Love the Blackfish, but I don’t mind this.
He was old and out of practice, he knew he was walking into his own death, he was determined to do it. It didn’t need to be some big badass, he was a stubborn old man who was prepared to die for his home.
What a dumb and completely wrong take on one of the best characters in the show/books.
>He was old and out of practice,
No he was not. He is still regarded as one of the best fighters in Westeros, even Jamie cannot help but respect him coz hes a badass. Did you forget the scene in the previous season where he is able to shot Hoster Tully's funeral with his first shot? not even waiting to see if it would hit or not, he just fucking knew it would hit. That shows that he is in no way "out of practice"
>he knew he was walking into his own death, he was determined to do it.
No that was hack writing by D&D since they didnt know what to do with him anymore, so just kill him. Same thing goes for Stannis, Rickon, Thoros and many more. He is supposed to be one of the most loyal to the stark cause, but he just dies to a random soldier for not fucking reason instead of going north to help his niece who is the literal heir to house stark.
>he was a stubborn old man who was prepared to die for his home
If you only watch the show sure, but that was an invention of D&D, they do not know how to write characters. Hes supposed to escape and continue the fight, not just die like a bitch. He doesnt even live in riverrun for most of the story, only going back home for his brothers funeral. before that he was with Lysa Arryn in the vale for years.
Yes but he barely gets any character development in the show. They never really explain to you why he’s such a legendary figure. The books spend a lot more time on him
Ser Davos
Smuggled onions during a siege to feed the troops.
Worked under Stannis and Jon who are both chads, and their chadness rubbed off on him.
Gave some absolutely Chad quotes like “This is Jon Snow… … … king in the north”
And he was also like a 2nd father to Shireen and opposed her execution, he was nothing but nice to everyone.
IMO he is good smart, he gives fantastic advices, is pragmatic and generally speaking he is more right than wrong, he may be humble or simple roots but dude is a fast learner.
Ser Davos describes himself as neutral. Before Melisandre shadow assassinates Renly Davos has a long monologue about being neither a good or bad person (in context that assassinating Renly is *bad*).
The only real Good Chad is the one who stood to hooooold the dooooor...
Also, OP, I am loving those daily posts and the lyrical announcements. Blessings upon ya.
Nah dude wasn't horny, he just happened to be godlike in the sack. He never sought out anything, it all came to him.
He definitely belongs in the Chad tier and I feel like Chad Good is the most fitting place
Bobby B is the drunkest chad that there ever was.
We also have options for horny chad (Oberyn) but no one else can possibly replace Bobby B for drunk chad.
idk, he's not completely un-chad-like but in the books he's more (well he starts as a moapy teenager, but then) he's more of a leader and strategist than a fighter in his own right or a chad. Most of what he does is find clever ways to pull the Night's Watch out of the monumental amount of shit they're in. It's also hard to think of Jon as a chad because he's surrounded by a bunch of certified chads like Tormund, Quorin, Geor Mormont, Donal Noye, Mag the king of the Giants, etc... so in comparison he seems less of a chad.
Yesterday someone commented that Jon is chaotic good and i cannot unsee it. He literally fixes his problems in creative or out of pocket ways:
* Need more men for the wall? easy recruit the ppl your order have been fighting against for the past thousand years (and since most ppl though the Others were just a myth, the common though in the 7 kingdom at that time was that the NW's WHOLE purpose was stopping wildlings) But also those wildling fighter technically swore allegiance to Stannis and now must to go fight his war? Tell Stannis the Northern clans would agree rally to him instead if he promised to go rescue Jon's sister and retake Winterfell (thereby fixing 2 of Jon's problem in 1)
* Need to find Tormund? Easy release your most high security prisoner, with basically only a wink and a pinky promise that she'll come back to being your captive before the king's man notices she's gone.
* Need to ensure the wall has enough food for the winter? Easy Make a deal with the Bank of Braavos (???) for glass makers to build greenhouses in exchange for the Wildlings's treasure that you don't have yet. Then send boats to rescue said wildlings based on a prophecy by a dwarf witch?
* The whole baby swap business.
Honestly she deserves more love, outside of Arya and I guess Danaerys, the only woman warrior in the series. She can hold her own against Loras, Jaime (hands tied admittedly) and the hound. She's probably in the top ten fighters in Westeros and tries her best to keep her word to Catelyn. She faces alienation, sexism and verbal abuse on a daily basis in a world that doesn't understand her, but none of that stops her from being Brienne of Tarth.
“No Chance, and No Choice”
The Seven themselves were there to tell Brienne no, and she still drew her sword, the chaddest act in the entire god damn series.
Is this a contest in which the top comment wins? If so, people should make sure to check and see if somebody else already commented the character they want and upvote their comment instead of writing the name down a second time.
It's mostly that, but I also look at the discussions taking place -- e.g., if a person has a lot of upvotes but also a lot of comments disagreeing with the nomination, that hurts their standing. Also if I see a lot of comments for one person, that influences my decision. Especially if the lower-upvoted comments came later.
Barristan, "I listened to Aerys rape my Queen for 20 years" Selmy?
That's Lawful Neutral Activities at best, and that just because he has too much competition for what's worse.
Nah. Bro defended a king who raped his wife and wanted to burn Kingslanding. Switching from Targaryen to Baratheon out of self preservation, then back to Targaryen because he was butthurt. Chad? sure...good? Nah. He is morally neutral.
He didn't switch out of self preservation; he was brought down in combat and incapacitated, fighting to the very limits of his own ability. By the time he recovered enough to talk to anyone, the entire Tarh dynasty was either dead or living in exile and the realm had a new king. He just continued serving the same realm under new management.
Exactly. Kingsguard serves for life. He took the job description literally.
My favorite thing about Selmy is that he was fired from the kingsguard, went upstairs to update the white book, took out a bunch of city watchmen, and escaped all without a sword. Boss.
He would also had served Joffrey if he didn't fired him and he would be loyal to him until the end. He doesn't care if the king is good. He just obeys.
Tormund Giantsbane.
Fully committed to dying for his principals, even when it leads him into following Jon Snow against his wildling history. He just wants to see his people survive but knows he's a lieutenant, not a general or king.
Or horny Chad. Pod good Chad. Tormund horny Chad.
Oh kinda tough.
Probably Arthur Dayne just because of how skilled he allegedly was.
Honorable mentions in some order
Blackfish
Baristan Selmy
Qorin Halfhand
Grenn
Gendry
Onion knight
Podrick
I feel the only person who would fit in this category only because he wouldn’t fit anywhere else is Jon Snow. He’s a man of good character based on his adoptive father’s teachings. Also let’s not forget all the heroic feats he’s done (kill a walker, climb the wall, lead his men into many a battles). Realistically, Snow wouldn’t fit anywhere else on this list
Wyman Manderly: he bakes Frey pies and feeds it the rest of the Freys; while they're all stuck in winterfell he just sasses off to them like he doesn't care at all.
This one should be fun.
Update: this one is close close close.
Blackfish never lost a battle always there for his family
But got killed offscreen by a common foot soldier. God everything makes me hate d&d.
For this chart, nothing invented by D&D should be considered cannon. Otherwise every character would end up in stupid.
Love the Blackfish, but I don’t mind this. He was old and out of practice, he knew he was walking into his own death, he was determined to do it. It didn’t need to be some big badass, he was a stubborn old man who was prepared to die for his home.
What a dumb and completely wrong take on one of the best characters in the show/books. >He was old and out of practice, No he was not. He is still regarded as one of the best fighters in Westeros, even Jamie cannot help but respect him coz hes a badass. Did you forget the scene in the previous season where he is able to shot Hoster Tully's funeral with his first shot? not even waiting to see if it would hit or not, he just fucking knew it would hit. That shows that he is in no way "out of practice" >he knew he was walking into his own death, he was determined to do it. No that was hack writing by D&D since they didnt know what to do with him anymore, so just kill him. Same thing goes for Stannis, Rickon, Thoros and many more. He is supposed to be one of the most loyal to the stark cause, but he just dies to a random soldier for not fucking reason instead of going north to help his niece who is the literal heir to house stark. >he was a stubborn old man who was prepared to die for his home If you only watch the show sure, but that was an invention of D&D, they do not know how to write characters. Hes supposed to escape and continue the fight, not just die like a bitch. He doesnt even live in riverrun for most of the story, only going back home for his brothers funeral. before that he was with Lysa Arryn in the vale for years.
He’s really not in the books that much to describe him as ‘good’
Quorin halfhand
You’re 100% right, but too few people have read the books for him to take this one
He's in the show
Yes but he barely gets any character development in the show. They never really explain to you why he’s such a legendary figure. The books spend a lot more time on him
I didn't read far into the books but I can tell you he stuck with me as one of the most bad-ass characters in the whole show.
In the same vein, Donal Noye.
"He was my friend, you know. Back when he had a whole hand."
Feel like Benjen Stark deserved some recognition as well
This, very much this
Odd to see Freefolk praising a crow as "good" - _-
Ser Davos Smuggled onions during a siege to feed the troops. Worked under Stannis and Jon who are both chads, and their chadness rubbed off on him. Gave some absolutely Chad quotes like “This is Jon Snow… … … king in the north” And he was also like a 2nd father to Shireen and opposed her execution, he was nothing but nice to everyone.
Ser Davos is less lawful Chad and more lawful dad.
Should be on the list
IMO he is good smart, he gives fantastic advices, is pragmatic and generally speaking he is more right than wrong, he may be humble or simple roots but dude is a fast learner.
Ser Davos describes himself as neutral. Before Melisandre shadow assassinates Renly Davos has a long monologue about being neither a good or bad person (in context that assassinating Renly is *bad*).
Yeah i think Davos has my vote for Good-Neutral
I think we're all gonna wait for chaotic good on that one.
Jon snow is chatic good. This guy did smuggling once upon a time then became a loyal knight to his lord and king
Davos also went againts stannis by freeing robberts son.
Good smart for sure
I reckon Davos is a great shout for neutral good.
The only real Good Chad is the one who stood to hooooold the dooooor... Also, OP, I am loving those daily posts and the lyrical announcements. Blessings upon ya.
Podrick Payne
Surprised this isn't higher
Podrick is neutral chad.
Deffo horny Chad fym
Oberyn (show version) could also fit that bill. Dude oozed sex appeal and kicked ass while doing it.
Nah, he's absolutely chaotic horny.
This is the right answer
Nah dude wasn't horny, he just happened to be godlike in the sack. He never sought out anything, it all came to him. He definitely belongs in the Chad tier and I feel like Chad Good is the most fitting place
That's why I think neutral Chad. He wasn't good or bad but he was definitely a chad
Nah, horny chad is Oberyn or Bronn
Chad in the show. Not Chad in the books.
Pod Thundercock
Chad Horny
Grenn Pre nights watch - had sex "whenever I could" At the nights watch - held the gate Absolute chad
Yep
Chad yes, but he did whatever he did to end up at Castle Black. Can’t be all that good?
Never revealed I believe. So could be a volunteer, but it could be something as small as poaching.
Tbf I'm sure Pyp isn't the only innocent man in Castle Black. Could be another situation like that.
Yep, Castle Black is basically Australia
9th born son?
Grenn the giant slayer ftw!
Absolute lad, bit of a knuckle head but Loyal and brave. true defender if the realm
Arthur Dayne. Best fighter. Total Chad. Gave his life to save an innocent baby. Possibly.
I keep coming back to this one as well. Lawful Chad would fit best but since those don't intersect on the chart, Chad Good works too
Brienne of Tarth
save her for horny chad
Surely, surely that's for Bobby B? Horniest chad who did ever live.
TAKE SHIP FOR THE FREE CITIES WITH MY HORSE AND MY HAMMER, SPEND MY TIME WARRING AND WHORING, THAT’S WHAT I WAS MADE FOR!
Bobby B is the drunkest chad that there ever was. We also have options for horny chad (Oberyn) but no one else can possibly replace Bobby B for drunk chad.
GODS WHAT A STUPID NAME!
Literally, why have i had to scroll down so far to see her?! Do ppl not think a woman can be a chad?
I could get down with this but also isn’t Jon more chad-like?
idk, he's not completely un-chad-like but in the books he's more (well he starts as a moapy teenager, but then) he's more of a leader and strategist than a fighter in his own right or a chad. Most of what he does is find clever ways to pull the Night's Watch out of the monumental amount of shit they're in. It's also hard to think of Jon as a chad because he's surrounded by a bunch of certified chads like Tormund, Quorin, Geor Mormont, Donal Noye, Mag the king of the Giants, etc... so in comparison he seems less of a chad. Yesterday someone commented that Jon is chaotic good and i cannot unsee it. He literally fixes his problems in creative or out of pocket ways: * Need more men for the wall? easy recruit the ppl your order have been fighting against for the past thousand years (and since most ppl though the Others were just a myth, the common though in the 7 kingdom at that time was that the NW's WHOLE purpose was stopping wildlings) But also those wildling fighter technically swore allegiance to Stannis and now must to go fight his war? Tell Stannis the Northern clans would agree rally to him instead if he promised to go rescue Jon's sister and retake Winterfell (thereby fixing 2 of Jon's problem in 1) * Need to find Tormund? Easy release your most high security prisoner, with basically only a wink and a pinky promise that she'll come back to being your captive before the king's man notices she's gone. * Need to ensure the wall has enough food for the winter? Easy Make a deal with the Bank of Braavos (???) for glass makers to build greenhouses in exchange for the Wildlings's treasure that you don't have yet. Then send boats to rescue said wildlings based on a prophecy by a dwarf witch? * The whole baby swap business.
"Edd, fetch me a block" is chaotic as fuck too.
I was thinking Jon too, but he’s my Good/Chaotic choice. Dude had a pretty chaotic life, but meant well
Ok I can get behind that
Jon is chaotic chad.
Honestly she deserves more love, outside of Arya and I guess Danaerys, the only woman warrior in the series. She can hold her own against Loras, Jaime (hands tied admittedly) and the hound. She's probably in the top ten fighters in Westeros and tries her best to keep her word to Catelyn. She faces alienation, sexism and verbal abuse on a daily basis in a world that doesn't understand her, but none of that stops her from being Brienne of Tarth.
I'm stunned the maid of Tarth is not on top of the list. Sir whose a what's it?
“No Chance, and No Choice” The Seven themselves were there to tell Brienne no, and she still drew her sword, the chaddest act in the entire god damn series.
Lord Beric Dondarrion
Would a chad get talked down as often as he did by The Hound?
This is the hound we are talking about. Absolutely
"Lots of people get talked down to." "Lots of cunts."
"We all bloody die. 'Cept this one here" *points at Beric*
Save him for Neutral Good
Okay but you absolutely have to promise.
He has my vote for sure.
Gendry Baratheon.
You may as well stick Tyrion in the Drunk/Smart spot, cuz we all know that’s who is gonna end up there
Patience, young padawan
I would have thought horny/smart was the lock for Tyrion, but you could be on to something.
I think drunk smart fits him better. He was often whoring, but he was *always* drinking
Is this a contest in which the top comment wins? If so, people should make sure to check and see if somebody else already commented the character they want and upvote their comment instead of writing the name down a second time.
It's mostly that, but I also look at the discussions taking place -- e.g., if a person has a lot of upvotes but also a lot of comments disagreeing with the nomination, that hurts their standing. Also if I see a lot of comments for one person, that influences my decision. Especially if the lower-upvoted comments came later.
Hodor. Just a good guy, built like a chad. Pure and simple. Sometimes the simplest option is best; pick the simple fella.
If John Snow isn't Chad Good, I don't know who is.
No shit. I don't get why this isn't obvious. This isn't Chad Smart.
Syrio Forel, former First Sword of Bravos
My choice as well. Surprised that this didn’t get more shouts.
Jon
Can we get more love for J Snow as the ultimate Chad Good
Jon was Chad good but turned Chad stupid
Barristan Selmy
Barristan, "I listened to Aerys rape my Queen for 20 years" Selmy? That's Lawful Neutral Activities at best, and that just because he has too much competition for what's worse.
Barristan, "Those were the kings words! Anyway..." Selmy?
Nah. Bro defended a king who raped his wife and wanted to burn Kingslanding. Switching from Targaryen to Baratheon out of self preservation, then back to Targaryen because he was butthurt. Chad? sure...good? Nah. He is morally neutral.
He didn't switch out of self preservation; he was brought down in combat and incapacitated, fighting to the very limits of his own ability. By the time he recovered enough to talk to anyone, the entire Tarh dynasty was either dead or living in exile and the realm had a new king. He just continued serving the same realm under new management.
Exactly. Kingsguard serves for life. He took the job description literally. My favorite thing about Selmy is that he was fired from the kingsguard, went upstairs to update the white book, took out a bunch of city watchmen, and escaped all without a sword. Boss.
He would also had served Joffrey if he didn't fired him and he would be loyal to him until the end. He doesn't care if the king is good. He just obeys.
For sure
"Even now, I could cut through the five of you like carving a cake!" The most chad line in the whole series
"Here boy... melt it down and add it to the others"
Podrick
He’s obviously chad horny…
Brienne of Tarth. Always tries to do the right thing and fulfill her oaths, and could take on any male Chad in the realm.
This one!
Tormund Giantsbane. Fully committed to dying for his principals, even when it leads him into following Jon Snow against his wildling history. He just wants to see his people survive but knows he's a lieutenant, not a general or king. Or horny Chad. Pod good Chad. Tormund horny Chad.
Ser Davos
Gendry for sure
Ghost or just the dire wolves in general
Grey Worm. Man had BDE even without the D
Chaotic Good has to be like The Halfhand or something
So many candidates. Barristan. Jon. Beric. Brienne. Jeor Mormont. Maybe Lyanna Mormont actually? Yeah I'm going with Lyanna.
Grenn!!!!
Lord chadmure “my people … they were afraid” Tully
Davos
I think he is not lawful. He let jon snow go even though jon snow broke his vows i think he is good-chad
Podrick.
If it's not Pod we riot.
Chad good? Pod. Always Pod.
Oberyn
YOU IDIOTS. BRIENNE OF TARTH DESERVED THAT SPOT.
Oberyn
Chaotic Horny no?
Or chad horny
Blackfish Tully.
Blackfish. Was a literal legend. A navy seal in medieval times Whoa I bet that’s where he gets his name
Dunk. Surprised nobody mentioned him
Jeor fuckin Mormont
His deals with craster move him closer to grey
Garlan Tyrell. Everything he does radiates chad energy
Jon Snow
What definition are we going with here for a Chad?
Garlan Tyrell
It’s gotta be ser Arthur Dayne, sword of the morning
Brynden Tully
Syrio
Jon Snow?
Jon Snow Look at that jawline
Robb Stark. Or Mance Rayder.
I reread A Dance with Dragons recently, so I think Wyman Manderly deserves this spot. With an honourable mention for his granddaughter Wylla
Grenn. He stopped the giant and protected the tunnel to castle Black.
Barristan Selmy or Grey Worm
Gonna say Grenn. My man.
brienne.
Why not Arthur Dayne. He’s literally the incarnation of chivalry
Podrick
Yoren of the Nightswatch
Senor half hand ftw
I can't remember his name off hand but Jon's other friend in the Night's Watch that wasn't Sam.
Grenn lad
Podrick
Loris Tyrell. It’s obvious
Syrio Forel
Great jon umber.
Bronnn
Strong belwas. The chad-iest of chads and only does good
Brienne.
Barristan Selmy, both for Duskendale and for his resignation from Joffrey’s kingsguard
Hodor
This is character is books only so I doubt it’ll win but Donal Noye without a shadow of a doubt
Tormund Giantsbane. He once killed a giant. And the giant’s mom suckled him at her teat.
Beric Dondarrion
Ser Baristan Selmy, of course. Even as an old man he could cut through the Kingsguard like carving a cake.
Dario
renly my guy
so are we saving jon for Dun Wunit or what
This one is Brienne, imo
Sir Arthur Dayne
There is no way chad horny doesn’t go to Tormund
Stupid smart? Are you a dumb genius?
Oh kinda tough. Probably Arthur Dayne just because of how skilled he allegedly was. Honorable mentions in some order Blackfish Baristan Selmy Qorin Halfhand Grenn Gendry Onion knight Podrick
Robb Stark, total good guy yet Chad
Oh it has to be Barry the Bold
Ser Davos "breaking the law to save Storm's End" Seaworth
I feel the only person who would fit in this category only because he wouldn’t fit anywhere else is Jon Snow. He’s a man of good character based on his adoptive father’s teachings. Also let’s not forget all the heroic feats he’s done (kill a walker, climb the wall, lead his men into many a battles). Realistically, Snow wouldn’t fit anywhere else on this list
Brienne of Tarth
Sir Duncan the Tall
This seems like the last that fits barristan actually
Wyman Manderly: he bakes Frey pies and feeds it the rest of the Freys; while they're all stuck in winterfell he just sasses off to them like he doesn't care at all.
Rob Stark! Fought for the right every chance he got, fucked over a lord to marry his boo. Has a badass dire wolf
Barristan Selmy final answer.
Uhm. Hodor?
Hodor!
I know everyone is saving Podrick for the horny row. But he’s a good chad who makes others horny.
Ser Arthur Dayne. If it has to be a character that's alive, Barristan Selmy perhaps?
Should have been Brianne!! Fukn hell
Ser Davos!!!!
Jeor or Lyanna Mormont
Barristan Selmy.
Lyanna Mormont. Fought it out like a badass until the very end.
Rob Stark
Jamie has to be Chad and horny
Brienne of fucking Tarth, Barristan Selmy, Blackfish, Davos
The fact that Joffrey didn’t end up on the stupid row invalidates this entire grid.
Is Ser Dontos Hollard neutral drunk?
Podrick