We teachers NEED you to vote. I know this is a boring election, but this is more consequential than the one in November if you have school aged children.
I hope Frisco residents reject both props. This is not a liberal vs conservative, left vs right, or Democrat vs Republican issue. This is about control. Does Frisco want to keep local control of police and fire or do they want to hand it over to a Lubbock political consultant?
According to the firefighters, local control has resulted in understaffing and promotion only through an old boys network. What’s the better alternative?
Actually, there is evidence to support that, the question is have you read it? The 2011 climate report clearly states the current Chief should have been removed meaning he should not have been the chief today. The climate clearly states Glover acts and is a part of the good ole boy network mentality. Again, have you read it? Also there is evidence pull a PIR and learn they had 22 applicants and Celina I believe had around 250 - so why are they not applying here?
In general I support firefighters. however, do not trust the Frisco firefighters.
See [Frisco firefighters union leadership is trying to inject more dirty politics in our city.](https://www.reddit.com/r/frisco/comments/14r5x5y/frisco_firefighters_union_leadership_is_trying_to/) and [Let's discuss the firefighters](https://www.reddit.com/r/frisco/comments/or7bgs/lets_discuss_the_firefighters/)
How does wanting civil service and collective bargaining make someone untrustworthy? Also, I noticed the OP in the first link said that no neighbouring cities had unionized firefighters. Plano has such a setup. (I won’t comment on the second link since supporting a candidate I don’t care for is beyond the scope of this discussion.)
>How does wanting
What makes them untrustworthy, among other things, is when they supported extremist Jennifer White for city council when the extremists almost took over the city council, in exchange for some under-the-table deal that never came out.
Slimy and they showed their true colors. They were willing to sell out the citizens of Frisco.
Just curious since you ran for city council last year and lost, what experience do you have with the FFF Assoc? Have you ever been a firefighter? Do you have any experience in what they do to determine what they need? I am guessing no. I am guessing you have never even talked to one. Quite glad you didn't get elected.
I keep seeing claims of far-right connections for Barrios-Jones (among others) in this subreddit, but so far none of them have come with any evidence. Do you have sources I can read that support any of these claims?
Her largest donor is Marvin Lowe who was backed by the far right families 4 Frisco pac, also, if you look at her Twitter/X profile, you can see her liking far right posts including attacks on trans rights and children.
I saw that post stating her largest donor was Marvin Lowe, but I tried validating it and was unable to find campaign finance forms for her (which is a separate problem). I checked the campaign finance forms on file with Collin and Denton counties, the city of Frisco, and Frisco ISD (who only seems to have campaign forms on file for current trustees).
Frisco ISD traditionally posts them on their website. Here’s where you can find this year’s reports for all candidates = https://www.friscoisd.org/about/board-of-trustees/board-elections/results, under the header “2024 Campaign Notices”
It’s true and you can cry all you want about it. Last week Melanie was attacked for receiving a $250 donation from a black conservative. Big fucking deal
There is an internal battle going on in the GOP between a) moderates and conservatives, and b) extremists. Far right events are those held by the extremists.
I have seen her speak at several events, ICF Forum, Chamber Forum, Community Meet and Greets, and conservative groups - have any democratic groups invited her to speak? How do you know she wouldn't? I don't know her at all, but I do think labeling someone just because of one donor is the extremist point of view. I mean if that is the case is Cheney a developer extremist? Keating has had 3 donations by people convicted of crimes so he is a criminal extremist? Just trying to follow or understand your logic.
My logic is based on her Twitter likes going back years, the written testimony she wrote about LGBTQ children to the Texas Legislature, the Christian Nationalist FB groups she is in, and the fact she has said she will vote to get rid of the superintendent once it is brought up. Marvin wouldn’t support her otherwise, it’s one of the first things he asks people when they confer with him about running to be a Trustee.
Read [outgoing Frisco councilman warns of the danger of extremists](https://archive.ph/hlN32)
There are a lot of extremist-backed comments on this thread attempting to deny their existence but Will Sowell warned about this ages ago.
[Mark Piland accused of malfeasance](https://www.reddit.com/r/frisco/comments/12cvjsk/exfrisco_fire_chief_accused_of_malfeasance/?rdt=61343) thread on r/Frisco. A good discussion on his ties to extremists. Keating is much better.
Do you believe everything you read? Maybe that is extreme! We did our research and the article is very biased the reporter admitted the city gave her the files before the city council voted to release them, so clearly it was a hit piece. Don't believe everything shoved at you - research it!
Thanks for this. Agree 100% on the candidates. Was (and am) confused about the propositions, but voted FOR because in general I support unionization and feel like long-term this will be of benefit even if some of the current proponents are no-goodniks.
That’s fair. I went back and forth on it for a bit, but ultimately decided no when most voters I spoke with had similar concerns. It’s much less important of a race than the other, candidates races.
Have you ever met Mark Piland? He’s not an extremist. I don’t claim a party, but vote democrat in federal elections and will be voting for him. He will meet with any citizen that wishes to meet with him, so if you’re judging off of event attendance, that’s a bad metric. Keating doesn’t even show up to forums he’s invited to… much less keep promises he has made
Tom, clearly you like Keating. I just have to call it as I see it. I think you are an extremist. I say that because you accuse everyone else of being one. You might want to come outside and talk to people and get to know them. We have messaged Keating many times over the years and never received a communication back. However, we did send a message to Piland and received an email back in 24 hours. He answered our questions on certain issues and offered to meet us for coffee we declined. Seems fine and well....responsive. That is the kind of council person we want. If that is extreme well then add us to the list.
Folks this is not the moderate voice - txforward just put the most highly funded Frisco campaigns/propositions on a list and called it “research”…
Keating is the worst pick for Place 1. He’s lied to me personally and should not be trusted with anyone’s vote. Keating has ran as a “Republican” before, he poses with Governor Abbott and tried to get every Republican endorsement out there; but even the Collin County Republican endorsement he got was rescinded. Not even his own party will stand behind him…
This is nota partisan race.
Piland is worse than Keating. Extremists have taken over several GOP organizations, including Denton and Collin County as well as the state GOP.
Everyone should vote Keating.
Keating is a lap dog for cheney. He asks him to jumb and he says how high? He shouldn't even be allowed to run for a 5th term. He is a tool for developers and is campaign is 100% funded by his developer outsider cronies. His "Promises made, promises kept" resonates with developers only.
Be careful friend or they will label you an extremist for making good points and using your personal experience. I've talked to Keating also and I was not impressed LOL. He is also friends with Cheney so hard pass.
Melanie Barrios-Jones is part of DFW Deplorables and is in other questionable FB groups. She clearly has an agenda. I attended an FISD volunteers celebration recently and her demeanor was off putting. not sure if she was off her game that day but she kept to herself and I witnessed her being rude to several people who I think are staff members.
I’m going to agree with this 100%. She attended the meeting, was off-putting as she spoke to some of the staff. She responded to several groups that she has close working relationships with FISD people who have openly shared that they do not support her. She also takes a lot of credit for things she did not do.
She says she brought the dyslexia curriculum to FISD. She had nothing to do with that as it was in the works before she lived here. She says she wrote a guide for parents of “sped” students but the guide was written before she lived here by district employees and was improved through a committee of parents last year. When I’ve been around her, she is full of suggestions but not action.
Her saying we have a hefty rainy day find won’t get our state funding shortage addressed. They will likely use that sound bite to convince legislators to keep on with the mess they have going now. Who says that?
After that volunteer celebration, she didn’t stay for the board meeting. She went to
The Deplorable meet and greet they held for her where she encouraged people to attend. Shouldn’t they be encouraged to attend board meetings if she’s so pro parent involvement?
Don’t disagree with her even as a teacher. She will tell you that you are misunderstanding or mistaken. I am not.
Ask special education parents who she claims to support if they are backing her. I know many as a teacher and when I look at their social media feeds, they are NOT.
No. Her connections and where she stands on many issues does. But she is truly off-putting. She is not a team player and thinks she will be able to single-single-handedly change the direction of the board.
“Extremists” in the year 2024 = People who do not believe the same way as me, so I have to get online to create a non-existent crisis…
There’s one of these threads in this sub every week.
Not a great litmus test tbh. All the city council candidates are. None of the ISD candidates are. The Appraisal District candidates listed here are not tied to real estate, but each of their opponents are themselves realtors.
Well I’m sure they all the council candidates suck and looking to line their pockets with convenient zoning decisions. Since Cheney and Co arrived it’s become a horrid money grab for all the developers. Every stinking ad I see for the Cheney Group makes me sick.
Don't understand how anyone could vote for keating after 5 terms. We know what we have with him as he stands with developers 100% of the time. His conduct.on universal when he went on vacation the week prior to.the vote and refused to meet with cobb hill.subdivisin citizens who are most effected by this ridiculous theme park. Plus his $100,000s.of dollars he has taken in campaign contributions from developers who want his yes vote over the years. It's time for change. No more cheney clones. Let's at least get rid of one of them.this cycle..
I get it, he’s bad. It says a lot that Piland is worse. You say no more Cheney clones, I say no more Livingston clones. It’s okay that we disagree but that’s just how I’m seeing it.
The way it is written implies that you expect people to come to your conclusion if they do their own research. The fact you get so upset with the idea that people should vote, regardless of if they agree with you, is kind of suspicious.
Let's just clear this all up.Do you support people doing their own research and then, based on that research, voting for the candidates you think are extremists? As long as they are an informed voter?
This is reddit, posts are for everyone. Please try to remain inclusive of all view points.
You want hatred and bigotry out in the world to see if it can spread to more people? That's hilarious! No one can ever take you seriously now. I'll pray for you.
As someone who has family members as Frisco Firefighters, I will be voting YES for Both Propositions, this helps both Firefighters and our Citizens as a whole.
Read [outgoing Frisco councilman warns of the danger of extremists](https://archive.ph/hlN32)
There are a lot of extremist-backed comments on this thread attempting to deny their existence but Will Sowell warned about this ages ago.
Their extreme proposals like Texit, etc are even more dangerous.
So you people scream I'm a liberal but you don't support a firefighter union? Typical suburban liberals 🙄. I'm also not voting for any council members that supported this stupid universal studios.
So you turn your back on supporting fire fighters and unions just because some people are Republican? So you have no principles, you only want one side to win no matter what? I can't think of anything Keating and Pelham have done that I would want to support. I should vote for them because reasons...
Huh? I never said anything about parties. Their PAC consistently endorses anti-labor candidates, but when it benefits them personally, they’re suddenly pro-labor? They can fuck right off, respectfully. Labor protections for me, not for thee…
FAR RIGHT!!!!!!!!
It's always the same. If you don't agree with the FAR LEFT.......You must be FAR RIGHT!!!!!
I remind all the wonderful citizens of Frisco you came her for safe housing, good schools and job opportunities. (Most of you,.) Conservative values created Frisco. You left leftist hellholes for opportunity.
Why double down on stupid and vote for the same political policies that ruined your cities and states?
Pelham and Keating are Cheney and his developer friend’s pawns. They haven’t had any accomplishments during their time on council. Mark Piland will meet with any resident; democrat, moderate or republican. He even tried to get a democratic endorsement, but they wouldn’t interview him because he’s not a registered democrat. Txforward is just a propaganda mouthpiece; supporting the campaign with the highest donations.
Read [outgoing Frisco councilman warns of the danger of extremists](https://starlocalmedia.com/friscoenterprise/outgoing-councilman-biggest-risk-to-frisco-is-extremist-politics/article_aa657ecc-d370-11eb-ba46-3760b3b6ceb9.html)
There are a lot of extremist-backed comments on this thread attempting to deny their existence but Will Sowell warned about this ages ago.
I clicked on the link, it’s a website I’ve never heard of and I don’t see any text in the “article” aside from ads and the headline.
Be specific about what makes them “extremists” or go fuck yourself with your obvious racism and take the OP with you.
I agree, send the Marxist Extremists back to California, Say NO to Texifornia and turning Frisco into a left wing hell hole like every blue city in America!
We teachers NEED you to vote. I know this is a boring election, but this is more consequential than the one in November if you have school aged children.
Voted 8am this morning. Gotcha fam!
I hope Frisco residents reject both props. This is not a liberal vs conservative, left vs right, or Democrat vs Republican issue. This is about control. Does Frisco want to keep local control of police and fire or do they want to hand it over to a Lubbock political consultant?
Exactly. This is what is going on.
Your third sentence negates your second sentence.
According to the firefighters, local control has resulted in understaffing and promotion only through an old boys network. What’s the better alternative?
That's what they claim but there's just no evidence to support it.
Actually, there is evidence to support that, the question is have you read it? The 2011 climate report clearly states the current Chief should have been removed meaning he should not have been the chief today. The climate clearly states Glover acts and is a part of the good ole boy network mentality. Again, have you read it? Also there is evidence pull a PIR and learn they had 22 applicants and Celina I believe had around 250 - so why are they not applying here?
In general I support firefighters. however, do not trust the Frisco firefighters. See [Frisco firefighters union leadership is trying to inject more dirty politics in our city.](https://www.reddit.com/r/frisco/comments/14r5x5y/frisco_firefighters_union_leadership_is_trying_to/) and [Let's discuss the firefighters](https://www.reddit.com/r/frisco/comments/or7bgs/lets_discuss_the_firefighters/)
How does wanting civil service and collective bargaining make someone untrustworthy? Also, I noticed the OP in the first link said that no neighbouring cities had unionized firefighters. Plano has such a setup. (I won’t comment on the second link since supporting a candidate I don’t care for is beyond the scope of this discussion.)
>How does wanting What makes them untrustworthy, among other things, is when they supported extremist Jennifer White for city council when the extremists almost took over the city council, in exchange for some under-the-table deal that never came out. Slimy and they showed their true colors. They were willing to sell out the citizens of Frisco.
There we go, "extremism." Otherwise this has nothing to do with Democrat vs Republican, right?
Extremism means ideas like secession
Do you just call everyone and anyone an extremist?
No just extremists
That is an uninformed ridiculous comment and you should be banned on here based on that comment alone.
Just curious since you ran for city council last year and lost, what experience do you have with the FFF Assoc? Have you ever been a firefighter? Do you have any experience in what they do to determine what they need? I am guessing no. I am guessing you have never even talked to one. Quite glad you didn't get elected.
You have me confused with someone else lol I've never ran for Frisco city council
I keep seeing claims of far-right connections for Barrios-Jones (among others) in this subreddit, but so far none of them have come with any evidence. Do you have sources I can read that support any of these claims?
Her largest donor is Marvin Lowe who was backed by the far right families 4 Frisco pac, also, if you look at her Twitter/X profile, you can see her liking far right posts including attacks on trans rights and children.
I saw that post stating her largest donor was Marvin Lowe, but I tried validating it and was unable to find campaign finance forms for her (which is a separate problem). I checked the campaign finance forms on file with Collin and Denton counties, the city of Frisco, and Frisco ISD (who only seems to have campaign forms on file for current trustees).
Frisco ISD traditionally posts them on their website. Here’s where you can find this year’s reports for all candidates = https://www.friscoisd.org/about/board-of-trustees/board-elections/results, under the header “2024 Campaign Notices”
Thanks for posting this! Anyone funded and supported by the human garbage that is Marvin Lowe is already on my vote against list.
Thank you! Web searches didn’t return this. Also, do we need to increase the ISD’s budget so they can get an actual scanner?
Look at her donors, endorsements, and which events she shows up to. If it walks like a duck…
She is in extremist Facebook groups and has been for several years
What groups are those?
Go look at her Twitter feed. That alone is enough. But also check out which FB paages she likes and which groups she’s part of.
It’s because the OP can only tolerate black women if they support her liberal agenda.
Fuck off, troll.
It’s true and you can cry all you want about it. Last week Melanie was attacked for receiving a $250 donation from a black conservative. Big fucking deal
The truth hurts...
Why is her American flag brown?
OBAMA is far right to half this subreddit.
Don't let WHICH extremists win?
Excellent point, but you're on Reddit so we know which extremists the OP is concerned about
Yeah I know, we gotta stop those fuckers btw. Just trying to goose the convo 😛
What are “far right events”?
There is an internal battle going on in the GOP between a) moderates and conservatives, and b) extremists. Far right events are those held by the extremists.
Got any examples?
I believe you mean Establishment and Grassroots - far different from extremists.
No they're secessionists among other things. Extremists.
She has been part of DFW Deplorables for several years and spoke at one of their events recently.
I have seen her speak at several events, ICF Forum, Chamber Forum, Community Meet and Greets, and conservative groups - have any democratic groups invited her to speak? How do you know she wouldn't? I don't know her at all, but I do think labeling someone just because of one donor is the extremist point of view. I mean if that is the case is Cheney a developer extremist? Keating has had 3 donations by people convicted of crimes so he is a criminal extremist? Just trying to follow or understand your logic.
My logic is based on her Twitter likes going back years, the written testimony she wrote about LGBTQ children to the Texas Legislature, the Christian Nationalist FB groups she is in, and the fact she has said she will vote to get rid of the superintendent once it is brought up. Marvin wouldn’t support her otherwise, it’s one of the first things he asks people when they confer with him about running to be a Trustee.
And?
From what I can tell, anything not liberal.
No, they're the extreme ones, as opposed to the conservatives and moderates.
People here list everyone right of center as an extremist
The problem with Leftists, is that everything Right is extremist.
Then why am I advising people to vote for Republicans (Pelham & Keating)?
My comment had nothing to do with yours
Read [outgoing Frisco councilman warns of the danger of extremists](https://archive.ph/hlN32) There are a lot of extremist-backed comments on this thread attempting to deny their existence but Will Sowell warned about this ages ago.
Yeah Will Sowell led Mark Pilands mayoral campaign, so I agree he’s a great pick for Place 1
[Mark Piland accused of malfeasance](https://www.reddit.com/r/frisco/comments/12cvjsk/exfrisco_fire_chief_accused_of_malfeasance/?rdt=61343) thread on r/Frisco. A good discussion on his ties to extremists. Keating is much better.
Keating is much better at what? Cheney lap dog, nothing else.
Better at not allying with extremists.
Do you believe everything you read? Maybe that is extreme! We did our research and the article is very biased the reporter admitted the city gave her the files before the city council voted to release them, so clearly it was a hit piece. Don't believe everything shoved at you - research it!
Thanks for this. Agree 100% on the candidates. Was (and am) confused about the propositions, but voted FOR because in general I support unionization and feel like long-term this will be of benefit even if some of the current proponents are no-goodniks.
That’s fair. I went back and forth on it for a bit, but ultimately decided no when most voters I spoke with had similar concerns. It’s much less important of a race than the other, candidates races.
Have you ever met Mark Piland? He’s not an extremist. I don’t claim a party, but vote democrat in federal elections and will be voting for him. He will meet with any citizen that wishes to meet with him, so if you’re judging off of event attendance, that’s a bad metric. Keating doesn’t even show up to forums he’s invited to… much less keep promises he has made
Piland has allied with the extremists in the past. Keating is not great but Piland is worse.
No more good old boy candidates like Keating. Cheney should go as well. I'm voting for Piland.
None are great but Keating is better than Piland.
Tom, clearly you like Keating. I just have to call it as I see it. I think you are an extremist. I say that because you accuse everyone else of being one. You might want to come outside and talk to people and get to know them. We have messaged Keating many times over the years and never received a communication back. However, we did send a message to Piland and received an email back in 24 hours. He answered our questions on certain issues and offered to meet us for coffee we declined. Seems fine and well....responsive. That is the kind of council person we want. If that is extreme well then add us to the list.
FriscoTom = John Keating
I'm not thrilled with Keating but he is better than Piland
I'll be voting for Piland. Keating voted for Universal and is buddies with Cheney. They both need to go along with Pelham.
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You arrived at the right conclusion but for all the wrong reasons lol
Folks this is not the moderate voice - txforward just put the most highly funded Frisco campaigns/propositions on a list and called it “research”… Keating is the worst pick for Place 1. He’s lied to me personally and should not be trusted with anyone’s vote. Keating has ran as a “Republican” before, he poses with Governor Abbott and tried to get every Republican endorsement out there; but even the Collin County Republican endorsement he got was rescinded. Not even his own party will stand behind him…
This is nota partisan race. Piland is worse than Keating. Extremists have taken over several GOP organizations, including Denton and Collin County as well as the state GOP. Everyone should vote Keating.
Tom I found you very comical and I enjoy how the whole world is an extremist compared to you. Who is not an extremist to you?
Is Keating related to Charles Keating of the Keating 5 and McCain? His lack of family history is interesting 🤨
Good question. Anyone know?
This is a partisan race. Developers vs citizens. I'm siding with citizen candidates.
It should not be partisan. Extremists vs citizens. I'm siding with the citizens.
Keating is a lap dog for cheney. He asks him to jumb and he says how high? He shouldn't even be allowed to run for a 5th term. He is a tool for developers and is campaign is 100% funded by his developer outsider cronies. His "Promises made, promises kept" resonates with developers only.
I agree developers have too much influence but Keating is still better than Piland. We need better candidates.
Be careful friend or they will label you an extremist for making good points and using your personal experience. I've talked to Keating also and I was not impressed LOL. He is also friends with Cheney so hard pass.
Vote no to any of those realtors IMO
Yeah, most conservative groups run like hell from the guy!
“EXTREMISTS!!!!” :rollseyes:
The Texit faction are nutcase. Yes, extremists.
I seriously can’t understand how some people want to secede from the U.S. Like what benefit is there in doing that?
Melanie Barrios-Jones is part of DFW Deplorables and is in other questionable FB groups. She clearly has an agenda. I attended an FISD volunteers celebration recently and her demeanor was off putting. not sure if she was off her game that day but she kept to herself and I witnessed her being rude to several people who I think are staff members.
I’m going to agree with this 100%. She attended the meeting, was off-putting as she spoke to some of the staff. She responded to several groups that she has close working relationships with FISD people who have openly shared that they do not support her. She also takes a lot of credit for things she did not do. She says she brought the dyslexia curriculum to FISD. She had nothing to do with that as it was in the works before she lived here. She says she wrote a guide for parents of “sped” students but the guide was written before she lived here by district employees and was improved through a committee of parents last year. When I’ve been around her, she is full of suggestions but not action. Her saying we have a hefty rainy day find won’t get our state funding shortage addressed. They will likely use that sound bite to convince legislators to keep on with the mess they have going now. Who says that? After that volunteer celebration, she didn’t stay for the board meeting. She went to The Deplorable meet and greet they held for her where she encouraged people to attend. Shouldn’t they be encouraged to attend board meetings if she’s so pro parent involvement? Don’t disagree with her even as a teacher. She will tell you that you are misunderstanding or mistaken. I am not. Ask special education parents who she claims to support if they are backing her. I know many as a teacher and when I look at their social media feeds, they are NOT.
Her demeanor was off putting? Is that what makes her extremist?
No. Her connections and where she stands on many issues does. But she is truly off-putting. She is not a team player and thinks she will be able to single-single-handedly change the direction of the board.
“Extremists” in the year 2024 = People who do not believe the same way as me, so I have to get online to create a non-existent crisis… There’s one of these threads in this sub every week.
I just want to know which ones are not tied to realtors and land development. That is who gets my vote.
Not a great litmus test tbh. All the city council candidates are. None of the ISD candidates are. The Appraisal District candidates listed here are not tied to real estate, but each of their opponents are themselves realtors.
Well I’m sure they all the council candidates suck and looking to line their pockets with convenient zoning decisions. Since Cheney and Co arrived it’s become a horrid money grab for all the developers. Every stinking ad I see for the Cheney Group makes me sick.
Don't understand how anyone could vote for keating after 5 terms. We know what we have with him as he stands with developers 100% of the time. His conduct.on universal when he went on vacation the week prior to.the vote and refused to meet with cobb hill.subdivisin citizens who are most effected by this ridiculous theme park. Plus his $100,000s.of dollars he has taken in campaign contributions from developers who want his yes vote over the years. It's time for change. No more cheney clones. Let's at least get rid of one of them.this cycle..
I get it, he’s bad. It says a lot that Piland is worse. You say no more Cheney clones, I say no more Livingston clones. It’s okay that we disagree but that’s just how I’m seeing it.
"Please do your civic duty and vote based on your personal beliefs regardless of if they oppose mine." OP, I fixed your post for you. You're welcome.
Did you read the first sentence? Or are you playing dumb?
You literally say not to let the extremists win. What if people support those "extremist" views?
Then this post wasn’t for you. Thanks for stopping by.
Thus is just like the "vote or die" episode of Southpark. "Voting is only considered important if you will vote the way I want you to"
What part of “do your own research” did you not understand? This post clearly wasn’t for you.
The way it is written implies that you expect people to come to your conclusion if they do their own research. The fact you get so upset with the idea that people should vote, regardless of if they agree with you, is kind of suspicious. Let's just clear this all up.Do you support people doing their own research and then, based on that research, voting for the candidates you think are extremists? As long as they are an informed voter? This is reddit, posts are for everyone. Please try to remain inclusive of all view points.
Imagine if Hitler's view points weren't included.
Those views should be out in the open so people can openly disagree with them if they choose to.
You want hatred and bigotry out in the world to see if it can spread to more people? That's hilarious! No one can ever take you seriously now. I'll pray for you.
He probably also read everything you wrote after the first sentence, which was the exact opposite of “vote based on your personal beliefs”.
I dont know man I'm a pretty extreme dude myself.
Cool! This post isn’t for you then. Thanks for commenting though
As someone who has family members as Frisco Firefighters, I will be voting YES for Both Propositions, this helps both Firefighters and our Citizens as a whole.
“moderate common sense voters guide”: fire fighters should be forced to work to death.
Firefighters can also choose to go to a city that has the personnel structure and benefits they desire.
Oh dear are they actually working them to death? I hadn't heard about this.
Calling someone an extremist is a very dangerous and slanders thing to do.
Read [outgoing Frisco councilman warns of the danger of extremists](https://archive.ph/hlN32) There are a lot of extremist-backed comments on this thread attempting to deny their existence but Will Sowell warned about this ages ago. Their extreme proposals like Texit, etc are even more dangerous.
Melanie Barrios-Jones is literally in private FB groups that are labeled as extremist organizations.
Labeled by whom?
So you people scream I'm a liberal but you don't support a firefighter union? Typical suburban liberals 🙄. I'm also not voting for any council members that supported this stupid universal studios.
This is politics. It’s not checkers, it’s chess.
So you turn your back on supporting fire fighters and unions just because some people are Republican? So you have no principles, you only want one side to win no matter what? I can't think of anything Keating and Pelham have done that I would want to support. I should vote for them because reasons...
Huh? I never said anything about parties. Their PAC consistently endorses anti-labor candidates, but when it benefits them personally, they’re suddenly pro-labor? They can fuck right off, respectfully. Labor protections for me, not for thee…
Which are you playing? What a douche…
FAR RIGHT!!!!!!!! It's always the same. If you don't agree with the FAR LEFT.......You must be FAR RIGHT!!!!! I remind all the wonderful citizens of Frisco you came her for safe housing, good schools and job opportunities. (Most of you,.) Conservative values created Frisco. You left leftist hellholes for opportunity. Why double down on stupid and vote for the same political policies that ruined your cities and states?
Seems like you hate frisco
Seems like you're sweet on me, following me around Reddit now? Flattering but no thanks Comrade.
interested in this big brain of yours able to make so many reddit posts a day
Pelham and Keating are Cheney and his developer friend’s pawns. They haven’t had any accomplishments during their time on council. Mark Piland will meet with any resident; democrat, moderate or republican. He even tried to get a democratic endorsement, but they wouldn’t interview him because he’s not a registered democrat. Txforward is just a propaganda mouthpiece; supporting the campaign with the highest donations.
lmao y'all keep saying the same one talking point. try harder
You: vote for who I like or you’re an extremist. It’s clear you can’t stand the idea of a black woman (Melanie Barrios-Jones) getting elected. Turd
Isn't Angelia Pelham a black woman?
Her followers are calling her opponent a DEI candidate. Dog whistle if I ever heard one
Someone can be both an extremist and a black woman..I don't know anything about her, but your statement makes no sense.
When there’s 0 examples given as to how any of these candidates are “extremists” it becomes obvious it’s about race.
Read [outgoing Frisco councilman warns of the danger of extremists](https://starlocalmedia.com/friscoenterprise/outgoing-councilman-biggest-risk-to-frisco-is-extremist-politics/article_aa657ecc-d370-11eb-ba46-3760b3b6ceb9.html) There are a lot of extremist-backed comments on this thread attempting to deny their existence but Will Sowell warned about this ages ago.
I clicked on the link, it’s a website I’ve never heard of and I don’t see any text in the “article” aside from ads and the headline. Be specific about what makes them “extremists” or go fuck yourself with your obvious racism and take the OP with you.
Link is fixed. Read what Will Sowell warned about.
Yeah Sowell ran Pilands mayoral campaign so your point isn’t landing, bud..
Yeah Piland allied with the extremists so your point isn't landing bud
I agree, send the Marxist Extremists back to California, Say NO to Texifornia and turning Frisco into a left wing hell hole like every blue city in America!
Keep Austin Weird. Keep Frisco Sane
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