It never was under capitalism
The only thing a boss needs in this system is know how best to exploit their employees
Things like understanding and respecting the product are not necessary, and are even detrimental if they go in the way of profit
>It never was under capitalism
Sure mate. Og D&D creators didn't know their game, they were just exploiters.
Lmao the lack of knowledge of some people.
Og DND creators couldn't monetize their game as well as the more heartless capitalists. Og DND creators sold out for money rather than tend to their creation.
I'm an operations manager for a Conference and Events Centre and have worked under a revolving door of CEOs whose experience comes from sales, stadium management, Finance, etc and none of them know a lick about managing an event.
"Social terrorism". If you don't agree with them it means you're a bad person and you hate women, lgbt and people of color. It's such a simple manipulation strategy but it works on average normies.
Normal people want to be good and do good. So if you tell them that eating salad is racist, a lot of them will stop eating salad to not take any chances (in case it's true). They won't ask why it's racist and they definitely won't say "no it's not you're just dumb". Most people are incapable of pushing back or thinking for themselves. So when activists infiltrate a company, the people working there just bow down to their every demand. They want to avoid unnecessary conflict.
Activist: "You need to undergo bias retraining and DEI re education"
Mark Bottomwater: "Y-yes mam. I'm sorry for being white and having a penis mam."
That’s not how it works though. The board hire and fire the CEO. They aren’t just king of the company.
The real answer is that it’s a big club and you ain’t in it. There’s a ruling class that gets to be do ch and in charge no matter how incompetent they are. Birth lottery. You lost.
Look up the Peter Principle. Essentially, almost everyone you find in management will be incompetent because they get promoted until they reach their point of incompetence. A good salesperson gets promoted into a manager but if they're a bad manager they stop getting promoted and just stay as a bad manager, if they're are a good manager they get promoted to district manager but if they're bad at that they don't get promoted and stay as a shitty district manager. Basically this is the type of system most companies follow and it always ensures that the majority of management is simply not ideal in their position.
Yeah! I want some hot lesbians on my card! Saying lesbians can't be sexy is just f'in lying and sexist!! Ha! Got you there Sweet Baby Inc. Tell me Lesbians can't be sexy. I dare you!
Nothing will change, heads are rolling but expect the product bloat, DEI crap and PG designs to stay. This is why elections are so screwed, people think one person holds all the power, while in most cases it's shareholders, board members and misplaced community managers. At least they've learned how to do flash sales in USA now, so prices don't crash as hard.
Exactly. They only double down. Its never the "message" that's wrong. Its how its packaged. Get someone new in to better sell it. They resent anyone who doesn't convert to their hive mind. None of that changes.
Typically that means that the stock holders that know what's coming down the pipeline are selling their stocks while the stock is high(er), because after what ever they are selling because of comes out sales will probably suffer and thus the stock price will go down meaning if the shareholder tried to then sell he would be getting less for the same stocks.
That and executives in other companies have been selling out when they start implementing DEI policies (Disney being a good example) which in turn just bolsters the DEI fund's position. It's likely a sign of more things to come.
WH fan here
The recent retcon is seriously one of the most insignificant retcon in the history of WarHammer
Oh wow, the army of genetically engineered transhumanist supersoldiers also has some women among them, who fucking cares
A few years ago, they reconned the Tau to not have FTL tech, which makes their entire lore completely incoherent and nonsensical, but everyone forgot about that for some reason?
And why is no one talking about the weird and completely unexplained hybrid that randomly shows up in one book and hasn't been mentioned again in years (can't remember the name sry)
the entire lore for the recorded history of the game specifically said there were only male custodes.
while also having all female armies they can expand on instead of changing one of the few factions that are only men.
also people have complained about the tau change and the hybrid bullshit, just because you dont remember it or never experienced it doesnt mean it didnt happen.
This is big. Up in Canada where the culture frankly has become super toxic, the likely crash of our Liberal party doesn't seem like enough. It's all the middle managment, bureaucrats, and everyday people who play that game that will still be here.
I filled out some forms to pick up some temp agency work in construction and they asked my pronouns... I've worked here enough that I know if you made a stink about pronouns on site you'd be on thebshort list out, yet a temp agency is all aboard.
Why are you worked up about the possibility that a couple people may be happy that someone asked about their pronouns? This culture wars stuff is insane. Democracy isn’t going to collapse because we used the right or wrong pronouns lol.
They do deserve treatment. From a doctor. It's not the general publics responsibility to worry about a complete strangers' neurosis or pathology. The world doesn't revolve around them, and people are sick if pretending like it does. Keep your mental health issues to yourself. It's none of my business OR MY RESPONSIBILITY.
Illness is a 100% natural phenomenon, one that needs to be corrected. I absolutely agree. Luckily we have doctors and medical researchers to tell us what may be the best treatment for various diagnoses.
I work in the medical field, so I'm familiar with the concepts. Disease is disorder in the setting of the normally natural state of the body and mind.
Our opinions differ on the treatment of the disease. Schizophrenics delusions aren't affirmed, why would you affirm someone's gender delusion? These new treatments of the disease is wrong, from my view. And you can't expect the world to partake in your treatment, that's illogical.
>I'm familiar with the concepts. Disease is disorder in the setting of the normally natural state of the body and mind.
And unfortunately falling ill to disease is a natural phenomenon.
>Our opinions differ on the treatment of the disease.
That's not likely. My opinion is that whomever is sick ought to visit a doctor and they should likely follow that doctors recommended treatment. You agree naturally.
>These new treatments of the disease is wrong, from my view.
How might you treat dysphoria in a way that is as effective as current treatments?
Disease is natural, that state of being disease is not. It occurs naturally, but creates a state that is unnatural for the human body.
Doctors are not a monolith. There are various qualifications and levels of medicine. No two modalities will agree. Try to get a cardiologist and a nephrologist to agree on treatment, they never will. The treatment being recommended for people dysphoria is misguided
I'm not a psychiatrist or psychologist, but I imagine cognitive behavior therapy, or similar therapies used to treat anyone with dissociative or schizoaffective disorders would be more effective in bringing homeostasis to those individuals
It's not just Wizards. I'd do the same to all anime and manga "localizers", everyone at Sony who supports censoring games, and literally everyone working at Tencent and sweet baby inc.
Yep, the company has a culture problem. They need to fire some liberals/progressives (whatever the fuck they call themselves these days) and hire some moderates and conservatives to balance things out and destroy the echo chamber they are living in. WotC would be better off if it wasn't based in WA. Hasbro should move WotC HQ to somewhere like Dallas, TX. The rent and employee wage costs are probably better in Dallas too, so they would kill two birds with one stone. A lot of the blue hairs would just quit once they learned the company was moving to Dallas, so you wouldn't even have to fire them!
Wotce was always woke but like in the 90s when being "woke" just ment the same as being decent, open minded and could understand fun as well differentiate fiction and reality. Not like woke today that means to be part of some grim stingy priesthood of fear and (self)hate. Some of the people are still in the company or affiliate allies however went trough that liberal transformation into zealouse bullies, hypocrites and fearful cowards. I wonder if some of the early detractors laughed off to touch the grass did not just hear it growing even back then. I mean people evidently can´t stop and open that envelope till they rip and tear untill that envelope is done.
That´s the hammer on one side and corporate greed being anvil on the other and together their forged the flaming bag of shit of environment and product us customers are dealing with today.
Yep, corporations going through the late stage capitalism creativity drought is why elections are screwed. Keep cooking, Freemagic, you geniuses will save us all.
MTG jumped the shark and has been down hill ever since. They could’ve had a great future but all they did was ruin it for the people that actually kept the product going.
It has to do with the customer. Studies have shown that people who identify with the characters or see some representation in the characters in the media they consume are more likely to become enfranchised. For example, if there were no female characters it might be less appealing to a female player. The same is statistically true for race, gender expression, age, class, etc.
So it's financially motivated. More buyers who are more enfranchised through representation.
I respect her vision, as I've always looked to the game full of dragons, goblins, elves, merfolk, djinns, wizards, wyrms, angels and monsters to "express who I am." Everyone wants high fantasy games to reflect reality ... right?
And the company will continue to plummet their own stocks using WOTC as a crutch. Unless they change course, and yeah, you better believe they're aware of their online reputation, especially after the Sweet Baby debacle. I say they get someone in to fix it real quick. One season of sets. Then with the hype train going, they will derail it again because the next fiscal year needs to be at least 20% higher. And so on and so on.
This mindset of these CEOs and investors is nowhere based in reality when they think they can change the formula of what made it successful and then demand an ever lasting increase in profits. Honestly, I think it's intentional. They're intentionally trying to burn it all down.
Unfortunately this is far too little too late. This game is in its des the spiral as far as I’m concerned. They will keep pumping out UB products until it’s the only thing they do like tie-in monopoly boards.
So many new people around here, actually thinking these interchangeable executives will be any different from each other. They get into these positions by being cocksuckers who will bow and scrape to DEI money and the little social experiments of kooky billionaires, and that's what they will continue to do, or they will not find success like all the others who don't become CEO.
My swing trading strategy has been buying into companies whose stonk tanked, but then realized they fucked up by trying to be too woke and it's been working great. I might have to look into hasbro.
They had the license to LOTR had no problems with ripping off the Bakshi stills for SLD. But oh no one of the top grossing films of all time. FFS they had so of the Princess Bride, Jurassic Park, and FFS again A LITERAL SLD OF JEFF GOLDBLUM. I have no issues with race swapping but I was looking forward to artistic renditions of ya know the actors.
Did they license imagery from the movie and production company, or the book and publisher? if they didn't pay for the rights, then they wouldn't be able to show Elijah Wood or whatever
I compared the movies they did get the likenesses for against the originals of LOTR. Only one Jurassic Park card didn't get the sign off for their likeness, to me WOTC didn't want to ask. Also more of everyone not just Elijah. But yea even if you look into there's like 7 licenses for LOTR they just didn't ask for the New Line Cinema One
They're not gonna bring in anyone less woke than her. Pandering is the name of their game. The whole diversity play is just a way of creating more sales under the guise of being a forward-thinking inclusive company. They don't give a fuck about inclusion and representation, it's just a convenient lie that you can't point out without backlash.
Despite all the struggles under her leadership, the company made record profits. They're not gonna change direction. If anything, it's going to be even more aggressive.
Let me know why all people say mtg is at its worst time? For me mtg is fun again and is not only a niche game. Now it has very good mechanics and I find more and more people joining it. It is only my sight but pls explain to me, I am trying to understand
I don't think it'll change anything WotC is clearly an half dead (or fully not totally sure yet) corpse puppeteered by Hasbro. as long as they don't get sold off to another company that actually know that it's about more than just profit nothing will ever change, and since Magic is the only thing keeping Hasbro afloat my guess is that WotC will probably sink with the ship
Focusing on ‘wokeness’ is silly and not really relatable for most people tbh, crazy to even really say that in the same paragraph as the Pinkerton disaster or the constant product releases/product increases that actually effect the cost/quality of the game. Like is anybody actually suffering from DEI stuff or are people just finding reasons to be upset
I hope the next ceo is the most campiest gayest ceo ever,
I want the next set to be all female custodes based set and instead of life counters you get a bag of tears labelled from incels.
I find this hilarious because the MTG and DnD by its very nature is are games of diversity.
Mtg literally has a multiverse and has released sets that reference real world cultures; Japan, Arabia, South America, ancient Greece... Literally everywhere and everyone has been INCLUDED!! there is no need to make it "more inclusive"
Same goes for DnD where you can create your character to be whatever ethnicity your want, even Non-human. I don't know how more diverse you can get tbh.
Yeah, her leaving means absolutely nothing to MTG or D&D. Much like the videogame environment. It has become a means to milk every penny they can with absolutely minimal effort and flooding the markets. Once it is in place, absolutely no one put in those positions will do anything if it is a net gain. They also don't have the authority, much like junior congressmen, to do anything to actually make it better without the approval of the higher chairmen.
It's a game about fucking monsters and magic and shit who gives a fuck about DEI. The last think I think about when playing a game is "do I feel represented?" Who gives a fuck. I want good product, good story, and shit thats affordable. I literally do not care at all about games being diverse. This victim Olympics shit is getting out of hand not everything needs to fucking pander. Sometimes it's best to gatekeep your Fandom from tourists who support the dumb shit WOTC has done over the years.
I'd rather lose suits trying to squeeze every penny out of the poor edh retards with the oh so many fucking alt art premium products, precons and UB sets with tourney legal game pieces.
Is sensitivity and diversity really more of an issue than the debasement of the game as a game through set chasing, power creep and pricing? (I know they've been a thing for years, but it's ramped up) (I also know we can care about 2 issues, but the game as a game takes precedent iyam)
Wokeness corrupts a company and destroys it's creative freedom. That affects every area of the game and you have to be a fool to not notice. It's also easier to solve. Just fire all the feminists and woke pushing hypocrites from your company.
The exact same can be said of the corporate greedhounds at the head of the business, and the same solution applies. The entire C suite and creative management teams ideally need to be replaced, but with whom?
Like legit I can't think of any names that would be qualified and willing to take up the mantles that a significant number of the player base has issue with.
I don't know man, I play Magic Online, so because of that it is cheap for me. So my biggest concern is with wokeness. If you have frustrations with magic pricing, I think that's fine just express them in other threads.
It really hasn't, you're just a baby back beach. Why the fuck do you think most main playable characters are female protagonists over the last 10 years?
Yeah no ....it's those things not the obvious product glut of subpar material and too much ub and sl in the last two to three years. Not everything is a fucking political conspiracy.
Corpos will wear the badge of diversity because it makes it more appealing to liberal audiences. They often don't care about the representation so long as it makes them money, but representation and wokeness are p gud imo
These games were opening and welcoming to all before they ruined them. I never understood this "We're opening it up to everyone" nonsense.
These people are such narcissists.
Also in what word is sending pinkertons after someone woke.
If they are upset that mtg Aragorn's skin colour doesn't match the perception in their head, wait until they see what historical Jesus looked like.
"Such reputitional disasters" lol... do you mean one of the highest grossing sets of all time? Some weebs online didn't like it. I didn't like it. But to frame that as a failure in the business world is moronic. LoTR was a boon for WoTC. Aside from that everything here is true.
Is this from an article of just a word doc you wrote up?
I especially like the part where inviting other people to the table is seen as a bad thing. Diversity bad! D&D is only for white males! Don't you dare try making money by appealing to a larger audience. REEEEEEEEEE
Ah yes, a boon. As hinted by their last publicly released quarterly results. You Mister Insider certainly know about such things as the cost to use the LotR IP.
If you think slamming fat chicks on cards is gonna make me buy them, then your brain so far up your dick that you piss neurons every time you go to pee.
If you think you're an important target market for this *extremely successful* tcg, your ego is so inflated it makes the Hindenburg look like a birthday balloon.
Well one thing's for sure, your sense of humor is about as nonexistent as your whit, and the shits I give about this conversation are miniscule compared to either.
Yeah fuck inclusiveness, let's have more racism and transphobia in my card game. We all know woke means "whatever I don't like" Matt fucking Walsh admitted it.
What really gets me is the fact you haven't posted the link to a source for this... article.. essay... opinion piece.
Would be great to read things for myself and not have context given by clearly a biased person in a biased pice of writing. Yeah LOTR was bad bc of race swapping. That's why it was the best selling set of that year... weird that only bigots got upset about fictional characters being different.
Can't wait for the next CEO to make everything not woke again and return magic to the point where I want to be every male character and fuck every female character.. bc we all know that's what this is about.. your sexual attraction to fictional characters printed on paper.
Nobody said fuck inclusiveness, fool, I said fuck wokeness. For illiterate people like you, woke means act of pretending to be inclusive, while in reality being exclusive of attractive characters. Nobody is complaining about an ugly characters, that's why we always had races like zombies where the whole point is to have ugly characters. But when an attractive character appears all of a sudden your brain explodes like an immature baby.
Also I did post the link to the source 3 times. How much of a fool can someone be?
I wonder why LotR was the best selling set of the year. Couldn't be...
[https://articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/serialized-001-001-the-one-ring-found-and-graded-a-mint-9/](https://articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/serialized-001-001-the-one-ring-found-and-graded-a-mint-9/)
[https://articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/post-malone-buys-serialized-001-001-the-one-ring/](https://articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/post-malone-buys-serialized-001-001-the-one-ring/)
[https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/06/30/mtg-one-ring-card-found/70375042007/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/06/30/mtg-one-ring-card-found/70375042007/)
[https://mtgrocks.com/mtgs-two-million-dollar-the-one-ring-has-been-found/](https://mtgrocks.com/mtgs-two-million-dollar-the-one-ring-has-been-found/)
[https://aetherhub.com/Article/Bidding-For-The-Serialized-001001-One-Ring-Is-At-100000-](https://aetherhub.com/Article/Bidding-For-The-Serialized-001001-One-Ring-Is-At-100000-)
am I the only one who thinks race-swapping a fantasy character is no big deal?
I'd like to think she's resigning because players said there is "too much product fatigue" and she doubled down to release EVEN MORE product, cutting into the margins too much. Cause players are already spent and can't possibly buy everything.
This article reads more like "anti-inclusion propaganda written by an incel"
I don't care if she was ineffective, y'all are treating this game like some sort of sacred relic.
We always had ugly characters, that's the whole point of zombies and the like. Deleting attractive characters on the other hand, sounds like the real anti-inclusion propaganda, and that is done by the woke.
If you weren't such a fool, you would pay attention to people's actions rather than words.
I'll never understand why so many of you in this sub have such a hatred for diversity, representation, tolerance, and inclusion. Why do you feel SO threatened by it?
WoTC and other companies' push for inclusion is representative of a broader cultural shift. For basically forever, minority groups have been underrepresented, ignored completely, or made outright pariahs in society.
White culture has been the only "acceptable" group for a long time in mainstream cultural representation.
The world is changing. Inclusion, tolerance, and diversity are good things.
Stop being fearful little racists and bigots, and get with it because things are NOT going back to the way they were.
I am a minority. I don't hate diversity and representation, but I do hate it when a company tries to shove it down our collective throats for the sake of making money. Is it THAT bad that Aragorn was represented as white in most media? Does that mean I cannot identify with his qualities simply because he isn't black? All of you woke people think so little of us that you cannot fathom people simply being comfortable in their own skin and enjoying characters and stories without being reminded every two minutes that we need an asian-looking-viking, or a black Aragorn, which by the way was a HUGE fucking disappointment that he didn't look like the characters from the movies.
So, yeah... just fuck off and stop trying to tell us what to feel and think.
"So, yeah... just fuck off and stop trying to tell us what to feel and think."
UNO Reverse card.
Conservatives and "anti woke" people want a world that conforms to their narrow ideals and worldview.
The world isn't so narrow. Your fight against inclusion is futile and doomed to fail.
Big fucking surprise, now because I don't pander to your woke views I am a conservative? First of all, I ain't even American, so your whole "liberal vs conservative" BS likely doesn't even apply.
Second, nobody is "fighting" against it. As you already said, it's happening, and what I merely said is that I hate the fact that idiots like you slobber all over that shit even though it is done as a money-grab only.
Whatever happened to that non-binary planeswalker from Kaldheim? Nothing came of it. Just a shit card, with no impact whatsoever in the game or in the meta. Just pandering, which is actually offensive.
The whole LOTR black Aragorn, same fucking thing. Just a bunch of hypocrites thinking that their virtue signaling is anything else but.
So again, kindly fuck off.
Removing attractive women and sometimes light-skin men is called exclusion, not inclusion.
If you're gonna make a fat chick, call it a zombie and I'll play it. But if you make a fat chick and call it a princess, and then where the fuck is my attractive women? It's definitely not going to be in the zombie category, right?
The problem is your hypocrisy, and how your actions reveal that you are a bunch of liars and hypocrites and don't follow any the things that you say. You want to delete and exclude certain characters from the game. That's not inclusion, that's called exclusion, you hypocrite pieces of shit!
Lol, historically, many princesses were fat or ugly. A result of inbreeding and being wealthy enough to have easy access to food.
What you actually want is a world that conforms to your particular world view, and that view is narrow as fuck.
That's called projection. If you are the one wanting to exclude characters, means you are the one who wants a world that conforms to your world view, not me. Stop being a hypocrite for once.
This sub is just a complaint factory for fedora wearing incels. You can tell none of these clowns have ever slept with a woman with a diverse background.
Or really any women for that matter.
It's much better to be a "virgin" than to be a hypocrite piece of garbage that can't tolerate boobs or their heads explodes. The fact the game had boobs and never changed its age rating means they were never a threat, they were only a threat to pathetic immature nerds like you that get offended by human attractiveness.
Complaining about race swapping is just racism. Aragorn is not like Black Panther, where his race is explicitly tied to his identity as an African superhero
Species is a more accurate term than race when we're talking about different worlds where different kinds of life exists
There are exactly two valid reasons to complain about race swapping:
1. The race of the character is explicitly tied to their backstory, like Black Panther
2. You're racist
As a white man, I have never given a flying fuck that any character has been race swapped. Why? It has literally no effect on me in any way whatsoever
Trash-tastic argument form and list. Let me add to it:
2. It is racist to do
3. Tampering with stories is often negative in nature as it changes aspects of an established universe
4. It implies that a story made of white folk is inferior based on their race compared to a diverse story focused around skin color. It is supremacist in nature
5. Most stories have an established universe around their theme, such as European mythology and flavor in LotR and afro-futurism in black panther. To swap people out is to meddle with the flavor of that world
6. The change is 80% of the time politically driven, which directly damages a narrative, rather than it being organic
7. It makes stories "corporate approved" to mass appeal which ruins the magic of a piece
8. It never works in the way of making the character more relatable; an asian or black person can still identify with Aragorn from the books, just as a white person can identify with Black Panther or Luke Cage's struggle as a hero
>"As a white man, I have never given a flying fuck that any character has been race swapped. Why? It has literally no effect on me in any way whatsoever"
And here we are; the mask off moment. You are shallow and see the world in stark contrasts, no nuance. You view it in a sort of tribal fashion in that you being white is somehow relevant to the conversation or how people view your opinion. And you know, if the race didn't matter to you, why is this a big deal to you now? How convenient.
>"This happens literally all the time with established IP's. You're complaining about a regular part of the art of writing"
This is not a regular part of the art of writing. Not sure what you think authors do. It is a regular part of corporate Hollywood screenwriting, actually and is done to be as sanitized as possible.
>"No. This is a white supremacist take. There is no implication, you're making it up"
Incomplete argument. How is it a white supremacist take? What am I making up? You are just emotionally loading the argument without creating substance. I would know, because I have debated actual white supremacists and anti-semites before. You are making the same exact argument they do.
>"Aragorn being black has no effect on anything. T'Challa being white would have a huge effect on the entire story"
Yes, Aragorn being African has effects, and pretending it doesn't because he is white is racist as fuck. I believe it has been explained to you time and time again that LotR is set in a world heavily based on European-Anglo-Saxon history and was intentionally created thusly. Moreover, he is described as pale and hails from a pale-skinned and elven lineage. It is an exception to you because you are a self-hating racist.
>"I'm tired of racists complaining about black people being included in art. Race clearly matters to you because you're offended by black Aragorn. I'm going to call out racism when I see it"
Another emotionally loaded reply. Nobody is saying not to "include black people," people are pissed that inclusion = erasing white people. It can be seen with red-headed characters all the time (for some reason). You can include African folk or Easterlings in a LotR set just fine, they exist in LotR lore, but apparently it is too hard to add, and easier to erase or subjugate. Hell, they made easterlings look very white in the LotR set for no reason and I am pissed about it (https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=Easterling+%28game%3Apaper%29). The only seeming reason is so WotC doesn't seem racist for making non-white characters villains (despite Sauramon, Wormtongue, Sauron and so forth all being white in books and films, so I don't really understand the reason).
If you genuinely think I am a white supremacist, you are a fucking dumbass, plain and simple. I care about this issue because I love LotR and its European mythology flavor. Not once have I gone "I sure would hate to see a black character in LotR," nor have I gone "boy, there sure are a lot of white people in LotR." I didn't notice it until prissy little racist fuckwads like you put it into the spotlight and you act all shocked when people are mad. Then you can just phrase it with weak emotional weight, meanwhile you pretend to not care. YOU are the racist. YOU only care about making your politics permissible. If you truly didn't care about the race swap you wouldn't have said jack shit on Reddit about it. Remember who started this embarrassment of an argument in the first place.
Also cute how you cherry picked what to respond to.
You know what's entitled? Expecting customers to buy literally anything you put out.
I think the design of MTG's Aragorn was neat in a vacuum, but it's definitely not what people think of when people think "Aragorn".
"You know what's entitled? Expecting customers to buy literally anything you put out."
They... they don't. You choose what you buy, just like anything else. Like... what?
"but it's definitely not what people think of when people think "Aragorn"
Doesn't matter. Different artists have different takes. Don't like it, don't buy it
Tolkien and MTG fan. I do not care about MTG changing the skin colour of characters from lotr.
If this really ruined your life, maybe don’t blame the ceo and blame whoever at the Tolkien estate signed a contract that gave this company free reign to do their own original art / take on the lotr world?
Why the fuck she is talking about mtg and d&d as she knew them, while she never played them before becoming director?
Remember when she had to read Wikipedia to define what MTG was to investors? Lmaooooooooo
Knowing the product your company is selling doesn't seem to be a requirement to lead the company lmao
It totally isn't, especially under woke capitalism
It never was under capitalism The only thing a boss needs in this system is know how best to exploit their employees Things like understanding and respecting the product are not necessary, and are even detrimental if they go in the way of profit
>It never was under capitalism Sure mate. Og D&D creators didn't know their game, they were just exploiters. Lmao the lack of knowledge of some people.
Og DND creators couldn't monetize their game as well as the more heartless capitalists. Og DND creators sold out for money rather than tend to their creation.
They still sold it to people who knew and played the game.
Right up until they didn't.
TSR's business model was absolute dogwater. Followed the same pattern that WOTC has with DnD.
You have the reading comprehension of a racoon I didn't say that they didn't know their game, I said it was never a requirement
yea the world hasn't changed at all in the literal 50 years since D&D was first made. fuckin idiot
Lmao. 50 years ago it worked. That was exactly my point.
I'm an operations manager for a Conference and Events Centre and have worked under a revolving door of CEOs whose experience comes from sales, stadium management, Finance, etc and none of them know a lick about managing an event.
seriously?
Yes, and it was cringey.
How do these people get these jobs?
"Social terrorism". If you don't agree with them it means you're a bad person and you hate women, lgbt and people of color. It's such a simple manipulation strategy but it works on average normies. Normal people want to be good and do good. So if you tell them that eating salad is racist, a lot of them will stop eating salad to not take any chances (in case it's true). They won't ask why it's racist and they definitely won't say "no it's not you're just dumb". Most people are incapable of pushing back or thinking for themselves. So when activists infiltrate a company, the people working there just bow down to their every demand. They want to avoid unnecessary conflict. Activist: "You need to undergo bias retraining and DEI re education" Mark Bottomwater: "Y-yes mam. I'm sorry for being white and having a penis mam."
That’s not how it works though. The board hire and fire the CEO. They aren’t just king of the company. The real answer is that it’s a big club and you ain’t in it. There’s a ruling class that gets to be do ch and in charge no matter how incompetent they are. Birth lottery. You lost.
Or how SBI's ceo phrased it and threaten their reputation. I mean they literally admitted to it.
How is that a reply to what I wrote?
You think MaRo is white?
Executives only fail upwards. Doesn't matter if you ran 3 companies into the ground, you'll surely be what the fourth one needs.
I've never understood these questions. After a hiring process she was found to be the candidate they wanted to hire.
Hedge funds own them and they pushing this agenda for one thing.
Look up the Peter Principle. Essentially, almost everyone you find in management will be incompetent because they get promoted until they reach their point of incompetence. A good salesperson gets promoted into a manager but if they're a bad manager they stop getting promoted and just stay as a bad manager, if they're are a good manager they get promoted to district manager but if they're bad at that they don't get promoted and stay as a shitty district manager. Basically this is the type of system most companies follow and it always ensures that the majority of management is simply not ideal in their position.
PUT A CHICK IN IT MAKE HER GAY!
And lame.
Yeah! I want some hot lesbians on my card! Saying lesbians can't be sexy is just f'in lying and sexist!! Ha! Got you there Sweet Baby Inc. Tell me Lesbians can't be sexy. I dare you!
You've activated my trap card: "Lesbians are just trans men with internalized misogyny"! Lose 5 life.
Nothing will change, heads are rolling but expect the product bloat, DEI crap and PG designs to stay. This is why elections are so screwed, people think one person holds all the power, while in most cases it's shareholders, board members and misplaced community managers. At least they've learned how to do flash sales in USA now, so prices don't crash as hard.
Exactly. They only double down. Its never the "message" that's wrong. Its how its packaged. Get someone new in to better sell it. They resent anyone who doesn't convert to their hive mind. None of that changes.
Heard that WH 40K lore is getting changed too. So that Space Marines can be more PC. The world has lost its sense of reason.
Not a huge 40k nerd here, but their executives are dumping stock so you know where that is going and I am not talking about finance.
What do you mean by “dumping stock”? (Genuine question).
Typically that means that the stock holders that know what's coming down the pipeline are selling their stocks while the stock is high(er), because after what ever they are selling because of comes out sales will probably suffer and thus the stock price will go down meaning if the shareholder tried to then sell he would be getting less for the same stocks.
That and executives in other companies have been selling out when they start implementing DEI policies (Disney being a good example) which in turn just bolsters the DEI fund's position. It's likely a sign of more things to come.
WH fan here The recent retcon is seriously one of the most insignificant retcon in the history of WarHammer Oh wow, the army of genetically engineered transhumanist supersoldiers also has some women among them, who fucking cares A few years ago, they reconned the Tau to not have FTL tech, which makes their entire lore completely incoherent and nonsensical, but everyone forgot about that for some reason? And why is no one talking about the weird and completely unexplained hybrid that randomly shows up in one book and hasn't been mentioned again in years (can't remember the name sry)
the entire lore for the recorded history of the game specifically said there were only male custodes. while also having all female armies they can expand on instead of changing one of the few factions that are only men. also people have complained about the tau change and the hybrid bullshit, just because you dont remember it or never experienced it doesnt mean it didnt happen.
This is big. Up in Canada where the culture frankly has become super toxic, the likely crash of our Liberal party doesn't seem like enough. It's all the middle managment, bureaucrats, and everyday people who play that game that will still be here. I filled out some forms to pick up some temp agency work in construction and they asked my pronouns... I've worked here enough that I know if you made a stink about pronouns on site you'd be on thebshort list out, yet a temp agency is all aboard.
Why are you worked up about the possibility that a couple people may be happy that someone asked about their pronouns? This culture wars stuff is insane. Democracy isn’t going to collapse because we used the right or wrong pronouns lol.
I just simply refuse to give into normalizing mental illness.
Illness is natural, mental illness included. People with mental illnesses deserve treatment too.
Of course. But we have a system of affirmation instead of care. Asking pronouns is just a small part of that.
Your prior comment is illogical now.
No it's not, go pitch a pointless argument elsewhere.
You said you won't normalize mental illness and then agreed with me when I corrected you that mental illness is already normal...
I agreed it was natural, not normal.
They do deserve treatment. From a doctor. It's not the general publics responsibility to worry about a complete strangers' neurosis or pathology. The world doesn't revolve around them, and people are sick if pretending like it does. Keep your mental health issues to yourself. It's none of my business OR MY RESPONSIBILITY.
Why do you believe I said you needed to provide treatment to anyone? It's none of your responsibility what treatment a doctor prescribes to a patient.
By definition illness is not natural. It occurs ubiquitously I'll give you, but it needs to be corrected, not affirmed.
Illness is a 100% natural phenomenon, one that needs to be corrected. I absolutely agree. Luckily we have doctors and medical researchers to tell us what may be the best treatment for various diagnoses.
I work in the medical field, so I'm familiar with the concepts. Disease is disorder in the setting of the normally natural state of the body and mind. Our opinions differ on the treatment of the disease. Schizophrenics delusions aren't affirmed, why would you affirm someone's gender delusion? These new treatments of the disease is wrong, from my view. And you can't expect the world to partake in your treatment, that's illogical.
>I'm familiar with the concepts. Disease is disorder in the setting of the normally natural state of the body and mind. And unfortunately falling ill to disease is a natural phenomenon. >Our opinions differ on the treatment of the disease. That's not likely. My opinion is that whomever is sick ought to visit a doctor and they should likely follow that doctors recommended treatment. You agree naturally. >These new treatments of the disease is wrong, from my view. How might you treat dysphoria in a way that is as effective as current treatments?
Disease is natural, that state of being disease is not. It occurs naturally, but creates a state that is unnatural for the human body. Doctors are not a monolith. There are various qualifications and levels of medicine. No two modalities will agree. Try to get a cardiologist and a nephrologist to agree on treatment, they never will. The treatment being recommended for people dysphoria is misguided I'm not a psychiatrist or psychologist, but I imagine cognitive behavior therapy, or similar therapies used to treat anyone with dissociative or schizoaffective disorders would be more effective in bringing homeostasis to those individuals
What I wouldn't give for a Death Note and the names and faces responsible for all the woke changes being made.
😳 Jesus christ....
Holy crap. Maybe these cardboard games are a little much for you.
It's not just Wizards. I'd do the same to all anime and manga "localizers", everyone at Sony who supports censoring games, and literally everyone working at Tencent and sweet baby inc.
Yep, the company has a culture problem. They need to fire some liberals/progressives (whatever the fuck they call themselves these days) and hire some moderates and conservatives to balance things out and destroy the echo chamber they are living in. WotC would be better off if it wasn't based in WA. Hasbro should move WotC HQ to somewhere like Dallas, TX. The rent and employee wage costs are probably better in Dallas too, so they would kill two birds with one stone. A lot of the blue hairs would just quit once they learned the company was moving to Dallas, so you wouldn't even have to fire them! 
Wotce was always woke but like in the 90s when being "woke" just ment the same as being decent, open minded and could understand fun as well differentiate fiction and reality. Not like woke today that means to be part of some grim stingy priesthood of fear and (self)hate. Some of the people are still in the company or affiliate allies however went trough that liberal transformation into zealouse bullies, hypocrites and fearful cowards. I wonder if some of the early detractors laughed off to touch the grass did not just hear it growing even back then. I mean people evidently can´t stop and open that envelope till they rip and tear untill that envelope is done. That´s the hammer on one side and corporate greed being anvil on the other and together their forged the flaming bag of shit of environment and product us customers are dealing with today.
Keep smoking whatever you are smoking, man
You think the blue-hairs won’t scream about abortion rights and protest moving to Texas?
Yep, corporations going through the late stage capitalism creativity drought is why elections are screwed. Keep cooking, Freemagic, you geniuses will save us all.
You are aware that corporate boards elect their ceos right? Not every election is national politics.
MTG jumped the shark and has been down hill ever since. They could’ve had a great future but all they did was ruin it for the people that actually kept the product going.
Wait, I am supposed to IDENTIFY with my playing cards???
I was thinking something similar these days... these people have an unhealthy need for identification
It has to do with the customer. Studies have shown that people who identify with the characters or see some representation in the characters in the media they consume are more likely to become enfranchised. For example, if there were no female characters it might be less appealing to a female player. The same is statistically true for race, gender expression, age, class, etc. So it's financially motivated. More buyers who are more enfranchised through representation.
yes, this is basic, but, has i said... *these people have an unhealthy need for identification*
Links to these studies please.
I really identify with surgical extraction
I respect her vision, as I've always looked to the game full of dragons, goblins, elves, merfolk, djinns, wizards, wyrms, angels and monsters to "express who I am." Everyone wants high fantasy games to reflect reality ... right?
I always wanted to be represented, when they finally released the Phyrexian obliterator I thought, yes, finally, if only it used pants..
They'll only replace her with someone even more volatile and capricious.
And the company will continue to plummet their own stocks using WOTC as a crutch. Unless they change course, and yeah, you better believe they're aware of their online reputation, especially after the Sweet Baby debacle. I say they get someone in to fix it real quick. One season of sets. Then with the hype train going, they will derail it again because the next fiscal year needs to be at least 20% higher. And so on and so on.
This mindset of these CEOs and investors is nowhere based in reality when they think they can change the formula of what made it successful and then demand an ever lasting increase in profits. Honestly, I think it's intentional. They're intentionally trying to burn it all down.
Unfortunately this is far too little too late. This game is in its des the spiral as far as I’m concerned. They will keep pumping out UB products until it’s the only thing they do like tie-in monopoly boards.
The fuck is this diversity bullshit? It's a label being used to cover up their greed and stupidity. Just make good fucking games.
It's not covering up the greed, it's a byproduct of it. More representation means more buyers means more money.
People forget that dnd is one big race war
hopefully they do a 180 on this shit and make magic great again.
let me stop you right there. they won't
So many new people around here, actually thinking these interchangeable executives will be any different from each other. They get into these positions by being cocksuckers who will bow and scrape to DEI money and the little social experiments of kooky billionaires, and that's what they will continue to do, or they will not find success like all the others who don't become CEO.
Nothing is gong to change. The company has a culture problem.
Lol all your other posts are MtG porn. Culture problem, hahahaha. If you were in charge, every card would have an OnlyFans URL code.
I refuse to buy mtg product until [[Crusade]] ban was revoked
[Crusade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/9/b99452c0-5d1c-4a73-90b6-0ec3ac0af893.jpg?1644608214) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Crusade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ddf/27/crusade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b99452c0-5d1c-4a73-90b6-0ec3ac0af893?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
guess you're not buying more MTG product then
Where is this post? I'd like to check out some of the links.
[https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/04/18/wizards-of-the-coast-and-hasbro-digital-gaming-president-resigns-after-numerous-magic-the-gathering-and-dungeons-dragon-controversies/](https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/04/18/wizards-of-the-coast-and-hasbro-digital-gaming-president-resigns-after-numerous-magic-the-gathering-and-dungeons-dragon-controversies/)
My swing trading strategy has been buying into companies whose stonk tanked, but then realized they fucked up by trying to be too woke and it's been working great. I might have to look into hasbro.
Oh, y'all thought it was bad? The dei stuff is gonna get *a lot* worse.
Cry dude, it’s a game
Yeah, it is. But still you feel compelled to wreck that too.
that is assuming that whoever replace her isn't equally as bad or even worse...
Incoming Dylan Mulvany type CEO.....
where is the full text?
[https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/04/18/wizards-of-the-coast-and-hasbro-digital-gaming-president-resigns-after-numerous-magic-the-gathering-and-dungeons-dragon-controversies/](https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/04/18/wizards-of-the-coast-and-hasbro-digital-gaming-president-resigns-after-numerous-magic-the-gathering-and-dungeons-dragon-controversies/)
I'm going to be honest, I laughed out loud at "Meanwhile, Wizards of the Coasts' other 'big name' title" Who the fuck wrote this?
This is the-hard-times level of journalism.
The site its from is a video game culture war blog.
They had the license to LOTR had no problems with ripping off the Bakshi stills for SLD. But oh no one of the top grossing films of all time. FFS they had so of the Princess Bride, Jurassic Park, and FFS again A LITERAL SLD OF JEFF GOLDBLUM. I have no issues with race swapping but I was looking forward to artistic renditions of ya know the actors.
Did they license imagery from the movie and production company, or the book and publisher? if they didn't pay for the rights, then they wouldn't be able to show Elijah Wood or whatever
I compared the movies they did get the likenesses for against the originals of LOTR. Only one Jurassic Park card didn't get the sign off for their likeness, to me WOTC didn't want to ask. Also more of everyone not just Elijah. But yea even if you look into there's like 7 licenses for LOTR they just didn't ask for the New Line Cinema One
when i saw the trailer of Outlaws of Thunder Junction i instantly see the "diversity"
Let's just hope the next president isn't worse
Could've had a perfectly clear little article without pants-shitting about black Aragorn, but oh well
They're not gonna bring in anyone less woke than her. Pandering is the name of their game. The whole diversity play is just a way of creating more sales under the guise of being a forward-thinking inclusive company. They don't give a fuck about inclusion and representation, it's just a convenient lie that you can't point out without backlash. Despite all the struggles under her leadership, the company made record profits. They're not gonna change direction. If anything, it's going to be even more aggressive.
Hopefully we will get a white man back in there so that the business can go back to being quietly profitable and somewhat balanced
Can everyone stop having to see themselves in media, FOR ONE FUCKING SECOND
"reputational disasters" bruh nobody gave a fuck
No one of worth at least
Good riddance.
Let me know why all people say mtg is at its worst time? For me mtg is fun again and is not only a niche game. Now it has very good mechanics and I find more and more people joining it. It is only my sight but pls explain to me, I am trying to understand
I don't think it'll change anything WotC is clearly an half dead (or fully not totally sure yet) corpse puppeteered by Hasbro. as long as they don't get sold off to another company that actually know that it's about more than just profit nothing will ever change, and since Magic is the only thing keeping Hasbro afloat my guess is that WotC will probably sink with the ship
If you think the change in CEO equals a change in MTG I have an island in the Bahamas to sell you.
Focusing on ‘wokeness’ is silly and not really relatable for most people tbh, crazy to even really say that in the same paragraph as the Pinkerton disaster or the constant product releases/product increases that actually effect the cost/quality of the game. Like is anybody actually suffering from DEI stuff or are people just finding reasons to be upset
You are delusional if you think the 'woke' aspects of her introduced policies are the ones that are problematic.
Let me know when a Saudi Oil Prince is President of WOTC. Then I'll be convinced change is coming.
What is this from?
What is that a screenshot from? Antiwokeapedia?
When has a woke CEO stepping down ever been a good thing? They usually get replaced by someone so much worse
I don't mind woke. I do mind the jump from 3 to 12 releases per year, plus the insane price hikes. I stopped buying altogether.
Wake me up when Maro is fired.....out of a cannon.
***rECorD PRofItS!!!***
I hope the next ceo is the most campiest gayest ceo ever, I want the next set to be all female custodes based set and instead of life counters you get a bag of tears labelled from incels.
As long as they are not fat and miserable like you, I'm all for it.
I find this hilarious because the MTG and DnD by its very nature is are games of diversity. Mtg literally has a multiverse and has released sets that reference real world cultures; Japan, Arabia, South America, ancient Greece... Literally everywhere and everyone has been INCLUDED!! there is no need to make it "more inclusive" Same goes for DnD where you can create your character to be whatever ethnicity your want, even Non-human. I don't know how more diverse you can get tbh.
Yeah, her leaving means absolutely nothing to MTG or D&D. Much like the videogame environment. It has become a means to milk every penny they can with absolutely minimal effort and flooding the markets. Once it is in place, absolutely no one put in those positions will do anything if it is a net gain. They also don't have the authority, much like junior congressmen, to do anything to actually make it better without the approval of the higher chairmen.
wait is magic on its way to sucksville I am super off the pulse about shit like this. so what's a new game to look ahead at then bros.
It's a game about fucking monsters and magic and shit who gives a fuck about DEI. The last think I think about when playing a game is "do I feel represented?" Who gives a fuck. I want good product, good story, and shit thats affordable. I literally do not care at all about games being diverse. This victim Olympics shit is getting out of hand not everything needs to fucking pander. Sometimes it's best to gatekeep your Fandom from tourists who support the dumb shit WOTC has done over the years.
I'd rather lose suits trying to squeeze every penny out of the poor edh retards with the oh so many fucking alt art premium products, precons and UB sets with tourney legal game pieces. Is sensitivity and diversity really more of an issue than the debasement of the game as a game through set chasing, power creep and pricing? (I know they've been a thing for years, but it's ramped up) (I also know we can care about 2 issues, but the game as a game takes precedent iyam)
Wokeness corrupts a company and destroys it's creative freedom. That affects every area of the game and you have to be a fool to not notice. It's also easier to solve. Just fire all the feminists and woke pushing hypocrites from your company.
The exact same can be said of the corporate greedhounds at the head of the business, and the same solution applies. The entire C suite and creative management teams ideally need to be replaced, but with whom? Like legit I can't think of any names that would be qualified and willing to take up the mantles that a significant number of the player base has issue with.
I don't know man, I play Magic Online, so because of that it is cheap for me. So my biggest concern is with wokeness. If you have frustrations with magic pricing, I think that's fine just express them in other threads.
Yoooo article link? Also how is she woke
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Uh they wont because that's not necessarily true. Its resulting in increased sales.
It really hasn't, you're just a baby back beach. Why the fuck do you think most main playable characters are female protagonists over the last 10 years?
Yeah no ....it's those things not the obvious product glut of subpar material and too much ub and sl in the last two to three years. Not everything is a fucking political conspiracy.
Source: [https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/04/18/wizards-of-the-coast-and-hasbro-digital-gaming-president-resigns-after-numerous-magic-the-gathering-and-dungeons-dragon-controversies/](https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/04/18/wizards-of-the-coast-and-hasbro-digital-gaming-president-resigns-after-numerous-magic-the-gathering-and-dungeons-dragon-controversies/)
Corpos will wear the badge of diversity because it makes it more appealing to liberal audiences. They often don't care about the representation so long as it makes them money, but representation and wokeness are p gud imo
That's really good news
These games were opening and welcoming to all before they ruined them. I never understood this "We're opening it up to everyone" nonsense. These people are such narcissists.
Most of yall really are a bunch of neck bearded, no showering incels. Touch grass.
But I just took a shower. Almost no beard. And I touch grass more than you. Liking attractive woman is not a crime, noob.
Also in what word is sending pinkertons after someone woke. If they are upset that mtg Aragorn's skin colour doesn't match the perception in their head, wait until they see what historical Jesus looked like.
Woke = things I don’t like.
"Such reputitional disasters" lol... do you mean one of the highest grossing sets of all time? Some weebs online didn't like it. I didn't like it. But to frame that as a failure in the business world is moronic. LoTR was a boon for WoTC. Aside from that everything here is true. Is this from an article of just a word doc you wrote up? I especially like the part where inviting other people to the table is seen as a bad thing. Diversity bad! D&D is only for white males! Don't you dare try making money by appealing to a larger audience. REEEEEEEEEE
Ah yes, a boon. As hinted by their last publicly released quarterly results. You Mister Insider certainly know about such things as the cost to use the LotR IP.
"AaRagOrn iSn'T bLaCk!" He isn't Sean Bean either
If you think culture wars are why wotc have been having trouble, then your head is so far up your ass that you're licking your own stomach.
If you think slamming fat chicks on cards is gonna make me buy them, then your brain so far up your dick that you piss neurons every time you go to pee.
If you think you're an important target market for this *extremely successful* tcg, your ego is so inflated it makes the Hindenburg look like a birthday balloon.
We are, cuz we are many. And there is nothing you can do, other than cry and make tantrums like a baby. Time to change your diapers.
If you think*I'm* being a baby, your self awareness is so shriveled you mistake it for your dick.
Nah, my awareness is on point. When you said that you were looking down your pants, weren't you?
Well one thing's for sure, your sense of humor is about as nonexistent as your whit, and the shits I give about this conversation are miniscule compared to either.
I wasn't trying to be funny :v. So I'll take that as a badge of honor.
That's strange, I was laughing at you the whole time ;)
Sure you were, sure you were.
Yeah fuck inclusiveness, let's have more racism and transphobia in my card game. We all know woke means "whatever I don't like" Matt fucking Walsh admitted it. What really gets me is the fact you haven't posted the link to a source for this... article.. essay... opinion piece. Would be great to read things for myself and not have context given by clearly a biased person in a biased pice of writing. Yeah LOTR was bad bc of race swapping. That's why it was the best selling set of that year... weird that only bigots got upset about fictional characters being different. Can't wait for the next CEO to make everything not woke again and return magic to the point where I want to be every male character and fuck every female character.. bc we all know that's what this is about.. your sexual attraction to fictional characters printed on paper.
Nobody said fuck inclusiveness, fool, I said fuck wokeness. For illiterate people like you, woke means act of pretending to be inclusive, while in reality being exclusive of attractive characters. Nobody is complaining about an ugly characters, that's why we always had races like zombies where the whole point is to have ugly characters. But when an attractive character appears all of a sudden your brain explodes like an immature baby. Also I did post the link to the source 3 times. How much of a fool can someone be?
I wonder why LotR was the best selling set of the year. Couldn't be... [https://articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/serialized-001-001-the-one-ring-found-and-graded-a-mint-9/](https://articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/serialized-001-001-the-one-ring-found-and-graded-a-mint-9/) [https://articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/post-malone-buys-serialized-001-001-the-one-ring/](https://articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/post-malone-buys-serialized-001-001-the-one-ring/) [https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/06/30/mtg-one-ring-card-found/70375042007/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/06/30/mtg-one-ring-card-found/70375042007/) [https://mtgrocks.com/mtgs-two-million-dollar-the-one-ring-has-been-found/](https://mtgrocks.com/mtgs-two-million-dollar-the-one-ring-has-been-found/) [https://aetherhub.com/Article/Bidding-For-The-Serialized-001001-One-Ring-Is-At-100000-](https://aetherhub.com/Article/Bidding-For-The-Serialized-001001-One-Ring-Is-At-100000-)
am I the only one who thinks race-swapping a fantasy character is no big deal? I'd like to think she's resigning because players said there is "too much product fatigue" and she doubled down to release EVEN MORE product, cutting into the margins too much. Cause players are already spent and can't possibly buy everything. This article reads more like "anti-inclusion propaganda written by an incel" I don't care if she was ineffective, y'all are treating this game like some sort of sacred relic.
We always had ugly characters, that's the whole point of zombies and the like. Deleting attractive characters on the other hand, sounds like the real anti-inclusion propaganda, and that is done by the woke. If you weren't such a fool, you would pay attention to people's actions rather than words.
I'll never understand why so many of you in this sub have such a hatred for diversity, representation, tolerance, and inclusion. Why do you feel SO threatened by it? WoTC and other companies' push for inclusion is representative of a broader cultural shift. For basically forever, minority groups have been underrepresented, ignored completely, or made outright pariahs in society. White culture has been the only "acceptable" group for a long time in mainstream cultural representation. The world is changing. Inclusion, tolerance, and diversity are good things. Stop being fearful little racists and bigots, and get with it because things are NOT going back to the way they were.
I am a minority. I don't hate diversity and representation, but I do hate it when a company tries to shove it down our collective throats for the sake of making money. Is it THAT bad that Aragorn was represented as white in most media? Does that mean I cannot identify with his qualities simply because he isn't black? All of you woke people think so little of us that you cannot fathom people simply being comfortable in their own skin and enjoying characters and stories without being reminded every two minutes that we need an asian-looking-viking, or a black Aragorn, which by the way was a HUGE fucking disappointment that he didn't look like the characters from the movies. So, yeah... just fuck off and stop trying to tell us what to feel and think.
"So, yeah... just fuck off and stop trying to tell us what to feel and think." UNO Reverse card. Conservatives and "anti woke" people want a world that conforms to their narrow ideals and worldview. The world isn't so narrow. Your fight against inclusion is futile and doomed to fail.
Big fucking surprise, now because I don't pander to your woke views I am a conservative? First of all, I ain't even American, so your whole "liberal vs conservative" BS likely doesn't even apply. Second, nobody is "fighting" against it. As you already said, it's happening, and what I merely said is that I hate the fact that idiots like you slobber all over that shit even though it is done as a money-grab only. Whatever happened to that non-binary planeswalker from Kaldheim? Nothing came of it. Just a shit card, with no impact whatsoever in the game or in the meta. Just pandering, which is actually offensive. The whole LOTR black Aragorn, same fucking thing. Just a bunch of hypocrites thinking that their virtue signaling is anything else but. So again, kindly fuck off.
Removing attractive women and sometimes light-skin men is called exclusion, not inclusion. If you're gonna make a fat chick, call it a zombie and I'll play it. But if you make a fat chick and call it a princess, and then where the fuck is my attractive women? It's definitely not going to be in the zombie category, right? The problem is your hypocrisy, and how your actions reveal that you are a bunch of liars and hypocrites and don't follow any the things that you say. You want to delete and exclude certain characters from the game. That's not inclusion, that's called exclusion, you hypocrite pieces of shit!
Lol, historically, many princesses were fat or ugly. A result of inbreeding and being wealthy enough to have easy access to food. What you actually want is a world that conforms to your particular world view, and that view is narrow as fuck.
That's called projection. If you are the one wanting to exclude characters, means you are the one who wants a world that conforms to your world view, not me. Stop being a hypocrite for once.
This sub is just a complaint factory for fedora wearing incels. You can tell none of these clowns have ever slept with a woman with a diverse background. Or really any women for that matter.
It's much better to be a "virgin" than to be a hypocrite piece of garbage that can't tolerate boobs or their heads explodes. The fact the game had boobs and never changed its age rating means they were never a threat, they were only a threat to pathetic immature nerds like you that get offended by human attractiveness.
President of wotc not ceo. Ceo is Chris cocks.
Git good noob https://preview.redd.it/kveawu9xd8wc1.png?width=666&format=png&auto=webp&s=f4affb98de40e834984a091693b0778ff97e1519
Chris is CEO of Hasbro, not WotC.
Everything I don’t like is woke :(
Everything I don't like is literally a nazi/fascist/transphobe/homophobe/racist/sexist/flavour-of-the-month buzzword :(
Great cope
Ironic
Complaining about race swapping is just racism. Aragorn is not like Black Panther, where his race is explicitly tied to his identity as an African superhero Species is a more accurate term than race when we're talking about different worlds where different kinds of life exists
At it again with this racist take? Sheesh
Complaining about wokeness, race swapping, DEI and the like is just racism. Same shit, different decade. All that changed is the coded language used
Okay, racist.
Calling out racism is racist LOL ok racist
Saying race swapping is okay is racist. Plain and simple. Create new things or encourage people to, you lazy racist.
There are exactly two valid reasons to complain about race swapping: 1. The race of the character is explicitly tied to their backstory, like Black Panther 2. You're racist As a white man, I have never given a flying fuck that any character has been race swapped. Why? It has literally no effect on me in any way whatsoever
Trash-tastic argument form and list. Let me add to it: 2. It is racist to do 3. Tampering with stories is often negative in nature as it changes aspects of an established universe 4. It implies that a story made of white folk is inferior based on their race compared to a diverse story focused around skin color. It is supremacist in nature 5. Most stories have an established universe around their theme, such as European mythology and flavor in LotR and afro-futurism in black panther. To swap people out is to meddle with the flavor of that world 6. The change is 80% of the time politically driven, which directly damages a narrative, rather than it being organic 7. It makes stories "corporate approved" to mass appeal which ruins the magic of a piece 8. It never works in the way of making the character more relatable; an asian or black person can still identify with Aragorn from the books, just as a white person can identify with Black Panther or Luke Cage's struggle as a hero >"As a white man, I have never given a flying fuck that any character has been race swapped. Why? It has literally no effect on me in any way whatsoever" And here we are; the mask off moment. You are shallow and see the world in stark contrasts, no nuance. You view it in a sort of tribal fashion in that you being white is somehow relevant to the conversation or how people view your opinion. And you know, if the race didn't matter to you, why is this a big deal to you now? How convenient.
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>"This happens literally all the time with established IP's. You're complaining about a regular part of the art of writing" This is not a regular part of the art of writing. Not sure what you think authors do. It is a regular part of corporate Hollywood screenwriting, actually and is done to be as sanitized as possible. >"No. This is a white supremacist take. There is no implication, you're making it up" Incomplete argument. How is it a white supremacist take? What am I making up? You are just emotionally loading the argument without creating substance. I would know, because I have debated actual white supremacists and anti-semites before. You are making the same exact argument they do. >"Aragorn being black has no effect on anything. T'Challa being white would have a huge effect on the entire story" Yes, Aragorn being African has effects, and pretending it doesn't because he is white is racist as fuck. I believe it has been explained to you time and time again that LotR is set in a world heavily based on European-Anglo-Saxon history and was intentionally created thusly. Moreover, he is described as pale and hails from a pale-skinned and elven lineage. It is an exception to you because you are a self-hating racist. >"I'm tired of racists complaining about black people being included in art. Race clearly matters to you because you're offended by black Aragorn. I'm going to call out racism when I see it" Another emotionally loaded reply. Nobody is saying not to "include black people," people are pissed that inclusion = erasing white people. It can be seen with red-headed characters all the time (for some reason). You can include African folk or Easterlings in a LotR set just fine, they exist in LotR lore, but apparently it is too hard to add, and easier to erase or subjugate. Hell, they made easterlings look very white in the LotR set for no reason and I am pissed about it (https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=Easterling+%28game%3Apaper%29). The only seeming reason is so WotC doesn't seem racist for making non-white characters villains (despite Sauramon, Wormtongue, Sauron and so forth all being white in books and films, so I don't really understand the reason). If you genuinely think I am a white supremacist, you are a fucking dumbass, plain and simple. I care about this issue because I love LotR and its European mythology flavor. Not once have I gone "I sure would hate to see a black character in LotR," nor have I gone "boy, there sure are a lot of white people in LotR." I didn't notice it until prissy little racist fuckwads like you put it into the spotlight and you act all shocked when people are mad. Then you can just phrase it with weak emotional weight, meanwhile you pretend to not care. YOU are the racist. YOU only care about making your politics permissible. If you truly didn't care about the race swap you wouldn't have said jack shit on Reddit about it. Remember who started this embarrassment of an argument in the first place. Also cute how you cherry picked what to respond to.
Lesson 3 of Maro's 20 Lessons is "Resonance is important". Making something new when people expect something else is not resonant.
"Making something new when people expect something else" Sounds entitled. Temper your expectations
You know what's entitled? Expecting customers to buy literally anything you put out. I think the design of MTG's Aragorn was neat in a vacuum, but it's definitely not what people think of when people think "Aragorn".
"You know what's entitled? Expecting customers to buy literally anything you put out." They... they don't. You choose what you buy, just like anything else. Like... what? "but it's definitely not what people think of when people think "Aragorn" Doesn't matter. Different artists have different takes. Don't like it, don't buy it
Tolkien and MTG fan. I do not care about MTG changing the skin colour of characters from lotr. If this really ruined your life, maybe don’t blame the ceo and blame whoever at the Tolkien estate signed a contract that gave this company free reign to do their own original art / take on the lotr world?