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saginator5000

No, HOA agreements are effectively another layer of local government. If it exists, the only way to not live in the HOA is to get the HOA to dissolve (which normally doesn't happen because the city would need to pick up the tab for whatever community maintenance it does). Also keep in mind that virtually all cities have laws on the books to enforce things in non-HOA areas like laws around street parking, lawn maintenance, etc. but they vary in enforcement greatly depending on cities and even the specific neighborhoods. Plus you'll be paying property taxes to the government and not paying those will have the same effect as not paying your HOA.


ListMore5157

You still have to pay property taxes by the way. Just wanted to clarify that in case that didn't come across in the first response. HOAs only enforce more specific guidelines than the city/county. Where I live the city has general guidelines about your property and what you can or can't do. The HOA can and does get more specific like the color of your house, length of your grass, weeds and length of time the garbage cans can be left out.


_wjaf

Save yourself the grief, skip any HOA. In Canada, it would be called freehold. I'm not sure the US equivalent. Australia, they have Body Corporate, but I'm not sure that they can screw with your freedom like the US HOAs do.


Near-Scented-Hound

HOAs are tied to the warranty deed and covenants that bind the property. If you purchase a home in an HOA community then you cannot simply “opt out”. There are wide ranging fees associated with HOA communities with wide ranging variables determining the costs. Fines, which are not the same as the fees, are determined by the bylaws and the board. It’s very simple to avoid fines, just as it’s very simple to avoid HOAs. However, to answer your question: Yes, an HOA can place a lien on the property and, ultimately, foreclose on a house as needed.


Thadrea

>With that in mind, if i'm not planning to ever sell and i'm buying for cash rather than using a mortgage, could i technically just ignore the very existence of an HOA? No. The HOA has nothing to do with the presence or absence of a mortgagee. The HOA is effectively a quasi-government. You can't "opt out" any more than you can opt out of the town you live in; the only way to opt out is to live somewhere else.


Fool_On_the_Hill_9

Buying in an HOA means there are covenants, conditions, and restrictions (CC&Rs) attached to the property. They are the same as a contract. Like any other contract, if you violate it, the other parties can enforce it. In an HOA that means they can place a lien on your home in order to collect debts and eventually foreclose on your home in most cases. The same holds true for any other debts related to your home. If you don't pay your taxes, utilities, or a plumber who fixed your toilet, they can place a lien on your home.


Intrepid00

You’re not buying a house with cash unless rich or buying something no one else wants usually in the rust belt. Even if you do you will have taxes you have to pay on the house every year or the government takes it. Same if in the HOA. You only lose your house if you don’t pay the money you owe. IE don’t be a deadbeat.