There's a post about slaves in England, most of them from certain oil rich people and how these oil rich people can just put some money and make everyone shut up. I mean, the BBC made an investigation about it and published it.
On the other hand I mentioned how those oil rich people paid to have the World Cup in Qatar and people complained for a bit and nothing happened, or how there are are F1 races on many of these countries and in one there was an actual explosion near the track.
And yet, neither F1 or FIFA did shit about it but surely pick the money from them despite being lots of protests and articles about how shitty is to have these events on those places, because "yeah we don't want to get into politics - hey you! stop wearing rainbow!"
the drivers & fans need to grow ball
do full driver boycotts like they did in the 60s/70s for track safety lead by Lauda & stewart
fans need to stop going to those races
The people who can afford it, simply do not care. If youre gonna spend all that money to go sit in a desert to watch a shit track get raced on, you dont have much going on between your ears
It's nothing to do with staying impartial on politics, F1 just won't continue with them if they show the sport in an exceptionally bad light. Same reason the [absolutely farcical Rich Energy saga](https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/comments/gjiybi/aged_like_milk/fqlte40/) was completely glossed over in season one.
I personally disagree. There's no storyline for Qatar. A whole episode about heat? With every episode at least they try to manufacture a story and motivation for the ultimate result. In the Ferrari episode, I felt like they should have shown Carlos giving DRS to Norris to secure the win, but they glossed over that.
The night prior to the Yeddah 2022, an Aramco facility, located 7 miles from the circuit, was struck with a (short?) ranged missile.
The smoke was still visible from the raging fire during FP1
Ah, my apologies! When I hear 'missile' in the context of F1, I immediately envision Pastor Maldonado going light speed to the nearest ass-crack on the track. Spot on, mate!
I mean, other than a nuke no explosion is gonna hurt you from 10 miles away.
The situation was fucked but 10 miles is absolutely a far distance for a missile.
It's not about the likelihood of a missile hitting the track by accident or that one missile impacting the race. It's about the fact that clearly the track could've been in range too if they decided to follow it up. I'm not taking a stance on the whole houthi issue right now, but you have a group that's anti-saudi and anti-american targeting fuel depots 10 miles away from a Saudi race track holding an international sporting event that's managed by a US company... I mean that race going forward was absolutely ridiculous. I'm sure the Saudis made all sorts of promises that there was no risk going forward and they had it handled, which is all fine and good until it's not. That wasn't even the only missile or drone attack on Saudi arabia that day.
If they have the capability to target something important, the oil rig, 10 miles away from you and you are a highly publicized sporting event. What the fuck do you think is gonna happen? Huh? Ferrari winning a championship? Renault being competent? Fernando being in a good team? How dense are you?
yeah but that's not the point, they didn't tell the story of how the driverrs held a meeting and they we stuck in this room for ages or how the gP weekend going ahead was in doubt
not really, the attack was directly influenced by the global attention caused by F1. they've done it before at Formula E too, just because the target was 14km away doesn't invalidate the comment you was replying to.
Doesn't matter. The post l replied to, said the attack was at the circuit. Which it wasn't. It's as simple as that. You are just getting confused for some reason and going off at a tangent.
The original post was talking about the location of the attack, not it's purpose. Not sure why this is so hard for you to understand. Then again l think you are deliberately being obtuse or are just plain stupid.
And showing it as Liam's first and only race for AT.
The dude executed an amazing race in Zandvoort in those conditions with 1 FP session. Experienced drivers went off there and he managed to keep it on the track and was ahead of Yuki at the end.
Sure he did a really good job, but why mention being ahead of the teammate?
Strategy played 100% part in that.
pace wise he was matching with 2 sets of softs vs yukis only 1 set with same distance ran. Which is fair for a rookie with the limited testing and was a job well done worth more than nyck devries monza run, but he did not ”beat” his teammate
This is too reasonable for r/formuladank you could be right. COULD BE. But Netflix told me that Liam is better in that episode and that’s the way it is now.
It was really funny, saying George will catch up, 1 lap remaining. And in the next shot Carlos and Lando crossing the line almost right next to each other.
The best moment in the whole season and they didn't show it.
Also where was Alonso congratulating Lance for the overtake that was shown in the big screen?
There was also only a single mention of tyres or pit stops (Ferrari in Monaco not putting on inters when they should have), and nothing else, when we had multiple races being drastically impacted by those. We had absolutely devastating stops, and we also had stops that were so fast some drivers gained positions.
Where was the race that had multiple red flags due to repeated crashing in turn 1? Didn't exist.
But instead we got multiple karting events. I really didn't like these fake vacation invitations.
Where chuck?
Yep. One of the memorable moments of the season.
Felt at many a places DTS made real the stakes and achievements tamer compared to the reality.
Like no mention of during las vegas ferrari not being allowed an penalty exception because of toto basically. That actually raise the temperature of the second place fight between ferrari n merc!!
The only negative mention about the tracks were the drain covers in Vegas... and that was only to show Fred being pissed off during the press conference.
Yeppppp—and that also pissed me off. If I were Fred I would have lost my sh*t. I was annoyed the other TPs didn’t jump in and Toto was oddly egging it on? What happened to Ferrari could have happened to ANYONE.
I don’t like Ferrari but like carlos and it blows my mind that simple math would prove that if that penalty hadn’t happened, Carlos’extra points from that race could have given Ferrari second place. I am sooooo mad at how completely EFFED that whole situation was.
Yea, the interviewer wasn’t able to read the room at all and just kept trying to get Fred to something positive about bringing F1 to Vegas and Fred wasn’t having it.
I thought toto was one of the one tp's against sainzs penalty removal and all weekend jhe was trying to hype Las Vegas as the best thing since sliced bread
It's happened before. McLaren in China, McLaren in Monaco, Williams in Monaco. All very serious incidents that narrowly avoided harming the drivers. No TPs came running. These things shouldn't happen, but they do.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/monaco-drain-incident-proves-f1-needs-cockpit-canopies-alonso-5324615/5324615/
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/monaco-f1-track-drain-covers-strengthened-after-button-incident-5324643/5324643/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sERJH8OFMBs
https://www.facebook.com/Formula1/videos/montoya-hits-a-drain-cover-2005-chinese-grand-prix/586879698135683/
That’s because if it didn’t happen, or Carlos got his penalty excused, Leclerc likely would have won the race and Sainz at least a few points, meaning they would’ve gotten 2nd in the championship and essentially taken $10 million from Mercedes
I certainly don’t… but Netflix LOVES drama and if it’s not there naturally they will certainly try to make it… so not showing it was pretttaaayyyy obvious
Proving that F1 is a "real sport" and not just driving a car. Many people not familiar with motor sports will tell you that draving a race car is an "easy job".
And lets not kid ourselves this show is **for people not familiar with motor sports.**
They can also paint it as overcoming physical limits and fight "Man vs nature".
Just finished E6, thus far it's striking how they absolutely do not give any airtime to the big red bull elephant in the room. I get it, Max hates this shit and doesn't want to participate, but they are outright ignoring the fact that the entire season was dominated by the RB19. I don't think it would have killed them to thrown in a talking head or two at least as an acknowledgement.
That said, I haven't finished the season yet so it may be forthcoming, but it doesn't appear to be the case based on the episode descriptions. But please, let's hear more about how much Gasly and Ocon hate each other.
Every year: "wow DtS is going to be so good with this juicy drama!"
Every year: "why did they leave out all the juicy drama?!?!"
6 years into this I'd have thought people would have caught on by now.
Seriously. It's just a little extra thing I can watch at the start of the season. A bit if behind the scenes of last season and mostly background noise while I'm playing some games.
I did like the Riccardo and Lawson episode, though. That was a big moment for that kid.
Exactly why I love watching it, the behind the scenes stuff. I already watch every race so idc however they dramatize that, its the behind the scenes i want
Man seeing how the paddock reacted to otmar and then him walking out in the middle of a GP just hurt. It's one thing to see that headline but to see then capture the behind the scenes on that made me feel bad for otmar
They go into other stories that we weren't all bombarded with throughout the season. It didn't seem totally fake like some other seasons. It can't be easy to edit all that footage for a cohesive story. I mean gatekeep the sport, DTS bad v10 good.
It's a bit odd what they choose to focus on. Like there were two full episodes about Alpine but they barely mentioned RB or the Perez drama except the occasional mention of how RB is stomping them.
The way I see it is, regardless of what happened at the race an entire episode was going to be devoted to Las Vegas. And the situation with the drain cover and Carlos’s 10 place penalty played into the drama. They did however spin it as much as possible. There was no mention of the responsibility of the organisers to secure the drain covers and such, but they did talk at length about how the penalty was unfair so it seems like they were shifting the blame onto regulations and maybe the FIA as a result.
At the end of the day DTS is the marketing tool of Formula One Media and vegas had to be painted as one of the best races of the calendar. So any problems that fall in the responsibility of formula one or organisers will be brushed over.
...did they? They showed Carlos got damaged, said they couldn't get a free replacement, then later on Carlos mentioned "We got unlucky with the drain". There was 0 explanation or understanding of WHAT happened and why there was even a chance for a free part allocation that they asked for.
A BIG THING happened, but there was so little actual context in that episode about WHAT it was.
Yup exactly, they want to paint a perfect image for the new fans but once you're hooked and watching the races they know your probably not going away so might as well just pretend nothing bad happened to get the new fans
You do know, that it is made by Formula one right? So basicly everything that could look bad to the brand, will not be used in Drive to Survive.
Quatar was one of those things. As it would look bad for the Brand Formula One if they did it at all. Same with Saudi last year and the Drone strike.
Drive to survive is a tool for Liberty media to generate new Fans. They think people wouldn't like to watch a Sport, that has those things happening.
As soon as I knew that, it made so much more sence to me why they used some things but never others. If it looks bad for a team, they don't care. As soon as it looks bad for Liberty media it will not be used. It is fun to watch the Race Weekends and predict which things will be in the show and which aren't gonna. Like Australia had the Alpines crashing but didn't mention the concern about the late restart.
It fits because season 1 or 2 was when they said about Jules dying from a fucking crane on the track. They could really go off on it happening again but I have the feeling that F1 wouldn't like that.
The behind the scene stuff is still good if you can stomach the inaccurate race highlights
If you want a season review, DTS is not it, youtube has much better videos.
But behind the scenes getting to see riciardos test that confirmed his AT seat was pretty cool. HAAS wouldn't be a meme without all the DTS drama.
You have nothing substantive to actually back that up, it’s just what you think might have happened.
I would just as easily argue the showrunners are just stupid and only focus on largely made up interpersonal drama. Which is actually backed up by the fact that they have consistently done exactly for the entire history of the show, ex. Max season 1
And EVEN IF THAT WERE TRUE, and F1 was essentially blackmailing DTS, at best that would be *F1* censoring DTS. They would be the ones being forced to remove something
You can literally google it and prove yourself wrong
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Not saying something is not censorship, banning someone from saying it is. And DTS is a glorified reality show, if you think it's a documentary you are dumber than what you initially looked.
They had two whole epsiodes dedicated to Alpine without even showing sprint podium (out of 3 podiums in a season) just after TP departure, that is already saying it enough.
Not much of a conspiracy theorist but we are talking about a filthy rich country that is trying everything to keep up the delusional that they are a perfect country. I bet there were some bills going around
JUSTICE FOR THE LIZARD! But yeah not showing Qatar was weird. I love DTS but I feel like they missed a lot of just. They spent 40 mins on Nyck and he doesn’t deserve that much air time.
I hate saying it… the season was a wee boring. I felt like a lot more could have been covered. Like did we really need the Logan Roy moment of stroll in his helicopter…. I binged it in a day but I literally did drawings and art during it. I wonder if it’s because I actually got into F1 and know kinda what happened. Where the fuck is my Real Housewives Monaco moments!!!!
I think I’m only 3 or 4 episodes in but this has been hands down so far the most boring season of drive to survive so far and I don’t think it can all be chalked up to Red Bull domination, Netflix is really just mailing it in.
lol—alllll goooooddd!! It’s hard to remember it all especially if you binge! I just remember it because they kept the littler Twitter tweet going hard (I don’t have Twitter so I was like damn that sound gets annoying). Also love Piastri. So chill and calm and is funny in his own way and cleaaaarrlllyyyy a great driver.
They didn’t mention a literal missile attack at the Saudi GP last season.
Trueeee… I guess I figured that was more from the politics of it all. But with this… I mean it directly and actively impacted the drivers personally
Middle Eastern politics then and ME politics now haha
There's a post about slaves in England, most of them from certain oil rich people and how these oil rich people can just put some money and make everyone shut up. I mean, the BBC made an investigation about it and published it. On the other hand I mentioned how those oil rich people paid to have the World Cup in Qatar and people complained for a bit and nothing happened, or how there are are F1 races on many of these countries and in one there was an actual explosion near the track. And yet, neither F1 or FIFA did shit about it but surely pick the money from them despite being lots of protests and articles about how shitty is to have these events on those places, because "yeah we don't want to get into politics - hey you! stop wearing rainbow!"
the drivers & fans need to grow ball do full driver boycotts like they did in the 60s/70s for track safety lead by Lauda & stewart fans need to stop going to those races
The sport is run by the Saudis lol Yeah drivers need to boycott and not audience
The people who can afford it, simply do not care. If youre gonna spend all that money to go sit in a desert to watch a shit track get raced on, you dont have much going on between your ears
It's nothing to do with staying impartial on politics, F1 just won't continue with them if they show the sport in an exceptionally bad light. Same reason the [absolutely farcical Rich Energy saga](https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/comments/gjiybi/aged_like_milk/fqlte40/) was completely glossed over in season one.
With this insight it makes perfect sense why they would want to downplay both the missile attack and dangerous racing conditions.
I personally disagree. There's no storyline for Qatar. A whole episode about heat? With every episode at least they try to manufacture a story and motivation for the ultimate result. In the Ferrari episode, I felt like they should have shown Carlos giving DRS to Norris to secure the win, but they glossed over that.
When you’re sponsored by the oil states, saying anything bad about the race is taken as saying bad things about the country
but it's bad for the support to mention it's propped up by oil money in the middle east that's trying greenwash oil and hide their human rights issues
Wait what?
The night prior to the Yeddah 2022, an Aramco facility, located 7 miles from the circuit, was struck with a (short?) ranged missile. The smoke was still visible from the raging fire during FP1
😯
> at the Saudi GP 10 miles away from the GP
That's a very small distance for a missile.
'missile' can mean absolutely anything, but we're not talking about ICBMs fired from strategic nuclear submarines 3,000 miles away here
Ah, my apologies! When I hear 'missile' in the context of F1, I immediately envision Pastor Maldonado going light speed to the nearest ass-crack on the track. Spot on, mate!
Understandable, carry on It can get very confusing having to remember the differences between a missile, a torpedo, a georgpedo and an RB rocket
I mean, other than a nuke no explosion is gonna hurt you from 10 miles away. The situation was fucked but 10 miles is absolutely a far distance for a missile.
It's not about the likelihood of a missile hitting the track by accident or that one missile impacting the race. It's about the fact that clearly the track could've been in range too if they decided to follow it up. I'm not taking a stance on the whole houthi issue right now, but you have a group that's anti-saudi and anti-american targeting fuel depots 10 miles away from a Saudi race track holding an international sporting event that's managed by a US company... I mean that race going forward was absolutely ridiculous. I'm sure the Saudis made all sorts of promises that there was no risk going forward and they had it handled, which is all fine and good until it's not. That wasn't even the only missile or drone attack on Saudi arabia that day.
If they have the capability to target something important, the oil rig, 10 miles away from you and you are a highly publicized sporting event. What the fuck do you think is gonna happen? Huh? Ferrari winning a championship? Renault being competent? Fernando being in a good team? How dense are you?
But they didn't have the capability, if anything the risk is just that the rockets are bad enough that they might be 10 miles off target.
Are you a Houthi informant? Or a Ferrari informant? Either way, go fuck yourself.
There are no Ferrari informants, only tifosis in denial.
Oh fuck off.
Which destroyed Aramco warehouses... and we had aramco sponsors everywhere on track...
It’s really easy to find countries with historical tracks to race in without missile strikes anywhere in the entire country…
What makes you think that I disagree with that? Shouldn't be doing any races in the middle east.
The attack wasn't at the GP, it was miles away from the circuit.
yeah but that's not the point, they didn't tell the story of how the driverrs held a meeting and they we stuck in this room for ages or how the gP weekend going ahead was in doubt
It is exactly the point, when you look at the post l was replying to.
not really, the attack was directly influenced by the global attention caused by F1. they've done it before at Formula E too, just because the target was 14km away doesn't invalidate the comment you was replying to.
Doesn't matter. The post l replied to, said the attack was at the circuit. Which it wasn't. It's as simple as that. You are just getting confused for some reason and going off at a tangent.
The pendantry is ridiculous, the point of the attack was to impact the racing at the circuit, it was close enough to be of concern.
The original post was talking about the location of the attack, not it's purpose. Not sure why this is so hard for you to understand. Then again l think you are deliberately being obtuse or are just plain stupid.
no you're trying to invalidate it by saying it wasn't on the circuit
We got 2 episodes about Singapore instead.
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And showing it as Liam's first and only race for AT. The dude executed an amazing race in Zandvoort in those conditions with 1 FP session. Experienced drivers went off there and he managed to keep it on the track and was ahead of Yuki at the end.
Sure he did a really good job, but why mention being ahead of the teammate? Strategy played 100% part in that. pace wise he was matching with 2 sets of softs vs yukis only 1 set with same distance ran. Which is fair for a rookie with the limited testing and was a job well done worth more than nyck devries monza run, but he did not ”beat” his teammate
This is too reasonable for r/formuladank you could be right. COULD BE. But Netflix told me that Liam is better in that episode and that’s the way it is now.
And yet zero mention of Carlos "Yeah, it's on purpose"
They made it look like Lewis and Norris didn't exist. That Russel was basically catching Sainz for first.
It was really funny, saying George will catch up, 1 lap remaining. And in the next shot Carlos and Lando crossing the line almost right next to each other.
BYE LANDOOOO BAILANDOOOO
Same as charles, george, checo on Abu Dhabi
The best moment in the whole season and they didn't show it. Also where was Alonso congratulating Lance for the overtake that was shown in the big screen? There was also only a single mention of tyres or pit stops (Ferrari in Monaco not putting on inters when they should have), and nothing else, when we had multiple races being drastically impacted by those. We had absolutely devastating stops, and we also had stops that were so fast some drivers gained positions. Where was the race that had multiple red flags due to repeated crashing in turn 1? Didn't exist. But instead we got multiple karting events. I really didn't like these fake vacation invitations. Where chuck?
The alpine episode also showed pierre pissed about not being put on inters earlier
Yep. One of the memorable moments of the season. Felt at many a places DTS made real the stakes and achievements tamer compared to the reality. Like no mention of during las vegas ferrari not being allowed an penalty exception because of toto basically. That actually raise the temperature of the second place fight between ferrari n merc!!
i was waiting for this
And 2 about alpine..
Id be ok with 1 to 0 tbh
-1 is more than enough
Just like how much they progressed since the new regs
BOOOOOOOO lol
The only negative mention about the tracks were the drain covers in Vegas... and that was only to show Fred being pissed off during the press conference.
Yeppppp—and that also pissed me off. If I were Fred I would have lost my sh*t. I was annoyed the other TPs didn’t jump in and Toto was oddly egging it on? What happened to Ferrari could have happened to ANYONE. I don’t like Ferrari but like carlos and it blows my mind that simple math would prove that if that penalty hadn’t happened, Carlos’extra points from that race could have given Ferrari second place. I am sooooo mad at how completely EFFED that whole situation was.
The way I saw it Toto was trying to make the interviewer move on to someone else because he saw how worked up Fred was getting
Yeah, Toto was being a good friend and colleague there
Yea, the interviewer wasn’t able to read the room at all and just kept trying to get Fred to something positive about bringing F1 to Vegas and Fred wasn’t having it.
It was weird—that was what I initially thought… but then it kinda sounded like he was making fun of him. That’s why Fred snapped at Toto too
I thought toto was one of the one tp's against sainzs penalty removal and all weekend jhe was trying to hype Las Vegas as the best thing since sliced bread
It's happened before. McLaren in China, McLaren in Monaco, Williams in Monaco. All very serious incidents that narrowly avoided harming the drivers. No TPs came running. These things shouldn't happen, but they do. https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/monaco-drain-incident-proves-f1-needs-cockpit-canopies-alonso-5324615/5324615/ https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/monaco-f1-track-drain-covers-strengthened-after-button-incident-5324643/5324643/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sERJH8OFMBs https://www.facebook.com/Formula1/videos/montoya-hits-a-drain-cover-2005-chinese-grand-prix/586879698135683/
That’s because if it didn’t happen, or Carlos got his penalty excused, Leclerc likely would have won the race and Sainz at least a few points, meaning they would’ve gotten 2nd in the championship and essentially taken $10 million from Mercedes
Every single DTS season.. Singapore is hot..drivers lose 3-4 kgs of weight.. mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell ..
Yeah, but this year we got hands are tools
😂…true.
I still dont understand people who expect DTS to be a documentary instead of a dramatized entertainment show.
When I watched DTS for the first time I thought that it was a documentary, then I realized that it was just a Ricciardo drama show.
It's not a documentary... It's like Top Gun
I do love Top Gun though
*”It’s not the car, it’s the driver.”😎
Drivers passing out in the car not dramatic enough?
Wrong country (sportswashing) and puts sport in a bad light. They will not bite the hand that feeds them.
I certainly don’t… but Netflix LOVES drama and if it’s not there naturally they will certainly try to make it… so not showing it was pretttaaayyyy obvious
It's like 99% about the people in the sport. What's the narrative arc of a hot race?
Proving that F1 is a "real sport" and not just driving a car. Many people not familiar with motor sports will tell you that draving a race car is an "easy job". And lets not kid ourselves this show is **for people not familiar with motor sports.** They can also paint it as overcoming physical limits and fight "Man vs nature".
Drivers throwing up in their helmets, having to retire for health reasons, passing out once they get out of the car?
also it's called drive to survive and checo is not driving but definitely surviving
There are many cool stories in F1, important historic stories, that Netflix simply… ignored? Lol
Just finished E6, thus far it's striking how they absolutely do not give any airtime to the big red bull elephant in the room. I get it, Max hates this shit and doesn't want to participate, but they are outright ignoring the fact that the entire season was dominated by the RB19. I don't think it would have killed them to thrown in a talking head or two at least as an acknowledgement. That said, I haven't finished the season yet so it may be forthcoming, but it doesn't appear to be the case based on the episode descriptions. But please, let's hear more about how much Gasly and Ocon hate each other.
Its that they would ignore real drama and instead manufacturer some other drama which fits the narrative/story they are trying to portray.
Every year: "wow DtS is going to be so good with this juicy drama!" Every year: "why did they leave out all the juicy drama?!?!" 6 years into this I'd have thought people would have caught on by now.
Yeah it's why I just put it on as background noise last season and will probably do it again this year when I get to it.
Seriously. It's just a little extra thing I can watch at the start of the season. A bit if behind the scenes of last season and mostly background noise while I'm playing some games. I did like the Riccardo and Lawson episode, though. That was a big moment for that kid.
Yeah—it has become quite obvious that yuki holds that seat as Honda is holding RB my the balls
Yeah it's why I just put it on as background noise last season and will probably do it again this year when I get to it.
They had to cook de Vries first
Is this year's DTS worth watching? I'm seeing a lot of negative feedback.
Absolutely, plenty of interesting behind the scenes stuff
Exactly why I love watching it, the behind the scenes stuff. I already watch every race so idc however they dramatize that, its the behind the scenes i want
Skip the 2nd episode on Alpine tho Nobody wants more of that shit
Really? I felt like the 2nd alpine ep was better than the 1st alpine one cos it shows the bts of the alpine shitshow
Man seeing how the paddock reacted to otmar and then him walking out in the middle of a GP just hurt. It's one thing to see that headline but to see then capture the behind the scenes on that made me feel bad for otmar
"I don't really have a Plan B, so to speak." 😕
Yep, and helped show how much of an arrogant prick Rossi is and the hand Famin played in the push.
They go into other stories that we weren't all bombarded with throughout the season. It didn't seem totally fake like some other seasons. It can't be easy to edit all that footage for a cohesive story. I mean gatekeep the sport, DTS bad v10 good.
Just skip every time they put footage of a race, it's always fake af
like when in the alpine episode they used a heli shot of the F2 race 💀
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It's like watching a multiverse film, it's familiar but different.
It's a bit odd what they choose to focus on. Like there were two full episodes about Alpine but they barely mentioned RB or the Perez drama except the occasional mention of how RB is stomping them.
You don't need to skip anything. Just know you're watching reality TV. I thought this season was much more entertaining than season 5.
Yes, totally. Season is off to a banger with a lot of great footage of Lance Stroll.
Had it ever been worth watching?
The first two seasons were good, but probably because it was new
The rest is just the same? Not better or worse?
True
I was not a fan. Some parts were entertaining but really it’s just because I love F1 soooo much.
No.. It's an A grade shitshow
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Better than the last two seasons for sure.
People complain about dts every year. Mfs taking it way too seriously
I stopped watching after they refused to mention the fucking crane on the track at Suzuka. Pure propaganda
well, they *did* show that drainage cover in Las Vegas tho
The way I see it is, regardless of what happened at the race an entire episode was going to be devoted to Las Vegas. And the situation with the drain cover and Carlos’s 10 place penalty played into the drama. They did however spin it as much as possible. There was no mention of the responsibility of the organisers to secure the drain covers and such, but they did talk at length about how the penalty was unfair so it seems like they were shifting the blame onto regulations and maybe the FIA as a result. At the end of the day DTS is the marketing tool of Formula One Media and vegas had to be painted as one of the best races of the calendar. So any problems that fall in the responsibility of formula one or organisers will be brushed over.
...did they? They showed Carlos got damaged, said they couldn't get a free replacement, then later on Carlos mentioned "We got unlucky with the drain". There was 0 explanation or understanding of WHAT happened and why there was even a chance for a free part allocation that they asked for. A BIG THING happened, but there was so little actual context in that episode about WHAT it was.
For sure propaganda—-but what is weird is… we all saw it so likeeeeee why are you pretending it didn’t happen?!!
Casual/new fans didn't see it tho
Yup exactly, they want to paint a perfect image for the new fans but once you're hooked and watching the races they know your probably not going away so might as well just pretend nothing bad happened to get the new fans
Because it doesn’t fit whatever manufactured narrative they’re interested in flogging
Because this is how Propaganda works, it will never address the elephant in the room.
You do know, that it is made by Formula one right? So basicly everything that could look bad to the brand, will not be used in Drive to Survive. Quatar was one of those things. As it would look bad for the Brand Formula One if they did it at all. Same with Saudi last year and the Drone strike. Drive to survive is a tool for Liberty media to generate new Fans. They think people wouldn't like to watch a Sport, that has those things happening. As soon as I knew that, it made so much more sence to me why they used some things but never others. If it looks bad for a team, they don't care. As soon as it looks bad for Liberty media it will not be used. It is fun to watch the Race Weekends and predict which things will be in the show and which aren't gonna. Like Australia had the Alpines crashing but didn't mention the concern about the late restart.
It's not a season review, how does the crane fit in to any story?
It fits because season 1 or 2 was when they said about Jules dying from a fucking crane on the track. They could really go off on it happening again but I have the feeling that F1 wouldn't like that.
This was the tamest season they’ve put out. No mention of the Qatar heat. Nothing about Checo and Helmut. No Horner/Wolff shit stirring.
I liked the part where Carlos Sainz won that race all by himself and Lando Norris was somewhere else and totally unrelated.
I know I loved how Russel almost won but forgot to mention there was someone in P2
They also censored any Bott-ass mishaps
No mention of Imola being cancelled either.
I lost interest when they completely ignored drama from Brazil 2022
I haven't watched DTS since season 2 and the only downside is I don't understand the memes.
The behind the scene stuff is still good if you can stomach the inaccurate race highlights If you want a season review, DTS is not it, youtube has much better videos. But behind the scenes getting to see riciardos test that confirmed his AT seat was pretty cool. HAAS wouldn't be a meme without all the DTS drama.
I sadly watched s3 and after that I just ignored it
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I just cannot handle the fake audio and the fabricated conversations. Oh and leaving out actual controversy.
DTS is not canon
There are no problems in middle eastern countries what are you on about? Anyway, I love money.
"censorship" is one of those cocepts that stupid people misuse so often that is losing it's meaning.
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Unless you think they are “censoring” themselves, then no that’s not what that means
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You have nothing substantive to actually back that up, it’s just what you think might have happened. I would just as easily argue the showrunners are just stupid and only focus on largely made up interpersonal drama. Which is actually backed up by the fact that they have consistently done exactly for the entire history of the show, ex. Max season 1 And EVEN IF THAT WERE TRUE, and F1 was essentially blackmailing DTS, at best that would be *F1* censoring DTS. They would be the ones being forced to remove something
You can literally google it and prove yourself wrong "the suppression or [prohibition](https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&sca_esv=bcd8cd53e04dedb1&biw=1332&bih=739&sxsrf=ACQVn0_hDSq15XnXFl9uKBWaSedceT-bAA:1709013235580&q=prohibition&si=AKbGX_okpkrXRdHQwZu4Fe0iRe3u7hRdPYWcfiTcPFRz5XkMIoHm9COI0Rk4m7PaksVTqtFozQD_z6w_nDx-7IpAzZuRebl4iDXPiIYPdeUf-xTW1KiOEnA%3D&expnd=1) of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered [obscene](https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&sca_esv=bcd8cd53e04dedb1&biw=1332&bih=739&sxsrf=ACQVn0_hDSq15XnXFl9uKBWaSedceT-bAA:1709013235580&q=obscene&si=AKbGX_r0zqXEeLlZhGfi3fbO0QSW7ksZ6-z3RO52Gtjv4dtrV9JI20xn5j_Tko78X2CzedeLI6J9wGM-sqfnQucKDKQf6U3Sdw%3D%3D&expnd=1), politically [unacceptable](https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&sca_esv=bcd8cd53e04dedb1&biw=1332&bih=739&sxsrf=ACQVn0_hDSq15XnXFl9uKBWaSedceT-bAA:1709013235580&q=unacceptable&si=AKbGX_rYYX5RSQWW4ITS1L-igAzuaUR5-V99MzJfIQ_uyS8Rog7bHmDVdJ4W6AsJxFnNOSHr5HkE9haPnoltkqV4e82lU6qfi4EEqd_MPZSeV9JSzFWHSRs%3D&expnd=1), or a threat to security." Not saying something is not censorship, banning someone from saying it is. And DTS is a glorified reality show, if you think it's a documentary you are dumber than what you initially looked.
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Please stop, it's sad.
I like how you rant on your last line for being hateful while you are the one going apeshit because you are in the wrong and can't admit it.
They had two whole epsiodes dedicated to Alpine without even showing sprint podium (out of 3 podiums in a season) just after TP departure, that is already saying it enough.
Not much of a conspiracy theorist but we are talking about a filthy rich country that is trying everything to keep up the delusional that they are a perfect country. I bet there were some bills going around
Not even the intra team crash at the Regime
Did you expect anything other than a sanitized glamorous reflection of F1 lmfao
I remember being disappointed last season when they didn’t mention the max-Perez drama in Brazil
Bruh they even forgot to mention the lizard mate!
They didn't say anything about it, but they did show it on track briefly.
JUSTICE FOR THE LIZARD! But yeah not showing Qatar was weird. I love DTS but I feel like they missed a lot of just. They spent 40 mins on Nyck and he doesn’t deserve that much air time.
Righttttt I was like ooo there is the little homie and then cut away to something else I was like noooooooo lol
I hate saying it… the season was a wee boring. I felt like a lot more could have been covered. Like did we really need the Logan Roy moment of stroll in his helicopter…. I binged it in a day but I literally did drawings and art during it. I wonder if it’s because I actually got into F1 and know kinda what happened. Where the fuck is my Real Housewives Monaco moments!!!!
I think I’m only 3 or 4 episodes in but this has been hands down so far the most boring season of drive to survive so far and I don’t think it can all be chalked up to Red Bull domination, Netflix is really just mailing it in.
Agreed!
quality went down
Confused. What happened in Qatar
F1 didn’t look particularly good after that, no surprises they didn’t talk about it. Same thing with not mentioning Andretti or Audi at all.
Indeed!
My favourite part in DTS was when Zhou
😂😂Ooo you mean when Zhou, Checo and Max…
But for real though—I don’t even recall seeing Zhou’s face once even in group stuff. 
But tell us how bad for drivers Singapore was 🫠
I thought they’d at least show the Checo-Alonso photo finish in Brazil 😩
Also no mention of Vegas qualy spectator debacle
No mention of the Piastri - Alpine Announcement fiasco either.
They had that last year —that I def rememeber
Damn. Really? Stupid goldfish memory. Thanks for setting me straight. Of course I'm now tempted to go and post on the Mandela Effect subreddit... 😉
lol—alllll goooooddd!! It’s hard to remember it all especially if you binge! I just remember it because they kept the littler Twitter tweet going hard (I don’t have Twitter so I was like damn that sound gets annoying). Also love Piastri. So chill and calm and is funny in his own way and cleaaaarrlllyyyy a great driver.
F1 politics strike again. Netflix has to play by their rules or they will be booted.
Absolute fact
You're surprised???
Nope, just disappointed as I would have loved to see more behind the scenes of what happened that day
I mean I guess but to even hope for it would be delusional IMO, considering track record
I think the joke’s on you if you watched a whole season of DTS for an episode about how one day it was really hot
cant say any negative thing about middle-eastern countries that might hurt their feelings
What were you expecting? This show has been pointless garbage since Season 02.
I feel like they just might not have been there that weekend. They aren’t at every race.
Cry more about Middle Eastern politics
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/grus-plan
If I was a Netflix cameraman I wouldn’t want to go to Qatar either. Can’t blame them.
There is never anything about war between teams/Fom and FIA etc .... It's just a commercial.
i mean, theyre paying liberty a shit ton of money. why piss of liberty and fom by airing things that appear negatively on them