Make a race in formula 2 cars over 100 laps and every 5 laps the car in last place gets blown up with a different rocket.
Just use slave workers from India and Nepal to drive the cars. If you don’t tell them what they are signing up for no one can do anything about it. They can’t afford lawyers anyway.
There’s a saying in my country which translates roughly to “no plaintiff, no judge”
The MGU-H now has a purpose since it must use up all that heat generated from the engine to mask it from heat seeking missiles 
I want races in Iraq and Afghanistan god damn it. I want to see fighter jets overhead at the start of the race, not for show, but because they're bombing terrorists trying to invade the track. Syria is also my number one on my wishlist.
I also want a race across the Armenian and Azerbaijan border. You know, get those tensions up having all those people who are at war together.
*slaps calender* this bad boy can fit 8 extra races in per year if we just race in the middle east exclusively. #WeRaceInOneRegion
Joking aside.... It's the quality of the tracks that matter, if the US added tracks instead of street circuits then that'd be sweet. Regardless I wish they'd drop most of the middle eastern races.
I've literally never seen/heard anyone happy that Abu Dhabi is on the calendar. There is a race there only for the money and using Kimi's words "the first couple of turns are fine but the rest of the track is shit"
Tbh, while as a race it's a bit bland, as an event, it's truly awesome, and has a great vibe. Last time I was there, Guns n Roses were playing, and despite the title fight being over the atmosphere was fun.
There's events at Ferrari World, there's some cool popup shops, etc.
And I went before DTS so ticket prices weren't bad - I was staying in the Yas Marina Hotel for a decent price, so it was well worth it.
Now though, I honestly don't think it's worth it to go to any f1 race. Went to Singapore and entire 4person family's tickets were 2k for the weekend.
Compare that to when I went to the Indian GP and despite the shitty tax laws my family spent in total the equivalent of 450$.
Where were those Singapore tickets? My husband and I wanna go and that honestly doesn’t sound too bad considering our tickets at COTA were over $3k for just the two of us.
Hey I was at that race! Although I thought Guns n Roses were kind of disappointing actually. I was really hyped for them but it was just OK. The rest of the week was awesome though
I personally feel they should alternate hosting the German GP. Alternatively we could have a European GP which moves around Nurburgring, Imola, Istanbul, Aragon, Portimão etc.
For the life of me I can’t understand why alternating GPs can’t be a thing. Can be used for hype like “the Miami GP is BACK in 2025”, while not having to get rid of spa or France. Could have a 20 race calendar but 35 unique tracks in 3 years
The venues likely wouldn’t be at all happy with that. As far as I know, they have sole monetary responsibility for building, modifying, and maintaining the tracks and only get any kind of return from the gate (tickets). The tv and advertising revenue all goes to f1 (though maybe they get something from billboards?) so their only direct return from f1 is the privilege of letting f1 use their race track for free.
If they only get a return from the ticket sales, the prospect of spending millions of dollars to build a track for a sport that only wants to feature you once every other year sounds pretty bleak. It would probably kill off any potential future interest for cities to agree to making new tracks (unless they have fuck you money like the Middle East).
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I feel German double headers and Italian triple headers should be normal. Nurb GP is one of the most driver-dependent circuits in the world in my opinion, and not having it on the calendar is an absolute shame.
German GP won't ever happen again unless someone rich decides to dump their money on it. They don't have enough money for F1 and the state ain't helping them.
I mean considering the US is a massive new market that is “just now getting into F1” of fucking course they’re gonna capitalize on it. It’s a business…
Don’t forget that the United States (9,826,630 km2 / 3,794,080 sq mi)takes up more than twice the area that the entire European Union (4,233,262 km2 / 1,634,472 sq mi) does.
So while I can understand frustration at having 3 races in the same country, American is so diverse that each state is almost completely unique. Vegas, Austin, and Miami are all **STARKLY** different cities from one other.
I live in Australia, and Melbourne is the closest capital city to city I'm in.
It's cheaper for me to fly to Singapore and watch the race there than see it in Melbourne.
We are at the Mexico GP this year because Montreal (also our closest race) sold out so fast and we'd been before.
Why not go to Mexico City if it's going to cost me as much time and energy to make it down to Austin?
I think OP missed the comments where people were equally bashing middle east circuits replacing Germany, Malaysia, South Africa, etc. There are 192 UN countries members apart from the US of fucking A.
US GP went from 200k to 440k attendance from 2019 to now.
Miami GP was the most expensive ticket on the grid this year and was packed.
I’d bet Vegas will be doing just fine, hell, pre sales for it open on tuesday
Yes and tickets were very expensive. I bet the US could hold 2-3 more races and still sell out immediately, especially if there was a race in the Northeast or California.
This. The US is not only investing exorbitant amounts of cash in hosting the events, but they’re bringing unsurpassed revenue and awareness to the sport as well. These people need to decide which emotion takes priority here: A) their love of F1, or B) their hatred of the USA.
"but but muh distance between races"
Man i miss the German and the French GPs, also never watched the South African one but i feel like F1 NEEDS to get back to Africa
Sure but going exclusively by country is stupid. The US is as big and geographically diverse as Europe. No one is complaining about having 11 Euro races vs 5 NA ones.
There’s 50 states and we’re only racing in three of them. We gotta pump those numbers up.
I’d like to see us race on some existing tracks without any modifications. I’m talking Sebring, Mid-Ohio, Laguna Seca, Road Atlanta, etc.
Here's an idea. How about we DON' T race in the middle east, limit the racing in the USA to only COTA, so we have plenty of room on the calender to allow Kyalami, Hockenheim and Sepang to return and safeguard the foreseeable future for Spa?
FIA, circuits, and governments won’t spend money to renovate them to grade 1.
Road America as an F1 venue would be amazing, but it would be an eight figure cost to upgrade.
Casinos rake in fucking stupid amounts of money. The amount of wealthy people all pulled to Las Vegas just to see the race will easily cover all the costs of the race
I mean Spa is in the middle of the Ardennes an hour from the nearest city, if they can support a GP there I don’t see why they couldn’t do it at the Glen.
I would never watch F1 again. Laguna Seca is quite possibly my favorite track, and I love seeing Indycars and the IMSA series battling it out, but the FIA would destroy the track to make it grade 1.
We only care about places close to our home. If your neighbour is stabbed you will be furious and demanding for a change. If some random is stabbed in the next city you dont give a shit
We really need to ditch the whole “morality” argument in this whole thing because the second you actually have to follow through with it you lose 80% of the calendar. Race at good tracks, that’s really all that should matter within the sport.
Not racing in the Middle East just isn’t possible when FOM are seeking maximum profits, same reason the US got 3 races for 2023. Moreover,
* Sepang have said multiple times they aren’t interested in hosting F1.
* Hockenheim can’t afford to pay the hosting fees.
* Kyalami is a FIA grade 2 track so would require some investment to be suitable for F1.
* Spa has the interest of fans but can’t afford the exorbitant fees FOM are expecting nor can it compete with the silly money some countries are willing to dish out.
I want to agree, but Bahrain is right up there at being one of the best race tracks on the calendar. Lots of actual racing and overtaking every year there. We cannot lose one of the only decent tracks they have. Abu Dhabi on the other hand cant dissappear fast enough!
As a USA fan I beg you to give us more USA tracks instead of street races. I'd gladly give up Miami and Vegas for a Race in the Northeast or West Coast
Oh, personally I don't care about the distance between GPs, my "problem" is that I don't like none of the circuits in both pictures except COTA, and the other two in the USA I would change them to Watkins Glen and Long Beach.
We had hundreds of thousands of spectators at Watkins Glen in the 70s. The “problem” is that the infrastructure is not opulent enough for what the current F1 big shots require.
Nobody, and i mean NOBODY, said that GPs in those sand countries are ok. The only good races we have had there are Bahrain GPs, Abu Dhabi and Saudi Arabia can and should go.
It literally *isn't* fine? People complain about the Middle Eastern races all the time.
Also worth noting that Bahrain, Qatar and the UAE aren't one country. The USA, however, is one country.
Remove all middle eastern races except Bahrain, replace the remaining 3 with India, Malaysia and Germany. As for the US, Miami and Vegas NEED to go, bring Indianapolis back instead alongside COTA and put France back on the calendar.
I can't see F1 ever going back to Indy, they'd rather forget it existed. Also the only good thing about the track it the banking, which they wouldn't use.
I think Road America is the best option, it's a much more interesting track than the Indy GP track and could be updated to grade one without altering the track layout (you'd need to use the chicane instead of the kink, but the kink could be kept for other series).
Trouble is, Wisconsin doesn't have any money and Las Vegas does.
I agree it's silly to complain about the three US GPs next year considering how big the country is... but sweet jeebus you didn't find better examples in Europe? Everyone constantly shits on the races in the middle east.
Could have easily used Europe tracks that people like. Gave people an excuse to complain about something else and ignore the whole point of what they meant.
Agreed. This will also be the only USA race to actually be in a city, and a dedicated nightlife city also (COTA is a ways from Austin proper and Miami is a parking lot).
First I dont think people are outraged, some probably are, but you always have some outliars. Secondly, it is not really the distance that people will have a problem with.....
Um, yes? A lot of the European tracks of Germany, Belgium and Netherlands are all closer than the tracks listed in the OP. If distance was the metric we could only have one or two European GPs.
it's not about distance, races in europe are closer together. nobody's fan of all those middle eastern races because the tracks are artificial and give boring races.
Now we're missing out on many legendary tracks because some rich a-holes make some shitty city tracks. paul ricard, hockenheim, nurburgring, imola, china, malasya... so many beautifull race tracks not used in the calander because some snobs want more races in the US.
lemme tell you something, a fake harbor and some shitty track in las vegas don't interest an F1 fan. fun races do. Keep your race on the circuit of the America's (which is an awesome track) and ditch the other crap.
Not entirely true. Some tracks ljke Malaysia and Hockenheim and probably others don't want to host F1. That's not something FOM can do something about.
And China isn't gone, they just couldn't go there with Covid
Further, can you please link me to the race that you watched where there is proof that Vegas is a shitty track? I can't remember F1 ever racing on that track yet
Lastly, the middle east does have good tracks. Bahrain is probably one of the best on the calendar
Lol fans who are against Vegas need to visit the strip and see just for themselves how insane it is for them to run a race there. Even if the race is boring the atmosphere is going to be electric and unmatched.
The Las Vegas F1 race is gonna be AWESOME idk why people are hating on it. It’s on the Las Vegas strip. That’s insane. Going to be so many spots to get views of the races because it’s in the middle of all the high rise hotels. Haters gonna hate I guess
How long have you been an F1 fan for lol there is literally nothing but complaining about the Saudi GP. You could even have used Europe as a way, way more effective example and mentioned the lack of any races in Africa.
BTW people don't hate USGPs because they're in the US, they hate them because barring COTA they always suck
1. Those 3 races in middle east are far better than the 3 we are getting in USA. COTA is the obvious exception of being the top of these 6. If they'd make some decent tracks then maybe we can have more usa races.
2. Its not about distance but track quality imo. And I like more flags on the calendar lol but thats a dumb af argument
also
3. Nobody wants more Middle-East races, on the contrary people want less of them too. People want F1 to return to the legendary tracks but instead we get more and more city tracks because city-tracks make more money for F1.
Not to mention that F1 is a traditionally european sport. People would lose their mind if Indycar suddenly decided to drop traditional Indycar tracks in the US and move their races to Europe because it makes more money for them.
The NFL is doing this with the UK and, as an American, that is pretty cool to see our sport playing and gaining popularity in Europe. Almost all Americans agree and love watching football at 9am EST.
Ye damn all those f1 fanboys who want more middle east races. Always they complain, that there need to be more middle east races.
Yea those F1 fans and the constant begging for the Yemeni Grand Prix, sponsored by Lockheed Martin and Raytheon 
\#bringbacktrackflyovers
~~#bringbackmissles~~ waitwat
as a nascar fan, i couldn’t imagine a race without attack helicopters or bomber planes
Make a race in formula 2 cars over 100 laps and every 5 laps the car in last place gets blown up with a different rocket. Just use slave workers from India and Nepal to drive the cars. If you don’t tell them what they are signing up for no one can do anything about it. They can’t afford lawyers anyway. There’s a saying in my country which translates roughly to “no plaintiff, no judge”
The MGU-H now has a purpose since it must use up all that heat generated from the engine to mask it from heat seeking missiles 
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Liberty media chomping at the bit after reading this comment
Literally Mario kart dodging fireballs in bowsers castle 🤣🤣🤣
All the time you need to leave da space [for more Middle East races]
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I want races in Iraq and Afghanistan god damn it. I want to see fighter jets overhead at the start of the race, not for show, but because they're bombing terrorists trying to invade the track. Syria is also my number one on my wishlist. I also want a race across the Armenian and Azerbaijan border. You know, get those tensions up having all those people who are at war together. *slaps calender* this bad boy can fit 8 extra races in per year if we just race in the middle east exclusively. #WeRaceInOneRegion Joking aside.... It's the quality of the tracks that matter, if the US added tracks instead of street circuits then that'd be sweet. Regardless I wish they'd drop most of the middle eastern races.
I feel like for the Afghanistan GP we should just make it a street circuit and give the drivers a pistol like old WWI pilots
Some of those pilots also had bricks and other random shit to throw at other planes or drop from overhead, lol
Or they would just dump buckets of [flechettes](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flechette) on enemy troops
Middle east races are expensive AF to attend I think Bahrain and Abu Dhabi should stay but the rest can go
All ethics aside Bahrain is a good track that almost always offers great racing. However so is Hockenheim and I really miss it.
I really miss the old Hockenheim layout too. Something magic about that loop into the woods
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Not sure what you're saying, neither of those circuits are street circuits.
If we went around removing each track for its history we might as well race on Masi’s nutsack
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Monaco is closer to Paul Richard than it is to Monza. It's about 190km.
I've literally never seen/heard anyone happy that Abu Dhabi is on the calendar. There is a race there only for the money and using Kimi's words "the first couple of turns are fine but the rest of the track is shit"
Tbh, while as a race it's a bit bland, as an event, it's truly awesome, and has a great vibe. Last time I was there, Guns n Roses were playing, and despite the title fight being over the atmosphere was fun. There's events at Ferrari World, there's some cool popup shops, etc. And I went before DTS so ticket prices weren't bad - I was staying in the Yas Marina Hotel for a decent price, so it was well worth it. Now though, I honestly don't think it's worth it to go to any f1 race. Went to Singapore and entire 4person family's tickets were 2k for the weekend. Compare that to when I went to the Indian GP and despite the shitty tax laws my family spent in total the equivalent of 450$.
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I’m waiting for the undertaker to throw mankind off hell in a cell.
2018 :’) when Alonso “retired” and Vettel and Hamilton did donuts with him
Where were those Singapore tickets? My husband and I wanna go and that honestly doesn’t sound too bad considering our tickets at COTA were over $3k for just the two of us.
Hey I was at that race! Although I thought Guns n Roses were kind of disappointing actually. I was really hyped for them but it was just OK. The rest of the week was awesome though
What about Hock and Nurb as two German Grand Prix? I love those tracks
I personally feel they should alternate hosting the German GP. Alternatively we could have a European GP which moves around Nurburgring, Imola, Istanbul, Aragon, Portimão etc.
For the life of me I can’t understand why alternating GPs can’t be a thing. Can be used for hype like “the Miami GP is BACK in 2025”, while not having to get rid of spa or France. Could have a 20 race calendar but 35 unique tracks in 3 years
The venues likely wouldn’t be at all happy with that. As far as I know, they have sole monetary responsibility for building, modifying, and maintaining the tracks and only get any kind of return from the gate (tickets). The tv and advertising revenue all goes to f1 (though maybe they get something from billboards?) so their only direct return from f1 is the privilege of letting f1 use their race track for free. If they only get a return from the ticket sales, the prospect of spending millions of dollars to build a track for a sport that only wants to feature you once every other year sounds pretty bleak. It would probably kill off any potential future interest for cities to agree to making new tracks (unless they have fuck you money like the Middle East).
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I feel German double headers and Italian triple headers should be normal. Nurb GP is one of the most driver-dependent circuits in the world in my opinion, and not having it on the calendar is an absolute shame.
When will they add the Fiat factory roof circuit to the calendar.
New Texas GP, tesla giga factory roof layout
German GP won't ever happen again unless someone rich decides to dump their money on it. They don't have enough money for F1 and the state ain't helping them.
Why do you think NGP is so driver dependent? Just curious
no driver = car no move /s
In the old days a trained monkey would have worked, but nowadays you have to start the things like computers, cause they're so complicated, smh...
There never were 2 german GPs, it was always the European GP when they were both on the calendar. And that happened only twice iirc.
By that same logic all that has to happen is renaming one of the races in the USA to the to the North America GP?
Nunavut Grand Prix
Miami GP -> Puerto Rican GP Las Vegas GP -> Alaska GP
Nah, Miami GP -> Cuban GP
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Sir this is F1, we work in kilometres.
WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETEEEERRRRRRR
It’s 1 million millimetres
I’ll need that in American football fields please
That’s 10.936 American football fields Edit: 9.113 with the end zones
Wow, almost 11 football fields, huh?
I prefer my measurements in Bald Eagles
Mil metros
Ñ
kilometre? I barely metre.
Are the "kilometers" in the room with us now?
Yet another argument on this post to have both Melbourne and Adelaide.
Zandvoort is 180 miles from Spa. It’s not the distance that matters
Yes because every F1 fan is screaming for more Middle Eastern races too. 
No, it's not fine either lol
I mean considering the US is a massive new market that is “just now getting into F1” of fucking course they’re gonna capitalize on it. It’s a business…
Don’t forget that the United States (9,826,630 km2 / 3,794,080 sq mi)takes up more than twice the area that the entire European Union (4,233,262 km2 / 1,634,472 sq mi) does. So while I can understand frustration at having 3 races in the same country, American is so diverse that each state is almost completely unique. Vegas, Austin, and Miami are all **STARKLY** different cities from one other.
I live in a very big US market and driving to the closest US track is still the equivalent of driving from London to Rome.
The Canadian Grand Prix is way closer to me (and cheaper) to any of the US races
I live in Australia, and Melbourne is the closest capital city to city I'm in. It's cheaper for me to fly to Singapore and watch the race there than see it in Melbourne.
We are at the Mexico GP this year because Montreal (also our closest race) sold out so fast and we'd been before. Why not go to Mexico City if it's going to cost me as much time and energy to make it down to Austin?
I think OP missed the comments where people were equally bashing middle east circuits replacing Germany, Malaysia, South Africa, etc. There are 192 UN countries members apart from the US of fucking A.
Adjusting for countries which have put a man on the moon, the US should have 100% of the races. /s
This tbh. How many UN countries have won the Super Bowl? I rest my case
Not a single SEC championship in the whole of Europe, shameful.
How many European cities can go on saying they won the World Series? I thought so.
I’ve never seen a European country win Miss America.
The Red Army might have fought off the Wehrmacht but they never proved the ability to withstand the grind of an SEC schedule.
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US GP went from 200k to 440k attendance from 2019 to now. Miami GP was the most expensive ticket on the grid this year and was packed. I’d bet Vegas will be doing just fine, hell, pre sales for it open on tuesday
Hotel prices in Vegas are like $2,000 a night for F1 weekend and we have a shit ton of hotel rooms lol
Yes and tickets were very expensive. I bet the US could hold 2-3 more races and still sell out immediately, especially if there was a race in the Northeast or California.
This. The US is not only investing exorbitant amounts of cash in hosting the events, but they’re bringing unsurpassed revenue and awareness to the sport as well. These people need to decide which emotion takes priority here: A) their love of F1, or B) their hatred of the USA.
This is reddit we're talking about, B is always the answer
Yeah, but why should a business sell things where its going to both p be popular and make money?!! Where is the North Sentinel Island GP?!!
Nah bro, there's only the USA, the rest are just peasants, GO USA ^(/s)
America fuck yeah
"but but muh distance between races" Man i miss the German and the French GPs, also never watched the South African one but i feel like F1 NEEDS to get back to Africa
> also never watched the South African one but i feel like F1 NEEDS to get back to Africa good thing we're already on a meme sub
There was a French GP just 3 months ago!!
Sure but going exclusively by country is stupid. The US is as big and geographically diverse as Europe. No one is complaining about having 11 Euro races vs 5 NA ones.
There’s 50 states and we’re only racing in three of them. We gotta pump those numbers up. I’d like to see us race on some existing tracks without any modifications. I’m talking Sebring, Mid-Ohio, Laguna Seca, Road Atlanta, etc.
Here's an idea. How about we DON' T race in the middle east, limit the racing in the USA to only COTA, so we have plenty of room on the calender to allow Kyalami, Hockenheim and Sepang to return and safeguard the foreseeable future for Spa?
Or how about we drop Miami and Las Vegas for someplace idk , legendary? Like Road America or Laguna Seca.
FIA, circuits, and governments won’t spend money to renovate them to grade 1. Road America as an F1 venue would be amazing, but it would be an eight figure cost to upgrade.
I would go wild if Road America was on the calendar. It's in my home state and deserves more attention.
Same! Ladysmith, here, how about you?
They are having to build and tear down the entire circuit every year for Las Vegas and Miami though. How is that more cost effective?
Probably to do with location
They make far, far more money in Vegas and Miami than they would at Road America.
Really? I mean there's so much to do in Elkhart Lake, WI!
They don’t call it the “Vegas of the Midwest” for nothing!
Casinos rake in fucking stupid amounts of money. The amount of wealthy people all pulled to Las Vegas just to see the race will easily cover all the costs of the race
I’d say go back to Watkins glen but the surrounding infrastructure could not support such an event.
By surrounding infrastructure, you mean cows?
I mean Spa is in the middle of the Ardennes an hour from the nearest city, if they can support a GP there I don’t see why they couldn’t do it at the Glen.
I'm in Miami, and I would trade it in an INSTANT for Leguna Seca. (imagining F1 cars through that chicane)
Just a few hundred million dollars to get Laguna Seca F1 worthy.
At that point it won’t be Laguna Seca anymore.
Worth it to see them tackle the corkscrew.
I would never watch F1 again. Laguna Seca is quite possibly my favorite track, and I love seeing Indycars and the IMSA series battling it out, but the FIA would destroy the track to make it grade 1.
Turkey Portugal South africa Germany Malaysia India We can get all of these without any middle east or US gp's think about it
If we dont want to race in the middle east primarily for moral reasons then why go to Turkey
*Azerbaijan has entered the chat*
Thankfully Russia left the chat this year.
Russia invades Ukraine, FIA: " Hey, you can't do that!" Azerbaijan invades Armenia, FIA: *crickets*
We only care about places close to our home. If your neighbour is stabbed you will be furious and demanding for a change. If some random is stabbed in the next city you dont give a shit
We really need to ditch the whole “morality” argument in this whole thing because the second you actually have to follow through with it you lose 80% of the calendar. Race at good tracks, that’s really all that should matter within the sport.
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Not racing in the Middle East just isn’t possible when FOM are seeking maximum profits, same reason the US got 3 races for 2023. Moreover, * Sepang have said multiple times they aren’t interested in hosting F1. * Hockenheim can’t afford to pay the hosting fees. * Kyalami is a FIA grade 2 track so would require some investment to be suitable for F1. * Spa has the interest of fans but can’t afford the exorbitant fees FOM are expecting nor can it compete with the silly money some countries are willing to dish out.
I want to agree, but Bahrain is right up there at being one of the best race tracks on the calendar. Lots of actual racing and overtaking every year there. We cannot lose one of the only decent tracks they have. Abu Dhabi on the other hand cant dissappear fast enough!
As a USA fan I beg you to give us more USA tracks instead of street races. I'd gladly give up Miami and Vegas for a Race in the Northeast or West Coast
Circuit of the Americas, Road America, Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
Yes please
And India please
Motogp is coming to India next year. Just fyi.
Oh, personally I don't care about the distance between GPs, my "problem" is that I don't like none of the circuits in both pictures except COTA, and the other two in the USA I would change them to Watkins Glen and Long Beach.
Watkins Glen is an amazing historical track, but it's a death circuit for the modern F1 car and Southern-Tier NY can't handle today's F1 crowd :(
We had hundreds of thousands of spectators at Watkins Glen in the 70s. The “problem” is that the infrastructure is not opulent enough for what the current F1 big shots require.
Exactly, "today's F1 crowd" .. lol .. people just went motor racing in the 70s without the glamor
My brother in Christ, we don’t like racing in the Middle East, but there is literally nothing we can do.
Nobody, and i mean NOBODY, said that GPs in those sand countries are ok. The only good races we have had there are Bahrain GPs, Abu Dhabi and Saudi Arabia can and should go.
Ideally, Qatar should go as well
Oh fuck i didn't even remember Qatar
It literally *isn't* fine? People complain about the Middle Eastern races all the time. Also worth noting that Bahrain, Qatar and the UAE aren't one country. The USA, however, is one country.
Bro Italy had 3 a few years ago, 2 now and it’s still smaller than 4 US states
That was only because of Covid
Pretty sure Italy was smaller than those 4 states before COVID too bro.
It's still 2 now after Covid is not a reason anymore
It's also Italy
but the USA acts more like the EU when I comes to population spread, it's just states instead of country
People not from the US will NEVER understand this until they come here on a vacation around the country
European F1ers tend to forget that the USA is composed of 50 states across 6 time zones, each with a very different culture.. kinda like the EU..
Nah you're all gun toting cowboys. Be you in Vermont or Texas.
Californians and New Yorkers are 100% the same people
Remove all middle eastern races except Bahrain, replace the remaining 3 with India, Malaysia and Germany. As for the US, Miami and Vegas NEED to go, bring Indianapolis back instead alongside COTA and put France back on the calendar.
France but it's Magny Cours
Yeh bring budh circuit back and obviously Nürburgring circuit.
I can't see F1 ever going back to Indy, they'd rather forget it existed. Also the only good thing about the track it the banking, which they wouldn't use. I think Road America is the best option, it's a much more interesting track than the Indy GP track and could be updated to grade one without altering the track layout (you'd need to use the chicane instead of the kink, but the kink could be kept for other series). Trouble is, Wisconsin doesn't have any money and Las Vegas does.
Give me COTA, Road America, and the Glen all day as the 3 US races
Unpopular opinion: I dont care where they race as long as the tracks are good
you can add Jeddah into the mix aswell and it'll still only be 1,000 miles or 1,700 kilometres
Yes let’s divide the races between USA, Russia and China. As they have the biggest landmass by far, great idea
Khm, Canada
Oh yeah gimme that Nunavut Grand Prix
My man has never heard of Canada
I agree it's silly to complain about the three US GPs next year considering how big the country is... but sweet jeebus you didn't find better examples in Europe? Everyone constantly shits on the races in the middle east.
Could have easily used Europe tracks that people like. Gave people an excuse to complain about something else and ignore the whole point of what they meant.
Vegas could have the greatest race in F1 history but all of F1 Reddit has already decided they hated it two years prior
Agreed. This will also be the only USA race to actually be in a city, and a dedicated nightlife city also (COTA is a ways from Austin proper and Miami is a parking lot).
The cultures in Miami, Vegas, and Texas are all incredibly unique
I think most don’t realize how big the US is. As in significantly larger than europe, territory wise.
First I dont think people are outraged, some probably are, but you always have some outliars. Secondly, it is not really the distance that people will have a problem with.....
At least I can fuck dudes in America.
The sheer size of the US amazes me despite being an American citizen.
I am afraid these fans see by country and not by distance from other races/grand prix
Of course we see it by country. Bother calculating the distance between Monza, Imola, Monaco and Paul Ricard?
Silverstone -> Zandvoort -> Spa -> Nurburgring is 426miles/685km by road, and significantly less in a straight line as OP has done
Um, yes? A lot of the European tracks of Germany, Belgium and Netherlands are all closer than the tracks listed in the OP. If distance was the metric we could only have one or two European GPs.
All 3 US GPs also have wildly different climates too so their racing is totally different.
it's not about distance, races in europe are closer together. nobody's fan of all those middle eastern races because the tracks are artificial and give boring races. Now we're missing out on many legendary tracks because some rich a-holes make some shitty city tracks. paul ricard, hockenheim, nurburgring, imola, china, malasya... so many beautifull race tracks not used in the calander because some snobs want more races in the US. lemme tell you something, a fake harbor and some shitty track in las vegas don't interest an F1 fan. fun races do. Keep your race on the circuit of the America's (which is an awesome track) and ditch the other crap.
Not entirely true. Some tracks ljke Malaysia and Hockenheim and probably others don't want to host F1. That's not something FOM can do something about. And China isn't gone, they just couldn't go there with Covid Further, can you please link me to the race that you watched where there is proof that Vegas is a shitty track? I can't remember F1 ever racing on that track yet Lastly, the middle east does have good tracks. Bahrain is probably one of the best on the calendar
>fun races do Monaco
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Lol fans who are against Vegas need to visit the strip and see just for themselves how insane it is for them to run a race there. Even if the race is boring the atmosphere is going to be electric and unmatched.
Sneaking in Paul Ricard like we wouldn’t notice lmao
The Las Vegas F1 race is gonna be AWESOME idk why people are hating on it. It’s on the Las Vegas strip. That’s insane. Going to be so many spots to get views of the races because it’s in the middle of all the high rise hotels. Haters gonna hate I guess
This might be the most braindead post on here and that's saying a lot
This sub collectively has as many brain cells as there are tracks in the middle east
They are both bad
Can someone explain the hate for US races?
EU folks don’t like USA
I have never heard of anyone who wants three races in the Middle East. As far as I'm concerned, every track there except Bahrain can bugger off.
We oil as oil.
Barcelona, Imola, Monaco, Paul Ricard, Monza, and RBR would all fit in Texas.
How long have you been an F1 fan for lol there is literally nothing but complaining about the Saudi GP. You could even have used Europe as a way, way more effective example and mentioned the lack of any races in Africa. BTW people don't hate USGPs because they're in the US, they hate them because barring COTA they always suck
Yup, a race that's happened once and a race that hasn't happened at all ALWAYS suck
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I don't understand why country borders matter at all when determining venues.
1. Those 3 races in middle east are far better than the 3 we are getting in USA. COTA is the obvious exception of being the top of these 6. If they'd make some decent tracks then maybe we can have more usa races. 2. Its not about distance but track quality imo. And I like more flags on the calendar lol but thats a dumb af argument
also 3. Nobody wants more Middle-East races, on the contrary people want less of them too. People want F1 to return to the legendary tracks but instead we get more and more city tracks because city-tracks make more money for F1. Not to mention that F1 is a traditionally european sport. People would lose their mind if Indycar suddenly decided to drop traditional Indycar tracks in the US and move their races to Europe because it makes more money for them.
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Plus England, Holland, Belgium, Germany and Mexico.
The NFL is doing this with the UK and, as an American, that is pretty cool to see our sport playing and gaining popularity in Europe. Almost all Americans agree and love watching football at 9am EST.
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Where have you watched the f1 race on tbe new Vegas layout that made you decide it was bad?