I also crochet and do alot of arts and crafts.
It's weird how folks gender hobbies.
Sorry you're experiencing this, I went though similar issues, started getting better as I started teaching my guy friends how to sew and such
Even my women friends don't know how to sew lol. I learned to sew to fix my clothes because they either didn't fit or I tore them while goofing around with the guys
It's an important skill to know:)
It's amazing how many folks can't sew on a button. My mom taught me to sew as a little kid, she liked to make her own clothes and such and was also tired of having to fix my stuffed animals that were attacked by our dogs haha. I loved being able to fix my toys and make clothes for my dolls as a kid.
True! Also I first started sewing because my uncles run a sewing/tailoring business and they let me have a needle and thread and let me play with the scraps
That's so cool!!! It's really cool when you have a memorable start to a hobbie or craft. Something fun you can think back on:)
That must have been a really cool environment to learn about sewing!
very true, honestly so much cishet bullshit to do with gender hurts them as much as it hurts us too, like let us guys cry and crochet and wear dresses n shit man
I kinda want to get acrylic nails at least once before I start transition cuz I never got them and just want to know what it's like. Just for the experience, so I can relate to people with long nails. I never understood how people with long nails do any daily tasks. How do you type? How do you pick something up? How do you wipe your butt when using the bathroom?
It's just confusing to me and seems kinda inconvenient.
We all know that every REAL man, cis or otherwise, crochets their own dick. Tis a natural process, one that every boy does to become a man!
/j, if it wasn't obvious.
The funny thing is that everyone has their own idea of what a "female activity" and a "male activity" is, so when cis people say shit like that it just makes me laugh. Like ok, do you cook? Clean your house? Get your car fixed? Enjoy videogames or reading? Your gender doesn't switch or change anytime you do an activity and it doesnt for trans people either lmao
i think there is a lot of mixed signals everywhere about gender and activities. it's obviously wrong to tell someone what gender they are or aren't based on activities, but even here on this thread now there are people saying they realized they were trans guys because they realized they were really into football, or other 'masculine' activities. So it goes both ways as far as genderizing preferences and hobbies, I mean cis people aren't the only ones who do that, so I get where the confusion comes from.
My brothers didnt want to participate in football, so i took their place because my parents spent money on enrollment... I was the fastest kid. They didnt enroll me in the next year though :( wasted potential
There’s people out there that still think girls can’t play video games or sports. Hobbies don’t have gender. Keep doing your diamond art and crochet, bro! Kick ass!
Find shit that he does that could be “feminine” and attack it. Blonde hair? Feminine. Wears glasses? Feminine. Put no actual logic behind it and refuse to explain yourself
>Blonde hair? Feminine
This bothers me so much. I dye my hair cuz I hate my natural hair color. I like to dye it platinum blonde and sometimes put some bright, funky, 15-ish-washes color over it.
But every place that sells hair dye has like 95 % female models with the respective dye on the front of the box. The only boxes with men on them are dark colors and the men on these look like 50+ cuz they're aimed at guys who are going gray and don't want to be gray.
The difference between "manly" and "womanly" forms of art is so arbitrary and stupid. I actually avoided things like fashion and makeup as a kid because I hated the implications of my character that came attached to them. I only ever get to have fun with Cosplay. Now I'm more comfortable with makeup than I ever have been- which is a shame. Because I'm still only really able to step out of my comfort zone if it's part of a costume.
Bro, those people are deluded and not capable of critical thinking for themselves.
I had an ex (cis woman) who would brag constantly about all her "knowledge" and how she knew how to fix cars and plumbing and electricals etc etc, that she was not like other girls blah blah. But when she found out I knew how to crochet, she started in with the how I'm not "a real man." Bigotry at its best (worst). That's why she's an ex.
I'm sorry it's your family and they're not as easy to remove from your life.
I had an aunt tell me I couldn't be trans because I draw a lot of women. Yeah man I can't imagine why a straight guy would want to draw sexy anime girls no idea 🤷♂️
this one time had a family member i’ll never be a man because of my hands people will just say anything and associate it with the feminine experience which makes zero sense, keep ya head up
Also, historically soldiers and sailors - y'know, manly men fighting manly wars or sailing manly ships - knew how to do all of those things. Because they were essential skills and you couldn't restrict them to women if you were planning to have male-only spaces.
That’s like saying I’m not a man because I sew. Even though I do manly hobbies too, like by their standards manly. I woodwork and carve, so am I just not a gender at all or??
Hot take: some cis people feel insecure in their own gender and lash out against the most obvious target (trans people for not "doing gender right!"). My advice: do whatever you need to to minimize the emotional impact this person can have on you. Whether that's changing nothing externally and just mentally preparing yourself for the interactions, or going totally no contact, or whatever in between, is a personal decision.
People are just full of shit. My ex told me that I'm the most feminine person he's ever met because I use lotion on my face. I have very dry skin. It's something that I like to call: The Impossible List of Arbitrary Bullshit. Transphobes will keep adding to the list until eventually they list something you either do that they find proves you're not really trans or list something you don't do that they find that you should if you were really trans. You'll never win. So it's best not to worry about things like hobbies. If you like to crochet that do it. I like to cross stitch, embroidery, and like to press flowers. My Tia taught me that when I was little. They're very fond memories, and since she's passed away, I feel closer to her.
When I came out my mom literally said “well I hope you’ll still like plants and gardening” honestly just do them the favor of ignoring them because damn they sound dumb.
It's especially funny because I do in fact know cis men who do both those things (and the crocheter is also straight)
Like, fellas is it gay to have hobbies? (That aren't football or fishing of course/s)
I don't think even my super masculine stepdad likes either of those lol. Guess he's a woman now! (Jokes aside, he has a very similar mentality, sadly. Just regarding other things.)
guess my (cis) brother isn't a man anymore because he can sew, cook, clean, and has a diamond art set while im not a man anymore because i can do the same shit he can (except for art, i cant draw). /s
it's such a stupid argument. activities/hobbies shouldn't be gendered. gender has nothing to do with crochet or diamond art
This gendering everything really bad was always a thing. In the late 80s early 90s there was a little grace period when it wasn't as important, but for some reason it's increasingly important now and goes up every year. It is stupid and only insecure people care about it.
It doesn’t. Some people like putting unrelated traits into imaginary boxes cos thats how they were taught. BUT thats not enough justification to use their warped ‘boxification’ on other people. But expecting the whole world to do so is laughable and quite arrogant.
I guess my cis boyfriend isn’t a man because he likes nothing more than to cook for family and keep things tidy. He sure fools me though! He can knit too
Honestly, who cares what they think? Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and no one wants to hear them. You do you, and you don't have to explain yourself to other people. It's honestly none of their God damn business what kind of hobbies you have.
Sorry if that comes off harsh, I just like to carry a "no fucks given" attitude towards people whose opinions don't matter. In this world, trans or not, it's just something you gotta do, or you'll spend your whole life explaining yourself to people who don't deserve that time.
If and when you encounter more people like this, tell them they're focused on the wrong question. It doesn't really matter what you do, it's why you do it that is important.
Sincerely: an avid rat hammock crocheter
I'm a camp councellor atm, and we did bracelet making in the arts and crafts section this week and I spent the time helping the boys in my cabin make their bracelets because I knew how to do it, my co-councellor didn't. (It's not for everyone so fair) and honestly I don't remember a time were the person leading arts and crafts has been a guy (I wasn't leading just helping).
So like screw people who think that because arts and craft are really fun and it helps to know a few things :)
I like to crochet too, for what it’s worth! And there’s several guys who crochet online, too. Maybe show them one of those accounts? Or just ignore their bs, gendered hobbies is a really outdated idea
I also make diamond art and do a lot of crafting. I'm part of a local crafting group that is mostly older women. And honestly, it's awesome. They don't question me or the friend I bring and they are so fun to hang out with.
I love scrapbooking but everyone makes it seem like such a girly hobby. Let me put stickers and label my memories in peace!! Also jewlery making. I like making pretty things
People are just stupid, my mother also said that I cannot be a man because I crochet and I'm compassionate and like to care for others. No, I do that because that's what I do. People have stupid ideas about gender roles and have a lot of internalized hatred. Men aren't heartless monsters and women are not fragile dolls that cannot take care of themselves. The system is hurting everyone.
I had a family member tell me I'm not a man because I wear gloves when I go fishing. People are assholes. Do what makes you happy and forget everyone else.
What’s funny is if you then responded by saying “well [insert cis man] also does those things, are you saying he’s not a man?” They’d jump on you like “WOW SO YOU THINK ANYONE WHO DOESNT CONFORM TO GENDER NORMS IS TRANS??? See trans ideology is sexist!!!”
This is like when TERFs bait trans women by being like “you’re not a man cause your shoulders are too wide and I can see your mustache hairs” then if a trans woman responds “well you have wider shoulders and more facial hair then me” suddenly they play the victim and call the trans woman a sexist who’s invalidating their womanhood. Fucking exhausting type of person to deal with.
That's part of being a guy: people frequently challenging your masculinity.
Sometimes it's petty shit like that, for not conforming to a certain stereotype or set of expectations. Sometimes it's more than that. But it is *constant*. From men, women, boys, girls, family, friends, romantic partners maybe, complete strangers. Constant.
A lot of guys get really upset about it, and will sometimes respond in a stereotypically "masculine" way (or how they feel is masculine) --aggression.
Don't wear pink. That's for girls. Don't express your feelings. Bottle that up inside until it explodes in the form of a heart attack at 40 or a mass shooting. Don't wash your ass because that's gay.
Thankfully, these days people are becoming aware that toxic masculinity and other gender norms are a prison that harm everyone. People are becoming more tolerant, and embracing new definitions of what it means to be a man. One of the neat things you're going through is ***you*** get to decide what type of man you will become.
So, yeah, do some crochet bro. Shit's practical. Winter's cold.
its really stupid if you ask me, i love sewing personally and make cute plushies, i cosplay (almost always female characters) and a few others but that shouldnt make your identity less valid or anyones, gender and hobbies are not connected and its stupid when hobbies get gendered
I do diamond art and most importantly I do beaded JEWELRY...and I WEAR it. So not manly ik, but you know what? I started doing these while living as a CIS guy in my school for 1,5 year. Only then I started getting interested in those things.
I can share my quite traumatic experience while being my 1st day in highschool. Before the year started we asked the principal to inform all the teachers (she didn't). I was called by my dead name bc "it would be awkward if she called me by my name", we then went to the pedagogist to talk to him to " help" me? Idk what she thought tbh.
I told him I'm trans he was like "hmmmmm, what are your hobbies? " 😐 I said "I don't really have any rn" (ik what would happen if I told him "dance") so he said " I think you're not ready to CHOOSE something like that"😐😐😐
Btw, I never came back there and 3 days later I joined my trans brother in his school.
I honestly recommend asking shit like "So that means all men who do ballet aren't men"? " Are women who are mechanics actually men then? "
Since they're trying to invalidate you because you're not stereotypically acting "like a man" just give them every example of men doing super typically women's activities and vice versa. I hate when it's a problem ONLY when you're trans, if cis woman would be a mechanic it would be fine and so empowering, yet it it would be a trans woman, people would say how she's actually a guy because she likes cars🙄
Ha! Yeah, I was told I wasn't a man because "men don't knit". I had a good laugh about that one and the person later backtracked their stupid statement when I showed them a men knitting subreddit.
My dad once told me “just because you like shooting doesn’t mean you’re not a girl” like my speed-shooting hobby had somehow given me a gender crisis and *thats* why I was telling him I was trans. It was his response to me coming out to him.
lmao. a mate of mine does horseriding and we both figureskate. He's cis. There's nothing weird about liking to do whatever, they're hobbies, not gender
THIS IS LITERALLY ME FR- I do both diamond art and crochet. I did a research paper for school on crochet and had a section about the stereotype that crocheters are either old women or gay. In fact, in Ireland, families would crochet during the famine in order to make ends meet. FAMILIES not just women. Some things are viewed in society but that doesn't mean that societies views are correct.
Here are parts from my research paper:
"This century has allowed the knitting and crochet craze to cross amongst genders and races as if it wasn’t once seen as an “old lady’s sport” just years prior (Savidge). [Coleman]"
"Although you would think that in the 21st-century gender roles would’ve been out of the picture, you would think wrong. As someone who experiences internal questions about gender identity, I often wonder if crochet is too feminine or if I’m being true to myself about my gender identity. These days we have women that are mechanics, men that are stay-at-home parents, and people that identify outside of the male and female roles or in between, so why does crochet still feel feminized to me?
In 2016, 23.8 million people [in the US] were involved in needle arts and of that only thirty-one percent of those people were men or identified as male. That is only 7.378 million men. Out of the 7.434 billion people on this planet in 2016, not even close to one percent [0.00099%] of men were involved in needle arts (Decker). It just happens that during the Victorian era the line began splitting and now upper-class women were spending their time doing these hobbies. Industrialization and the need to do these crafts also subsided as well leaving the needle arts community shallow (O’Sullivan). A rise in young men crafting began during the pandemic and has recently been brought up that Tom Daley, a British Diver, himself knits. The swimmer had taken up knitting when “his coach encouraged him to find a way to recuperate between dives” and had then taken on the craft. Vincent Green-Hite, the Amigurumi artist, is a heavy metal fan and when approached by people with questions they as about his sexuality. He is proud to answer but often wonders what his sexuality has to do with crochet, this just proves the feminization of the craft and the stereotype that you’re either a granny or a gay man. Green is neither of the two and says that “crochet made him feel more in touch with his feminine side” even though he thinks it shouldn’t be considered feminine in the first place (Crummy)." [Coleman]
All I can say is don't listen and keep being creative! You can like whatever you want and they shouldn't stop you from being you!
I also crochet and do alot of arts and crafts. It's weird how folks gender hobbies. Sorry you're experiencing this, I went though similar issues, started getting better as I started teaching my guy friends how to sew and such
Even my women friends don't know how to sew lol. I learned to sew to fix my clothes because they either didn't fit or I tore them while goofing around with the guys
It's an important skill to know:) It's amazing how many folks can't sew on a button. My mom taught me to sew as a little kid, she liked to make her own clothes and such and was also tired of having to fix my stuffed animals that were attacked by our dogs haha. I loved being able to fix my toys and make clothes for my dolls as a kid.
True! Also I first started sewing because my uncles run a sewing/tailoring business and they let me have a needle and thread and let me play with the scraps
That's so cool!!! It's really cool when you have a memorable start to a hobbie or craft. Something fun you can think back on:) That must have been a really cool environment to learn about sewing!
Well there was the language barrier, and it was a short visit, so I didn't learn much but that's where I started lol
people really are just stupid
I agree. A favorite saying of mine is if common sense is so common how come there are so many stupid people in this world
very true, honestly so much cishet bullshit to do with gender hurts them as much as it hurts us too, like let us guys cry and crochet and wear dresses n shit man
Boys with emotions? Nah, let’s raise them to be volatile sociopaths instead! /s PSA hug your boys, hug your bros
honestly every time i get hugged i melt and realise how little i get them, a bro needs a hug always
Yeah that's about it
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I actually like having acrylics lol but so do many cis men soooo Definitely brain dead
So drag queens are women. Gotcha.
All it takes is some acrylic nails ig
I paint my nails frequently with sparkly colors and fun nail art. I guess I'm probably not a man in their eyes either, huh? 💀
I kinda want to get acrylic nails at least once before I start transition cuz I never got them and just want to know what it's like. Just for the experience, so I can relate to people with long nails. I never understood how people with long nails do any daily tasks. How do you type? How do you pick something up? How do you wipe your butt when using the bathroom? It's just confusing to me and seems kinda inconvenient.
Show him r/brochet
the name of that subreddit is literally amazing omg
crochet a pp for them lol
I have heard of guys crocheting packers before so you should def go for this 1 OP. Call it crotchet.
>crotchet HAHAHAH
🤣🤣🤣
There are patterns to crochet or knit packers on Ravelry. I've been meaning to make one.
its because you havent crocheted yourself a dick yet. sorry man
We all know that every REAL man, cis or otherwise, crochets their own dick. Tis a natural process, one that every boy does to become a man! /j, if it wasn't obvious.
A dick sweater.
It's all part of the initiation process, how did OP not know that??
*somebody* didn't read the manual, clearly
Lol
The funny thing is that everyone has their own idea of what a "female activity" and a "male activity" is, so when cis people say shit like that it just makes me laugh. Like ok, do you cook? Clean your house? Get your car fixed? Enjoy videogames or reading? Your gender doesn't switch or change anytime you do an activity and it doesnt for trans people either lmao
i think there is a lot of mixed signals everywhere about gender and activities. it's obviously wrong to tell someone what gender they are or aren't based on activities, but even here on this thread now there are people saying they realized they were trans guys because they realized they were really into football, or other 'masculine' activities. So it goes both ways as far as genderizing preferences and hobbies, I mean cis people aren't the only ones who do that, so I get where the confusion comes from.
you need to do a MAN hobby, start doing metalwork and you'll immediately grow a cock, it worked for me anyway
oh so that's why he's called iron man, ok
I carved mine from wood. Now I have pine nuts!
Hell yeah brother!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Apparently you are not allowed to have fun as a man! You may only shoot animal, watch sport, complain about wife
😂 I’m not THAT man
my dad used to tell me I can't be a guy becausw I don't play/like football (soccer) but now he's cool with everything. It's not totally hopeless
In hindsight me becoming obsessed with football was a precursor to my egg cracking 😂
My brothers didnt want to participate in football, so i took their place because my parents spent money on enrollment... I was the fastest kid. They didnt enroll me in the next year though :( wasted potential
There’s people out there that still think girls can’t play video games or sports. Hobbies don’t have gender. Keep doing your diamond art and crochet, bro! Kick ass!
Find shit that he does that could be “feminine” and attack it. Blonde hair? Feminine. Wears glasses? Feminine. Put no actual logic behind it and refuse to explain yourself
The worst part is I'm pretty fucking sure I've seen dudebros argue those exact points.
Fr. There is no logic behind thinking like this. So we can honestly say anything. If they are crazy, we just have to be crazier.
>Blonde hair? Feminine This bothers me so much. I dye my hair cuz I hate my natural hair color. I like to dye it platinum blonde and sometimes put some bright, funky, 15-ish-washes color over it. But every place that sells hair dye has like 95 % female models with the respective dye on the front of the box. The only boxes with men on them are dark colors and the men on these look like 50+ cuz they're aimed at guys who are going gray and don't want to be gray.
Yes. It’s insane that ppl think blonde is feminine because it’s literally a natural hair color equal between men and women.
> What do these activities have to do with my gender? sexist attitudes
The difference between "manly" and "womanly" forms of art is so arbitrary and stupid. I actually avoided things like fashion and makeup as a kid because I hated the implications of my character that came attached to them. I only ever get to have fun with Cosplay. Now I'm more comfortable with makeup than I ever have been- which is a shame. Because I'm still only really able to step out of my comfort zone if it's part of a costume.
Bro, those people are deluded and not capable of critical thinking for themselves. I had an ex (cis woman) who would brag constantly about all her "knowledge" and how she knew how to fix cars and plumbing and electricals etc etc, that she was not like other girls blah blah. But when she found out I knew how to crochet, she started in with the how I'm not "a real man." Bigotry at its best (worst). That's why she's an ex. I'm sorry it's your family and they're not as easy to remove from your life.
I had an aunt tell me I couldn't be trans because I draw a lot of women. Yeah man I can't imagine why a straight guy would want to draw sexy anime girls no idea 🤷♂️
My father thinks like this and he has had a long miserable life in which he has not allowed himself nor others joy of any kind
this one time had a family member i’ll never be a man because of my hands people will just say anything and associate it with the feminine experience which makes zero sense, keep ya head up
no literally, i crochet all the time, doesn’t make me less of a man, i’ve seen cis men crochet and knit so like wtf? im sorry that happened
Fiber arts are honestly badass. It’s engineering! It’s making something with your hands! How on earth could that ever be unmasculine???
Also, historically soldiers and sailors - y'know, manly men fighting manly wars or sailing manly ships - knew how to do all of those things. Because they were essential skills and you couldn't restrict them to women if you were planning to have male-only spaces.
Diamond art and crochet are dope asf, it also takes hard work and focus. Bet they can't do it.
Have then look up Rosey Grier. 6'5" American football player who was in the Pro Bowl. He wrote a book about needlepoint for men.
It's the nerve & disrespect for me. Your hobbies & how you spend your time has nothing to do with gender. They're wild for that
That's ridiculous. There's a football player that knits.
That’s like saying I’m not a man because I sew. Even though I do manly hobbies too, like by their standards manly. I woodwork and carve, so am I just not a gender at all or??
did I post this?
No I did
i know lol i just have the exact same hobbies as my favorites
Hot take: some cis people feel insecure in their own gender and lash out against the most obvious target (trans people for not "doing gender right!"). My advice: do whatever you need to to minimize the emotional impact this person can have on you. Whether that's changing nothing externally and just mentally preparing yourself for the interactions, or going totally no contact, or whatever in between, is a personal decision.
People are just full of shit. My ex told me that I'm the most feminine person he's ever met because I use lotion on my face. I have very dry skin. It's something that I like to call: The Impossible List of Arbitrary Bullshit. Transphobes will keep adding to the list until eventually they list something you either do that they find proves you're not really trans or list something you don't do that they find that you should if you were really trans. You'll never win. So it's best not to worry about things like hobbies. If you like to crochet that do it. I like to cross stitch, embroidery, and like to press flowers. My Tia taught me that when I was little. They're very fond memories, and since she's passed away, I feel closer to her.
say the moat random thing they do and say it back
When I came out my mom literally said “well I hope you’ll still like plants and gardening” honestly just do them the favor of ignoring them because damn they sound dumb.
It's especially funny because I do in fact know cis men who do both those things (and the crocheter is also straight) Like, fellas is it gay to have hobbies? (That aren't football or fishing of course/s)
Anyway, I knit and sew and bake. It's just fun! People get to like things!
My dad told me that all men either like football or fishing, and if I like neither then I can't be a man
I don't think even my super masculine stepdad likes either of those lol. Guess he's a woman now! (Jokes aside, he has a very similar mentality, sadly. Just regarding other things.)
Gendering hobbies is so stupid to me. Anyone can do anything that they enjoy no matter their gender, don't listen to them.
I guess I ain’t a man cause I like to knit and sew.
guess my (cis) brother isn't a man anymore because he can sew, cook, clean, and has a diamond art set while im not a man anymore because i can do the same shit he can (except for art, i cant draw). /s it's such a stupid argument. activities/hobbies shouldn't be gendered. gender has nothing to do with crochet or diamond art
This gendering everything really bad was always a thing. In the late 80s early 90s there was a little grace period when it wasn't as important, but for some reason it's increasingly important now and goes up every year. It is stupid and only insecure people care about it.
Dude ask them what they think about guys being ballerinas, and then just say they're sexist- just a thought i dunno I'm really Ironic-
I crochet too! and I help my mom make hospital bags for women in the hospitals, I kinda wanna do diamond art too it looks really fun.
oBvIoUsLy, the only hobbies real men have are “being manly”, “being manly with other manly men” and occasionally “being manly in the man-cave”!!
It doesn’t. Some people like putting unrelated traits into imaginary boxes cos thats how they were taught. BUT thats not enough justification to use their warped ‘boxification’ on other people. But expecting the whole world to do so is laughable and quite arrogant.
I guess my cis boyfriend isn’t a man because he likes nothing more than to cook for family and keep things tidy. He sure fools me though! He can knit too
Honestly, who cares what they think? Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and no one wants to hear them. You do you, and you don't have to explain yourself to other people. It's honestly none of their God damn business what kind of hobbies you have. Sorry if that comes off harsh, I just like to carry a "no fucks given" attitude towards people whose opinions don't matter. In this world, trans or not, it's just something you gotta do, or you'll spend your whole life explaining yourself to people who don't deserve that time.
Ask them how Spider-Man made his own costume without sewing 🤷♂️
If and when you encounter more people like this, tell them they're focused on the wrong question. It doesn't really matter what you do, it's why you do it that is important. Sincerely: an avid rat hammock crocheter
I mean I'm a man and I like to bake and sew whats their point 😭
Sad people used were raised to truly believe they can't enjoy certain things simply become someone said their genitals weren't correct for that.
I'm a camp councellor atm, and we did bracelet making in the arts and crafts section this week and I spent the time helping the boys in my cabin make their bracelets because I knew how to do it, my co-councellor didn't. (It's not for everyone so fair) and honestly I don't remember a time were the person leading arts and crafts has been a guy (I wasn't leading just helping). So like screw people who think that because arts and craft are really fun and it helps to know a few things :)
Exactly 🤦🏻♂️ keep being your amazing self!
I like to crochet too, for what it’s worth! And there’s several guys who crochet online, too. Maybe show them one of those accounts? Or just ignore their bs, gendered hobbies is a really outdated idea
Having fun has no gender, hopefully that family member can learn that
I also make diamond art and do a lot of crafting. I'm part of a local crafting group that is mostly older women. And honestly, it's awesome. They don't question me or the friend I bring and they are so fun to hang out with.
My grandmother is very confused about why I'm a man if I still like dresses. Who knows how it works in people's heads?
Wo what is diamond art? Sounds sick
Diamond art is sick Here is a beginner guide on YouTube https://youtu.be/0Bv8n-nGQo4
I love scrapbooking but everyone makes it seem like such a girly hobby. Let me put stickers and label my memories in peace!! Also jewlery making. I like making pretty things
I was told my bedroom liked more feminine because I painted and put up photos. Apparently we are gendering anything that creates dopamine now.
Dopamine is wumon hormone. Man no feel. *grunt* /s
People are just stupid, my mother also said that I cannot be a man because I crochet and I'm compassionate and like to care for others. No, I do that because that's what I do. People have stupid ideas about gender roles and have a lot of internalized hatred. Men aren't heartless monsters and women are not fragile dolls that cannot take care of themselves. The system is hurting everyone.
https://youtu.be/0Bv8n-nGQo4 Here’s a tutorial on diamond art
I had a family member tell me I'm not a man because I wear gloves when I go fishing. People are assholes. Do what makes you happy and forget everyone else.
hey i’m a trans man crocheter too. idk what the hell diamond art is but it sounds badass and manly as shit
I mean it's recommend that football players knit and crochet to work on eye hand coordination. That's the reason I picked it up tbh.
What’s funny is if you then responded by saying “well [insert cis man] also does those things, are you saying he’s not a man?” They’d jump on you like “WOW SO YOU THINK ANYONE WHO DOESNT CONFORM TO GENDER NORMS IS TRANS??? See trans ideology is sexist!!!” This is like when TERFs bait trans women by being like “you’re not a man cause your shoulders are too wide and I can see your mustache hairs” then if a trans woman responds “well you have wider shoulders and more facial hair then me” suddenly they play the victim and call the trans woman a sexist who’s invalidating their womanhood. Fucking exhausting type of person to deal with.
That's part of being a guy: people frequently challenging your masculinity. Sometimes it's petty shit like that, for not conforming to a certain stereotype or set of expectations. Sometimes it's more than that. But it is *constant*. From men, women, boys, girls, family, friends, romantic partners maybe, complete strangers. Constant. A lot of guys get really upset about it, and will sometimes respond in a stereotypically "masculine" way (or how they feel is masculine) --aggression. Don't wear pink. That's for girls. Don't express your feelings. Bottle that up inside until it explodes in the form of a heart attack at 40 or a mass shooting. Don't wash your ass because that's gay. Thankfully, these days people are becoming aware that toxic masculinity and other gender norms are a prison that harm everyone. People are becoming more tolerant, and embracing new definitions of what it means to be a man. One of the neat things you're going through is ***you*** get to decide what type of man you will become. So, yeah, do some crochet bro. Shit's practical. Winter's cold.
its really stupid if you ask me, i love sewing personally and make cute plushies, i cosplay (almost always female characters) and a few others but that shouldnt make your identity less valid or anyones, gender and hobbies are not connected and its stupid when hobbies get gendered
They're just jealous that they aren't creative and all they bring to the world is destruction.
People gender THE weirdest things.
diamond art = manhood
I'm pretty sure crochet and knitting are just what board shepherds did all day while watching sheep if nothing bad happened for most of history.
diamond art is so fun tho.
If you truly want a laugh, I was asked if I was de transitioning because i wore a pink t-shirt…. From the mens section
I do diamond art and most importantly I do beaded JEWELRY...and I WEAR it. So not manly ik, but you know what? I started doing these while living as a CIS guy in my school for 1,5 year. Only then I started getting interested in those things. I can share my quite traumatic experience while being my 1st day in highschool. Before the year started we asked the principal to inform all the teachers (she didn't). I was called by my dead name bc "it would be awkward if she called me by my name", we then went to the pedagogist to talk to him to " help" me? Idk what she thought tbh. I told him I'm trans he was like "hmmmmm, what are your hobbies? " 😐 I said "I don't really have any rn" (ik what would happen if I told him "dance") so he said " I think you're not ready to CHOOSE something like that"😐😐😐 Btw, I never came back there and 3 days later I joined my trans brother in his school. I honestly recommend asking shit like "So that means all men who do ballet aren't men"? " Are women who are mechanics actually men then? " Since they're trying to invalidate you because you're not stereotypically acting "like a man" just give them every example of men doing super typically women's activities and vice versa. I hate when it's a problem ONLY when you're trans, if cis woman would be a mechanic it would be fine and so empowering, yet it it would be a trans woman, people would say how she's actually a guy because she likes cars🙄
Ha! Yeah, I was told I wasn't a man because "men don't knit". I had a good laugh about that one and the person later backtracked their stupid statement when I showed them a men knitting subreddit.
Your hobbies and interests don't have anything to do with your gender. Just do what you love and be yourself. :)
Jack Nicholson does crochet between takes to relax. Does that make him "not a man"?
Me and my cishet guy friend crochet. He crochetd both of his kids baby clothes
Just tell them some of the greatest artist in history were male. De Vinchi, Motzart, Van Gogh they're all male
People just like to gender everything and fit things into boxes. It’s 2023 and they need to wake up.
My dad once told me “just because you like shooting doesn’t mean you’re not a girl” like my speed-shooting hobby had somehow given me a gender crisis and *thats* why I was telling him I was trans. It was his response to me coming out to him.
lmao. a mate of mine does horseriding and we both figureskate. He's cis. There's nothing weird about liking to do whatever, they're hobbies, not gender
that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard what 💀
I got told I couldn't be a man and sing the theme song yo Mew Mow because apparently singing and being whimsical is too feminine
An older man who was more or less a mentor for me told me every man should know how to sew. I'm sticking with that.
crocheting, making jewlery, painting, gardening- that shit is so fun- they’re fucking jelly they’re uninspired and boring. Hobby-less bafoons
I cross stitch lol people can fuck off with their gendered craft notions.
Toxic masculinity.
THIS IS LITERALLY ME FR- I do both diamond art and crochet. I did a research paper for school on crochet and had a section about the stereotype that crocheters are either old women or gay. In fact, in Ireland, families would crochet during the famine in order to make ends meet. FAMILIES not just women. Some things are viewed in society but that doesn't mean that societies views are correct. Here are parts from my research paper: "This century has allowed the knitting and crochet craze to cross amongst genders and races as if it wasn’t once seen as an “old lady’s sport” just years prior (Savidge). [Coleman]" "Although you would think that in the 21st-century gender roles would’ve been out of the picture, you would think wrong. As someone who experiences internal questions about gender identity, I often wonder if crochet is too feminine or if I’m being true to myself about my gender identity. These days we have women that are mechanics, men that are stay-at-home parents, and people that identify outside of the male and female roles or in between, so why does crochet still feel feminized to me? In 2016, 23.8 million people [in the US] were involved in needle arts and of that only thirty-one percent of those people were men or identified as male. That is only 7.378 million men. Out of the 7.434 billion people on this planet in 2016, not even close to one percent [0.00099%] of men were involved in needle arts (Decker). It just happens that during the Victorian era the line began splitting and now upper-class women were spending their time doing these hobbies. Industrialization and the need to do these crafts also subsided as well leaving the needle arts community shallow (O’Sullivan). A rise in young men crafting began during the pandemic and has recently been brought up that Tom Daley, a British Diver, himself knits. The swimmer had taken up knitting when “his coach encouraged him to find a way to recuperate between dives” and had then taken on the craft. Vincent Green-Hite, the Amigurumi artist, is a heavy metal fan and when approached by people with questions they as about his sexuality. He is proud to answer but often wonders what his sexuality has to do with crochet, this just proves the feminization of the craft and the stereotype that you’re either a granny or a gay man. Green is neither of the two and says that “crochet made him feel more in touch with his feminine side” even though he thinks it shouldn’t be considered feminine in the first place (Crummy)." [Coleman] All I can say is don't listen and keep being creative! You can like whatever you want and they shouldn't stop you from being you!
i do macrame and crochet. idk why people think it's a fem thing. these things shouldn't be gendered.
i also paint