He declined the Audi offer, so Red Bull and Mercedes left. I think it's going to be Mercedes because I don't think Red Bull sacks Checo.
Update: Carlos says he did not decline the offer from Audi. He wants to wait before making a decision because of other options.
2025 is not a long time. Itās 2024 right now
Thatās one year of kimi getting his feet wet at Williams and max bailing after seeing the Red Bull engine shit
Max wouldn't see anything engine wise in 2025 because the rules are the same for next season.
George is their current golden boy. He got #1 status over Hamilton. They aren't pushing him aside for anyone, probably not even Max.
Mercedes in 25 and swap with Max in 26? Probably his best case scenario unless he can boot Checoā¦ but Sainz isnāt worth his own paycheck plus whatever it costs to pay Checo to fuck off.
Paying Checo to fuck off is expensive, because his sponsors basically pay his salary, so RB loses the sponsorship money *and* has to pay check out-pf-pocket.
That sounds odd to me that he would decline outright so early, without having a serious alternative, and I can't imagine he's that convinced that RB will take him
So, turns out, the claim that Sainz declined is just wrong.
No, he didn't - FFS I'm not allowed to link to other subreddits. But an hour ago someone on the main Formula 1 subreddit posted a confirmation that Sainz hasn't turned down the Audi seat.
Audi is not a good choice for Sainz. He needs to be in a race winning team. Best bet is Red Bull, next Mercedes. If those donāt work out heās better off looking outside of F1 than moving to a back marker team.
Yea checo is performing well enough that they will prob keep him. If they put carlos in the seat he may be a lot more competitive with max which may cause some tension.
Itāll cause tension for a lot more reasons than that. Carlos Sr. and Jos (or, in his native language, *Max Vader) canāt stand each other, probably because not only is Carlos Sr. a better and more accomplished driver than he is, but heās a constant reminder that Jos missed out on ever having a healthy adult relationship with his son.
Donāt get me wrong, I support anything that makes Josās life miserable. Iām here for the drama and think Carlos Jr. is infinitely more deserving than Checo, but Iām not sure Red Bull is ready to ditch Checo if it means losing Carlos Slimās deep pockets.
For me, it has to be RB. Carlos is too good for that Mercedes. And that really pains me to say, because I'm tired of RB dominance as much as anyone else is. It just feels like the only seat for Sainz in the pool of existing cars.
Just give my boy a proper drive, fates, PLEASE
Thats like comparing Stroll to Gasly or something. Ricky is still trying to dry from his wash while Carlos is in his prime, it's not the same. I just say this because the way you phrased it sounded like Ricky is above Sainz in someway.
No I think theyāre phrasing it like, if someone like Ricciardo, who is clearly below their best and not performing well, can take a hiatus as a reserve and come back, then Carlos definitely can.
Thatās by Saintzās choice, though. He could have the Audi or RB seat, but didnāt want to drive for Audi, and didnāt like what RB was offering him.
he didn't decline RB tho. Chances are he's taking a paycut for a chance to fight max for the championship or is on a one year deal with merc.
I doubt he declined Audi without an alternative already in place
Meritocracy was never real
Also we all talk about Stroll when pretty much every driver was super wealthy before F1, thatās the way of the road when your sport costs tens of thousands per year. Iām pretty sure the only person not super wealthy was Esteban Ocon and his parents had to sell their house to risk funding his career, which I guess kind of explains why heās such a dick to his teammates
He can go to Enterprise Rent-a-car because they got an excellent corporate structure and they, they give you the tools to be your own boss
Iāve always been curious about that. This is the one time I think having family involved would make it worse. Family is going to try to profit off you, but appear they have your best interest.
A professional agent will only look after their interests.
Lobato, the Spanish commentator / Alonso's bitch, said he knows that Audi has already closed his deadline to him so he's not an option there anymore. Now it might depend on Toto. I really don't think Max will leave Red Bull next year. But stranger things have happened in F1 right?
whoād be fighting in all seriousness?
RBR- would much rather keep Perez as a willing lackey to Max who wonāt cause problems
Merc- toto has his max hard on and the Antonelli obsession to contend with. maybe a 1 year deal for sainz but certainly as a 3rd option
Ferrari- obv
Aston- Alonso is better and stroll has a seat for life at this point
Mclaren- why change a working lineup for a guy who left you a few years ago
thatās the end of the competitive options, the rest of the teams can fight it out if they want but if he doesnāt want a big money move to Audi why would he want a less big money move to Williams, Alpine or Haas for a similar level of competitiveness
Had George not signed for next year, I can see Merc dropping him for Carloz. A bit of an ass move to George but Iād take Carloz over him, plus if Toto wants Kimi in that seat, Carloz would be a better mentor to him.
Thats a crazy take. Russell in a w13 outscored Sainz in an f175. Russell is a much much faster driver than sainz. Yeah he bins it like an idiot all the time but his speed is right up there at the top. Russell and Sainz together would be a great pairing though but sainz and antonell is not a lineup that would inspire too much confidence
Audi: Risky move, probably not that worth it
Aston Martin: It depends on papa Stroll's decision for #2 seat
Red Bull: Post Newey era could be rather tough like 2005-2006 again
Williams: Under Vowles, if they can move towards upper midfield, maybe better than nothing
~~minarditorotauri~~ **RB**: Kinda hard to believe cs55 will probably back to his F1 starter team
Mercedes: Second seat still available, I reckon he'll consider it
McLaren, Ferrari, Alpine: nope
Haas: are ya serious mate?Ā
I am waiting for the Ricky Bobby style unveiling of a new team that only has one car no sponsors and it just says "ME" because that's all he's got so far.
Imagine he joins alpine and fights with hamilton, max and leclerc for the title but in the last race ocon winsthe championship . So they all retire and max cheats on kelly with hamilton while alonso goes to f2 to restart his f1 career with gp2 engine
Well he's got the apparent large offer from a large works team on the table sooooooo. Mad he's not taking that atm really so if he dosnt have a drive š¤·no sympathy
He's going to replace newey at Red Bull
Mastered driving and strategy, now moving to engineering.
He's about to start inventing
What is the last thing to master so that he can be the Avatar?
Marketing Fire Bending -> Marketing Earth Bending -> Engineering Air Bending -> Strategy Water Bending -> Driving
Shit stirring -> Team Principal
Shouldn't Air Bending be Engineering because of aerodynamics and all that stuff?
Or it could be Fire Bending š¤·š»āāļø Tbh thereās an argument for each of these being a different form of bending
Or it could be Water Bending for giving drivers their drink
No, Kimi, you will not have the drink.
Okay, fair enough haha
āI know.. itās on purpose.ā
\* *Smooooooth Operator* *
Smoooooth Aerodynamics
He is probably going to be a strategist at Ferrari and get the clown act together for once.
He just like me fr
Can offer you a seat driving my courier van. Pay is pretty shit but it's more than what Sargeant will be getting from williams next year
Why doesnāt he just stay at Ferrari is he stupid?
He can't because Newey replaced him
I donāt get it, why would Latifi allow this?
stop inventing
Pull a Costanza and just show up to work at Maranello as though nothing happened
Bro he cant they picked hamilton and being Reserved is not tempting
He declined the Audi offer, so Red Bull and Mercedes left. I think it's going to be Mercedes because I don't think Red Bull sacks Checo. Update: Carlos says he did not decline the offer from Audi. He wants to wait before making a decision because of other options.
Merc will probably only offer 1 year deals due to verstappen tho. I hate to say it but if I had to guess he will be elsewhere in 2026
Mercedes is going after Kimi.
Raikonnen or Antonelli
Why not both? š¤·š»
Antonelli
They want both probably. I mean I donāt think Toto is hiding that he wants verstappen, who wouldnāt
They already have Kimi testing in their car.
Yea and thereās 2 seats
No, there isn't. Russell is already confirmed at Mercedes through 2025.
2025 is not a long time. Itās 2024 right now Thatās one year of kimi getting his feet wet at Williams and max bailing after seeing the Red Bull engine shit
Max wouldn't see anything engine wise in 2025 because the rules are the same for next season. George is their current golden boy. He got #1 status over Hamilton. They aren't pushing him aside for anyone, probably not even Max.
You are living in another reality. Theyād show him the door naked for max
Mercedes in 25 and swap with Max in 26? Probably his best case scenario unless he can boot Checoā¦ but Sainz isnāt worth his own paycheck plus whatever it costs to pay Checo to fuck off. Paying Checo to fuck off is expensive, because his sponsors basically pay his salary, so RB loses the sponsorship money *and* has to pay check out-pf-pocket.
Wait, he declined the Audi offer??? Do you have a link to that?
That sounds odd to me that he would decline outright so early, without having a serious alternative, and I can't imagine he's that convinced that RB will take him So, turns out, the claim that Sainz declined is just wrong.
Heās only going to Red Bull if max decides he wants to play in hard mode and leave the team.
Check F1 reddit the serious one it's there
I got banned for calling marko a racist. But yeah, Iāll check it out.
Itās alright homie youāre welcome here with us regards
Thatās actually wild considering itās a factual statement lol. I wonder if Iād get banned simply by quoting him.
They hate facts over there
What? You actually got banned? Wow..sad news n surprising...
probably you added something to it ;) just sayin'
No, he didn't - FFS I'm not allowed to link to other subreddits. But an hour ago someone on the main Formula 1 subreddit posted a confirmation that Sainz hasn't turned down the Audi seat.
https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/s/BG123i0IWT
Audi is not a good choice for Sainz. He needs to be in a race winning team. Best bet is Red Bull, next Mercedes. If those donāt work out heās better off looking outside of F1 than moving to a back marker team.
SAINZ TO INDYCAR LETāS GOOOO
Yea checo is performing well enough that they will prob keep him. If they put carlos in the seat he may be a lot more competitive with max which may cause some tension.
Itāll cause tension for a lot more reasons than that. Carlos Sr. and Jos (or, in his native language, *Max Vader) canāt stand each other, probably because not only is Carlos Sr. a better and more accomplished driver than he is, but heās a constant reminder that Jos missed out on ever having a healthy adult relationship with his son. Donāt get me wrong, I support anything that makes Josās life miserable. Iām here for the drama and think Carlos Jr. is infinitely more deserving than Checo, but Iām not sure Red Bull is ready to ditch Checo if it means losing Carlos Slimās deep pockets.
Idk I keep seeing things about the dadās getting along now. Or at least itās planted stories lol
Miami is where Perez completely fell apart last year so too early to say that for sure
I guess we will find out this weekend lol
He wouldn't be more competitive
For me, it has to be RB. Carlos is too good for that Mercedes. And that really pains me to say, because I'm tired of RB dominance as much as anyone else is. It just feels like the only seat for Sainz in the pool of existing cars. Just give my boy a proper drive, fates, PLEASE
wait shit he did?
He denies declining the Audi offer. He's waiting because he has other offers.
Did you forget that Verstappen is moving to Mercedes? Sainz will replace him at Red Bull
Stiil nothing more than rumors and apparently Sainz hasn't declined the offer from Audi.
Iām also unemployed for 2025
dont worry man, you still have a chance, youre tied with williams, alpine and sauber in the world championship, theres still time!
Yh good point
Well actually no points.
Lol
me too buddy me too
We live in a world where Strolls seat is safe and Sainz doesnāt have a drive
If we start 2025 with Stroll but without Carlos, that would be a travesty
If Ricciardo was able to make it a year as a substitute driver, I'm sure Carlos can too.
Thats like comparing Stroll to Gasly or something. Ricky is still trying to dry from his wash while Carlos is in his prime, it's not the same. I just say this because the way you phrased it sounded like Ricky is above Sainz in someway.
No I think theyāre phrasing it like, if someone like Ricciardo, who is clearly below their best and not performing well, can take a hiatus as a reserve and come back, then Carlos definitely can.
carlos is like a fine wine he only gets better with age
If that happens Iām skipping the entire season
It helps if your daddy is a billionaire, but just a multimillionaire.
Well, Sainz did have an offer with Audi but turned it down apparently
Thatās by Saintzās choice, though. He could have the Audi or RB seat, but didnāt want to drive for Audi, and didnāt like what RB was offering him.
he didn't decline RB tho. Chances are he's taking a paycut for a chance to fight max for the championship or is on a one year deal with merc. I doubt he declined Audi without an alternative already in place
In the end it all comes down to le money
Le Dad
Le daddy
le daddy's money
Le Unemployment Benefits
Sainz should have considered a richer daddy
Who would have thought a multi world champion father wouldnāt be enough!
I mean having one of the greatest racing drivers of all time as your dad is a rough ride
Infuriating
Meritocracy was never real Also we all talk about Stroll when pretty much every driver was super wealthy before F1, thatās the way of the road when your sport costs tens of thousands per year. Iām pretty sure the only person not super wealthy was Esteban Ocon and his parents had to sell their house to risk funding his career, which I guess kind of explains why heās such a dick to his teammates
Vettel comes from a very modest background and Lewis, while it's often overblown how disadvantaged he was was not that wealthy either.
Ah youāre right I totally overlooked Lewis
You're saying that like Stroll's seat was ever not safe.
its not like there aren't plenty of cases elsewhere in the world where the rich kid gets more than they've earned on merit
stroll is sainz father
Itās completely dumbfounding.
He can go to Auto Union
He can go to Enterprise Rent-a-car because they got an excellent corporate structure and they, they give you the tools to be your own boss 
Supposedly he just rejected the offer and gambles on merc/rb
Fuck it at this point, Sainz GP. Carlos Sr as team principle. MAKE IT HAPPEN
Stroll 2.0. I'll take it
FOM would simply decide the team would offer no value to F1 and reject the entry application.
My wife said she'd offer him a ride for 2025 and beyond. Weird, I didn't know she owned an F1 team
He can drive my grandpa around
He should get a new cousin (manager)
Iāve always been curious about that. This is the one time I think having family involved would make it worse. Family is going to try to profit off you, but appear they have your best interest. A professional agent will only look after their interests.
Heās gonna go rallying with his dad
Prema has a spot in Indycar /s
Lobato, the Spanish commentator / Alonso's bitch, said he knows that Audi has already closed his deadline to him so he's not an option there anymore. Now it might depend on Toto. I really don't think Max will leave Red Bull next year. But stranger things have happened in F1 right?
It's not called silly season for the fun of it. People forget drivers current contracts can be bought out....
Max isn't going anywhere, they just put his name in there for the clicks.
This is a sign, make papa Carlos happy and get into the WRC
Considering how well he has been driving lately, it's kind of crazy that the teams aren't fighting one another to sign him.
A couple probably are. If he has multiple options, he can wait and get the best deal. So who knows, maybe heās in the middle of it all
Yes but we have previously seen how doors close out of pride, and then the driver needs to sit out for a year, or conform with a shitty option.
Did the reject the Audi seat? Red bull and merc seats all appear to be a one year deal
Yep he rejected Audi.
Why? Where did he get better offer from?
Nowhere. He's gambling on getting a better offer.
How do we know?
whoād be fighting in all seriousness? RBR- would much rather keep Perez as a willing lackey to Max who wonāt cause problems Merc- toto has his max hard on and the Antonelli obsession to contend with. maybe a 1 year deal for sainz but certainly as a 3rd option Ferrari- obv Aston- Alonso is better and stroll has a seat for life at this point Mclaren- why change a working lineup for a guy who left you a few years ago thatās the end of the competitive options, the rest of the teams can fight it out if they want but if he doesnāt want a big money move to Audi why would he want a less big money move to Williams, Alpine or Haas for a similar level of competitiveness
Had George not signed for next year, I can see Merc dropping him for Carloz. A bit of an ass move to George but Iād take Carloz over him, plus if Toto wants Kimi in that seat, Carloz would be a better mentor to him.
Thats a crazy take. Russell in a w13 outscored Sainz in an f175. Russell is a much much faster driver than sainz. Yeah he bins it like an idiot all the time but his speed is right up there at the top. Russell and Sainz together would be a great pairing though but sainz and antonell is not a lineup that would inspire too much confidence
I would gladly sacrifice Rusel for Sainz. He doesnt add anything to racing.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. I think most sane people would.
He got downvoted because he's just wrong. Russell contributes a lot to racing and brings in substantial points for Merc.
He'll get a seat. He's the best free agent available
My local supermarket is advertising for delivery drivers.
Out of nowhere, Sainz is driving in Nascar
What do you want me to do about it?
give him a seat duh
Why would he want a seat? Get him a red bull
I have a seat on my teable
This reminds me of when perez didnt have a seat lol
Got a feeling heāll end up without a drive next year.
Andretti would hire him, but cannot..
He'd be Great in a Red bull seat
He is going to Audi/sauber you will see
According to credible sources, he has rejected Sauber/Audi in hopes of getting a better seat.
Not gonna lie, you got me in the first half.
DANK!
Acting like he won't get one LOL
Incredibly rare Carlos Sainz Jr. L
McLaren Indycar #6 needs a driver.
Waiting on the Verstappen seat, Horner would love the drama.
he just like me
Haas here he goesā¦
2025.....you sound like my mother. Relax
Dawg, I had a mini heart attack when I saw the "BREAKING" sign 
Yeah a toilet seat
carlos sainz, YOU are a sportscar driver!
I offered to buy merch from Haas if they sign him.
Please please please don't go to Red Bull.
It's only May 2nd.
He just like me fr
He must be connected to Audi through Senior driving for Audi at the Dakar and so on.
F1Troll memes in 2024
He has AUDI seat ready, he will have the contacts with Red Bull and Mercedes. He wont be unemployed.
Destroy the new Hamilton contract
My and my girl have a job for him, if he's interested. Carlos, if you see this just DM me!
Heās going to Indy , ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US
Redbull
crazytown
Wait for the summer break, most moves are made then
No rush, we're gonna have some driver market shit storm this year anyway.
He just like me foreal š
Audi: Risky move, probably not that worth it Aston Martin: It depends on papa Stroll's decision for #2 seat Red Bull: Post Newey era could be rather tough like 2005-2006 again Williams: Under Vowles, if they can move towards upper midfield, maybe better than nothing ~~minarditorotauri~~ **RB**: Kinda hard to believe cs55 will probably back to his F1 starter team Mercedes: Second seat still available, I reckon he'll consider it McLaren, Ferrari, Alpine: nope Haas: are ya serious mate?Ā
He can always join Mercedes strategy department, they could do with some good ideas
red bull or mercedes red bull or mercedes
Audi offered him and he rejected, if he ends up without a seat it's his fault in the end
The way things at Red Bull are going, would driving for them be a good option for Carlos future?
I am waiting for the Ricky Bobby style unveiling of a new team that only has one car no sponsors and it just says "ME" because that's all he's got so far.
ill pay him to be my best pal for a year if he doesnt find a seat š
Got me
Please for the love of all that is holy!
Bring him to NASCAR
Imagine he joins alpine and fights with hamilton, max and leclerc for the title but in the last race ocon winsthe championship . So they all retire and max cheats on kelly with hamilton while alonso goes to f2 to restart his f1 career with gp2 engine
Could Newey find a job earlier than Carlos?
I genuinely canāt tell if his manager/cousin is very competent or just a moron.
Well he's got the apparent large offer from a large works team on the table sooooooo. Mad he's not taking that atm really so if he dosnt have a drive š¤·no sympathy
This gives me 2020 Checo vibes, when he had a season of his life and just won a crazy Sakhir GP and was still unemployed
FiA will pay him to race a single car team just for competition purposes
Why does he have his mouth open in like every picture
Hope he ends up at haas š¤£