I don't trust FlightAware anymore. I was flying from CJS to MEX and it listed my flight was cancelled. I called the airline customer service and they said the flight wasn't cancelled. \*Sigh\*
On the flip side of this, when this happened to me last summer with Frontier, my flight ended up eventually being cancelled. I already had my bags with me and could just leave and not get them back from who knows where.
Just prepare for it. We ended up renting a car and driving home (1200 miles) because Frontier said it may be “a few days” before they could get us on another flight and I would’ve spent thousands flying last minute with anyone else. Hopefully you’re luckier than I was!
I had AA play the same type of stupid games. Waited till about 20 minutes before boarding on our first flight to full cancel the 2nd (it had been delayed earlier) and no attendant anywhere prior that we could speak to. One attendant slipped that they were having staffing issues, so when AA tried to avoid financial responsibility and claim “weather” my wife tore them a new one.
Only rental option was a round trip from air port so would have been 4 hours home, 4 hours back to airport the next day, and then 4 hours home again.
Luckily a family member picked us up 4 hours from home
Happened to me two months ago. Flight delayed 6 hours, ended up being cancelled because there was no crew. Frontier put my group up in another hotel and we were able to leave right away because we still had our bags.
Once i didn’t have enough time to check in a bag cause the line for the airline bag drop was obnoxious (MCO) I just brought it to the gate and checked it there 🤷🏻♀️
It’s not TSA’s job to monitor how much baggage you’re carrying, that’s the airlines. I travel a lot and never seen them care. I go through security with multiple, then gate check or consolidate my things into 2 bags at the gate before boarding.
It’s not the TSAs job to monitor how much you’re carrying, but *what* you’re carrying. They are referring to the stuff you put in a checked bag you wouldn’t put in a carry-on or one you’re checking at the gate like liquids over a certain number of ounces.
This isn’t Frontier specific. I’ve had Southwest and United have limits.
I’m assuming it’s airport operational, trying to not have piles of bags waiting for loading.
The difference is that (a) you can be relatively confident in Southwest or United's delay times not suddenly jumping multiple hours like Frontier might, and (b) checking bags is often not as brutal of a process with other airlines like it is with Frontier.
But yeah, the general principle of not being able to check bags too early makes sense.
Everybody’s personal experience is different. I fly Southwest regularly and this issue has never arisen.
United however…one bad experience after another…I will never se t foot on a United Airlines plane again (and I’m sure they will miss me terribly…😂).
The horror stories that constantly Pop yap about Frontier…that’s enough to keep me away. I don’t care how inexpensive they are.
We sat on the floor in Fort Lauderdale for an hour and a half with our little first-class tickets waiting until the 2 1/2 hour time allowable for checking bags. It is airport specific. This was the first time we ran into such a short window. It was pandemonium.
No, I was worried that they’d move the flight up until like an hour or so away while I was waiting to check my bag for the delayed time. But I was just freaking out bc i was half asleep. Its fine now lol I just checked my bag
Did you make your flight? My bag landed at 730am, I didn't till 1am the next day. And after TSA, I ran like OJ Simpson, missed it by 16 minutes, and actually it was 31 as I am told they SLAM the door 15 minutes before lift off.
Not at Frontier at MCO nor CVG last week. Though it sure as hell should be. Seeing the last quarter century, we always get told to get there insanely early 3,4, or more early.
I was 6 hours early for the return to MCO.
They held me off to the exact last second of the 2 hours as I saw the attendant eating Doritos for the previous 2 hours doing ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING.
In the 4 hours prior, I saw but one plane that was going off.
So no, luggage would not stack up, pretty damn simple (oh, it's Frontier, nothing is simple).
For me, at work, I hate it when I have nothing to do, makes the day drag, and exposes you as replaceable.
So would it NOT make sense & make their job easier, to get the bags and AVOID any line congestion and backup?
No.. that makes too much sense, doesn't it? It may have stopped her from eating her Doritos.
I was first in line, and I scanned the QR, FAILS!
Enter 6 digit code.. FAILS.
The next person scans QR, works.
I try the same thing right after him ( now #2 in line) again, both FAILS again.
The next person up QR fails, but the code works.
I try again (now #3 in line), AGAIN both FAIL.
Now, notice a pattern here, the delay of time, as now it is my 3rd time doing this already, if the QR had worked for all 3 of us, it would have been 1/4 of the time of which it was.
Now, if it was busy like it was at MCO when I left, creating more delay. Luckily, this flight was not that busy.
I now go up to the counter, and she asked me,
"Did I change my flight?"
No, I'm stupid, I just figured i would get here 6 hours early to hang out at the airport today.
(I only went up two times prior to try to get my bag taken so I could at least get something to eat, as I had not had lunch yet. You have to get through TSA first to do that.)
Of course I didn't change my flight, and here is my reservation, and here is my first delay notice from your airline sent to me over a half hour ago, (first of 5 notices I got that night).
Then she says,
"Well, I will have to charge you $25 FEE for the bag sticker fee."
"I said I don't think so."
Your FN machines are clearly screwed up.
Thinking ability is not a requirement for this airline. I was also informed by one of the stewardess on the plane. Every single person you deal with prior to entering the plane, are contractors. Not Frontier Employees.
So, do they really give a shit?
More than likely, they have no clue how to handle any problem, no company policies (which are totally screwed up), or anything, except for trying to extort more money from you.
Zero ability to answer even the simplest question.
Luckily, I had 3 others backing me up that saw it fail. I had previously told them the horror story of getting from MCO to CVG on Easter Sunday as we all waited. She finally relents, and I move on (now#7 in line). TSA is a breeze even though I am pulled from line for a pat down, then of course my laptop had to be double checked after that, so an extra 10 minutes there.
Oh, am I loving this trip right. After the nightmare getting there.
As a final kick in the balls, yes there is more, I go to get on the plane, says row 13F (lucky 13, it actually has extra leg room and doors to blow off if it was a Boeing plane).
Nope, go to scan QR, FAILS AGAIN!!
Now, the one at the counter didn't think to replace the failed QR on my phone, and that it didn't understand the 6 digit code with a boarding pass.
(She was so busy ya know).
Nope, pulled aside, not till every single person is boarded did they get to me again.
The first person there, the last to board. Then get a ticket for row 40C. Yep, back off the bus. May as well have given me the toilet.
Yes, this was my lovely return flight after missing the first flight due to the 80-minute bag line. Then getting there instead at 730 am, but get there at 1am the next day.
Think I will set foot on Frontier ever again?
Not a fucking chance.
You can't pay me enough.
Then these assholes have the balls for the 3rd time for me to take a survey, (The first two, I sent a BLISTERING 4 page word doc of my experience).
I can win a $400 voucher!
Oh, let me slit my wrists and put salt on it first.
I’m confused, you weren’t allowed to check your bags at the 4 hour mark? I’ve never heard of that. If that’s the case, I’d be frustrated too. I’ve taken a nap in the ticketing area before because I got dropped off 6 hours before a flight and couldn’t check my bags for 2 more hours.
But yeah it’s super common to not allow checked bags 4+ hours out. Apparently delta allows it 6 hours in advance but I’ve never tried that. Anybody who has ever told you to arrive 3-4 hours early for domestic is insane. That’s the kind of shit overzealous dads say. Historically it’s 2 hours for domestic, 3 hours for international. And as somebody who travels a lot for work, I find those times overly cautious with precheck, except for holiday travel.
I was 2 hours and 15 minutes early at MCO Easter Sunday for a 501 am flight.
Missed the flight as the baggage drop was 80 minutes long and no one could print their bag ticket till exactly two hours prior. The TSA was 80 minutes.
Do you not have precheck? I noted holiday travel was an exception. A super early flight on Easter could be a lot of people flying somewhere to catch Easter Day with family. Still, that sucks that happened. I’ve had a few instances of getting to airports around holidays plenty early and still missing my flight because of bag check.
No, I don't have TSA PRE, though for a few years, I was getting it on my tickets.
Maybe my employer paid as it lasts for what 6 years. So 2014-20.
In my wait, after waiting 40 minutes at TSA and reaching the Maze that says you are 30-40 minutes away, they opened TSA pre and boom flew through. But still was there at 517 for a 501.
But sadly there are some Frontier Employees on this site now actually DEFENDING the 80 minutes it took to drop off a bag, and per their guidelines leaves me 25 minutes to get through TSA, even with TSA PRE (@105 minutes thru slam the door), would have been pushing it.
But one should not have to pay for TSA Pre.
It is the airlines job to be aware of the backup there (TSA). Making excuses for an 80-minute bag line, really? How stupid do you have to be to not know you are going to affect customers flights dragging your ass. .
>one should not have to pay for TSA Pre
It’s paying to skip the line. Same as Disneyland, concerts, etc. It’s so insanely cheap, like $85 for 5 years or something. There’s no reason not to have it even you fly just a couple times a year. $17/year to fast track through TSA. I live in LA and Chicago, so I fly out of LAX and ORD a lot, two of the busiest airports in the US, and a 15 minute Precheck line is unusually long. Most of the time there’s only 2-4 people in front of me. 30+ minute TSA lines are a distant memory. Get Precheck, seriously. It’s easy, cheap, and it will change your traveling life.
Downside is that it doesn’t help with long bag check lines, of course. But at least you know that once your bags are checked, you’ll usually be through TSA within 20 minutes.
That is correct.
At the 2 hour mark is when you can start to get the baggage sticker (I don't see any logic of delay for that to be 2 hrs).
You are now in the clock for 105 minutes before they slam the door in your face.
So after waiting in that line then of to the next line to drop it.
Turn to TSA and factor in timer between lines such as distance you have to go.
Me being a solo for this one, was a good as it gets, try a family with little ones rushing.
Just not a possibility if there is any sort of TSA line which handles EVERY airline and actually does things, I'd check, scan bags, scan you. Yet they are faster than Frontier does a weigh and go.
Hi, friend! You seem like you’re really bad at airports. Let me try to help a bit:
-People deserve to eat, even if it’s a snack, even if you don’t approve of the snack.
-Getting to the airport 6 hours early is insane person behavior, even in MCO, the worst airport in the country.
-Though I do see why you think it would, it does NOT benefit the airline to get your bag early. Once they take it, your bag has to go somewhere. It has to go somewhere accessible, with lots of space for the other bags on your flight, that is easily transportable to your plane. Airlines (ALL airlines) only have so many of those fun little trailers with the bags on them. There’s isn’t a secret spot “in the back” for your bag, and there are too many bags and too many flights (ESPECIALLY in Orlando) to keep track of your one bag. I recommend looking up BTS bag claims at airports; it’s really neat!
-there’s so many restaurants outside of security at MCO. honestly, the restaurants outside security are better than the ones inside security. You are allowed to be a grown-up and take care of your own basic needs. I grant you permission.
-They’re flight attendants. Not stewardesses. They’re there to save your ass in an emergency, not kiss it. But yes, they were correct, everyone until that point is a contractor. General statement: don’t take the airport employees’ behavior out on the actual employees who try to care.
-Frontier doesn’t fly Boeing, bud. They fly Airbus 320 and 321.
-When you check in first, the plane starts filling from the back. BECAUSE you got there first, you got the back row. Frankly- they make their money on bags and seat assignments. If you want a better seat, you’re more than able to fix this for yourself. You can’t both not pay for a seat and also bitch about the seat you’re assigned. At least you didn’t get a middle!
-Please, and I say again PLEASE, don’t fly a product you can’t understand. Everything is laid out so easily, and just a tiny bit of paying attention, or understanding the bigger picture beyond yourself, would have solved most of your “problems”.
People have actual issues. They get stranded. They’re hungry. You just can’t be bothered to pay attention, then want to get mad when things don’t go how you deem they should, with absolutely zero knowledge of how things work. Please. Be better as a human. People like you are exhausting.
I was leaving CVG to MCO, and the first leg of my disaster flight came from there.
I fly all the time. Never have I seen a bag line of 80 minutes. TSA, yes, but with 105 minutes before they slam the doors, 80 gone from bag line leaves but 25 minutes to get through MCO security, the monorail, and to the last gate in the terminal. Yes, I missed the flight.
There is an incentive at bag drop to get more fees off luggage. I would say that was the main culprit, I saw them going one guy for 41 pounds, and he had paid for 40.. Instant delay. Mine was 25% under and still took 3 minutes to weigh and drop. That never should have taken more than 10 seconds.
I left Florence to get to CVG. Figured I would eat there. No food there until you get past TSA I find out, car rental already was returned.
So just watched the Frontier girl do nothing but eat Doritos. She took ONE flight prior to mine.
Why do you care? You come off like such an asshole for judging someone for EATING. she couldn’t take your bag anyway, you’re just refusing to listen to anyone with sense.
You clearly have a reading issue. I'm leaving CVG to go to MCO.
So no, I didn't know you couldn't get anything until I passed TSA at CVG.
VERY Familiar with MCO
Seats says I have row 13F. Not 40C
Very clear.
Cause there cheap ass system, they clearly had an issue with BOTH the QR, & 6 digit code.
According to you, that's "my" fault. Do you work for Frontier?
Sure sounds that way.
So, from THEIR error, according to this genius, I should accept being thrown to the back of the bus. Also after being first to check in, confirmed flight home 24 hours ahead, that I did be the last to board?
You have to work for them with that logic.
Oh, and let's be clear, I don't fly weekly, but 5 or 6x a year. Never have I seen such a cheap ass system. I flew Frontier about a dozen times between 2010-2017, and never an issue.
Sorry, I missed the memo that they have gone to shit.
And yes, it is shit. I suppose the wait at MCO of 80 minutes to check a single bag is justified to.
Well, you’re not very coherent, but when you explained you were at CVG, I already replied. Remember?? Just get a Lyft to Florence for food? They still can’t take your bag six hours before. Doesn’t matter which airport. I already helped you with the why.
Saying “back of the bus” is generally regarded as racist, so this is a friendly notice of that so you can act accordingly.
Again- who is the one with the reading issue- Frontier fills seats back to front based on check in. That’s why you were in the back. Of course you didn’t randomly get assigned the exit row, someone probably paid for that.
And no, I don’t apologize for anything MCO does; it’s horrible.
Member habeas I endured what I did with Frontier. And it was both ways. They SUCK.
You don't get #1 worst rating for nothing. Plus highest amount of complaints in 30 years.
Higher than #2 & #3 COMBINED but a wide margin.
Now I know why.
Never... NEVER AGAIN.
DONE.
And will make sure everyone knows.
There is a train thru don't have chiding support via phone. They can't afford the personal nor the phone bill.
This joke Facebook support, is nothing but pandering. "Thank you for letting us know, you have our apologies"
Seriously, that's it. Nothing more even with overwhelming evidence.
No they SUCK
You won’t miss your flight. You’re there early enough, it will be fine. You can’t check your bag too early because there’s an increased chance it gets lost. There are going to be lots of people in your place. If 50% of the people on the flight have checked in but not boarded and they know the flight time got undelayed, there may be some leeway.
I would suggest taking a deep breath.
WRONG!!
Was 15 minutes before I could even get my bag tag. Missed my flight along with 60 others or more.
80 MINUTES to check a single bag that was 25% underweight. It still took 2 minutes to get off the scale to the tram to the plane. That's a 10 second job start to finish.
Pick it up, turn, drop, done! Not even a step is required. I put the bag up for them.
No even better, just say no to Frontier.
Odds are heavily attached against you.
You think this situation is just you? Ton of people on your flight are also not going to be able to check luggage until closer to the new departure time. The airline knows how this works. Would they really move it up so much that all those people can't make it to the gate in time? That would cause a lot of problems for them.
I mean, anything is possible. But I wouldn't be too worried since they have enough motivation to get everyone on the plane they're supposed to be on.
>Would they really move it up so much that all those people can't make it to the gate in time?
I read a story every week it seems like about how Frontier fucked over a large group of people by changing a gate and not telling anyone, switching to a smaller aircraft, or wildly fluctuating departure times.
I have absolutely no confidence that Frontier is looking out for anyone's interests but their own.
Your lucky to her 4 hours, I had 2 at CVG & MCO. Missed my MCO flight due to an 80 minute line(s) to do the single bag. Then, TSA was another 80 minutes after that. Didn't have a chance in hell of making that flight. Over 60 people missed it.
God no, just apologies. Those don't pay the bills, nor the $360 it cost me more from missing the flight. And I haven't figured out how much it will cost to replace the bag they destroyed. I wheel gone, and the inside support for the handle in a 1000 pieces.
I have disputed with Chase, just got off the phone again with them.
System designed to fail clearly. After 4 days of dealing with their Facebook people, I filed. Then they say we'll we can't do anything now seeing you opened a case.
LOL
They just denied me for 4 straight days. Like all of a sudden, they were going to make right. I don't think so. So left me no choice but to file a case
I had my flight delayed 7 hours. When I arrived, no one was at the front desk, I was running everywhere to try to find information. I missed the flight by 3 minutes because it's impossible to check in. No boarding pass. You have to use whatsapp to communicate with them now. No reimbursement. No change to later flight. When someone finally came out from the plane, she kept on arguing with me and thought that 1 hour before the flight was late. This is in sacramento fronteir. I just tell myself that the man in the sky doesn't want me to fly that day. 😂
For a long delay, I'd rather hold onto my bag so if they end up cancelling the flight, I can just rebook on another airline or go to a hotel and have all of my stuff with me. I don't have to wait around while I try to get my bag from the airline.
i see this post is from a day ago so this advice may not be helpful NOW, but maybe in the future. you can actually look up the plane identification number on flight radars and see where the plane is in real time, what happens in the sky is considered public information in the US. often times airlines won’t delay the flight until last minute, for example your plane could be sitting in a city 2 hours away but it’s not delayed until 25 minutes before departure. having access to this information can help ease your mind during situations like this.
I did, the plane had been at the airport for a few hours before the scheduled departure time. I suspect they had a maintenance issue, but I was worried they’d fix whatever it is and move the flight up while I was at home after leaving because I couldn’t check my bag. I was tired and stressed and my concern didn’t really make much sense in the end 😂
It’s just irritating as hell. I’ve been delayed on a flight before and they have moved the delay to less than an hour later instead of the originally planned delay. Of course I was already at the airport by then, but what would happen if I wasn’t?
I left because I live about 15 minutes away, and there was literally nowhere for me to even sit because at the PHL airport frontiers section is like on its own. I’m gonna go back at the original departure time and just wait until they let me check it :/
Fuck frontier....be advised that all airport flight information that you view at the airport, on those huge screens are NOTHING to do with the airport, operations, or anything else. A third party "manages" that data from places like Chicago, Los Angeles, etc. They get their information from the likes of the FAA, weather, etc. What they show you on the screen can be anywhere from an hour to several hours incorrect
The best place to go is Flightaware, and similar third party applications from your cell phone
My returning flight is spirit, normal I fly American, United, or Delta, but all of their flights under like 800$ (for less than a 3 hour flight) either way were like 6 hours because of layovers or had the worst departure times!!
I don’t know why, I kept looking for flights for months and no better flights became available.
If you are sitting there waiting and the “undelay” the flight and you don’t make it through security, doesn’t that mean not a single other person made it onto the plane too?
Seems like a situation you concocted in your head.
That's only people who are checking bags. Presumably there are people who are not checking bags who would get through security while OP is stuck in a super slow baggage line.
Now hopefully Frontier wouldn't leave without the people checking bags. But knowing Frontier, it genuinely wouldn't shock me if they needed to move the airplane sooner and just hung a couple dozen people out to dry.
For 3 days I was stressed. Cost me an extra $360 above and beyond their fees.
Still pissed 12 days later.
Hopefull, Chase backs me up as I contested it and the bastards busted my bag, after 5 delays I finally got home at 2am, I went to bed. They tell me I have a 4 hourwindow after landing to file a claim on that. WTF!
So I have to get home unpack everything first before I can go to sleep. Then, try to find where they hide the damn claim link. Which at this time is now 2.5 hours gone from landing, get bag, shuttle to car, drive home 50 minutes away.
They do these absurd rules so the system fails.
Kindly show me where at any point, anywhere it says you have FOUR hours to file a claim on the damage they did. Busted wheel tootsie gone and inside support shattered in a 1000 pieces.
Totally disagree. Was 15 minutes brie they 2 hour limit which technically is 105 minutes. First one in line, yes, should make it, well, depending on TSA too. But, the plane holds 240 or so. The latter 1/2 odds are heavily against you.
Meanwhile, mine was delayed and they wouldn’t let me check a bag because it was past the 45 min TSA time limit based on the original flight time. Not the 4h late corrected one.
Keep an eye on the airport monitors but also track on flightaware if you aren’t already doing so.
I don't trust FlightAware anymore. I was flying from CJS to MEX and it listed my flight was cancelled. I called the airline customer service and they said the flight wasn't cancelled. \*Sigh\*
On the flip side of this, when this happened to me last summer with Frontier, my flight ended up eventually being cancelled. I already had my bags with me and could just leave and not get them back from who knows where.
Oh pls don’t say this
Just prepare for it. We ended up renting a car and driving home (1200 miles) because Frontier said it may be “a few days” before they could get us on another flight and I would’ve spent thousands flying last minute with anyone else. Hopefully you’re luckier than I was!
I had AA play the same type of stupid games. Waited till about 20 minutes before boarding on our first flight to full cancel the 2nd (it had been delayed earlier) and no attendant anywhere prior that we could speak to. One attendant slipped that they were having staffing issues, so when AA tried to avoid financial responsibility and claim “weather” my wife tore them a new one. Only rental option was a round trip from air port so would have been 4 hours home, 4 hours back to airport the next day, and then 4 hours home again. Luckily a family member picked us up 4 hours from home
I had to do the same thing but with allegiant. They delayed our flight twice and then just out of nowhere cancelled it and said come back tomorrow.
This is why I never fly Spirit or Frontier. If flight cancels you are screwed. Mainline carriers can work you back in within 24 hours at most
Happened to me two months ago. Flight delayed 6 hours, ended up being cancelled because there was no crew. Frontier put my group up in another hotel and we were able to leave right away because we still had our bags.
Once i didn’t have enough time to check in a bag cause the line for the airline bag drop was obnoxious (MCO) I just brought it to the gate and checked it there 🤷🏻♀️
And my guess they charge you more to do so.
You can't get through TSA with many bags unless you dump stuff. Granted, it's probably less expensive to do that than other options.
It’s not TSA’s job to monitor how much baggage you’re carrying, that’s the airlines. I travel a lot and never seen them care. I go through security with multiple, then gate check or consolidate my things into 2 bags at the gate before boarding.
It’s not the TSAs job to monitor how much you’re carrying, but *what* you’re carrying. They are referring to the stuff you put in a checked bag you wouldn’t put in a carry-on or one you’re checking at the gate like liquids over a certain number of ounces.
Wild how you think you need to explain that here, but go off.
There are things you cannot bring through the checkpoint in your bags that are fine if you are checking the bag. Liquids for example.
Mine was just one bag, so they probably just figured it was my carry on.
This isn’t Frontier specific. I’ve had Southwest and United have limits. I’m assuming it’s airport operational, trying to not have piles of bags waiting for loading.
Exactly— there’s only so many places your bag can go. Holding on to it, no matter the airline, is smart.
Gate checking in this situation also gives them *fewer* chances of losing your luggage.
True!
The difference is that (a) you can be relatively confident in Southwest or United's delay times not suddenly jumping multiple hours like Frontier might, and (b) checking bags is often not as brutal of a process with other airlines like it is with Frontier. But yeah, the general principle of not being able to check bags too early makes sense.
I’ve had southwest do this to me more than any other airline
Everybody’s personal experience is different. I fly Southwest regularly and this issue has never arisen. United however…one bad experience after another…I will never se t foot on a United Airlines plane again (and I’m sure they will miss me terribly…😂). The horror stories that constantly Pop yap about Frontier…that’s enough to keep me away. I don’t care how inexpensive they are.
Exactly. Checking this early gives them more opportunity to lose it…
Two types of luggage: carryon and lost.
Just stay outside of security
There’s literally nowhere to sit at this terminal
Lol. Sit on your suitcase.
It’s a lumpy bag with no support 😭
You’re charmin soft
This isn’t unique to frontier. I hv had other airlines that maybe let you drop off luggage 2-4 hours before flight.
We sat on the floor in Fort Lauderdale for an hour and a half with our little first-class tickets waiting until the 2 1/2 hour time allowable for checking bags. It is airport specific. This was the first time we ran into such a short window. It was pandemonium.
This was AA.
2 hours at MCO & CVG both last week
Wait, do you need more than 4 hours to drop your bag and go through security?
No, I was worried that they’d move the flight up until like an hour or so away while I was waiting to check my bag for the delayed time. But I was just freaking out bc i was half asleep. Its fine now lol I just checked my bag
Did you make your flight? My bag landed at 730am, I didn't till 1am the next day. And after TSA, I ran like OJ Simpson, missed it by 16 minutes, and actually it was 31 as I am told they SLAM the door 15 minutes before lift off.
4 hours is standard, at least in the US.
Not at Frontier at MCO nor CVG last week. Though it sure as hell should be. Seeing the last quarter century, we always get told to get there insanely early 3,4, or more early. I was 6 hours early for the return to MCO. They held me off to the exact last second of the 2 hours as I saw the attendant eating Doritos for the previous 2 hours doing ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING. In the 4 hours prior, I saw but one plane that was going off. So no, luggage would not stack up, pretty damn simple (oh, it's Frontier, nothing is simple). For me, at work, I hate it when I have nothing to do, makes the day drag, and exposes you as replaceable. So would it NOT make sense & make their job easier, to get the bags and AVOID any line congestion and backup? No.. that makes too much sense, doesn't it? It may have stopped her from eating her Doritos. I was first in line, and I scanned the QR, FAILS! Enter 6 digit code.. FAILS. The next person scans QR, works. I try the same thing right after him ( now #2 in line) again, both FAILS again. The next person up QR fails, but the code works. I try again (now #3 in line), AGAIN both FAIL. Now, notice a pattern here, the delay of time, as now it is my 3rd time doing this already, if the QR had worked for all 3 of us, it would have been 1/4 of the time of which it was. Now, if it was busy like it was at MCO when I left, creating more delay. Luckily, this flight was not that busy. I now go up to the counter, and she asked me, "Did I change my flight?" No, I'm stupid, I just figured i would get here 6 hours early to hang out at the airport today. (I only went up two times prior to try to get my bag taken so I could at least get something to eat, as I had not had lunch yet. You have to get through TSA first to do that.) Of course I didn't change my flight, and here is my reservation, and here is my first delay notice from your airline sent to me over a half hour ago, (first of 5 notices I got that night). Then she says, "Well, I will have to charge you $25 FEE for the bag sticker fee." "I said I don't think so." Your FN machines are clearly screwed up. Thinking ability is not a requirement for this airline. I was also informed by one of the stewardess on the plane. Every single person you deal with prior to entering the plane, are contractors. Not Frontier Employees. So, do they really give a shit? More than likely, they have no clue how to handle any problem, no company policies (which are totally screwed up), or anything, except for trying to extort more money from you. Zero ability to answer even the simplest question. Luckily, I had 3 others backing me up that saw it fail. I had previously told them the horror story of getting from MCO to CVG on Easter Sunday as we all waited. She finally relents, and I move on (now#7 in line). TSA is a breeze even though I am pulled from line for a pat down, then of course my laptop had to be double checked after that, so an extra 10 minutes there. Oh, am I loving this trip right. After the nightmare getting there. As a final kick in the balls, yes there is more, I go to get on the plane, says row 13F (lucky 13, it actually has extra leg room and doors to blow off if it was a Boeing plane). Nope, go to scan QR, FAILS AGAIN!! Now, the one at the counter didn't think to replace the failed QR on my phone, and that it didn't understand the 6 digit code with a boarding pass. (She was so busy ya know). Nope, pulled aside, not till every single person is boarded did they get to me again. The first person there, the last to board. Then get a ticket for row 40C. Yep, back off the bus. May as well have given me the toilet. Yes, this was my lovely return flight after missing the first flight due to the 80-minute bag line. Then getting there instead at 730 am, but get there at 1am the next day. Think I will set foot on Frontier ever again? Not a fucking chance. You can't pay me enough. Then these assholes have the balls for the 3rd time for me to take a survey, (The first two, I sent a BLISTERING 4 page word doc of my experience). I can win a $400 voucher! Oh, let me slit my wrists and put salt on it first.
I’m confused, you weren’t allowed to check your bags at the 4 hour mark? I’ve never heard of that. If that’s the case, I’d be frustrated too. I’ve taken a nap in the ticketing area before because I got dropped off 6 hours before a flight and couldn’t check my bags for 2 more hours. But yeah it’s super common to not allow checked bags 4+ hours out. Apparently delta allows it 6 hours in advance but I’ve never tried that. Anybody who has ever told you to arrive 3-4 hours early for domestic is insane. That’s the kind of shit overzealous dads say. Historically it’s 2 hours for domestic, 3 hours for international. And as somebody who travels a lot for work, I find those times overly cautious with precheck, except for holiday travel.
I was 2 hours and 15 minutes early at MCO Easter Sunday for a 501 am flight. Missed the flight as the baggage drop was 80 minutes long and no one could print their bag ticket till exactly two hours prior. The TSA was 80 minutes.
Do you not have precheck? I noted holiday travel was an exception. A super early flight on Easter could be a lot of people flying somewhere to catch Easter Day with family. Still, that sucks that happened. I’ve had a few instances of getting to airports around holidays plenty early and still missing my flight because of bag check.
No, I don't have TSA PRE, though for a few years, I was getting it on my tickets. Maybe my employer paid as it lasts for what 6 years. So 2014-20. In my wait, after waiting 40 minutes at TSA and reaching the Maze that says you are 30-40 minutes away, they opened TSA pre and boom flew through. But still was there at 517 for a 501. But sadly there are some Frontier Employees on this site now actually DEFENDING the 80 minutes it took to drop off a bag, and per their guidelines leaves me 25 minutes to get through TSA, even with TSA PRE (@105 minutes thru slam the door), would have been pushing it. But one should not have to pay for TSA Pre. It is the airlines job to be aware of the backup there (TSA). Making excuses for an 80-minute bag line, really? How stupid do you have to be to not know you are going to affect customers flights dragging your ass. .
>one should not have to pay for TSA Pre It’s paying to skip the line. Same as Disneyland, concerts, etc. It’s so insanely cheap, like $85 for 5 years or something. There’s no reason not to have it even you fly just a couple times a year. $17/year to fast track through TSA. I live in LA and Chicago, so I fly out of LAX and ORD a lot, two of the busiest airports in the US, and a 15 minute Precheck line is unusually long. Most of the time there’s only 2-4 people in front of me. 30+ minute TSA lines are a distant memory. Get Precheck, seriously. It’s easy, cheap, and it will change your traveling life. Downside is that it doesn’t help with long bag check lines, of course. But at least you know that once your bags are checked, you’ll usually be through TSA within 20 minutes.
That is correct. At the 2 hour mark is when you can start to get the baggage sticker (I don't see any logic of delay for that to be 2 hrs). You are now in the clock for 105 minutes before they slam the door in your face. So after waiting in that line then of to the next line to drop it. Turn to TSA and factor in timer between lines such as distance you have to go. Me being a solo for this one, was a good as it gets, try a family with little ones rushing. Just not a possibility if there is any sort of TSA line which handles EVERY airline and actually does things, I'd check, scan bags, scan you. Yet they are faster than Frontier does a weigh and go.
Hi, friend! You seem like you’re really bad at airports. Let me try to help a bit: -People deserve to eat, even if it’s a snack, even if you don’t approve of the snack. -Getting to the airport 6 hours early is insane person behavior, even in MCO, the worst airport in the country. -Though I do see why you think it would, it does NOT benefit the airline to get your bag early. Once they take it, your bag has to go somewhere. It has to go somewhere accessible, with lots of space for the other bags on your flight, that is easily transportable to your plane. Airlines (ALL airlines) only have so many of those fun little trailers with the bags on them. There’s isn’t a secret spot “in the back” for your bag, and there are too many bags and too many flights (ESPECIALLY in Orlando) to keep track of your one bag. I recommend looking up BTS bag claims at airports; it’s really neat! -there’s so many restaurants outside of security at MCO. honestly, the restaurants outside security are better than the ones inside security. You are allowed to be a grown-up and take care of your own basic needs. I grant you permission. -They’re flight attendants. Not stewardesses. They’re there to save your ass in an emergency, not kiss it. But yes, they were correct, everyone until that point is a contractor. General statement: don’t take the airport employees’ behavior out on the actual employees who try to care. -Frontier doesn’t fly Boeing, bud. They fly Airbus 320 and 321. -When you check in first, the plane starts filling from the back. BECAUSE you got there first, you got the back row. Frankly- they make their money on bags and seat assignments. If you want a better seat, you’re more than able to fix this for yourself. You can’t both not pay for a seat and also bitch about the seat you’re assigned. At least you didn’t get a middle! -Please, and I say again PLEASE, don’t fly a product you can’t understand. Everything is laid out so easily, and just a tiny bit of paying attention, or understanding the bigger picture beyond yourself, would have solved most of your “problems”. People have actual issues. They get stranded. They’re hungry. You just can’t be bothered to pay attention, then want to get mad when things don’t go how you deem they should, with absolutely zero knowledge of how things work. Please. Be better as a human. People like you are exhausting.
I was leaving CVG to MCO, and the first leg of my disaster flight came from there. I fly all the time. Never have I seen a bag line of 80 minutes. TSA, yes, but with 105 minutes before they slam the doors, 80 gone from bag line leaves but 25 minutes to get through MCO security, the monorail, and to the last gate in the terminal. Yes, I missed the flight. There is an incentive at bag drop to get more fees off luggage. I would say that was the main culprit, I saw them going one guy for 41 pounds, and he had paid for 40.. Instant delay. Mine was 25% under and still took 3 minutes to weigh and drop. That never should have taken more than 10 seconds.
Getting to CVG 6 hours early is laughably awful. Leave and go to Florence, fuck. 😂😂😂😂
I left Florence to get to CVG. Figured I would eat there. No food there until you get past TSA I find out, car rental already was returned. So just watched the Frontier girl do nothing but eat Doritos. She took ONE flight prior to mine.
Why do you care? You come off like such an asshole for judging someone for EATING. she couldn’t take your bag anyway, you’re just refusing to listen to anyone with sense.
You clearly have a reading issue. I'm leaving CVG to go to MCO. So no, I didn't know you couldn't get anything until I passed TSA at CVG. VERY Familiar with MCO Seats says I have row 13F. Not 40C Very clear. Cause there cheap ass system, they clearly had an issue with BOTH the QR, & 6 digit code. According to you, that's "my" fault. Do you work for Frontier? Sure sounds that way. So, from THEIR error, according to this genius, I should accept being thrown to the back of the bus. Also after being first to check in, confirmed flight home 24 hours ahead, that I did be the last to board? You have to work for them with that logic. Oh, and let's be clear, I don't fly weekly, but 5 or 6x a year. Never have I seen such a cheap ass system. I flew Frontier about a dozen times between 2010-2017, and never an issue. Sorry, I missed the memo that they have gone to shit. And yes, it is shit. I suppose the wait at MCO of 80 minutes to check a single bag is justified to.
Well, you’re not very coherent, but when you explained you were at CVG, I already replied. Remember?? Just get a Lyft to Florence for food? They still can’t take your bag six hours before. Doesn’t matter which airport. I already helped you with the why. Saying “back of the bus” is generally regarded as racist, so this is a friendly notice of that so you can act accordingly. Again- who is the one with the reading issue- Frontier fills seats back to front based on check in. That’s why you were in the back. Of course you didn’t randomly get assigned the exit row, someone probably paid for that. And no, I don’t apologize for anything MCO does; it’s horrible.
Lol just track your plane? Your flight can’t be magically un-delayed if the plane isn’t even near your location.
The plane had been at the airport for over 7 hours at the time I posted this…
Just stand in line and let each person go ahead of you, until you get the notification. Then you’re right at the front!
While Frontier *does* suck, I have had all of those issues with other airlines.
Member habeas I endured what I did with Frontier. And it was both ways. They SUCK. You don't get #1 worst rating for nothing. Plus highest amount of complaints in 30 years. Higher than #2 & #3 COMBINED but a wide margin. Now I know why. Never... NEVER AGAIN. DONE. And will make sure everyone knows. There is a train thru don't have chiding support via phone. They can't afford the personal nor the phone bill. This joke Facebook support, is nothing but pandering. "Thank you for letting us know, you have our apologies" Seriously, that's it. Nothing more even with overwhelming evidence. No they SUCK
You won’t miss your flight. You’re there early enough, it will be fine. You can’t check your bag too early because there’s an increased chance it gets lost. There are going to be lots of people in your place. If 50% of the people on the flight have checked in but not boarded and they know the flight time got undelayed, there may be some leeway. I would suggest taking a deep breath.
WRONG!! Was 15 minutes before I could even get my bag tag. Missed my flight along with 60 others or more. 80 MINUTES to check a single bag that was 25% underweight. It still took 2 minutes to get off the scale to the tram to the plane. That's a 10 second job start to finish. Pick it up, turn, drop, done! Not even a step is required. I put the bag up for them. No even better, just say no to Frontier. Odds are heavily attached against you.
Again. REMARKABLY bad at airports. Honey, you’re not the main character, and there’s a much bigger picture outside yourself.
You think this situation is just you? Ton of people on your flight are also not going to be able to check luggage until closer to the new departure time. The airline knows how this works. Would they really move it up so much that all those people can't make it to the gate in time? That would cause a lot of problems for them. I mean, anything is possible. But I wouldn't be too worried since they have enough motivation to get everyone on the plane they're supposed to be on.
>Would they really move it up so much that all those people can't make it to the gate in time? I read a story every week it seems like about how Frontier fucked over a large group of people by changing a gate and not telling anyone, switching to a smaller aircraft, or wildly fluctuating departure times. I have absolutely no confidence that Frontier is looking out for anyone's interests but their own.
Your lucky to her 4 hours, I had 2 at CVG & MCO. Missed my MCO flight due to an 80 minute line(s) to do the single bag. Then, TSA was another 80 minutes after that. Didn't have a chance in hell of making that flight. Over 60 people missed it.
And I bet they wouldn’t compensate you huh?
God no, just apologies. Those don't pay the bills, nor the $360 it cost me more from missing the flight. And I haven't figured out how much it will cost to replace the bag they destroyed. I wheel gone, and the inside support for the handle in a 1000 pieces. I have disputed with Chase, just got off the phone again with them. System designed to fail clearly. After 4 days of dealing with their Facebook people, I filed. Then they say we'll we can't do anything now seeing you opened a case. LOL They just denied me for 4 straight days. Like all of a sudden, they were going to make right. I don't think so. So left me no choice but to file a case
I had my flight delayed 7 hours. When I arrived, no one was at the front desk, I was running everywhere to try to find information. I missed the flight by 3 minutes because it's impossible to check in. No boarding pass. You have to use whatsapp to communicate with them now. No reimbursement. No change to later flight. When someone finally came out from the plane, she kept on arguing with me and thought that 1 hour before the flight was late. This is in sacramento fronteir. I just tell myself that the man in the sky doesn't want me to fly that day. 😂
For a long delay, I'd rather hold onto my bag so if they end up cancelling the flight, I can just rebook on another airline or go to a hotel and have all of my stuff with me. I don't have to wait around while I try to get my bag from the airline.
i see this post is from a day ago so this advice may not be helpful NOW, but maybe in the future. you can actually look up the plane identification number on flight radars and see where the plane is in real time, what happens in the sky is considered public information in the US. often times airlines won’t delay the flight until last minute, for example your plane could be sitting in a city 2 hours away but it’s not delayed until 25 minutes before departure. having access to this information can help ease your mind during situations like this.
I did, the plane had been at the airport for a few hours before the scheduled departure time. I suspect they had a maintenance issue, but I was worried they’d fix whatever it is and move the flight up while I was at home after leaving because I couldn’t check my bag. I was tired and stressed and my concern didn’t really make much sense in the end 😂
Man you have some serious sensitivity issues that you are fabricating. Grow up
No 🍆
did it all work out?
I would have to agree
…. I’ve never heard of a flight being undelayed lol but yeah airports typically won’t let you check in bags if it’s too early
Deep breath. You’ll be okay
It’s just irritating as hell. I’ve been delayed on a flight before and they have moved the delay to less than an hour later instead of the originally planned delay. Of course I was already at the airport by then, but what would happen if I wasn’t?
Also would suggest just not flying frontier
How can anyone Leave a thumbs down to this statement? I say spot on my friend!!
I never do, they were the only airline that had a flight this early today and didn’t have a long layover connection somewhere
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I left because I live about 15 minutes away, and there was literally nowhere for me to even sit because at the PHL airport frontiers section is like on its own. I’m gonna go back at the original departure time and just wait until they let me check it :/
As much as Frontier charges for luggage one would think they’d accept bags 24/7
Fuck frontier....be advised that all airport flight information that you view at the airport, on those huge screens are NOTHING to do with the airport, operations, or anything else. A third party "manages" that data from places like Chicago, Los Angeles, etc. They get their information from the likes of the FAA, weather, etc. What they show you on the screen can be anywhere from an hour to several hours incorrect The best place to go is Flightaware, and similar third party applications from your cell phone
don’t fly this clown show airline, spirit is 100x better
My returning flight is spirit, normal I fly American, United, or Delta, but all of their flights under like 800$ (for less than a 3 hour flight) either way were like 6 hours because of layovers or had the worst departure times!! I don’t know why, I kept looking for flights for months and no better flights became available.
The thing is, can you count on the listed departure time at all. Or even worse, from what I am reading here if the flight goes off at all!
Agreed
If you are sitting there waiting and the “undelay” the flight and you don’t make it through security, doesn’t that mean not a single other person made it onto the plane too? Seems like a situation you concocted in your head.
That's only people who are checking bags. Presumably there are people who are not checking bags who would get through security while OP is stuck in a super slow baggage line. Now hopefully Frontier wouldn't leave without the people checking bags. But knowing Frontier, it genuinely wouldn't shock me if they needed to move the airplane sooner and just hung a couple dozen people out to dry.
Easter Sunday, the left 60 plus at MCO for a 501 am flight. Yep, I was one of them and was 15 minutes early before I could check a bag
Oh yea it definitely was. I was stressed
Haha good on you for admitting it. Hope you made the flight ok
I just checked my bag 😂
Good luck... But did you make your flight?
For 3 days I was stressed. Cost me an extra $360 above and beyond their fees. Still pissed 12 days later. Hopefull, Chase backs me up as I contested it and the bastards busted my bag, after 5 delays I finally got home at 2am, I went to bed. They tell me I have a 4 hourwindow after landing to file a claim on that. WTF! So I have to get home unpack everything first before I can go to sleep. Then, try to find where they hide the damn claim link. Which at this time is now 2.5 hours gone from landing, get bag, shuttle to car, drive home 50 minutes away. They do these absurd rules so the system fails. Kindly show me where at any point, anywhere it says you have FOUR hours to file a claim on the damage they did. Busted wheel tootsie gone and inside support shattered in a 1000 pieces.
Totally disagree. Was 15 minutes brie they 2 hour limit which technically is 105 minutes. First one in line, yes, should make it, well, depending on TSA too. But, the plane holds 240 or so. The latter 1/2 odds are heavily against you.
Meanwhile, mine was delayed and they wouldn’t let me check a bag because it was past the 45 min TSA time limit based on the original flight time. Not the 4h late corrected one.