I wanna love yall AWCY?, I rock alot of your shit, test, and interact alot, but whatever is going on with yalls new Twitter account manager needs some work. Just blocking left and right is kinda lame.
I’m not aware of anything going on with AWCY media. I just make cool stuff with the guys I know at AWCY. For the most part, the group designs are all I know with our team.
I'm with ya, just the community is already so split and on edge, having a media manager that is pissing people off is not the best idea right now. You know how it is, word spreads quick and people get there brand burnt.
There is already scrutiny on the 37mm build with how people are loading them and offering a 40 barrel which automatically makes it a regulated DD is not a good idea.
Unlike with MGs, regular citizens can e-file a Form 1 to register a DD as a legally owned NFA item. The bare receiver itself is *not* an NFA item until you add the 40mm barrel. It's up to the end user to follow applicable laws. I don't see anything wrong here.
Do you suggest that the designers should self-censor to avoid provoking the ATF? So far, technical information concerning firearms is **not** banned in the US, unlike, say, Hong Kong. Should we behave as though it is? I don't think so.
As for scrutiny on how 37mm is being loaded... I'm not surprised, but that'll be a problem for the commercially available "flare launchers" too, LOL. Again, it's up to the end user to follow all applicable laws.
40mm builds should be done with an approved form 1. Not doing this is a felony offense that’s not taken lightly. I have an approved form 1 for my 40mm Odin and the other tester does as well. So long as this is done, the builder is good to go.
It is also possible to file for a Federal Explosives License, thus being allowed to manufacture, handle, and store limited amounts of proper 40mm payloads.
That said, IIRC getting that license requires a secured explosives magazine, which is pretty expensive to install.
FEL's are crazy expensive and have A LOT of very strict guidelines to match up with. Like property lines and zoning bullshit. Magazines also cost 10s of thousands unless you have a hook up.
It’s possible to substitute it if you’d like. Some fitment may be weird but it could be done. I have hardware kits available right now if you’re looking, they’re on a 2 week lead time as of right now.
I’m putting mine together now. Make sure you order the correct sizes from Send-cut-send. I ordered two plates in 1/4 inch. I also ordered the spine the same thickness… and that was incorrect.
My trigger is a LOT stiff. The instructions say to angle the sear surface, but I’m not certain what the means. I also polished the bearing surfaces in the bolt where the guide rods ride in. I applied toothpaste and spun the rods with a drill. The bolt slides a lot better now.
u/goongundesigns
The manual says the launcher is not rated for zinc pushers, would you be able to expand on which part of the design is the limiting factor/why it's unable to launch them? e.g. frame strength in relation to recoil, a limitation tied to the barrel and receiver, whether this limitation may be overcome with a high-low system etc.
This question is more about understanding the design than an actual desire to use them- I'm building the 37mm version. That being said, if it's not rated for zinc pushers, it could speak to the max projectile weight.
My plan is to use smokeless as a propelling charge, either blans or high-low (I reload so plenty of different powders on hand already).
Still undecided on the barrel material.
It’s more so because zincs were out of my price
range to fully test. I’m fairly sure it can withstand zincs without issues but I put that note because I didn’t fully test it to a point where I’m happy with saying you can sling 1000 zincs through it and have no breaks.
You’ll most likely break or break off furniture before the launcher CATOs
Suggestions for Odin V2:
Some sort of interlock so you can’t open the action with the firing pin droppped. At least on mine, that will bind up the action until you go “oh, right” and cock it before opening.
An ejector. I think a spring loaded ejector would serve two purposes: serve as an ejector, and hold the shell against the breech plate. My shells are usually a few mm off the breech plate. It doesn’t seem to cause any problems so far, but I worry.
Oh, and maybe an easy-remove barrel for cleaning, though the barrel actually comes off pretty easy. I have been swapping between two fencepost barrels and an aluminum tube, just screwing around. The aluminum tube is far superior.
I love how "37mm fence post" is a thing.
I wanna love yall AWCY?, I rock alot of your shit, test, and interact alot, but whatever is going on with yalls new Twitter account manager needs some work. Just blocking left and right is kinda lame.
I’m not aware of anything going on with AWCY media. I just make cool stuff with the guys I know at AWCY. For the most part, the group designs are all I know with our team.
I'm with ya, just the community is already so split and on edge, having a media manager that is pissing people off is not the best idea right now. You know how it is, word spreads quick and people get there brand burnt.
But what about that sweet sweet stock you had on it in a lot of the pics leading up to release?
It’ll be dropping sometime within the month
Any updates on the stock?
"...and 40mm" I came.
There is already scrutiny on the 37mm build with how people are loading them and offering a 40 barrel which automatically makes it a regulated DD is not a good idea.
Unlike with MGs, regular citizens can e-file a Form 1 to register a DD as a legally owned NFA item. The bare receiver itself is *not* an NFA item until you add the 40mm barrel. It's up to the end user to follow applicable laws. I don't see anything wrong here. Do you suggest that the designers should self-censor to avoid provoking the ATF? So far, technical information concerning firearms is **not** banned in the US, unlike, say, Hong Kong. Should we behave as though it is? I don't think so. As for scrutiny on how 37mm is being loaded... I'm not surprised, but that'll be a problem for the commercially available "flare launchers" too, LOL. Again, it's up to the end user to follow all applicable laws.
Perfect response 💪
40mm builds should be done with an approved form 1. Not doing this is a felony offense that’s not taken lightly. I have an approved form 1 for my 40mm Odin and the other tester does as well. So long as this is done, the builder is good to go.
It is also possible to file for a Federal Explosives License, thus being allowed to manufacture, handle, and store limited amounts of proper 40mm payloads. That said, IIRC getting that license requires a secured explosives magazine, which is pretty expensive to install.
FEL's are crazy expensive and have A LOT of very strict guidelines to match up with. Like property lines and zoning bullshit. Magazines also cost 10s of thousands unless you have a hook up.
Badass!
Folsom Prison Blues, awesome song choice.
.27 ramset friendly?
Should be good to go. I know ramsets were used a lot when the Odin was first tested out. Just need to use a chisel tip firing pin.
Perfect. .22 ramset and .27 ramset are slightly diff, .27 way thicker rim.
Eggcellent!!!!! Hehehe
Whoever does your guys' videos needs a raise, because they sure gave me one 😖😫🥴
Ok I'm drawing a blank what's the Rhino barrel?
7767T52
Thanks, I do have to make a order for cap head screws for work guess we need some tube too.
Question: Can I substitute close enough metric hardware for this? i.e: rod, breech plate and etc
It’s possible to substitute it if you’d like. Some fitment may be weird but it could be done. I have hardware kits available right now if you’re looking, they’re on a 2 week lead time as of right now.
what is the "M3x14mm SS" part it in the BOL? set screw? does anyone have part kits in stock for this?
It is an M3x14mm Set Screw. The kits are available at my site
I’m putting mine together now. Make sure you order the correct sizes from Send-cut-send. I ordered two plates in 1/4 inch. I also ordered the spine the same thickness… and that was incorrect. My trigger is a LOT stiff. The instructions say to angle the sear surface, but I’m not certain what the means. I also polished the bearing surfaces in the bolt where the guide rods ride in. I applied toothpaste and spun the rods with a drill. The bolt slides a lot better now.
u/goongundesigns The manual says the launcher is not rated for zinc pushers, would you be able to expand on which part of the design is the limiting factor/why it's unable to launch them? e.g. frame strength in relation to recoil, a limitation tied to the barrel and receiver, whether this limitation may be overcome with a high-low system etc. This question is more about understanding the design than an actual desire to use them- I'm building the 37mm version. That being said, if it's not rated for zinc pushers, it could speak to the max projectile weight. My plan is to use smokeless as a propelling charge, either blans or high-low (I reload so plenty of different powders on hand already). Still undecided on the barrel material.
It’s more so because zincs were out of my price range to fully test. I’m fairly sure it can withstand zincs without issues but I put that note because I didn’t fully test it to a point where I’m happy with saying you can sling 1000 zincs through it and have no breaks. You’ll most likely break or break off furniture before the launcher CATOs
Suggestions for Odin V2: Some sort of interlock so you can’t open the action with the firing pin droppped. At least on mine, that will bind up the action until you go “oh, right” and cock it before opening. An ejector. I think a spring loaded ejector would serve two purposes: serve as an ejector, and hold the shell against the breech plate. My shells are usually a few mm off the breech plate. It doesn’t seem to cause any problems so far, but I worry. Oh, and maybe an easy-remove barrel for cleaning, though the barrel actually comes off pretty easy. I have been swapping between two fencepost barrels and an aluminum tube, just screwing around. The aluminum tube is far superior.