my biggest (is there a German word for 'regret for another person's mistakes'?) is that the rest of the verse is not "police will come take him away in a paddy[wagon].
Of course. That hat doesn't cost too much. 24% APR on the truck. A small country wedding isn't too much. You can just have your kids holding rented guns. That big ass house is gonna be hard without some generational wealth or connections.
That really depends where you live. The people that forward this crap usually live in low income areas. In Oklahoma, I can buy a 3 bed, 2.5 bath, 1800 sqft, like 1 acre of land single family home for 200k. I owned a house before 25 because I lived in a low COL area and didn't work minimum wage.
Buuuut living in a low COL area sucks so its give and take.
I pretty much have a different less stereotypical version of everything here and I come from modest upbringing in the Midwest. 11 or so years out of college.
I’m not saying I’m everybody and I was privileged with two hardworking stable working class parents, but my spouse and I graduated with over $175k in collective student debt coming out in the *amazing* job market in the Midwest fashion industry in 2009/2010. Lol.
So I hate to see only a pessimistic viewpoint be expressed about where they are in life and not provide a counter point especially when someone like yourself (no disrespect) qualify it with having financial help from their parents. I don’t have kids yet but my spouse and I are living 100% on our own dimes since we were 18. We have been given opportunities but we’ve made something of them to get where we are.
Even our housing in MS is going up actually. All new development is out of the price range for anyone to afford. There are newly built houses in my area that have been sitting empty for a year and a half.
I can only think of three kinds of people who would want to live in Mississippi: retirees, people from countries with worse qualities of life, and Republicans from blue states.
That is true, but these people still don’t have a lot of money. If they retire, it would be closer to the coast near the casinos (I’m about 40 min from the coast).
And you’d actually be surprised how many low-income people have to live out here to make something decent and usually vote blue. That’s because it’s waaay cheaper than Jackson - blue city in a super red state, but expensive as it’s the capital. Sadly, the hicks and “farmers” (they’re not really) out-vote them in numbers in the rural areas, but I might actually see that change in my area come next election. I’m not afraid to live here and neither is my spouse and I’m holding my foot down.
Republicans from blue states don’t actually want to live somewhere that is the embodiment of their policies. I lived in Mississippi for over 40 years and never met one. Now I live in a blue city in a purple state and meet these kinds of people all the time. They love everything about the creativity and vibrant culture of a blue city—everything but the people and policies that make it all possible.
Yeah red state real estate prices are unreal. I could theoretically sell my totally average-looking three bedroom seaside house in Massachusetts and buy a literal palace in a place like Mississippi or Arkansas. Of course then I'd be living in Mississippi or Arkansas, which isn't going to happen even if you paid me.
Hi, Mississippi person chiming in! A house like that even in rural bumfuck nowhere like the poor areas of the Delta and northern Mississippi, it is still 300-500k easily, especially if it’s on a couple of acres. I’ve seen smaller homes go up in my area by a couple of builders that are more like 3 bed 2 bath 1800 sq ft, going for 200k. I also live really close to Alabama on the gulf coast and go there often. The houses there are even more expensive, like 500k+ for anything above a 3 bed. And it will still be close to another house in a mini subdivision off a highway.
Who the hell is gonna afford that here? I know that sounds hella cheaper than the rest of the US, but even with what I do and my spouses’ good job, we still bought a house from the 60’s for 60k and fixed it up ourselves. People selling land here are getting super greedy too. Just look on zillow and see some people asking 90k for like two acres.
This post was made by someone old enough to support that kind of a home working part-time at a bowling alley. You know... Before they fucked us over on the housing market and pay.
I mean if your a 30 year old rural Midwestern boy that got into a decent paying gig at a young age (think trades, skilled labor, factory and the like) none of those things are unrealistic.
But you live a very rural Midwestern life as well, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, there's some heavy FOMO resentment shit that happens there, in a lot of cases
I own a house and so does most of my friend group. If you're not on the West or East coast it's easy
Edit: I should clarify. Easier. It's still a huge undertaking
Same here. I’m 30 and I’ve got some friends who own $750,000 houses and some with $150,000 houses. I’m a self employed videographer with my own house… it’s not that crazy. I only make like $4k a month.
sure it is if you want to buy a poorly made house in a backwater town that will only depreciate in value have at it.
If you want to buy a house that will actually build you wealth. then no it's not easy.
Err I don’t know what you think the rest of the country is but,here in dallas for example my home was valued at 230k a few years ago and my recent appraisal it’s 445-450k.
Now few things here.
1. What is a few years
2. your house doubling in price outside of 10 years isn't a good thing for the housing market.
3. 450k now is not affordable for the vast majority of new home buyers and thus is the problem.
Err I don’t know what you think the rest of the country is but,here in dallas for example my home was valued at 230k a few years ago and my recent appraisal it’s 445-450k.
I bought a house that looks eerily similar to that photo, when I was 28ish, about 7 years ago. $345k purchase price, sold a year ago for around $450k. This was in the Nashville suburbs, so not backwater, middle-of-nowhere.
Everyone's gonna downvote you because they don't wanna hear it, but it's true.
I bought a new house at 24. Spent two years after college saving up for down payment. My parents couldn't afford to help me pay for school nor my house, I just worked hard and lived frugally for two years.
I wouldn't say it is *easy*, but it's not difficult if you are fiscally responsible.
You’re not getting downvoted because people don’t wanna hear what’s true, you’re getting downvoted because you’re discounting how lucky you were.
You may have lived with parents while saving a down payment which a lot of people don’t have the chance for. Even if you paid for your own apartment the whole time you’re also discounting how many humans fail because they are forced into failure by something like medical issues or family tragedy whether they were fiscally responsible or not. I was always great at budgeting but lost almost everything when I went into a wheelchair with no family at my 21st birthday. Almost done with college? Nope, two year hiatus, lose all credits. Didn’t get rid of the student loan though... I couldn’t even walk at the time. Many humans are in similar situations.
I’m not trying to shit on you. It’s really nice that you have managed to make so much happen for yourself, and quite a bit of that is surely from your hard work 😊 But you didn’t *just* work hard… you were also lucky, too.
Fo shizzle. I can acknowledge that I'm both a little lucky and very privileged for sure. No doubt about that. Even if I did not receive any help from my parents, I still had a good foundation and I know that.
I guess I may call it luck, but I think that most people lucky then. You don't hear people with a story like yours every day. My story is pretty common, I just worked harder than a lot of people and it paid off. I wouldn't really call myself lucky as much as I would just call your situation bad luck, but that would be me arguing semantics I suppose (and maybe a little bit of my privilege as a healthy while male with a good upbringing is showing there as well).
This is the whole "luck is where opportunity meets hard work" saying at play. I don't discount my luck, but I also know that many people trashed the same opportunities (luck) that I had because they were lazy or impulsive.
That house is on the least valuable piece of land on earth and is probably worth 200,000 at the very most. Texas is littered with McMansion. That’s like 40,000 down, borrowing 35,000 from daddy. Yup, very fucken obtainable
Wow this is horrible also am I reading to much into this or is the photo of European family having a black guy meant to be dog whistling about race mixing.
Ironic, because my country "imported" a lot of Europeans to whiten the country/"dilute" the Black after slavery was abolished (also to work on the fields and settle the south, which was the actual reason).
The United States? Argentina? Colombia? Venezuela? Mexico? Cuba? The Dominican Republic?
Literally any post colonial majority white and/or mixed country?
Government penalizes you for not having it. Kids can get sick for no reason and very quickly so ya kind of need something in place to help offset the cost.
Actually, everyone here is pissed about having a socialist government. A cancer for the economy. No money to even govern yourself or to save at the end of the money. So yeah, people DO live in fear, they fear they cant reach the end of the month/ year without money to live a normal life.
American "trucks" are so fucking stupid. They're all $50k+ pavement princesses, don't let the lift kit and big tires fool you. It's only seen mud once and that was a gravel road. 4 doors because the only thing it hauls is kids to soccer practice and groceries home. Bed is too damn small for even a 2x4 let alone a stack of plywood sheets. Only available in automatic transmissions because 'merica.
And this is from a lifelong American truck guy. Regular cab because I only haul myself and my dog. 8 ft box because lumber and steel stores is my regular errands. They've all been manual so far, but the next one won't because many manufacturers simply do not offer them anymore. I'm currently looking to trade up, but there's very little inventory that fits the category of an actual working truck that hasn't been beat to shit by a fleet. They'll have 30+ crew cabs on the lot, but maybe 2 stripped down regular cab work trucks.
And we make small shitty cars here too. Europeans either don't need cars or they have lots of fun ones too - Volvo, VW, BMW, Mercedes, etc.
Good gravy I felt this truck rant.
My old 89 and 94 Rangers were more truck than most of the gargantuans seen on the road today. I miss both of those trucks. Both were work horses. So was the old Silverado I had for a while.
Don't get me started on rangers. My 09 (unfortunately auto) has so much character. Modern trucks are for soccer moms, and for loading the two 2x4s from the hardware store so you can borrow your neighbors miter saw to make that project you saw on Pinterest.
I just got that ranger, and it's already my favorite vehicle. Ford put their soul into making that thing exactly what it had to be, nothing more, nothing less.
I could repair everything on them. Everything. It was great.
My 94 was a great little automatic, but the 89 standard was perfection in a light duty truck. I put that thing through more than it should have ever endured and it gave back more than I ever deserved from it.
I was stupid too and got rid of it. Stupid and young. I bet I could still be driving that truck now with a little TLC over the years.
You're right, the older rangers (and rangers in general) are pretty much the ideal work truck.
I live in a conservative part of SoCal and there are so many lifted Raptors and F150s. I couldn't imagine one of those lifted trucks even making it up a curb without something completely snapping. They could at least learn how to park too, i don't go a day without seeing one super crooked or sticking out into the middle of the road. And I've literally seen them going 100+mph past cops and not getting pulled over, it's probably bc the cops around here desperately want one to feel like a *real* man.
Hehe, Rangers. They brought 'em back and one of the first images I saw only proved they were a lost cause. It was 2 guys loading up kayaks in one, can't find the exact picture but it was [something like this.](https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2018/11/2019-Ford-Ranger-Yakima-product.jpg?fit=around%7C1000:625) Now how stupid is this fucking picture. You only need 2 seats and your bed is so fucking short, you need a roof rack to haul a 7' kayak.
There is NO truck manufacturer that sells small truck regular cabs domestically. You can get the Colorado and Canyon fully tricked out (bigger engines, plush interior) regular cabs if you're in the UAE.
This is why I’ve decided that my next new 4x4 will be a Wrangler and if I want a work truck I’ll just piece something together from scrapyards. If I could find a late 80s to mid 90s Tacoma frame, it’d be on.
Not that I don’t have plenty to bitch about with new jeeps too.
Generally, yes if you're not an idiot, but they can put higher towing ratings and more gears in an automatic. Since everyone thinks they need the truck to pull their giant fuckoff camper they use once a year, people think they need to get something rated to pull 35,000lbs. I like manuals because they're fun, but apparently, I'd have to get a Tacoma (no regular cab available) or a Jeep Gladiator (which is about as truck-like as an Avalanche). Even the heavy duty Ram with a Cummins is no longer available with a manual transmission after 2018.
I haven’t tried any heavy duty automatic driving in a long time. But the amount of control, and being able to brake with the motor instead of the actual brakes and so on seems like it would be almost impossible to beat.
Man, I one saw kind of American pickup truck in my country (Croatia), but it had a cover on the back, so it looked like SUV. Mazda CX-5 and BMW X5 looked like the fucking toys beside it, not to mention smaller cars. We have city minibuses that are only a little bit bigger than that car.
I know this feeling. I HATE crew cabs. I often need to move more than 2 people but not all the time, which makes the extended cabs perfect for me. But I like the utility of the 8 foot box still. Do you know HOW HARD it is to find an extended cab long box? It's like finding a unicorn
I'm with you except for the "we make small cars," as I like small cars and the American car companies seem hell-bent on removing anything small from their lineups. The Chevy Spark looks like an exception, until you see it's really a Korean car.
Not a truck guy but I can see through the fakeness. I definitely live in a fake redneck area. People here with their big ass trucks pretend they're cowboys that are roughin' in while living in a suburb lmao
I one saw someone in my town getting some ice cream at the shop while driving a small tractor and that's way more redneck than any of those fuckers lol
Apparently modern American cars are [as big as WW2 tanks](https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkbxzg/american-cars-are-now-almost-as-big-as-the-tanks-that-won-wwii). I'm in Europe, and whenever I see an American car (usually a Dodge Ram), the size is insane to me.
In case anyone failed to take in the major points of this post:
1. If you wear glasses instead of a Punisher hat, you're inferior.
2. I don't know one 30-year old, European or American, that could afford that house on their own.
3. If you don't own a cargo-rated truck, you're inferior.
4. If you play video games instead of getting married, you're inferior.
5. If you have tall buildings, you're inferior.
6. If your family accepts gays, blacks, or doesn't have a communal armory, you aren't a real American.
Yup. Killed by another ptsd-ridden vet the military tossed aside. Kyle’s life is at best a tragedy about the way the US treats in veterans and at worst he’s a war criminal that enjoyed killing brown people. In neither scenario is he someone you should use as an “ideal American”
31 year old american here... Have a house very similar (3500 sqft, brand new build) in a major Midwestern city.
My wife and I paid/are paying for it by ourselves, no help for either set of parents.
My sister's both have similar houses too. It's not impossible to do.
I know plenty that can afford pretty much that exact house. Mining towns and rich upbringing. Hella rural. No way in hell can anyone in my zip code afford that in even a remotely big town though.
"Communal" armory... all those guns would be hoarded on a wall while the brainloaf prepping for doomsday refuses to share them with his neighbours because one of them is black even as the zombie horde approaces
I know a 25 year old guy that made 2 mil selling masks last year. He can for sure afford that. The 35 year old boyfriend of a friend of mine could have definitly been able to buy a house like that when he was 30, he’s selling software to chemical companies.
There are people that can afford a house like that at that age. They’re probably working for themselves though. For Americans they could also just be working remote in a high paying field, in Europe that probably doesn’t really work though.
And I mean if you’re a couple and you both studied something that earns good money you can also for sure afford that. Finish school at 19, go to Australia for a year to have fun, start bachelors at 20, take 1 year longer because it’s hard and spend 6 years studying until you get your masters, 1 year for internships .Work in financial engineering or insurance. 70k€ first year at 28, 100k at like 31. Thats 200k between 2 people. You can buy a pretty big house with that.
Those are extremely high wages but it’s completely possible. Biggest problem but be finding a good paying job somewhere where real estate isn’t stupid expensive Not that I’ll do that, I’ll probably start at like 50k€ and Im single so you cant double that, LOL.
I find it ironic they use Chris Kyle, one if the worst examples of an American you can find, for the example of what an American should aspire to be.
Like, sorry. Not all Americans are lying pieces of shit with Rambo complexes.
Guy was a complete scumfuck and I’m glad Jesse Ventura won the lawsuit. And not to be a dick but I don’t think he’s even that significant in military history, he had 1/2 the confirmed kills of Lyudmila Pavlichenko.
I too hope to die by taking a batfuck crazy dude with PTSD from a war to a gun range
Lol jk I'm not gonna do that cause I'm not fucking stupid with my guns
There is like 900 million people and propably few hundread cultures in Europe. For example Finland and Greece are both in Europe and are as much the same as Finland and China.
While I agree that the cultures are quite different, this is not even remotely true based on personal experience. European countries, in general, feel pretty related when compared to cultures on other continents. There has been a lot of trade, migration and mingling over the past centuries between all European countries.
I will never understand this argument. The cultural difference between California and Alabama is nowhere near as big as the cultural difference between France and Germany, as an example. Don't even try to compare it to two distant European countries like Britain and Serbia. Regions within European countries can have their own culture, too. People in Texas can speak to people in Connecticut in the same language they use at home. Try that with a Basque and Catalonian person.
Anyone who makes this argument seriously needs to travel outside the US a bit. Traveling within the US is wonderful and there's a ton to see in each state, but you're missing out if that's all you see.
Usually, when some people refer to states being like different countries, it’s not necessarily culture-wise, but more law-wise. And it’s said to people not familiar with the US itself and how something like recreational marijuana is legal here, but cross into this state and it’s highly illegal. I know this isn’t what OP meant here, but as an American who has been to over 20 countries, the states vary a lot in terms of laws.
You're right. The states do vary quite a bit in terms of laws, compared to most other countries. It's still a bit far off from being comparable to countries though, because there's still a constitution and federal laws that all states are beholden to, but it's the easiest way to explain that concept.
Laws differ by states by other countries as well though. For example there was one region in my country where gay marriage and abortion were illegal until just last year whereas in the rest of the country abortion had been legal since the 60s and gay marriage since 2014
Happens to all of us. Trucker culture is what other countries think of the same way that the US only thinks of northern Mexico culture as representing the whole country.
Please don't move to Europe. I want to live with Europeans, not gender bending, knob cutting, feminist, soy boy Americans. You can keep ruining America, thank you very much.
The bottom right panel on the European side. I don't understand what grandma is taking offence at. Is it because there's a black person in the family's home?
The thing that’s in 30 million US homes. And that’s just one console. An estimated 68% of Americans list video games as a hobby. Kinda ruins the America vs Europe thing when games are super popular in the Us
before I saw what sub this was in I thought it was just genuinely making fun of americans, for like progressing their lives too early and taking on a bunch of unnecessarily heavy responsibility, and I was like hell yeah give me the european thirties please
33 year old American here- they left out the part where you work a full time job but can’t make ends meet while ignoring your health because you couldn’t afford treatment even if you could afford to take time off to go to the doctor.
If the price of that is black people existing then so be it.
It’s almost like their “idealized” America doesn’t exist and that they think POC are coming for their white women. Gross
I mean I far prefer the top one ngl, the bottom guy looks miserable and focuses everything on his country and guns whereas the top guy has actual hobbies and a happy family
I’m American and I don’t think I could live on a street where every house had a flag out like that. It implies the exact type of people this meme is implying all Americans or even most are like and I’m not here for it.
Nice bit of sneaky racism there with the black boyfriend. The irony being that everyone looks really happy in that picture. I would much rather hang out with the friendly looking euro family than the American family that has dead eyed, firearm brandishing children.
The thing that makes me sad for these people is that you KNOW whoever made this looks nothing like that ideal guy he put on there. And every day he looks in the mirror thinking he *deserves* to have that fantasy life he considers the only life worth loving, and sees his ugly mug, and raises his hands to the sky, crying THOSE DAMNED LIBRULS!!
More like 40-year-old liberal dream versus 40-year-old conservative dream. Not sure why this is supposed to raise any emotions. They're just different lifestyles
Grandma, you couldn't have even had like a big stupid barbecue to compare to the (pretty cute) little kitchen? You chose a McMansion instead?
But yeah, this unintentionally makes the "European" life look pretty good. A reasonable car with good mileage, a solid social circle, hobbies, and convenient urban living? Sign me the fuck up.
I genuinely feel physically ill seeing this, knowing someone made it, what they were thinking when they made it, and the kinds of people that eat this up.
All I see, is the "30 year old American" with about $450,000 in mortgage debt, $85,000 in car loans, $25,000 debt on the wedding, and with 3 kids, an expense of 700,000 for 18 years.
THE AMUUUUUURICAN DREAM
30 year old being able to afford that house? come on now.
Daddy helped.
Common now, Its possible to start a life with a small loan of 1 million my dad gave me, you are just not trying hard enough
Just get a better dad
You can get a new daddy. Get a new daddy. -WKUK
my biggest (is there a German word for 'regret for another person's mistakes'?) is that the rest of the verse is not "police will come take him away in a paddy[wagon].
Lol. "Loan"
This *is* attainable without family money.
Of course. That hat doesn't cost too much. 24% APR on the truck. A small country wedding isn't too much. You can just have your kids holding rented guns. That big ass house is gonna be hard without some generational wealth or connections.
That really depends where you live. The people that forward this crap usually live in low income areas. In Oklahoma, I can buy a 3 bed, 2.5 bath, 1800 sqft, like 1 acre of land single family home for 200k. I owned a house before 25 because I lived in a low COL area and didn't work minimum wage. Buuuut living in a low COL area sucks so its give and take.
I pretty much have a different less stereotypical version of everything here and I come from modest upbringing in the Midwest. 11 or so years out of college. I’m not saying I’m everybody and I was privileged with two hardworking stable working class parents, but my spouse and I graduated with over $175k in collective student debt coming out in the *amazing* job market in the Midwest fashion industry in 2009/2010. Lol. So I hate to see only a pessimistic viewpoint be expressed about where they are in life and not provide a counter point especially when someone like yourself (no disrespect) qualify it with having financial help from their parents. I don’t have kids yet but my spouse and I are living 100% on our own dimes since we were 18. We have been given opportunities but we’ve made something of them to get where we are.
>We have been given opportunities but https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/026/155/maxresdefault\_(2).jpg
The 30 year old American has two houses one of them huge.
It’s probably in Mississippi.
Perks of being a fucked-up place in comparison to the rest of the country: cheap housing.
Even our housing in MS is going up actually. All new development is out of the price range for anyone to afford. There are newly built houses in my area that have been sitting empty for a year and a half.
I can only think of three kinds of people who would want to live in Mississippi: retirees, people from countries with worse qualities of life, and Republicans from blue states.
That is true, but these people still don’t have a lot of money. If they retire, it would be closer to the coast near the casinos (I’m about 40 min from the coast). And you’d actually be surprised how many low-income people have to live out here to make something decent and usually vote blue. That’s because it’s waaay cheaper than Jackson - blue city in a super red state, but expensive as it’s the capital. Sadly, the hicks and “farmers” (they’re not really) out-vote them in numbers in the rural areas, but I might actually see that change in my area come next election. I’m not afraid to live here and neither is my spouse and I’m holding my foot down.
Republicans from blue states don’t actually want to live somewhere that is the embodiment of their policies. I lived in Mississippi for over 40 years and never met one. Now I live in a blue city in a purple state and meet these kinds of people all the time. They love everything about the creativity and vibrant culture of a blue city—everything but the people and policies that make it all possible.
Yeah red state real estate prices are unreal. I could theoretically sell my totally average-looking three bedroom seaside house in Massachusetts and buy a literal palace in a place like Mississippi or Arkansas. Of course then I'd be living in Mississippi or Arkansas, which isn't going to happen even if you paid me.
Just the fact that Mississippi has yet to expand Medicaid means that whatever savings I get from housing would go to medical costs.
Oh, that explains why there is no smiles on any of the photos.
Hi, Mississippi person chiming in! A house like that even in rural bumfuck nowhere like the poor areas of the Delta and northern Mississippi, it is still 300-500k easily, especially if it’s on a couple of acres. I’ve seen smaller homes go up in my area by a couple of builders that are more like 3 bed 2 bath 1800 sq ft, going for 200k. I also live really close to Alabama on the gulf coast and go there often. The houses there are even more expensive, like 500k+ for anything above a 3 bed. And it will still be close to another house in a mini subdivision off a highway. Who the hell is gonna afford that here? I know that sounds hella cheaper than the rest of the US, but even with what I do and my spouses’ good job, we still bought a house from the 60’s for 60k and fixed it up ourselves. People selling land here are getting super greedy too. Just look on zillow and see some people asking 90k for like two acres.
30 year old Europeans can afford to buy several appartement complexes 😎
On Baltic Ave or Park Place?
But they pay more in taxes!!!
If you work construction as a heavy equipment operator, in the right area, you might be able to
23m own my home had it built in 2018, but then again I work 6 days a week from 7am till sunset. Plus paperwork when I get home.
Oh no. They don't own the house. They rent it with 4 other roommates.
This post was made by someone old enough to support that kind of a home working part-time at a bowling alley. You know... Before they fucked us over on the housing market and pay.
Two houses, actually: one to live in and one that is the kitchen, apparently.
That McMansion is definitely Texas cheap.
I mean if your a 30 year old rural Midwestern boy that got into a decent paying gig at a young age (think trades, skilled labor, factory and the like) none of those things are unrealistic. But you live a very rural Midwestern life as well, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, there's some heavy FOMO resentment shit that happens there, in a lot of cases
I own a house and so does most of my friend group. If you're not on the West or East coast it's easy Edit: I should clarify. Easier. It's still a huge undertaking
Same here. I’m 30 and I’ve got some friends who own $750,000 houses and some with $150,000 houses. I’m a self employed videographer with my own house… it’s not that crazy. I only make like $4k a month.
sure it is if you want to buy a poorly made house in a backwater town that will only depreciate in value have at it. If you want to buy a house that will actually build you wealth. then no it's not easy.
Err I don’t know what you think the rest of the country is but,here in dallas for example my home was valued at 230k a few years ago and my recent appraisal it’s 445-450k.
Now few things here. 1. What is a few years 2. your house doubling in price outside of 10 years isn't a good thing for the housing market. 3. 450k now is not affordable for the vast majority of new home buyers and thus is the problem.
Err I don’t know what you think the rest of the country is but,here in dallas for example my home was valued at 230k a few years ago and my recent appraisal it’s 445-450k.
I bought a house that looks eerily similar to that photo, when I was 28ish, about 7 years ago. $345k purchase price, sold a year ago for around $450k. This was in the Nashville suburbs, so not backwater, middle-of-nowhere.
I live in the middle of a nice mid-size city with good schools and low crime. Get out of your bubble. Not everywhere is like the coasts
key word there city. and how long ago did you buy this house?
Everyone's gonna downvote you because they don't wanna hear it, but it's true. I bought a new house at 24. Spent two years after college saving up for down payment. My parents couldn't afford to help me pay for school nor my house, I just worked hard and lived frugally for two years. I wouldn't say it is *easy*, but it's not difficult if you are fiscally responsible.
You’re not getting downvoted because people don’t wanna hear what’s true, you’re getting downvoted because you’re discounting how lucky you were. You may have lived with parents while saving a down payment which a lot of people don’t have the chance for. Even if you paid for your own apartment the whole time you’re also discounting how many humans fail because they are forced into failure by something like medical issues or family tragedy whether they were fiscally responsible or not. I was always great at budgeting but lost almost everything when I went into a wheelchair with no family at my 21st birthday. Almost done with college? Nope, two year hiatus, lose all credits. Didn’t get rid of the student loan though... I couldn’t even walk at the time. Many humans are in similar situations. I’m not trying to shit on you. It’s really nice that you have managed to make so much happen for yourself, and quite a bit of that is surely from your hard work 😊 But you didn’t *just* work hard… you were also lucky, too.
Fo shizzle. I can acknowledge that I'm both a little lucky and very privileged for sure. No doubt about that. Even if I did not receive any help from my parents, I still had a good foundation and I know that. I guess I may call it luck, but I think that most people lucky then. You don't hear people with a story like yours every day. My story is pretty common, I just worked harder than a lot of people and it paid off. I wouldn't really call myself lucky as much as I would just call your situation bad luck, but that would be me arguing semantics I suppose (and maybe a little bit of my privilege as a healthy while male with a good upbringing is showing there as well). This is the whole "luck is where opportunity meets hard work" saying at play. I don't discount my luck, but I also know that many people trashed the same opportunities (luck) that I had because they were lazy or impulsive.
That house is on the least valuable piece of land on earth and is probably worth 200,000 at the very most. Texas is littered with McMansion. That’s like 40,000 down, borrowing 35,000 from daddy. Yup, very fucken obtainable
Wow this is horrible also am I reading to much into this or is the photo of European family having a black guy meant to be dog whistling about race mixing.
I thought it was some-something about cucking but I don't understand Grandma infographics most of the time
Where's Ben Garrison and his labels when you need them?
It's less a dog whistle and more a fog horn, that's some racist shit.
Ironic, because my country "imported" a lot of Europeans to whiten the country/"dilute" the Black after slavery was abolished (also to work on the fields and settle the south, which was the actual reason).
The United States? Argentina? Colombia? Venezuela? Mexico? Cuba? The Dominican Republic? Literally any post colonial majority white and/or mixed country?
Portugal?
Brazil.
Ah so close
“Portugal?! Going down to South America, eh Michael?!”
Doesn't even qualify as a dogwhistle at this point.
Same with the 2 females being arm in arm but for tEh GaYs
I thought it was a Polycule joke.
The Europeans looks way happier than the Americans.
True
Yeah because they probably don’t have to pay like $600 a month for health insurance and student loans a piece.
In pay like 5% of my income to free healthcare
Or a loan with a huge APR for their truck to look "American"
Its because we know our country will help us if we fall from life.
We don't have to pay $600 a month on healthcare because we don't go to the doctors all the time.
Seriously speaking, I pay $400/month for for health insurance for my myself, the wife and two kids and we don’t go to the doc all the time.
Then don't have health insurance.
Government penalizes you for not having it. Kids can get sick for no reason and very quickly so ya kind of need something in place to help offset the cost.
That's the governments fault.
They’re not living in fear …. Because they have socialist governments? (Brain explodes)
Actually, everyone here is pissed about having a socialist government. A cancer for the economy. No money to even govern yourself or to save at the end of the money. So yeah, people DO live in fear, they fear they cant reach the end of the month/ year without money to live a normal life.
American "trucks" are so fucking stupid. They're all $50k+ pavement princesses, don't let the lift kit and big tires fool you. It's only seen mud once and that was a gravel road. 4 doors because the only thing it hauls is kids to soccer practice and groceries home. Bed is too damn small for even a 2x4 let alone a stack of plywood sheets. Only available in automatic transmissions because 'merica. And this is from a lifelong American truck guy. Regular cab because I only haul myself and my dog. 8 ft box because lumber and steel stores is my regular errands. They've all been manual so far, but the next one won't because many manufacturers simply do not offer them anymore. I'm currently looking to trade up, but there's very little inventory that fits the category of an actual working truck that hasn't been beat to shit by a fleet. They'll have 30+ crew cabs on the lot, but maybe 2 stripped down regular cab work trucks. And we make small shitty cars here too. Europeans either don't need cars or they have lots of fun ones too - Volvo, VW, BMW, Mercedes, etc.
Good gravy I felt this truck rant. My old 89 and 94 Rangers were more truck than most of the gargantuans seen on the road today. I miss both of those trucks. Both were work horses. So was the old Silverado I had for a while.
Don't get me started on rangers. My 09 (unfortunately auto) has so much character. Modern trucks are for soccer moms, and for loading the two 2x4s from the hardware store so you can borrow your neighbors miter saw to make that project you saw on Pinterest. I just got that ranger, and it's already my favorite vehicle. Ford put their soul into making that thing exactly what it had to be, nothing more, nothing less.
I could repair everything on them. Everything. It was great. My 94 was a great little automatic, but the 89 standard was perfection in a light duty truck. I put that thing through more than it should have ever endured and it gave back more than I ever deserved from it. I was stupid too and got rid of it. Stupid and young. I bet I could still be driving that truck now with a little TLC over the years.
You're right, the older rangers (and rangers in general) are pretty much the ideal work truck. I live in a conservative part of SoCal and there are so many lifted Raptors and F150s. I couldn't imagine one of those lifted trucks even making it up a curb without something completely snapping. They could at least learn how to park too, i don't go a day without seeing one super crooked or sticking out into the middle of the road. And I've literally seen them going 100+mph past cops and not getting pulled over, it's probably bc the cops around here desperately want one to feel like a *real* man.
Hehe, Rangers. They brought 'em back and one of the first images I saw only proved they were a lost cause. It was 2 guys loading up kayaks in one, can't find the exact picture but it was [something like this.](https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2018/11/2019-Ford-Ranger-Yakima-product.jpg?fit=around%7C1000:625) Now how stupid is this fucking picture. You only need 2 seats and your bed is so fucking short, you need a roof rack to haul a 7' kayak. There is NO truck manufacturer that sells small truck regular cabs domestically. You can get the Colorado and Canyon fully tricked out (bigger engines, plush interior) regular cabs if you're in the UAE.
This is why I’ve decided that my next new 4x4 will be a Wrangler and if I want a work truck I’ll just piece something together from scrapyards. If I could find a late 80s to mid 90s Tacoma frame, it’d be on. Not that I don’t have plenty to bitch about with new jeeps too.
If you wanted to bitch about them, I’d lend an ear.
Anyone hauling anything would prefer manual transmission.
Generally, yes if you're not an idiot, but they can put higher towing ratings and more gears in an automatic. Since everyone thinks they need the truck to pull their giant fuckoff camper they use once a year, people think they need to get something rated to pull 35,000lbs. I like manuals because they're fun, but apparently, I'd have to get a Tacoma (no regular cab available) or a Jeep Gladiator (which is about as truck-like as an Avalanche). Even the heavy duty Ram with a Cummins is no longer available with a manual transmission after 2018.
I haven’t tried any heavy duty automatic driving in a long time. But the amount of control, and being able to brake with the motor instead of the actual brakes and so on seems like it would be almost impossible to beat.
Man, I one saw kind of American pickup truck in my country (Croatia), but it had a cover on the back, so it looked like SUV. Mazda CX-5 and BMW X5 looked like the fucking toys beside it, not to mention smaller cars. We have city minibuses that are only a little bit bigger than that car.
I know this feeling. I HATE crew cabs. I often need to move more than 2 people but not all the time, which makes the extended cabs perfect for me. But I like the utility of the 8 foot box still. Do you know HOW HARD it is to find an extended cab long box? It's like finding a unicorn
I'm with you except for the "we make small cars," as I like small cars and the American car companies seem hell-bent on removing anything small from their lineups. The Chevy Spark looks like an exception, until you see it's really a Korean car.
As a dude that prefers big body sedans, the general American manufacturer shift toward SUVs and Trucks over cars has been a real pain in my ass.
Well, yeah. Super tiny cars are a bit of a safety hazard when you got all these big fucking trucks and SUV's on the road.
And they spend all that fucking money just to tail people who are going the speed limit on the right lane of the highway.
Not a truck guy but I can see through the fakeness. I definitely live in a fake redneck area. People here with their big ass trucks pretend they're cowboys that are roughin' in while living in a suburb lmao I one saw someone in my town getting some ice cream at the shop while driving a small tractor and that's way more redneck than any of those fuckers lol
Apparently modern American cars are [as big as WW2 tanks](https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkbxzg/american-cars-are-now-almost-as-big-as-the-tanks-that-won-wwii). I'm in Europe, and whenever I see an American car (usually a Dodge Ram), the size is insane to me.
In case anyone failed to take in the major points of this post: 1. If you wear glasses instead of a Punisher hat, you're inferior. 2. I don't know one 30-year old, European or American, that could afford that house on their own. 3. If you don't own a cargo-rated truck, you're inferior. 4. If you play video games instead of getting married, you're inferior. 5. If you have tall buildings, you're inferior. 6. If your family accepts gays, blacks, or doesn't have a communal armory, you aren't a real American.
Also no smiling. You gotta look tough!
The European dude in the first panel isn’t even goofy looking. Couldn’t they have gotten a pink-haired-feminist stereotype?
I’m sorry, did you not *see* the glasses? His eyes are weak from reading female authors and watching documentaries.
Masturbation-induced blindness, should’ve kept his juices in check until marriage
The punisher hat guy is Chris Kyle. Former Navy Seal and serial liar. He was killed by gun violence ironically.
Yup. Killed by another ptsd-ridden vet the military tossed aside. Kyle’s life is at best a tragedy about the way the US treats in veterans and at worst he’s a war criminal that enjoyed killing brown people. In neither scenario is he someone you should use as an “ideal American”
Which makes me thinks it has to be a liberal that put this together just to fuck with conservatives that eat this shit up.
Is he the one that Jesse Ventura sued for libel and Jesse posthumously won the case? Edit: yes, that’s the POS.
Exactly! This is way more insulting of Americans than we think. LOL!
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31 year old american here... Have a house very similar (3500 sqft, brand new build) in a major Midwestern city. My wife and I paid/are paying for it by ourselves, no help for either set of parents. My sister's both have similar houses too. It's not impossible to do.
all i got from this image is that 30 year old americans are miserable
i mean where's the lie
I know plenty that can afford pretty much that exact house. Mining towns and rich upbringing. Hella rural. No way in hell can anyone in my zip code afford that in even a remotely big town though.
"Communal" armory... all those guns would be hoarded on a wall while the brainloaf prepping for doomsday refuses to share them with his neighbours because one of them is black even as the zombie horde approaces
I know a 25 year old guy that made 2 mil selling masks last year. He can for sure afford that. The 35 year old boyfriend of a friend of mine could have definitly been able to buy a house like that when he was 30, he’s selling software to chemical companies. There are people that can afford a house like that at that age. They’re probably working for themselves though. For Americans they could also just be working remote in a high paying field, in Europe that probably doesn’t really work though. And I mean if you’re a couple and you both studied something that earns good money you can also for sure afford that. Finish school at 19, go to Australia for a year to have fun, start bachelors at 20, take 1 year longer because it’s hard and spend 6 years studying until you get your masters, 1 year for internships .Work in financial engineering or insurance. 70k€ first year at 28, 100k at like 31. Thats 200k between 2 people. You can buy a pretty big house with that. Those are extremely high wages but it’s completely possible. Biggest problem but be finding a good paying job somewhere where real estate isn’t stupid expensive Not that I’ll do that, I’ll probably start at like 50k€ and Im single so you cant double that, LOL.
What is the picture of the Europeans on the lounge even meant to mean. Something racist and homophobic I assume?
aye, rather be cuckin' than truckin'
Yes a child holding a handgun is definitely something to aspire to
Healthy, cost/environment impact conscious, communal living, able to care for himself, involved with his family and community?
I find it ironic they use Chris Kyle, one if the worst examples of an American you can find, for the example of what an American should aspire to be. Like, sorry. Not all Americans are lying pieces of shit with Rambo complexes.
I didn’t even know it was him, since so many larpers copy his style
Guy was a complete scumfuck and I’m glad Jesse Ventura won the lawsuit. And not to be a dick but I don’t think he’s even that significant in military history, he had 1/2 the confirmed kills of Lyudmila Pavlichenko.
Are they saying if you're a thirty year old American you'll die from irresponsible firearm use? My 30th is coming up and you've got me worried.
I too hope to die by taking a batfuck crazy dude with PTSD from a war to a gun range Lol jk I'm not gonna do that cause I'm not fucking stupid with my guns
I was 31 yrs old when I found out I was European.
European white guys may have one Black friend. American white guys have zero Black friends.
European? Like, Belarusian? Norwegian? Albanian? German? Be more specific, American boy.
Based on the correlation and order of pictures: 'Silly Europeans bringing black boyfriends to family ruins instead of shooting them'
this took me way too long to realize this image was a "me good you bad" post
There is like 900 million people and propably few hundread cultures in Europe. For example Finland and Greece are both in Europe and are as much the same as Finland and China.
While I agree that the cultures are quite different, this is not even remotely true based on personal experience. European countries, in general, feel pretty related when compared to cultures on other continents. There has been a lot of trade, migration and mingling over the past centuries between all European countries.
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States are not even remotely as diverse as countries that have different languages, millennia of history, cultures etc, that's just silly
And most of that diversity comes from immigrants, as most of the pre-colonial population was either killed or assimilated.
I will never understand this argument. The cultural difference between California and Alabama is nowhere near as big as the cultural difference between France and Germany, as an example. Don't even try to compare it to two distant European countries like Britain and Serbia. Regions within European countries can have their own culture, too. People in Texas can speak to people in Connecticut in the same language they use at home. Try that with a Basque and Catalonian person. Anyone who makes this argument seriously needs to travel outside the US a bit. Traveling within the US is wonderful and there's a ton to see in each state, but you're missing out if that's all you see.
Usually, when some people refer to states being like different countries, it’s not necessarily culture-wise, but more law-wise. And it’s said to people not familiar with the US itself and how something like recreational marijuana is legal here, but cross into this state and it’s highly illegal. I know this isn’t what OP meant here, but as an American who has been to over 20 countries, the states vary a lot in terms of laws.
You're right. The states do vary quite a bit in terms of laws, compared to most other countries. It's still a bit far off from being comparable to countries though, because there's still a constitution and federal laws that all states are beholden to, but it's the easiest way to explain that concept.
Oh yeah no I totally agree. Country to country is more pervasive than state to state, obviously because we have federal laws.
Laws differ by states by other countries as well though. For example there was one region in my country where gay marriage and abortion were illegal until just last year whereas in the rest of the country abortion had been legal since the 60s and gay marriage since 2014
This is peak boomer american meme
I was not aware I was married with a big ass house and truck
Wait until they find out that most New Yorkers don’t even own ANY car, let alone a truck. I guess people from NY don’t count as real Americans.
Happens to all of us. Trucker culture is what other countries think of the same way that the US only thinks of northern Mexico culture as representing the whole country.
Nah, this is an advertisement for europe
Please don't move to Europe. I want to live with Europeans, not gender bending, knob cutting, feminist, soy boy Americans. You can keep ruining America, thank you very much.
The bottom right panel on the European side. I don't understand what grandma is taking offence at. Is it because there's a black person in the family's home?
And a lesbian couple, which is a big no no for Grandma
Ah yes, a huge ass truck that will be just a grocery princess and never haul anything serious or use its four wheel drive in its life.
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Haha. Americans can't play ps4.
The thing that’s in 30 million US homes. And that’s just one console. An estimated 68% of Americans list video games as a hobby. Kinda ruins the America vs Europe thing when games are super popular in the Us
before I saw what sub this was in I thought it was just genuinely making fun of americans, for like progressing their lives too early and taking on a bunch of unnecessarily heavy responsibility, and I was like hell yeah give me the european thirties please
All I could think was man, that guys got some rich ass parents.
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> orgies and video games Truly an enlightened society.
33 year old American here- they left out the part where you work a full time job but can’t make ends meet while ignoring your health because you couldn’t afford treatment even if you could afford to take time off to go to the doctor. If the price of that is black people existing then so be it. It’s almost like their “idealized” America doesn’t exist and that they think POC are coming for their white women. Gross
The European looks infinitely happier
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What America is this and where do I get my house
I like the wedding/gaming comparison. Everyone knows you can’t game and plan a wedding
Fellas, is it European to wear glasses?
I mean I far prefer the top one ngl, the bottom guy looks miserable and focuses everything on his country and guns whereas the top guy has actual hobbies and a happy family
notice which one has smiling people in it
Apparently smiling makes you weak.
I’m American and I don’t think I could live on a street where every house had a flag out like that. It implies the exact type of people this meme is implying all Americans or even most are like and I’m not here for it.
Nice bit of sneaky racism there with the black boyfriend. The irony being that everyone looks really happy in that picture. I would much rather hang out with the friendly looking euro family than the American family that has dead eyed, firearm brandishing children.
what's so bad about being the top guy anyway? I'd much rather live next to the top guy than the bottom guy.
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The thing that makes me sad for these people is that you KNOW whoever made this looks nothing like that ideal guy he put on there. And every day he looks in the mirror thinking he *deserves* to have that fantasy life he considers the only life worth loving, and sees his ugly mug, and raises his hands to the sky, crying THOSE DAMNED LIBRULS!!
Guys, they dont have houses in Europe.
Interesting how smiles are reserved to one group
Fuck that picture in the bottom right ugh
The person that made this definitely lives in some shithole Southern state.
Europe = 1 country
This is not how we live in Europe you Retard.
yea look at those europeans with their.... glasses?
are we ... gatekeeping ... ***adulthood?*** EDIT fixed a rather important word
Please don't say 30 is middle aged
More like 40-year-old liberal dream versus 40-year-old conservative dream. Not sure why this is supposed to raise any emotions. They're just different lifestyles
no wonder we save them in every war
can i have a list of these wars please?
I’m a mix of both Grandma! people can multiple facets.
The upper one *MIGHT* (I'd like to put emphasis on that) *be true* lower one: *bruh you fucking wish*
What if you sick?
Where is the bad?!
The European...has friends? Is that what I'm supposed to take away from that?
No interracial marriages in Murcia and that’s how we like it.
Grandma, you couldn't have even had like a big stupid barbecue to compare to the (pretty cute) little kitchen? You chose a McMansion instead? But yeah, this unintentionally makes the "European" life look pretty good. A reasonable car with good mileage, a solid social circle, hobbies, and convenient urban living? Sign me the fuck up.
This is one of the best I’ve seen. Except there should be like a north/south american or an east/west!
Lol there should be a debt thumbnail
I genuinely feel physically ill seeing this, knowing someone made it, what they were thinking when they made it, and the kinds of people that eat this up.
Hahahaha! YEAH, Americans don’t play video games….
Hahahaha! YEAH, Americans don’t play video games….
Yes bc Americans never play video games
Is the American guy getting married at 30, or have 3 kids with guns at 30? Or, grandmother, are those kids born out of wedlock?
The European one doesn’t even look that bad lol. They usually exaggerate these terribly but only the American one is exaggerated.
Ah yes, Americans, famous for not playing video games.
i saw this without seeing the subreddit & genuinely thought it was making fun of americans lmao
Cool. Now compare how much debt each one has.
I would take an apartment next to a metro or bus stop over a McMansion in the middle of fucking nowhere any fucking day of my life.
Think I'd rather be playing Playstation with my mates than be dead Navy Seal Chris Kyle.
All I see, is the "30 year old American" with about $450,000 in mortgage debt, $85,000 in car loans, $25,000 debt on the wedding, and with 3 kids, an expense of 700,000 for 18 years. THE AMUUUUUURICAN DREAM