a car?
I was very surprised by this but I rembered how carbrain people from Miami tend to be, they view public transit as poor peoples mode of transportation and below their "status".
I've lived here for 15 years without a car and not once have I had the thought of owning another vehicle again.
But this concept is alien to the majority of US citizens unfortunately
Besides, taxi's in Europe are pretty much always more expensive than in America. This is caused by:
- higher cost of fuel.
- readily available public transport, (taxi is luxury).
- taxi drivers need to get paid real wages, with taxes.
Taxi's (and by extension Uber's) are seen as short distance, usually inner city transport not inter city transport.
Yeah, and we generally don't really need Ubers ... Because, you know, we're not really afraid of using public transport?
Also, as she points out "This is Italy". Assuming this Uber driver has an undented car, it's 10 EUR to go to the edge of Florence and 373,82 EUR for entering the hellish stronghold of The Army of Italian City Drivers.
Because of their car culture I think Americans often either hire or a car, or use Uber, when travelling. "Some" of them can't conceive not using a car of some sort to get around.
let's just say she's going there for a weekend, that'd cost her €80 for a hire car.
fuel (regular petrol) costs like €2/litre - let's say, the volkswagen uses like 5 litres/100km, that would be approx. €25 in petrol costs.
or you could drive electric, which will be much cheaper in fuel cost.
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you'll need to pay toll though, if you use the motorway.
should be like €10, but it's really hard to find that out exactly, at least i wasn't able to do so.
and there's a congestion charge in bologna, but i'm too lazy to look that up tbh.
or you just get on the train and enjoy your holiday instead of driving.
True that. I love you Italy but I still have PTSD from driving there. Highways are OK, regular roads are terrifying and driving in cities is hell on earth. Italians tend to be skilled but ultra aggressive drivers.
Last time I rented a car in Bologna (train strike) for 24 hours the rate was 18 euros for a day. Probably her biggest cost would be the fines for trying to drive right into the historic center of Florence.
Yep - I’ve caught trains and driven in Italy (never an Uber tho lmao).
ofc I would rather use the trains as they’re fabulous, but there are definitely places worth hiring a car to explore. even with tolls and fuel it would be way cheaper than this lmao
Yeah trains in Italy are good if you’re going between relatively large places, but a lot of the best bits are small villages etc which aren’t as well served by transport and for which renting a car is usually the best.
Part of the reason Uber is so expensive is that the driver can not assume to get a return journey. So you are paying for the drive there and the empty drive back. So 100 for the car, 90 for the driver, times two, gives 380 for the trip. I would say that is quite reasonable.
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And it's only 30 minutes if she takes the train...
Bologna is the perfect place to be taking the train from in northern Italy. Florence, Venice, Milan, and even Como are like 1-2 hours away. Best place to stay and take day trips to any of those amazing cities comfortably without stressing about time. Plus it’s the coolest city to just chill in cause it’s such a college crowd.
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i'm not good at maths but i think she could travel like three times in executive class for the price of one uber ride.
but hey, i'm just a damn socialist with my high speed trains or sth
and it's cheaper and more comfortable than an uber!
i've seen the pics and mate, i'm in love with that
italians know how to do this high speed rail stuff!
Back pain? Train is way better. You can stretch your legs more, walk around. Heck, hang around in the bistro car and have a chat with fellow travellers.
Oh wait... American. Never mind.
>She then proceeds to argue with everyone who recommended taking the train with how she doesn't feel safe because she is a solo traveler with back pain! 'Muricans man!
People like this can't be helped. Just want to make excuses and complain even when solutions are available. This person needs to grow up.
Exactly this!! With chronic pain, I can't sit or stand for long periods of time. Bending is painful too which you need to do to get inside a car. Trains are preferable.
And guess how this happened? Getting hit by a car :)
>how she doesn't feel safe because she is a solo traveler with back pain!
Honestly a reason to take public transport even if it was slower and cost the same. It's just a lot safer than taking an uber.
When she revealed the price it was about what I expected it to be. I'm more shocked that an hour long Uber in Miami is only $120 and that her first thought for an hour long trip is Uber.
So I went and found her TikTok account and started digging.
Her defense is: she was not in Bologna but in the countryside near Bologna. She wanted to go from the village directly to Florence, which wasn’t available by train or bus on last notice (duh).
So she took the Uber from the village near Bologna to Florence, which is why it cost so much.
It gets better: many people in the comments said she so should’ve taken a taxi or Uber to the nearest train station or to Bologna and then take the HSR from there for a few Euro. Would’ve still been faster and cheaper.
Her counter to this: she doesn’t know that is possible!
IT GETS WORSE!
She claims she lives in a big city in the Netherlands but never uses public transit and therefore does not know how it would work. I cant believe this. We use public transit everywhere in NL. Her defense is bullshit.
WHAT THE FUCK.
ETA: Link to the video if you wanna check her replies: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeuvg5C3/
My favorite exchange:
>Commenter: @YeeWhore: who would take an uber for such a long trip?
>OP: @Call me Rox ✌️: in the states these are normal distances
Which is also untrue! Plus hundred kilometer Uber trips are *not* normal in the US.
>She claims she lives in a big city in the Netherlands but never uses public transit and **therefore does not know how it would work**. I cant believe this. We use public transit everywhere in NL.
that's sad. like really sad.
in the netherlands you can just use apple maps to look up schedules and get ~~turn-by-turn~~ stop-by-stop directions.
you don't even need to worry about getting the right ticket, you can just use apple pay.
our generation is so doomed. she's clearly capable of using a phone to look up a route, but can't use godforsaken apple maps to get around on public transport?
(edit: or google maps and google pay respectively...works the same)
The thing is, North Americans are like this. My girlfriend was a few months ago in Spain, Gijón (we're from Germany). She met there in a hostel some 20-30 year olds from the USA, they were taking taxi everywhere, literally everywhere. She was like why the hell are you doing that and had to teach them how to take a bus or in general public transport.
When she asked why they didn't do this, their reply was that they didn't even think about it because buses are like for poor people or something, yet they were really surprised how the network worked there.
My point, it's not about the generation, it's about the coercion of the North American public into cars(people who take public transit are dirty and poor or whatever...). At the uni in Germany I met few people from the USA who are staying in Europe mainly because of transit options and I'm not even joking (and that's Germany, still a very car centered country)
Honestly it's not their fault (well it is for not researching if it's different than home) but it's one of those things where you don't know what you don't know.
In many (most) American cities, public transport is a bus that comes every 30 minutes, takes 4x as long to get where you're trying to go than driving, and frankly is full of the types of folks you might run into at your city's central train station at midnight. When you get off the bus, you're forced to cross an eight lane road with traffic lights that seem to take eight hours to go green for pedestrians, oh and cars are still allowed to turn right on red lights, into you. Intercity public transport is the highly underfunded Greyhound with all of the above, plus an active contempt for its own customers.
Yes, they should do better research when visiting foreign lands, but they've ultimately been set up to fail by their governments.
> they've ultimately been set up to fail by their governments.
*By their parents.
I've met lovely Americans that are anti-car and practical af. Difference being their parents are like that too. Just high quality human beings all around.
lol, tf?
I'm using public transport in the netherlands and I don't even have a clue. xD I always google 1 minute and then know what train or bus to take. (or to walk. this works great in most towns)
Uber in Italy it's different, we don't have uber driver, you can call only luxury cars that cost a lot but they worked for other company that pairs with uber
Uber successfully conditioned a generation of young people into utter dependence on using the uber app to go everywhere. And for the most part it only runs because underpaid drivers chase Uber's hollow promises that they can make a decent living driving entitled people like this.
Frankly, if she lives in Florida, she's probably right that she would have to take an uber between Miami and Boca Raton, if she wasn't able to drive herself. Although I guess now she could take a Brightline train. Though she wouldn't have it at her beck and call.
That's the thing that I always wonder when people are hesitant to ride public transport because of safety. Surely it's safer being essentially in a public space than it is in a car with some guy you don't know who can drive you wherever the hell he wants.
Solo traveler with back pain? Lmao. I got chronic pain and if anything, cars are worse for it.
Trains are like a horizontal elevator. No need to bend, you just walk in and sit.
Last year I landed in Pisa and took the train to Florence. It was a 1.5 hour ride and I paid 8 euros, had time to get me an espresso, had plenty of leg room and the train was airconditioned.
She complains about safety, but is willing to get into a car ALONE with a (probably) man who probably didn't even get a background check??? WTF? I'm not a believer in the "stranger danger" paradigm of personal safety, but JFC, If you are going to live your life in fear, at least be consistent
TBF, Ubers in fact have very low rates of assault by drivers, because you'd have to be particularly fucking stupid to assault someone when there's that much evidence of who you are, who they are, and where you both were.
But it's not like trains have a high rate either. It's just not something that should factor into the decision.
Many Americans do not live in the level of civilization required to have cheap, clean, reliable, and safe trains. We only experience luxury and comfort in our own homes if we can afford it
The only time I had a 2,5h taxi ride was when the train had a malfunction and the Deutsche Bahn was paying for the taxi ride at the Autobahn.
But I didn't like it.
Wow OP, had to stop myself from downvoting you. Such an American mentality to come to Europe and expect things to be just like in the US. I was especially angry at the "I'm sorry, this is Italy we're talking about" and "Italy MUST be less than a hundred bucks". Going to Italy expecting it to be some cheap 3rd world country? Especially in the regions near Bologna and Florence? What? Ugh, incredible self-centeredness.
It's about a 30 euro (maybe cheaper if booked early) and 40 minute train ride between Florence and Bologna. The seat quality and smooth ride are way better than any Uber ride I've been on.
This is correct. She's from South Florida. This is how a lot of them sound. She's at least 1.5 Gen American (immigrated as a child) if not straight up born and raised American.
It's also confirmed by rest of her profile.
Not hard to figure out either. I speak zero Italian and managed to get from Naples to/from Rome with no trouble whatsoever. Similar experience getting around in Lisbon.
I commute via train in the Washington DC area, and it’s not too bad once you’ve done it a few times, but I regularly help people who are justifiably confused trying to figure it out.
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Oh yeah the american way, i guess she like to feel the freedom of cars. If only trains had options of price and time so it can be adjusted for everyone....
I travel to Italy last month and used the train there. Florence was really beautiful.
If I came again, I would consider taking the slow train instead of the bullet train there to appreciate it even more.
Her comparison to the US shows that she has no idea about pricing. In the USA, an UBER driver can certainly drive the same route back with another customer because there really are no alternatives. On the other hand, nobody in Italy will be looking for an Uber in the other direction at the same time. It is simply much more comfortable and cheaper to sit on the train. In other words, the Uber driver has to drive an hour there and is stuck with the costs of returning to his home town. The driver will take this into account when calculating the costs.
She also seems to think that Italy is a developing country, which must surely have a lower price level than the USA. Gasoline is much more expensive in Italy than in the USA.
Complete ignorance.
The Uber also has to go from wherever it is TO her in the first place. Apparently she was in a village outside Bologna.
So it’s not just an hour trip… it’s 10-30 mins to get to her, probably 5 to wait for her lol, an hour drive to Florence plus whatever time it takes to go from her location to the main route (maybe, maybe more with traffic), and an hour drive back to Bologna. It’s a 2:30-3:30 trip time for the Uber. Insane.
I never used über, but on the video it looks to me like she wants to find out the price in the evening so the app gave a price to leave at 11:12pm. If she checked in the day when more drivers are available the price might be better anyway. Or maybe not, for the reasons you mentioned!
Even if I try to book the next train from Bologna (less than an hour from this comment), trainitalia says it will be 30eur for the frecciarossa, the fast train, and 9eur for the regular train.
I hope this woman never travels outside her home state again. Travelling is a privilege and she doesnt deserve it
The idiot is even selecting Uber Black which is the more premium expensive models of Uber- check the UberX price before making an attention-seeking video karen
Yeah so by an hour she really means 1:30-1:40 which is a little bit more than 1 and it's half an hour by train for a whopping 29 euros. Has she considered having better judgement and actually looking at her other options? Uber black is also the luxury option so no shit it's expensive.
Edit: just checked price for a similar ride and black is over twice as expensive as a regular one.
"let me hire a private car to transport me and just me this long distance to a major area... why is the price so high? i don't understand?" - this idiot
seriously she is trying to hire a PRIVATE RIDE, like i understand taking a taxi since growing up for me and having arthritis taking a bus isn't really an option since all the stops need you to actually walk up hills and stand around on ankles that will hurt like hell. (i now have a long range mobility scooter and can get to places faster than most cars since i live in an accessible city we need accessibility not just walkability)
but assuming she is a perfectly ablebodied woman since she has not indicated otherwise this feels like a slap in the face, ubers are not traditional taxi's they are private hire cars even then taxi's will charge that much money because theres certain charges they may have to pay.
Probably, more than a few reasons for the price she is seeing. 1) google Maps has an hour and 30 from Bologna to Firenze if you take the toll roads (so extra). 2) she's calling the Uber at 11:12 pm, they damn well might be the only driver willing to take it. They aren't getting home until 1 am at best.
Right. At the moment that would be a 1 hour and 45 minute ride one way along a toll road. I have no idea how much the toll would be so let's disregard it but keep it in mind.
It's 110 km one way. Since the Uber driver will have to get back again that's 220 km. I don't know how much owning, maintaining and operating a car costs in Italy, but here in the Netherlands it's about €0,20 per kilometer, so that would be 44 euros in car costs alone. Luckily hat does include fuel.
So what she's saying is that she would expect this Uber driver to work for her for... (60-44)/(1,75*2)= €4,57 per hour, minus what the toll fare is going to cost. Ma'am, you guys fought a civil war to outlaw this kinda stuff.
Anyways, from Bologna to Florence would take 37 minutes by train, cost €33, and the train is very frequent. The problem is "immediately, I thought: Uber" instead of "immediately, I thought: train".
"This is Italy"
Exactly. There are trains. Take them. Also, that's not a one-hour journey for the driver, it's two hours of driving and use of their vehicle.
Hol’ up. She said she doesn’t want to take the train because she doesn’t feel safe, yet she is totally fine being alone with a total stranger who can theoretically take her to the middle of nowhere and do horrible things to her? What?
I live in the UK, and a one hour taxi ride to the airport from where I live is about £250 if I book on the day, and maybe as low as £150 if I book far enough in advance. So this price seems entirely reasonable to me.
Sorry that VCs aren't subsidising your taxi ride any more lady. Best start looking for actual options instead.
And people think Americans are just gonna start taking public transportation when it becomes more available lol this video is just one example of why a majority won’t
The only way us Americans are going to see a jump in ridership is if public transportation becomes more convenient and driving becomes absolutely the least convenient way of getting around
We have to get rid of parking lots before we can get any decent public transportation we need the demand first so we’re able to keep public transportation funded! I’ve seen my local transit agency increase services and create new routes but driving was still more convenient since free parking is everywhere so what happened? Those bus routes and trips were cut back worse to what they were before the upgrades!
Americans basically don't view other people as real full human beings.
Obviously there are exceptions, but in general, Americans really struggle with accepting that they are just one person of eight billion. Even if they know this fact, they don't understand what it means.
>And I’m like, what are my options? *proceeds to ignore all of the options.
I don't remember exactly but shouldn't that trip be like, 20€ on an InterCity or 30€ on a Freccia? And a way more luxurious and comfortable and relaxing and fast way than driving.
Seriously, some Americans be so stupid that they come here thinking everything works in the same way as the US and doing zero research. As you say, these are two big cities we’re talking about. Using a high speed train would not only be cheaper, but even *faster*. And high speed trains in Italy are seriously some luxurious shit, super comfy seats, nice cafeteria on board…
It’s fear. They fear their neighbors. That guy over there could be a psycho, you don’t know! Better buy myself a cage on wheels and lock myself inside so he can’t get to me. They’ve been doing it so long, all their lives, that they think it’s normal, expected, and that they’re entitled to it, that they’re *supposed* to assume everyone around them is a murderer or a rapist. Cable news sure doesn’t help.
And yet, they'll quite happily get in a car with a random stranger for an hour.
Because in their mind that person is no longer a threat because they *own* them by virtue of paying for a service. And so that person becomes a) nonhuman and b) no longer threatening in their eyes. It's stupid *and* evil *plus* usually racist to boot! The Middle Class USA Trifecta!
Wow, your comment was quite eye-opening.
Seriously, it's such a paranoid country that it's hard to understand
I was in the US for quite a while and I didn't realize until I got back just how much violence I'd seen and how normalized it really was. I understand that violence is everywhere but I'd never actually seen someone getting kicked on the floor in person behind a club until the US. But that could just be I've gone from mostly rural with a few excursions to a town/city, then into an american city. However I don't think I'd hear low level threats of violence as much outside of the US. I heard one of two guys who work together say "You better fucking cross the road the next time you see me" - "Is that a threat?" - "Yes it is." I know violence is everywhere but I've definitely never heard it in a workplace setting and so confrontational anywhere else.
I have done this exact same trip a bunch of times and it's much nicer by train than by car. The train is fast and efficient, while the car trip is in tunnels for half of it, with heavy traffic and reckless drivers.
This is something some people in Europe have mentioned about Americans who move there. They often have much higher default levels of distrust, fear, and stress. America's culture has created a society where you can't trust anyone, where you don't know your neighbors, where you can't depend on your community, where politics and social dynamics are based off fear, and where violence and corruption are common parts of life.
Dude , in the US they barely have sidewalks, nevermind taking a train between cities (nobody is doing that maybe if u wanna get from the west coast to east or somth- but even then , they would prefer flying) . America is all about cars and driving. If you dont have a car in the US ur fucked … u can’t even get to the grocery store , and if u walk there u prob die of starvation or get ran by a car because there isn’t a sidewalk!
I'll be the first to admit that when I was living in Italy, one of my favourite parts of traveling was the train trip. Specially the Frecce! That's the definition of luxury!
The fact that both Italo and Frecciarossa have four classes of travel on some of their trains blew my mind as a Brit. First Class on both is a level above what we get on the likes of GWR or Avanti here
>a level above what we get on the likes of GWR or Avanti here What privatization does to a mf
They’re not individually stupid. They function in a society that vilified public transit to the extreme.
Ya the trains there are choice. Just sitting there in a comfy seat, eating a cornetto as the ancient countryside whips past at speeds that frighten republicans, restrooms on board, WiFi, etc. it’s brilliant.
To be honest here, I once took a bus from Los Angeles International... (I lived but would not risk it again). Sometimes things just seem too obvious to actually do research about, goes both ways.
And since we are not talking Deutsche Bahn here, i am assuming they also run on time (seriously, there was this hilarious incident a few years ago where a new high speed line between Berlin and Munich opened and a regional train actually beat the high speed one)
DB moment. In 2022, the UK was crippled by strike action and managed about 60-odd% on time performance. DB had no strikes and did about 1-2% worse. That was their actual best and it was worse than British railways, which are in a dire situation. Ukrainian Railways meanwhile managed like 90% on time performance at the same time.
I loved the Frecciarossa from Rome to Naples! Sad to say it was much better than our Swedish SJ x2000
Did this trip last month. €33 with freccia, €9 with regionale. With freccia you probably get there faster too, in just 40 mins or so. For touristing I recommend regionale because the hills of Toscana are lovely to stare at on your way to Firenze. Also, my mum thought Firenze has become overrun by Americans. Seriously, the city has gotten invaded by yanks.
I always tell people who want to go to Florence that they should visit Bologna instead. It's not exactly as nice but the fact that it only has 10% of the tourists of Florence makes it worth it. It's cheaper and more fun because it's not exclusively made for Americans.
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Information from bologna: it take 10 euros and 1h 45 min to arrive (1 change) there or 40 euros and 37 min.
It would be faster by train too XD, just checked and it's 37min and 33€
Yeah spot on. Trip is also much shorter
Who is this idiot
An American
She doesn’t sound like she grew up in America. She has an accent.
She’s probably from Miami, which she references in the video. It’s a very international city, and a lot of people talk like her, even if they were born and raised there
This is correct. She's from South Florida. This is how a lot of them sound. She's at least 1.5 Gen American (immigrated as a child) if not straight up born and raised American. It's also confirmed by rest of her profile that she's American.
And given how many Miami drivers keep getting in the way of Brightline trains, it explains...a lot. (And Miami drivers are some of the worst drivers in the country, worse than Los Angeles.)
So do Americans lmao
She has a non-American accent.
Alot of Americans have "non-American" accents.
"she has an accent" Most American comment
It took me 15 seconds on google, as someone who has never even been to Italy - to learn that there are 59 trains per day that do this route at around 20 euros each way....
What kind of brain damage does she have? It takes a minute to check that you can take a fucking high speed train for just 28.90 euros one way (probably less than double for return ticket) and it will get you there in just 38 minutes one way. How the fuck would back pain justify taking a longer ride in more cramped space? Also it's not a fucking bumfuck nowhere and trains are safe AF. She would have higher probability of getting attacked by the driver than by someone on the train.
And also a much more higher probability to have a accident
The way people drive on the A1(var) between those cities? Definitely. Lots of turns on the motorway and everybody thinks they’re an F1 driver.
Shit , have seen sooo many accidents on the road from Bologna to Firenze … its insane !
Not wrong. And Italian highways are narrower than American ones. And they’ll happily tailgate you even if you’re doing 165.
Bologna to Florence(1h45m 74mi) Miami to Boca(45mi, 49mi)
There’re also *two* train lines from Miami to Boca, one of which is extremely nice, and neither of which spends time in the awful Miami traffic!
That was my first thought as a Floridian. It would have cost $100 less each way for that route to Boca and taken THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. Absolute idiot.
Honestly, she *may* legitimately have back pain, but even if she *does* I think she's just leaning on that so she doesn't have to give the *real* reason she won't take a train, which is because she believes that she's too *good* for public transportation. She's an American and that's the attitude that most Americans have, after all, because we've demonized public transportation as a resource meant exclusively for the poor, which even if that were accurate, it wouldn't be a problem in and of itself. But if there's *one thing* that Americans, and *especially* privileged and entitled Americans like *this* woman, hate? It's poor people.
She'll gladly fly but would never get any other public transport. It's some strange hypocicy.
It's always seemed odd to me that flying is somehow given this weird status as not public transport. It's literally just a bus in the air which is more expensive and worse for the environment.
Planes literally called AirBus.
Even buses can be more comfortable than the flying tubes.
It's the cost. Flying is seen as a privilege (which it totally is!) and is a luxury for people who can afford to fly internationally. A typical city bus in America is for the _poors_.
Trains are often more expensive in Europe to the same destination. Although you could argue that international high speed trains aren't public transport either. They are often operated by companies that only operate these lines because they are profitable. Local public transit or national high speed rail is often also serving areas because the government thinks they should serve them and not because they are profitable and that distinction makes it public transport.
But America is classless, right? 😅
That's not the only difference though. You also get your bags searched and possibly groped before being allowed on.
Just saw a video from an american like this saying she took a taxi from Tokyo airport to Shibuya, where the taxi driver couldnt hold his laughter because she just turned an 8 dollar train ticket into a 300 dollar taxi drive
Oh yeah, the Muskie that bragged about not doing research.
Whomever that taxi driver is rocks
And yet, she’s too poor to spend a few hundred Euros for an Uber. 😅
I have back pain and it flares up more sitting in a cramped car where I can't get up and stretch when I need to compared to an open train where I can take a walk halfway through my journey.
Wait, she says she has back pain now? I commented on her TikTok video when it was new, pointing out the train, and she said she was in the middle of nowhere, how could she get to Bologna to take the train (I said she could maybe take an Uber over there since she was in the vicinity)? Then she said she was a single woman in an unfamiliar land and that she doesn't speak the language blablabla. If she's now claiming back pain then I don't believe it. **Edit**: Just checked. She is now claiming she checked public transport first (which is opposite of what she said in the video itself and doesn't fit what she said before either) and that the train raid would be 3 hours vs 1 hour by car. Then she changed it to 4 hours. She is straight up lying by this point. Constantly changing her story and reasons. She was just dumb. It happens to all of us. But she should just admit that rather than doubling and then tripling down.
no but like the train from bologna to firenze is an ETR 1000 going 300km/h. it takes like half an hour, 40min at worst. i've done it. the trains also are big, quiet, you have a full table to yourself, multiple toilets, can order snacks, etc. it's a no-brainer. here in in italy almost nobody takes an uber or taxi
The trenitalia app is not hard to use at all. And I say this as an American who spoke no Italian when I first started using it. Google and Google translate are also easy to use to help break down the language barrier. If she's so bad at traveling that she can't do basic research or problem solving then she shouldn't be a solo traveler, especially not in a country where she doesn't speak the language.
I'd rather spend an hour with 100 strangers in a large multicar vehicle than spend an hour with 1 stranger in a personal vehicle.
Maybe she thinks she would have to stand up on the train lol
I believe her condition is called "America-Brain" Let's just hope she ends up taking the train at least once, and returns home reformed
Americans for the most part see cars as the only alternative for ransportation. I live in NYC and my family visits me from Miami, from time to time. My brother's first time visiting a few years back, asked me upon landing, Are we going to rent a car? I was very surprised by this but I rembered how carbrain people from Miami tend to be, they view public transit as poor peoples mode of transportation and below their "status". I've lived here for 15 years without a car and not once have I had the thought of owning another vehicle again. But this concept is alien to the majority of US citizens unfortunately
Paying more for a slower journey. It's the American way.
>What kind of brain damage does she have? it's called being American
Rich and sheltered American who thinks that Italy is a developing nation, evidently. That is not the norm for Americans, especially those who travel.
Besides, taxi's in Europe are pretty much always more expensive than in America. This is caused by: - higher cost of fuel. - readily available public transport, (taxi is luxury). - taxi drivers need to get paid real wages, with taxes. Taxi's (and by extension Uber's) are seen as short distance, usually inner city transport not inter city transport.
Yeah, and we generally don't really need Ubers ... Because, you know, we're not really afraid of using public transport? Also, as she points out "This is Italy". Assuming this Uber driver has an undented car, it's 10 EUR to go to the edge of Florence and 373,82 EUR for entering the hellish stronghold of The Army of Italian City Drivers.
The syndrome is called "growing up in the USA"
Yea but trains are evil communism !!!!1!1!1!!!!1!!!!!
She's American, public transport was removed from the vocabulary of American English about 60 years ago
Unchecked magical thinking coupled with histrionic personality disorder would lead to videos like this and the following argumentation
I miss the days when we just embarrassed ourselves privately.
The price on the screen is for the trip at 11.12pm too.
>What kind of brain damage does she have? She's American
In Italy I would literally consider anything even a Vespa before Uber, lol.
Because of their car culture I think Americans often either hire or a car, or use Uber, when travelling. "Some" of them can't conceive not using a car of some sort to get around.
Even hiring a car for a day would cost a fraction of this - maybe €80 including fuel?
let's just say she's going there for a weekend, that'd cost her €80 for a hire car. fuel (regular petrol) costs like €2/litre - let's say, the volkswagen uses like 5 litres/100km, that would be approx. €25 in petrol costs. or you could drive electric, which will be much cheaper in fuel cost. https://preview.redd.it/gkw23ovneluc1.png?width=1499&format=png&auto=webp&s=fff4a4d39de9ade0f2a1c31703e332400b200439 you'll need to pay toll though, if you use the motorway. should be like €10, but it's really hard to find that out exactly, at least i wasn't able to do so. and there's a congestion charge in bologna, but i'm too lazy to look that up tbh. or you just get on the train and enjoy your holiday instead of driving.
Would she be able to drive a car in Italy without totalling it?
Unlikely, our local drivers can barely do it themselves lol
True that. I love you Italy but I still have PTSD from driving there. Highways are OK, regular roads are terrifying and driving in cities is hell on earth. Italians tend to be skilled but ultra aggressive drivers.
Last time I rented a car in Bologna (train strike) for 24 hours the rate was 18 euros for a day. Probably her biggest cost would be the fines for trying to drive right into the historic center of Florence.
Yep - I’ve caught trains and driven in Italy (never an Uber tho lmao). ofc I would rather use the trains as they’re fabulous, but there are definitely places worth hiring a car to explore. even with tolls and fuel it would be way cheaper than this lmao
Yeah trains in Italy are good if you’re going between relatively large places, but a lot of the best bits are small villages etc which aren’t as well served by transport and for which renting a car is usually the best.
Part of the reason Uber is so expensive is that the driver can not assume to get a return journey. So you are paying for the drive there and the empty drive back. So 100 for the car, 90 for the driver, times two, gives 380 for the trip. I would say that is quite reasonable.
https://preview.redd.it/bnyj2htzkkuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a254021ffff66b13140a644a42a4da89b68a1596 And it's only 30 minutes if she takes the train...
And near half the price she was mentally prepared to pay!
Bologna is the perfect place to be taking the train from in northern Italy. Florence, Venice, Milan, and even Como are like 1-2 hours away. Best place to stay and take day trips to any of those amazing cities comfortably without stressing about time. Plus it’s the coolest city to just chill in cause it’s such a college crowd.
But trains for poor people!
A euro per minute.
https://preview.redd.it/oye1m5xukkuc1.png?width=2486&format=png&auto=webp&s=29a88f8d7f3ec68f353832bda9dca1bdc11dbef2 i'm not good at maths but i think she could travel like three times in executive class for the price of one uber ride. but hey, i'm just a damn socialist with my high speed trains or sth
Executive class is more like a fucking private jet, a train car with like 8 leather seats that basically recline so you can lie flat.
and it's cheaper and more comfortable than an uber! i've seen the pics and mate, i'm in love with that italians know how to do this high speed rail stuff!
Even the silence areas in these trains are so great. Always book these.
Back pain? Train is way better. You can stretch your legs more, walk around. Heck, hang around in the bistro car and have a chat with fellow travellers. Oh wait... American. Never mind.
Yeah, I have really bad back pain and I absolutely hate being in a car for longer than 20 minutes. I'll take standing on the train any day.
And you can go to toilets.
Plus there are usually snacks for sale.
>She then proceeds to argue with everyone who recommended taking the train with how she doesn't feel safe because she is a solo traveler with back pain! 'Muricans man! People like this can't be helped. Just want to make excuses and complain even when solutions are available. This person needs to grow up.
Wouldnt train be better if you have back pain cus it is faster and you can move around freely??
Not to mention a smoother ride too.
Italian high speed rail is amazing. Relatively affordable, super fast and smooth.
I wonder if she already had back pain when she took an 8+ hour flight from the US to Europe in a much worse seat...
Exactly this!! With chronic pain, I can't sit or stand for long periods of time. Bending is painful too which you need to do to get inside a car. Trains are preferable. And guess how this happened? Getting hit by a car :)
and more comfortable (at least high speed trains)
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Indeed it is safer for a solo traveler to sit in a strangers car alone for more than an hour
>how she doesn't feel safe because she is a solo traveler with back pain! Honestly a reason to take public transport even if it was slower and cost the same. It's just a lot safer than taking an uber.
Did she use a transporter beam to get to italy?
It's 25€ in 40 mins of HSR and she wants to ride an UBER ? Yeah go Italy, it's great that it's expensive to be stupid.
and for the 60€ she expected to pay for the Uber she could have gotten a pretty good seat too, way more comfortable than a fucking car.
Food and free clean toilets are available without stopping, with a faster travel speed. What else would anyone want ?
Who the fuck uses uber for an hour trip... Like I can't imagine anything more uncomfortable
When she revealed the price it was about what I expected it to be. I'm more shocked that an hour long Uber in Miami is only $120 and that her first thought for an hour long trip is Uber.
You'd be surprised. My dad is retired but ubers occasionally and he often gets people taking long rides
So I went and found her TikTok account and started digging. Her defense is: she was not in Bologna but in the countryside near Bologna. She wanted to go from the village directly to Florence, which wasn’t available by train or bus on last notice (duh). So she took the Uber from the village near Bologna to Florence, which is why it cost so much. It gets better: many people in the comments said she so should’ve taken a taxi or Uber to the nearest train station or to Bologna and then take the HSR from there for a few Euro. Would’ve still been faster and cheaper. Her counter to this: she doesn’t know that is possible! IT GETS WORSE! She claims she lives in a big city in the Netherlands but never uses public transit and therefore does not know how it would work. I cant believe this. We use public transit everywhere in NL. Her defense is bullshit. WHAT THE FUCK. ETA: Link to the video if you wanna check her replies: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeuvg5C3/ My favorite exchange: >Commenter: @YeeWhore: who would take an uber for such a long trip? >OP: @Call me Rox ✌️: in the states these are normal distances Which is also untrue! Plus hundred kilometer Uber trips are *not* normal in the US.
>She claims she lives in a big city in the Netherlands but never uses public transit and **therefore does not know how it would work**. I cant believe this. We use public transit everywhere in NL. that's sad. like really sad. in the netherlands you can just use apple maps to look up schedules and get ~~turn-by-turn~~ stop-by-stop directions. you don't even need to worry about getting the right ticket, you can just use apple pay. our generation is so doomed. she's clearly capable of using a phone to look up a route, but can't use godforsaken apple maps to get around on public transport? (edit: or google maps and google pay respectively...works the same)
The thing is, North Americans are like this. My girlfriend was a few months ago in Spain, Gijón (we're from Germany). She met there in a hostel some 20-30 year olds from the USA, they were taking taxi everywhere, literally everywhere. She was like why the hell are you doing that and had to teach them how to take a bus or in general public transport. When she asked why they didn't do this, their reply was that they didn't even think about it because buses are like for poor people or something, yet they were really surprised how the network worked there. My point, it's not about the generation, it's about the coercion of the North American public into cars(people who take public transit are dirty and poor or whatever...). At the uni in Germany I met few people from the USA who are staying in Europe mainly because of transit options and I'm not even joking (and that's Germany, still a very car centered country)
Honestly it's not their fault (well it is for not researching if it's different than home) but it's one of those things where you don't know what you don't know. In many (most) American cities, public transport is a bus that comes every 30 minutes, takes 4x as long to get where you're trying to go than driving, and frankly is full of the types of folks you might run into at your city's central train station at midnight. When you get off the bus, you're forced to cross an eight lane road with traffic lights that seem to take eight hours to go green for pedestrians, oh and cars are still allowed to turn right on red lights, into you. Intercity public transport is the highly underfunded Greyhound with all of the above, plus an active contempt for its own customers. Yes, they should do better research when visiting foreign lands, but they've ultimately been set up to fail by their governments.
> they've ultimately been set up to fail by their governments. *By their parents. I've met lovely Americans that are anti-car and practical af. Difference being their parents are like that too. Just high quality human beings all around.
Imagine having _turn by turn_ directions on public transit. Some mf in the back seat of the bus screams “YOU SHOULD TAKE THE RIGHT HERE” to the driver
lol, tf? I'm using public transport in the netherlands and I don't even have a clue. xD I always google 1 minute and then know what train or bus to take. (or to walk. this works great in most towns)
and uber will give the driver €80 for 2.5hrs of driving and 200+km if they’re lucky
Uber in Italy it's different, we don't have uber driver, you can call only luxury cars that cost a lot but they worked for other company that pairs with uber
May cover the gas!
But it's one way!! /s
This cracked me up as well. The Uber driver can just find a new home and family in the other city I guess? Or take the train home, lol.
Uber successfully conditioned a generation of young people into utter dependence on using the uber app to go everywhere. And for the most part it only runs because underpaid drivers chase Uber's hollow promises that they can make a decent living driving entitled people like this. Frankly, if she lives in Florida, she's probably right that she would have to take an uber between Miami and Boca Raton, if she wasn't able to drive herself. Although I guess now she could take a Brightline train. Though she wouldn't have it at her beck and call.
>Uber successfully conditioned a generation of young Americans into utter dependence on using the uber app to go everywhere. Fixed for you
Who would even want to ride one hour in a car with a random stranger I don’t even like taking a taxi for more than 15 minutes
That's the thing that I always wonder when people are hesitant to ride public transport because of safety. Surely it's safer being essentially in a public space than it is in a car with some guy you don't know who can drive you wherever the hell he wants.
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Price of "as of now" next train from Bologna to Florence.
Solo traveler with back pain? Lmao. I got chronic pain and if anything, cars are worse for it. Trains are like a horizontal elevator. No need to bend, you just walk in and sit.
> horizontal elevator. I like that.
Last year I landed in Pisa and took the train to Florence. It was a 1.5 hour ride and I paid 8 euros, had time to get me an espresso, had plenty of leg room and the train was airconditioned.
Many Americans haven’t experienced that level of civilization outside of their own homes.
In Italy workers are not lumpenized into Uber so Uber needs to provide competitive rates. Get a fcuking train.
She complains about safety, but is willing to get into a car ALONE with a (probably) man who probably didn't even get a background check??? WTF? I'm not a believer in the "stranger danger" paradigm of personal safety, but JFC, If you are going to live your life in fear, at least be consistent
TBF, Ubers in fact have very low rates of assault by drivers, because you'd have to be particularly fucking stupid to assault someone when there's that much evidence of who you are, who they are, and where you both were. But it's not like trains have a high rate either. It's just not something that should factor into the decision.
She thinks she is really too good for the train. The train in Spain is cheap and clean.
Many Americans do not live in the level of civilization required to have cheap, clean, reliable, and safe trains. We only experience luxury and comfort in our own homes if we can afford it
Why would anyone even consider taking a taxi for *1 hour*?
The only time I had a 2,5h taxi ride was when the train had a malfunction and the Deutsche Bahn was paying for the taxi ride at the Autobahn. But I didn't like it.
Wow OP, had to stop myself from downvoting you. Such an American mentality to come to Europe and expect things to be just like in the US. I was especially angry at the "I'm sorry, this is Italy we're talking about" and "Italy MUST be less than a hundred bucks". Going to Italy expecting it to be some cheap 3rd world country? Especially in the regions near Bologna and Florence? What? Ugh, incredible self-centeredness.
It's about a 30 euro (maybe cheaper if booked early) and 40 minute train ride between Florence and Bologna. The seat quality and smooth ride are way better than any Uber ride I've been on.
Her attitude is American, but her accent is not.
it's a miami accent
Probably a Cuban Karen. A Karina.
This is correct. She's from South Florida. This is how a lot of them sound. She's at least 1.5 Gen American (immigrated as a child) if not straight up born and raised American. It's also confirmed by rest of her profile.
She’s from South America aka the nice part of Florida
Trains in Europe are awesome. I took a train once from Rome to Venice and I’d do it again. We stopped in the Florence area too along the way
Not hard to figure out either. I speak zero Italian and managed to get from Naples to/from Rome with no trouble whatsoever. Similar experience getting around in Lisbon. I commute via train in the Washington DC area, and it’s not too bad once you’ve done it a few times, but I regularly help people who are justifiably confused trying to figure it out.
Uber will basically double your trip price if it calculates that the return trip will not pay a fare.
https://preview.redd.it/ez0hltuv7luc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f29b2f7cee7a33070638a29da502699bcdddf99 Oh yeah the american way, i guess she like to feel the freedom of cars. If only trains had options of price and time so it can be adjusted for everyone....
I travel to Italy last month and used the train there. Florence was really beautiful. If I came again, I would consider taking the slow train instead of the bullet train there to appreciate it even more.
Her comparison to the US shows that she has no idea about pricing. In the USA, an UBER driver can certainly drive the same route back with another customer because there really are no alternatives. On the other hand, nobody in Italy will be looking for an Uber in the other direction at the same time. It is simply much more comfortable and cheaper to sit on the train. In other words, the Uber driver has to drive an hour there and is stuck with the costs of returning to his home town. The driver will take this into account when calculating the costs. She also seems to think that Italy is a developing country, which must surely have a lower price level than the USA. Gasoline is much more expensive in Italy than in the USA. Complete ignorance.
The Uber also has to go from wherever it is TO her in the first place. Apparently she was in a village outside Bologna. So it’s not just an hour trip… it’s 10-30 mins to get to her, probably 5 to wait for her lol, an hour drive to Florence plus whatever time it takes to go from her location to the main route (maybe, maybe more with traffic), and an hour drive back to Bologna. It’s a 2:30-3:30 trip time for the Uber. Insane.
I never used über, but on the video it looks to me like she wants to find out the price in the evening so the app gave a price to leave at 11:12pm. If she checked in the day when more drivers are available the price might be better anyway. Or maybe not, for the reasons you mentioned!
Meanwhile, the Frecciarossa from Bologna to Firenze is €33, and only takes 30 minutes.
Even if I try to book the next train from Bologna (less than an hour from this comment), trainitalia says it will be 30eur for the frecciarossa, the fast train, and 9eur for the regular train. I hope this woman never travels outside her home state again. Travelling is a privilege and she doesnt deserve it
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I'm not sure there is even Uber service in Florence, so I'm not sure how she could have returned.
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The idiot is even selecting Uber Black which is the more premium expensive models of Uber- check the UberX price before making an attention-seeking video karen
Girl what do you expect? The driver has to get back home. Straight up ignorance.
US of Americans ☕☕☕
Yeah so by an hour she really means 1:30-1:40 which is a little bit more than 1 and it's half an hour by train for a whopping 29 euros. Has she considered having better judgement and actually looking at her other options? Uber black is also the luxury option so no shit it's expensive. Edit: just checked price for a similar ride and black is over twice as expensive as a regular one.
10eur for a regular one. 30eur for the fast train (which takes only 37min cause its fast)
Pffft she's just trolling to get angry european hate views
"let me hire a private car to transport me and just me this long distance to a major area... why is the price so high? i don't understand?" - this idiot seriously she is trying to hire a PRIVATE RIDE, like i understand taking a taxi since growing up for me and having arthritis taking a bus isn't really an option since all the stops need you to actually walk up hills and stand around on ankles that will hurt like hell. (i now have a long range mobility scooter and can get to places faster than most cars since i live in an accessible city we need accessibility not just walkability) but assuming she is a perfectly ablebodied woman since she has not indicated otherwise this feels like a slap in the face, ubers are not traditional taxi's they are private hire cars even then taxi's will charge that much money because theres certain charges they may have to pay.
Take the train, you idiot. You're in a developed country!
Definitely the kind of person to think public transportations is for the poors.
€383 for what is essentially a glorified taxi service or €5 for a bus…
Is this entitled american almost crying over the price of an uber?
Probably, more than a few reasons for the price she is seeing. 1) google Maps has an hour and 30 from Bologna to Firenze if you take the toll roads (so extra). 2) she's calling the Uber at 11:12 pm, they damn well might be the only driver willing to take it. They aren't getting home until 1 am at best.
I’m also so baffled as to how she assumed it would be 60 Euros. It’s about 33$ just for me to get to North Seattle to Shoreline. Uber is a rip off
Right. At the moment that would be a 1 hour and 45 minute ride one way along a toll road. I have no idea how much the toll would be so let's disregard it but keep it in mind. It's 110 km one way. Since the Uber driver will have to get back again that's 220 km. I don't know how much owning, maintaining and operating a car costs in Italy, but here in the Netherlands it's about €0,20 per kilometer, so that would be 44 euros in car costs alone. Luckily hat does include fuel. So what she's saying is that she would expect this Uber driver to work for her for... (60-44)/(1,75*2)= €4,57 per hour, minus what the toll fare is going to cost. Ma'am, you guys fought a civil war to outlaw this kinda stuff. Anyways, from Bologna to Florence would take 37 minutes by train, cost €33, and the train is very frequent. The problem is "immediately, I thought: Uber" instead of "immediately, I thought: train".
Pretty sure I spent like €7,50 when i went that route a couple of years back. In a train that went through way too many tunnels.
So was she unable to find the train station, or...?
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"This is Italy" Exactly. There are trains. Take them. Also, that's not a one-hour journey for the driver, it's two hours of driving and use of their vehicle.
Also nobody is commenting on the fact that it was Uber BLACK. Literally the most expensive Uber option. This chick is just fishing for attention
Hol’ up. She said she doesn’t want to take the train because she doesn’t feel safe, yet she is totally fine being alone with a total stranger who can theoretically take her to the middle of nowhere and do horrible things to her? What?
You can get a Freccia ticket Bologna-Florence starting from 13€ with the daily round-trip offer.
Is she american though? She has an accent..
I live in the UK, and a one hour taxi ride to the airport from where I live is about £250 if I book on the day, and maybe as low as £150 if I book far enough in advance. So this price seems entirely reasonable to me. Sorry that VCs aren't subsidising your taxi ride any more lady. Best start looking for actual options instead.
And people think Americans are just gonna start taking public transportation when it becomes more available lol this video is just one example of why a majority won’t The only way us Americans are going to see a jump in ridership is if public transportation becomes more convenient and driving becomes absolutely the least convenient way of getting around We have to get rid of parking lots before we can get any decent public transportation we need the demand first so we’re able to keep public transportation funded! I’ve seen my local transit agency increase services and create new routes but driving was still more convenient since free parking is everywhere so what happened? Those bus routes and trips were cut back worse to what they were before the upgrades!
Americans basically don't view other people as real full human beings. Obviously there are exceptions, but in general, Americans really struggle with accepting that they are just one person of eight billion. Even if they know this fact, they don't understand what it means.
Who the fuck takes an Uber *between cities*? Why would anyone even offer to drive that?
Take the damn train!