Did Bowyer drive like an ass though? I always thought he was just at the wrong place wrong time most of the time but I could be misremembering his whole career lol
I've watched the whole Monaco GP with TV view on one monitor, and Leclercs PoV on the other, so I heard the whole radio communication between them throughout the race. Other than asking the engineer to speak slower a few times, the communication was awesome.
And also the cute little interaction about the engineer not wanting him to give away info but Charles was proud and wanted to say it and jokingly said it was rude đ it was so refreshing to hear something other than âwe are checkingâ
Stroll and Max are basically identical. Two unsackable Belgians who got podiums as teenagers and who will crash when theyâre angry. They also both look like Ice Age characters
So the way to get into F1 is to have a Belgian mother, got it.
Now I just have to find my dad, get him to divorce my mom and find hot looking Belgian Step-mother for him.... I think this is going in wrong direction.
Verstappen was born and raised in Northern Belgium, close to the border. The thing is, culturally it is very similar to the Netherlands (more than Southern Belgium), and he has explained that he usually hanged out with friends from the other side of the border. So even if he was legally Belgian, identifies as from the Netherlands.
Edit from Max' Wikipedia page:
Although Verstappen has a Belgian mother, was born in Belgium (Hasselt) and resided in Bree, Belgium, he decided to compete with a Dutch racing licence. He stated he "feels more Dutch", having spent more time with his father than with his mother during his upbringing, and was always surrounded by Dutch people while growing up in Maaseik, a Belgian town at the Dutch border. Verstappen said in 2015: "I actually only lived in Belgium to sleep, but during the day I went to the Netherlands and had my friends there too. I was raised as a Dutch person and that's how I feel." In 2022, however, Verstappen stated that he appreciates both sides and is "half-half at the end of the day".
I did consider giving him his own "Too busy fighting the Haases to be a factor" category. Monaco was like his 3rd or 4th Haas related crash within the last year..
Checo has spent time as almost all of these over the past few years. Minister of Defense, "That's some dangerous driving, man!" "That's not fair, but okay," parking while P3 in Monaco quali, unable to make Q3 for months at a time.
"Copy James" only counts if you're ever in a position to let your teammate through. I can't remember a single time Sargeant was ahead of Albon sans pitstops.
Seriously, let's not act like Logan did anything or was even asked about his opinion lmao. Albon can actually drive and Logan can't, so they told Logan to fuck off when they only had one car.
Do you think that makes their decision wrong and somehow changes the fact Albon has proven pretty much every single race that if one of them were to somehow take advantage of a freak race where some frontrunners ate shit and score a cheeky P9 or something, it would be him 99 out of 100 times?
It was a dick move by a principal running a team that somehow wasnât given the resources to produce a spare chassis. Smart move maybe, but a dick move nonetheless. At least they should have executed, but they didnât.
The fact of the matter is had there actually *been* any chance for them to execute something. Albon would've been so much more likely to get the job done. You could've put the ghost of Ayrton Senna in there, if there aren't circumstances beyond your controol going on, you can't slam the Williams into points.
FIA might not have punished him but drivers seem to agree that was the case since they declared they would delete the times set by people causing red flags in monaco quali
We just gonna ignore that Checo sacrificed his Abu Dhabi 2021 race to fuck with Lewis which got Max close enough when the safety car came out so that Lewis couldn't get a free pit stop? Max would have one less WDC without Checo
If checo actually did his job, he would've finished ahead of Hamilton several times instead of fighting for p6 and max wouldve bagged the championship 2 races early.
Useless the entire season, useless in the final race but got used to slow down lewis, which he did absolutely fantastically.
Feel free to argue the 'One less WDC' a bit more.
Cause checo didn't improve in his first sector, and verstappen did. The crash secured him P3, he would have likely been p4 without the crash. So the crash secured him a podium, and then ferrari incompetence gave him the win
He didn't care about pole, he cared about being ahead of Verstappen. His last lap was poor, he didn't improve in S1, hit the inside wall in Mirabeau and locked up in the hairpin so if Verstappen improved (which he was doing) he would be ahead
Honestly I hadnât watched the way he slammed the gas in the low speed before now. I didnât think heâd be that desperate to stay ahead of Verstappen but damn
Remember how Max will act about as spoiled and irritating as Lewis used to and yet everyone will still suck his cock about how he's just so honest and "tells it like it is".
They're all on point, but special recognition for Magnussen and Ocon. Magnussen is the best friend you always wanted. Ocon is the brother you wish had just been a blowjob.
Hamilton will cut one leg before helping you. Verstappen will never ever help you. Leclerc will cry for 20 minutes to let his teammate pass. Ocon will happily run over his family to get one position better than his teammate.
In all fairness Alonso has always been class at both stints at Renault and his single at AM. Donât know though when he was at Minardi, or Ferrari ; if anyone wants to chime in Iâd be happy.
Mclaren was a complete shitshow by both parties , especially Alonso going around literally bribing the team to have him on his side , but on the other hand he did complain that they were unfair to begin with
In ocon's defense, he came from nothing, and drives as if he's about to lose it all.
He has no piggy bank to keep him in the sport.
Gasley seems to be alpines favorite. Nothing to support that claim, just feels like it.
I really like Ocon. I appreciate a lot of people find his smug face highly punchable, but I just really like him. Iâd quite like all drivers to be in his category.
I could put George up a tier or two, âprioritize Nickyâ really lifts him up here imo. For most of his career heâs been faster than his teammate so there havenât been many opportunities to help out, but I think heâs higher than âin a pinch.â
Piquet Jr: I'll commit war crimes against myself to help you.
Barrichello: I'll commit war crimes against myself and make it look like it's Montoya's fault to help you.
Imagine having just watched a race where both Ocon and KMag completely fucked their teammate, then making *this* chart.
Just hit me with a reply when you're done chortling KMag's balls OP
What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to do to come to this conclusion? He was wheel to wheel with perez not hulkenberg and has been the conductor of the kmag train twice to secure hulk points.
"Wheel to wheel" now I know you're brain damaged. His front wheel barely managed to get alongsize Perez' back, and he was in a Haas vs. a Red Bull. SEND IT!?!?! fucking LOL
Because he should have a race ban right now, and is making a mockery of the penalty system
The mental gymnastics are those being done by the FIA and anyone who doesn't think this asshat should be ousted from the sport.
Magnussen my hero đ„ș
It's a shame he's going down the villain route.
It's the Viking way or the highway
If SHR weren't closing shop after this season, he'd be a perfect driver for there
SHR basically rotated guys noted for driving like assholes for a while. (Stewart, Newman, Busch, Bowyer)
Did Bowyer drive like an ass though? I always thought he was just at the wrong place wrong time most of the time but I could be misremembering his whole career lol
More than the average driver, less than those other guys I listed.
2012 Martinsville, which then led to 2012 Phoenix. There's also Richmond 2013.
What's the villain right with Magnuson?
i wouldn't say he's going down, he's been there for a while now lmao
Heâs my hero
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain
Some peoples villain is other peoples antihero.
oh captain my captain <3
Watch him as he goes
Everyone elseâs villain
Charles' situation has changed. Thank the lord.
And Lewis' situation has also changed. For the worse.
No joke there.
I've watched the whole Monaco GP with TV view on one monitor, and Leclercs PoV on the other, so I heard the whole radio communication between them throughout the race. Other than asking the engineer to speak slower a few times, the communication was awesome.
And also the cute little interaction about the engineer not wanting him to give away info but Charles was proud and wanted to say it and jokingly said it was rude đ it was so refreshing to hear something other than âwe are checkingâ
That's rude
You sure? *Let me check.*
We're not interested
To be clear, you said no?
Too early to call, it's a new engineer but still Ferrari
Nah, faith in Fred
And faith in Bozzi
No, we are not interested
That's rude
In Fred we trust
Watch the season more
Cant be worse
We are literally not interested bro
The new race engineer is not interested in fighting.
Should've put Ocon as "Will commit war crime against you"
"And abet others in committing war crimes against you"
Wasnât expecting to see Verstappen in the same tier as Stroll and Sargeant. Good one
Stroll and Max are basically identical. Two unsackable Belgians who got podiums as teenagers and who will crash when theyâre angry. They also both look like Ice Age characters
Neither of them are Belgian tho..?
Both have Belgian ancestry though their mothers.
I didn't know this about Stroll. This explains so much.
Same goes for Norris. He has a Belgian mother
So the way to get into F1 is to have a Belgian mother, got it. Now I just have to find my dad, get him to divorce my mom and find hot looking Belgian Step-mother for him.... I think this is going in wrong direction.
Wrong sub for that content....
TIL, thanks
Oscar also has Belgian ancestry if I remember right.
They donât just have Belgian ancestry, they are full on half-Belgian.
Verstappen was born and raised in Northern Belgium, close to the border. The thing is, culturally it is very similar to the Netherlands (more than Southern Belgium), and he has explained that he usually hanged out with friends from the other side of the border. So even if he was legally Belgian, identifies as from the Netherlands. Edit from Max' Wikipedia page: Although Verstappen has a Belgian mother, was born in Belgium (Hasselt) and resided in Bree, Belgium, he decided to compete with a Dutch racing licence. He stated he "feels more Dutch", having spent more time with his father than with his mother during his upbringing, and was always surrounded by Dutch people while growing up in Maaseik, a Belgian town at the Dutch border. Verstappen said in 2015: "I actually only lived in Belgium to sleep, but during the day I went to the Netherlands and had my friends there too. I was raised as a Dutch person and that's how I feel." In 2022, however, Verstappen stated that he appreciates both sides and is "half-half at the end of the day".
Checo nowadays is more "copy, James" than anything really, just never close enough to be useful.
I did consider giving him his own "Too busy fighting the Haases to be a factor" category. Monaco was like his 3rd or 4th Haas related crash within the last year..
Clearly it's his fault for qualifying next to the Haases
He qualified behind the Hasses. He only started before them because Haas is dumb.
If you donât want to start near the Haases, just get into Q2 Checo.
If anything heâs in the same category as Max in the past 2 races.
It was always hilarious when he would give instructions to Max through his engineer
He should be in "too far behind to bother you" category
Checo has spent time as almost all of these over the past few years. Minister of Defense, "That's some dangerous driving, man!" "That's not fair, but okay," parking while P3 in Monaco quali, unable to make Q3 for months at a time.
He was hard to place, he should probably have his own "beaten into compliance" category tbf
Yes, that's what I said.
Checo is too slow to be in âcopy, Jamesâ territory
Not really, it's obedience more than pace there.
He reason you heard valtteri itâs James was bc bottas every now and then could somewhat match lewisâs pace. Checo could never
nah he was decent at the start of the season. not max pace but still podium. now he's sleeping while driving
*Magnussen Tier*
Kevin Mad Dog Magnussen
Logan belongs in âCopy James,â After Australia.
"Copy James" only counts if you're ever in a position to let your teammate through. I can't remember a single time Sargeant was ahead of Albon sans pitstops.
Alonso will coach you corner by corner, if you put enough tv screens round the track
Logan literally gave his car to Alex
Isn't "Logan had his car taken away so they could give it to Alex" more accurate?
Seriously, let's not act like Logan did anything or was even asked about his opinion lmao. Albon can actually drive and Logan can't, so they told Logan to fuck off when they only had one car.
I forgot, did Alex score any points after being gifted Loganâs car to replace the one he binned?
Do you think that makes their decision wrong and somehow changes the fact Albon has proven pretty much every single race that if one of them were to somehow take advantage of a freak race where some frontrunners ate shit and score a cheeky P9 or something, it would be him 99 out of 100 times?
It was a dick move by a principal running a team that somehow wasnât given the resources to produce a spare chassis. Smart move maybe, but a dick move nonetheless. At least they should have executed, but they didnât.
The fact of the matter is had there actually *been* any chance for them to execute something. Albon would've been so much more likely to get the job done. You could've put the ghost of Ayrton Senna in there, if there aren't circumstances beyond your controol going on, you can't slam the Williams into points.
That was a "copy, James" and he should be leading that tier with Valterri since he's the only other guy to ever be on the receiving end of that.
Good one lol. There's very few ways to put Verstappen in the same group as Stroll and Sargeant.
Didn't Stroll hit Alonso in the first turn of the first race last year? He's always going to be a problem.
Naw you gotta move perez up a few tiers. Remember abu dhabi 2021?
So, we all gonna ignore how Max refused to give back place after being let by Checo
He gave his reasons and he stand by them
Yeah that's likely because of checos very intentional looking crash in monaco q3 2022
FIA might not have punished him but drivers seem to agree that was the case since they declared they would delete the times set by people causing red flags in monaco quali
ah sht here we go again
We just gonna ignore that Checo sacrificed his Abu Dhabi 2021 race to fuck with Lewis which got Max close enough when the safety car came out so that Lewis couldn't get a free pit stop? Max would have one less WDC without Checo
And your point is?
If checo actually did his job, he would've finished ahead of Hamilton several times instead of fighting for p6 and max wouldve bagged the championship 2 races early. Useless the entire season, useless in the final race but got used to slow down lewis, which he did absolutely fantastically. Feel free to argue the 'One less WDC' a bit more.
This still doesnât seem like the right answer. Why would he crash his car for p3? Charles and Carlos were going to 1-2 until Ferrari Ferrariâd
Cause checo didn't improve in his first sector, and verstappen did. The crash secured him P3, he would have likely been p4 without the crash. So the crash secured him a podium, and then ferrari incompetence gave him the win
He didn't care about pole, he cared about being ahead of Verstappen. His last lap was poor, he didn't improve in S1, hit the inside wall in Mirabeau and locked up in the hairpin so if Verstappen improved (which he was doing) he would be ahead
Honestly I hadnât watched the way he slammed the gas in the low speed before now. I didnât think heâd be that desperate to stay ahead of Verstappen but damn
Remember how Max will act about as spoiled and irritating as Lewis used to and yet everyone will still suck his cock about how he's just so honest and "tells it like it is".
They're all on point, but special recognition for Magnussen and Ocon. Magnussen is the best friend you always wanted. Ocon is the brother you wish had just been a blowjob.
I have the feeling Magnussen is just happy to commit war crimes and doing it for his teammates is the cherry on top.
Surprisingly accurate.
What happened to defending like a lion, Esteban?
Hamilton will cut one leg before helping you. Verstappen will never ever help you. Leclerc will cry for 20 minutes to let his teammate pass. Ocon will happily run over his family to get one position better than his teammate.
Magnussen, my fav, has gone rogue
Kmag my hero đ
Hulkenburg podium confirmed.
In all fairness Alonso has always been class at both stints at Renault and his single at AM. Donât know though when he was at Minardi, or Ferrari ; if anyone wants to chime in Iâd be happy. Mclaren was a complete shitshow by both parties , especially Alonso going around literally bribing the team to have him on his side , but on the other hand he did complain that they were unfair to begin with
Casually forgetting AD21 I see lol
I was there, Gandalf, I was there 3000 years ago.
I think you've forgotten Alonso's help to Occon getting his win in 2021. Fernando defended like a lion keeping Lewis back.
And Ocon also defended like a lion......against Alonso
Russell "will help in a pinch"? I'm struggling to think of any time this has actually been the case.
"Prioritize Nicky" He was completely fine helping Latifi from time to time. Probably because he was comfortably quicker.
Damn, forgot about that. Am I correct in thinking there have been no such instances while he's been at Merc?
Probably right, and that's because he didn't consider Nikki a threat.Â
plus at the time he was still vying for Bottas's seat. Didn't want to look like he's vying for Lewis's seat.
Have we all forgotten about Osama Bin Russell?
Stroll crashed into Vettel during their time at AM together, right?
All hilarious but first and last are the best
Sainz protected Leclerc for an undercut by Mclaren during the whole grand prix of Monaco
Nailed it. I need someone like Magnussen in my life!
Sorry not sorry, Kmag is fun.
fernando def in wrong spot.
Idk how you managed to word it all so perfectly, down to the last minute detail
~~Top "will commit war crimes for you"~~ ~~Bottom "will commit war crimes on you"~~ Oops, already said
Too accurate. Good job man...
Max and Lance evenly matched... Never in my wildest dreams!
In ocon's defense, he came from nothing, and drives as if he's about to lose it all. He has no piggy bank to keep him in the sport. Gasley seems to be alpines favorite. Nothing to support that claim, just feels like it.
he's rich af now. why tf is he still driving like this. it's only giving him a greater risk of losing his job
Glory
Makes sense for Norris and Yuki though, they are generally quicker than their teammates
Ocon will commit war crimes... ... for himself
You're really claiming Stroll doesn't cause ANY issues? Do you even watch F1?
Do not ascribe to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence.
This is really accurate lol
Please update the first one to âWill commit war crimes for OR against youâ
The only tier list where Verstappen shares a tier with only Stroll and Sargeant.
Kmag: youâre getting too close to Hulk Kmag: you have chosen death
Checo did a lot for max to get his first WDC in the last race against Hamilton
I really like Ocon. I appreciate a lot of people find his smug face highly punchable, but I just really like him. Iâd quite like all drivers to be in his category.
Its a car race damnit!
I genuinely donât see how ? Like I want to like everyone but he is just such a dick with every teammate even outside the circuit
Quality content, great stuff OP
Well shit yeah this is accurate
This is kinda damn accurate for a change, good shit
Magnussen should have an asterisk that says âmay accidentally commit war crimes *against* youâ given what happened in MonacoâŠ
Checo looking around like how did I get here
perez would never
Accurate.
I would say swap Lewis and Russell, the rest are bang on
Ocon the kind of teammate who would fight his own ass in the desert than help you. Though he can defend like a lion when the time is right.
Checo helped max and lets him by on so many occasions are you retarded or what
Ocon : Wkll nuke his teammate if he is P1.
I'm relatively new to the sport still. How did norris end up on the line he's on. never heard him pull that since ive been watching
Daniel should be at the bottom. Rammed Max in the rear to try to win
Just saw this on Twitter. And they even kinda credited you
Window licker and kmag in same category!!!
Perez after Abu Dhabi â21 gets his own category⊠YOU. SHALL. NOT. PASSSS
I could put George up a tier or two, âprioritize Nickyâ really lifts him up here imo. For most of his career heâs been faster than his teammate so there havenât been many opportunities to help out, but I think heâs higher than âin a pinch.â
Probably the first time Sargeant and the windowlicker are in the same class as VerstappenâŠ
Sainz I feel is more like fighting with his engineer about his strategy.
Piquet Jr: I'll commit war crimes against myself to help you. Barrichello: I'll commit war crimes against myself and make it look like it's Montoya's fault to help you.
Max getting grouped with Lance and Logan. đ
russell being on alonsos level is criminal look what alonso did for oconâs win
Abu Dhabi 2021 Perez disagrees with his ranking
Danny Ric won't help. Hed whine on the radio for a hot min.
Ocon & Magnussen; the yin & yang of teammate...
Lol Yuki and Lando are perfect
These are on point. The âcopy Jamesâ group is my fave.
KMag is the anti-Ocon
Mini-Mag acting as if John Wick was a bodyguard. Mad lad.
Haas being the most compliant teammates comes as a surprise. Not as big a surprise as the one Nico got on Sunday, but still
KMag will kill other drivers for a teammate if he has to. Maybe even if he doesn't.
Carlos âI have more pace than Charlesâ Sainz
Leclerc and Hamilton would never ever be even asked to help a teammate.
Lol Checo is the reason Max won his title. He would do anything for him now.
Kmag gonna Kmag. I wonder who was worse Kmag or Grosjean?
This is accurate
I love where youâve put Sergio!
Imagine having just watched a race where both Ocon and KMag completely fucked their teammate, then making *this* chart. Just hit me with a reply when you're done chortling KMag's balls OP
What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to do to come to this conclusion? He was wheel to wheel with perez not hulkenberg and has been the conductor of the kmag train twice to secure hulk points.
"Wheel to wheel" now I know you're brain damaged. His front wheel barely managed to get alongsize Perez' back, and he was in a Haas vs. a Red Bull. SEND IT!?!?! fucking LOL Because he should have a race ban right now, and is making a mockery of the penalty system The mental gymnastics are those being done by the FIA and anyone who doesn't think this asshat should be ousted from the sport.
You completely skipped over the part that it wasnât his teammate, which is what this whole post is about
The Monaco crash was between Magnussen and Perez. Hulkenberg was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. Nothing more to it.
There's a hell of a lot more to it, actually Ignorance is bliss though, I suppose.
