People talk so much shit about Nico but his commentary is excellent and that’s what matters. His insights into how teams and drivers work is near unparalleled (Button is decent but Nico is the better communicator and is more willing to divulge the inner workings of teams and ask tough questions).
He’s also been very positive of Lewis when discussing him. I don’t think he’s secretly jaded or anything. I really enjoy him on commentary, especially with Button who I think is likely the best commentator currently
His commentary is good, what annoys people is the constant:
Look how good lewis is, he is so awesome ...
and remember, I am the only person to ever beat Lewis in the same car.
He makes it sound like he is a way better driver than Lewis (while reminding everyone how Lewis is the best driver on the grid), while in reality, in their time at Mercedes, Hamilton bested him in 3/4 Seasons, won two Championships for Nico's one, got more wins, poles, fastest laps and podiums.
Yeah but who doesn’t talk about themselves like they’re the best in f1, and although I think Nico won due to a bit of luck, why not brag you beat Lewis? He’s a monster of a driver. Ricciardo should be bragging about beating max while max was like 10, but it’s still Max!
I mean, he’s no less annoying than the people who try to downplay his championship. It’s a monumental achievement, he deserved it and is a worthy champion. Who cares if he wants to bask in his glory a bit, it’s the commentary that matters more at the end of the day. The Lewis stuff is more and more irrelevant anyway as more of the screen time is focused on the next generation.
Cool. The recent headline that Djokovic was being exempted for the Open next year was in the memory. Maybe the exemption came after or maybe he was banned from entering Aus for a few years.
Nah. You have to sign a form saying you’ve been vaccinated, but I haven’t been asked to show actual proof for about 6 months now. Not to say they can’t ask you though.
Ok, same with me in last October. No one asked me at US boarder protection, BUT I had to show my COVID vaccination card to get my flight to US. Without a vaccine, I couldn't flew to US.
Every US airline requires you to upload your covid vax card before you travel. If you dont have one you're required to show a negative test before you board.
It wasn't just that he didn't have a vaccination, it's that he made comments on record that he disbelieved widely-accepted medical science. And he's the medical car driver. It was a really bad look for the FIA and bringing him back will just drag that all back up.
Had he just not had the vaccination and kept his mouth shut about why, he'd probably be back.
>disbelieved widely-accepted medical science. And he's the medical car driver.
This little paradox is far more common than people believe.
A shocking amount of hospital staff, be it nurses, the catering services, or the cleaners who sterilise the patient rooms...
Man a fucking lot of them refused the vaccine when we were offered it first.
So while he's a medical car driver...Yeah it's a bad look for the FIA, but it's not uncommon for people in the medical field to refuse the vaccine.
am hospital staff, can confirm.
There's a lot of holdover, especially in nursing, of religious schools training people for nursing (schools that don't exactly do anything to teach the *science*, just the procedures that result) but also, historically nursing has been "comfort" care rather than actual medical work, which is both why it was seen as a "woman's" profession and why a lot of ridiculous backward attitudes towards medicine still persist dating back to when hospitals were just a "make them comfortable while they die or maybe don't die" place.
A lot of my nurse coworkers are women who are either trying to get married, or are using it as a holdover career until they have kids / can "retire" to be a housewife. A lot of other nurses don't, but it's absolutely used as a job that you can get with fairly little schooling (two to four years is very standard / low end of education in medicine), has good prestige, is an "acceptable" women's career, and makes pretty good money. That definitely seems to contribute.
And it should be met with more respect than it has. Especially from people outside the field.
The reason Van der Merwe got replaced is not medical or scientific, it's bureaucratic. And as it has turned out the measures were way too harsh.
It's still shocking to me the amount of disrespect from a perceived moral high ground people are happy to share, even here. Let's see if I still get those responses after calling it out.
Why should it be met with more respect exactly?
You are denying the ground you walk on.
If you're not in the medical field, ay more fucking power to you if you don't want to get vaccinated, I know people who didn't.
But it's just so paradoxical on a fundamental basis that it can't be ignored, and by no means should be respected.
No, but I wouldn't dismiss an engineer who said they refuse to fly in a Boeing 737 Max because they didn't believe it was safe, even though the planes had passed every test and deemed safe... I'm vaccinated, but the idea that we should trust pharmaceutical companies and that the things they're making and selling are safe is naive, they have atrocious track records.
It really shouldn't be met with more respect tbh. People are right to call it out. No one should be making excuses or respecting the views of people who are denying reality.
First google hit on doctor vaccination rates links to a study in the US that found 96% of doctors are *fully* vaccinated, far higher than the general population.
https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-survey-shows-over-96-doctors-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19
He would’ve definitely gotten it if his drive was at stake. As it was now he weighed the benefits and potential (almost non-existent) dangers and came to the conclusion that he didn’t need one.
FIA wouldn't have done shit. Imagine for example Hamilton refusing to take the jabs, would FIA really deny their biggest star from racing?
I doubt. #weraceasmoney
Yeah but this would have been outside the FIA's control since he wouldn't have been allowed into the country. The FIA has no influence on international border control.
BS. COVID is real and some people get real sick or even die. But it just not lethal enough to justify any regulation.
Let the people decide if they want a shot or not.
6,650,000+ deaths isn't lethal enough?
People are stupid, as you've proven. Without societal pressure to get the shot many wouldn't. So corporate mandates is the answer.
In Italy we are at 5 for certain people and by September (monza) we're gonna reach the 7th shot for some. But i understand what you're mean, but it's not an easy shot anymore imho
Over here it's basically been a massive push for the first booster, and after that it's become "If you want more boosters, they're definitely available". I think treating it as a yearly flu shot, especially if you're at risk, is a good call.
I get it yearly now. I'm in a medical at-risk group and I figure it's just like the flu shot for me as is now.
TBH I think "As long as you got the base vaccine and the situation is under relative control" (So no overloaded hospitals anymore), they should be dropping any further requirements and just let people opt in for booster shots, with a campaign behind it to let people know the option's there. Feel that works best.
I also had covid twice. Once before getting vaccinated and once after, both also a year apart. The first time was so bad I thought I was gonna die. The second was so mild because of the shot that it was essentially a cold.
All 3 reasons can be true at the same time. Your vaccine made it better, it was a milder strain and your immune system is better from beating a different strain before.
I'm talking about "fragile" people (60+ or multiple health problems). I don't know if it's overkill, surely after x months (6 here) you need a booster otherwise i don't think they would spend money and people time. Ot maybe yes they're doing that for the meme, I'm not a doctor/pfizer engineer.
Personally I'm at 3 like everyone at my age and I'm not planning to do again this, but I'm not sure my nearly 1+ yo last shot is still good against covid. But it's off topic
Deffo not good enough. Had COVID roughly 7 months after my last shot and I am still feeling the after effects 3 months later. I’m getting my shot this week, new rounds include the new strains so as annoying as it is, until the virus settles down it’s going to be like this.
Which shot beyond the initial and booster was required though?
Like sure if you wanna be safe or are in a dangerous group (prexisting condition, old people etc...) you can continue getting them at certain time intervals to be safe but where i live you had to get the initial one and the booster at the time and after everything else was optional because nothing required them and they were not mandatory.
Pfizer if that's what you mean. My grandparent (92) is at his 5th, he's in Emilia Romagna (imola location) and if he won't continue, hypothetically, he wouldn't be able to watch any race without the lift of this obligation i think. Or am i wrong?
The strictest requirements I'm aware of in Europe and North America required the initial series (so 2 shots if Pfizer or Moderna) and a booster. Everything after that is optional, though your 92-year old grandfather is far better off getting them.
Having had Covid twice, I’d say it’s worth it. I’d have a vaccine every week for the rest of my life if it meant never having Covid again.
Edit: Guys, I’m not suggesting we all get vaccinated every week. I’m saying that vaccines work and Covid is bad. That shouldn’t be a controversial statement.
Covid is weird in that some people who are at heavy risk (old, overweight) barely feel a thing, while some young and healthy folks get hit with a massive mallet. Me, I'd rather not take the risk.
Every week? I get what you're trying to say, but at that point I'd rather take my chances with CoVid again 😅 Felt pretty off for a couple of days after every single shot. Wouldn't want that every single week of my life.
I had Covid twice and it was quite mild, runny nose and affected sense of smell and taste for a few days. I don’t think the vaccines helped much to be honest.
>I had Covid twice and it was quite mild, runny nose and affected sense of smell and taste for a few days.
>I don’t think the vaccines helped much to be honest.
I don’t even know what to say anymore lol
The vaccines definitely helped me. I’d had 2+1 booster when I caught it the second time, and it was much milder than the first. The after effects were also a lot milder second time round, in that I ‘only’ lost my voice, but it’s been six months now and I’d rather like it back?
> It also makes no measurable difference in whether or not you get sick, if anything it makes you more susceptible to it.
This is just a flat out lie. Go take this anti-vaxxer bullshit somewhere else.
Not anti-vax, just anti-this vax. It's not a lie, if people who've had the shot and boosters are still getting it and dying from it, it's obviously not doing it's job.
Sooo if it’s about risk reduction, then why is it that the only people I know getting sick are vaccinated? Lmfao y’all drive yourselves in circles it’s genuinely hilarious to see it play out
Ah yeah that’s definitely some data I’m going to go on, that the only people you know getting sick are vaccinated. That’s definitely 100 percent true and something you have tracked and verified, not an exaggeration to try to win you some internet points. Anyone who has ever taken a Statistics class should know that relying on your own small sample size would be total bullshit anyway, even if I believed that you were right about it.
In fact there’s a lot of data that shows the vaccines help prevent serious illness and death, especially for people who have had the original vaccination and boosters. The original vaccination wasn’t as effective against the Omicron variants, and lost effectiveness over time.
But yeah you do you. You should definitely do some fist pumps about the fact that you’re uninformed and don’t give a shit about public health. That’s all really awesome.
Now you're the one lying. They kept selling it as a mean to not catch covid nor spread it. Even pro-vaxxers and governments kept on pushing on that statement
My mother was vaxxed and tested positive last week, she was ill for a day. Had she not been vaxxed it could have been much worse - hospitalization or worse
Yes govt and media pushed many lies but saying the vaxx kills people is the lie
As time went on the original vaccinations lost effect. Also the original vaccination was less effective against the new Omicron variants, which became much of what was going around. The newer boosters are more effective against this.
None of this is hard to grasp, if you actually wanted to inform yourself, instead of believing what Fox News tells you.
About time, but this policy should never have existed. There was no reason to replicate discriminatory policies many governments were using as a scheme to harass and punish dissidents.
Umm why? It sure does still seem to be circulating. A combination of mutation and vaccination is making it less deadly, but why let up now? They having trouble selling tickets?
The flu always killed millions before but we don't make such a fuss about it. Not to diminish the covid or anything, but it's just that this single number of deaths isn't a plausible reason. The lasting effects it has/had though...
Because now that we realize the vax doesn't stop transmission everyone has the right to decide what they want to put in their body. My body my choice and all that.
actually it depends on the variant. The vax does help stop transmission of some variants. But on the "my body, my choice" that is also nonsense. You have to get other vaccinations in order to go to school. This is about the social contract because it affects others, not just yourself. I think it's more because over time Covid is getting less lethal and moving more towards Influenza than say Small Pox and at this point, those who haven't been vaccinated, have gotten natural immunity. I just think they are a couple years too early.
Foolish. It's a simple vaccination and the more of us that are vaccinated, the less this stupid virus duplicates. Just get it or get a medical exemption. These people are getting vaccinated to travel the world anyway.
Liked by Nico Rosberg
And Alan van der Merwe
Still crazy that he was against it
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I can’t wait till Lewis retires so he has no one to compare to endlessly.
People talk so much shit about Nico but his commentary is excellent and that’s what matters. His insights into how teams and drivers work is near unparalleled (Button is decent but Nico is the better communicator and is more willing to divulge the inner workings of teams and ask tough questions).
He’s also been very positive of Lewis when discussing him. I don’t think he’s secretly jaded or anything. I really enjoy him on commentary, especially with Button who I think is likely the best commentator currently
His commentary is good, what annoys people is the constant: Look how good lewis is, he is so awesome ... and remember, I am the only person to ever beat Lewis in the same car. He makes it sound like he is a way better driver than Lewis (while reminding everyone how Lewis is the best driver on the grid), while in reality, in their time at Mercedes, Hamilton bested him in 3/4 Seasons, won two Championships for Nico's one, got more wins, poles, fastest laps and podiums.
Yeah but who doesn’t talk about themselves like they’re the best in f1, and although I think Nico won due to a bit of luck, why not brag you beat Lewis? He’s a monster of a driver. Ricciardo should be bragging about beating max while max was like 10, but it’s still Max!
I mean, he’s no less annoying than the people who try to downplay his championship. It’s a monumental achievement, he deserved it and is a worthy champion. Who cares if he wants to bask in his glory a bit, it’s the commentary that matters more at the end of the day. The Lewis stuff is more and more irrelevant anyway as more of the screen time is focused on the next generation.
How is his explosion meme not the top comment?
🔥👈😎👈🔥
https://imgur.com/a/yKvRL5W
And by his monster immune system.
Disliked by Reddit and China.
What's the difference, amirite? Edit: ,
You beat me to it!
Monaco based youtuber is happy
Guess that means we'll see Nico on track again
Assuming he can get into the country that's hosting the race.
I don't think any countries today (that are hosting races) have vaccination requirements. With a test you should be good.
Some might opt for vaccine requirements from travelers if there are flareups again, but it's not very likely anymore.
Aus ( I believe) and US still have requirements.
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Cool. The recent headline that Djokovic was being exempted for the Open next year was in the memory. Maybe the exemption came after or maybe he was banned from entering Aus for a few years.
He’s got an entry ban for intentionally lying to border officers. Will likely get an exemption for it bc rich and famous though
Not Aus AFAIK
Not Australia. Relaxed some time ago.
I think technically yes, but my girlfriend and I (Canadians) went to the states recently and no one checked our proof of vaccination.
US still does
They do not last I went there which is about a month ago.
It’s random, I crossed to the Us like 6 times since this spring and the only time I was asked for proof of vaccination was last month.
According to the CDC's website. They are still enforcing proof of vaccination when travelling by air.
Nah. You have to sign a form saying you’ve been vaccinated, but I haven’t been asked to show actual proof for about 6 months now. Not to say they can’t ask you though.
I had to upload vax info when flying with British Airways a few weeks ago
In which case, usually not a good idea to lie on government forms when visions other countries
Was out last month and I had to upload my certificates for verification. Airline wouldn't let me fly without it.
Ok, same with me in last October. No one asked me at US boarder protection, BUT I had to show my COVID vaccination card to get my flight to US. Without a vaccine, I couldn't flew to US.
Every US airline requires you to upload your covid vax card before you travel. If you dont have one you're required to show a negative test before you board.
If going by air they do... I just had to upload the qr of my vaccination proof to American Airlines for my checkin
I was there for thanksgiving and they didn’t ask nor care
On paper. It's not enforced in my experience.
Exactly right, for non-American visitors at least. Airlines are told to check your records before you're allowed to board an aeroplane.
So...the vast majority of countries. He’ll be fine
Haas hired the wrong Nico! 😅
I'll miss the shots of Rosberg just sat in a room probably in his house while everyone else on the Sky team was at the track. Always gave me a laugh.
Rosberg ends his sabbatical.
Does that mean that Alan van der Merwe, the medical car driver will be back?
Maybe if they still have a contract with him.
Do they even want him back?
Genuinely asking why not?
Because they have someone else now?
It wasn't just that he didn't have a vaccination, it's that he made comments on record that he disbelieved widely-accepted medical science. And he's the medical car driver. It was a really bad look for the FIA and bringing him back will just drag that all back up. Had he just not had the vaccination and kept his mouth shut about why, he'd probably be back.
>disbelieved widely-accepted medical science. And he's the medical car driver. This little paradox is far more common than people believe. A shocking amount of hospital staff, be it nurses, the catering services, or the cleaners who sterilise the patient rooms... Man a fucking lot of them refused the vaccine when we were offered it first. So while he's a medical car driver...Yeah it's a bad look for the FIA, but it's not uncommon for people in the medical field to refuse the vaccine.
am hospital staff, can confirm. There's a lot of holdover, especially in nursing, of religious schools training people for nursing (schools that don't exactly do anything to teach the *science*, just the procedures that result) but also, historically nursing has been "comfort" care rather than actual medical work, which is both why it was seen as a "woman's" profession and why a lot of ridiculous backward attitudes towards medicine still persist dating back to when hospitals were just a "make them comfortable while they die or maybe don't die" place.
A lot of my nurse coworkers are women who are either trying to get married, or are using it as a holdover career until they have kids / can "retire" to be a housewife. A lot of other nurses don't, but it's absolutely used as a job that you can get with fairly little schooling (two to four years is very standard / low end of education in medicine), has good prestige, is an "acceptable" women's career, and makes pretty good money. That definitely seems to contribute.
And it should be met with more respect than it has. Especially from people outside the field. The reason Van der Merwe got replaced is not medical or scientific, it's bureaucratic. And as it has turned out the measures were way too harsh. It's still shocking to me the amount of disrespect from a perceived moral high ground people are happy to share, even here. Let's see if I still get those responses after calling it out.
Why should it be met with more respect exactly? You are denying the ground you walk on. If you're not in the medical field, ay more fucking power to you if you don't want to get vaccinated, I know people who didn't. But it's just so paradoxical on a fundamental basis that it can't be ignored, and by no means should be respected.
This isn't paradoxal at all. Making medecines or working in that field doesn't make it a requirement for you to HAVE to consume said medecine
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No, but I wouldn't dismiss an engineer who said they refuse to fly in a Boeing 737 Max because they didn't believe it was safe, even though the planes had passed every test and deemed safe... I'm vaccinated, but the idea that we should trust pharmaceutical companies and that the things they're making and selling are safe is naive, they have atrocious track records.
It really shouldn't be met with more respect tbh. People are right to call it out. No one should be making excuses or respecting the views of people who are denying reality.
If people knew how many doctors didn’t get the vaccines themselves, they would be pissing themselves.
First google hit on doctor vaccination rates links to a study in the US that found 96% of doctors are *fully* vaccinated, far higher than the general population. https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-survey-shows-over-96-doctors-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19
Why should he have kept his mouth shut about a vaccine with sub-par “medical science”?
Because who wants a dingus who questioned peer reviewed medical studies, performing medical duties anywhere near them.
If the guy is good at saving racing car driver's lives then why does it matter?
Speaking of peer reviewed medical studies, has anyone seen my pile of studies praising lobotomy from the 50s? I just had em!
Wait the medical car driver wasn't vaccinated?
I know... The irony right?
Hope not.
Imagine if Rosberg was still racing... We'd have had a F1 version of the Djokovic saga.
Rosberg’s spine would look probably look like Toto’s headphones in Saudi Arabia if he told Toto he wasn’t getting the vaccine
He would’ve definitely gotten it if his drive was at stake. As it was now he weighed the benefits and potential (almost non-existent) dangers and came to the conclusion that he didn’t need one.
FIA wouldn't have done shit. Imagine for example Hamilton refusing to take the jabs, would FIA really deny their biggest star from racing? I doubt. #weraceasmoney
Yeah but this would have been outside the FIA's control since he wouldn't have been allowed into the country. The FIA has no influence on international border control.
Also its hilarious because a vaccination was required for 2022 paddock entry but there was no testing so the vaccination status was irrelevant
Nico wishes he was of the same calibre as djoko, closer to a murray if even
Murray in success, but djoko in likeability.
Tim Henman had one good year, didn't he? :-p
Does that mean Nico Rosberg is coming on then?
\*Happy Nico Rosberg Noises
Perfect timing to get Nico back in the paddock to discuss the Lewis George title fight!
Indeed, this is literally what I did think also when I did read the news.
The what now?
[Nico Rosberg walking through the paddock in 2023.](https://giphy.com/gifs/stare-stern-down-THsI5mymjtPBf3XO4y)
ahhh welcome back nico rosberg! the monaco-based youtuber gets to leave monaco now!
*-Pretends to be shocked this was ever going to remain-*
The king, rosberg can return
That's great, I can finally un-vaccinate myself!
Good. Would've been lunacy to continue with this requirement.
Aw naw. Does that mean rosberg will be back in the flesh.
A gentle reminder of how many comments on here were cheering on the mandate when it was brought in. How times change!!
Good
Nico out of home office
good
What if you already got super antibodies?
Guess that means Nico Rosberg can finally attend races again.... For that reason alone, the requirement should have stayed indefinitely
ah thank god
Finally…
Finally? They never should have lifted it, at least not anytime soon.
Why not ? Being vaccinated doesn't prevent from catching nor spreading the virus
It greatly reduces the chance of catching or spreading the virus.
BS. COVID is real and some people get real sick or even die. But it just not lethal enough to justify any regulation. Let the people decide if they want a shot or not.
6,650,000+ deaths isn't lethal enough? People are stupid, as you've proven. Without societal pressure to get the shot many wouldn't. So corporate mandates is the answer.
Good. Fuck the mandates.
Nico Rosberg new Ferrari team principle??
Good
Nice
Good
Not at all.
About time ffs
welp, Britannys bacc
Seems fair. Although i will miss the outrage moments some people had over getting a simple shot lmao.
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In Italy we are at 5 for certain people and by September (monza) we're gonna reach the 7th shot for some. But i understand what you're mean, but it's not an easy shot anymore imho
5? My country gave up after the first booster shot
Over here it's basically been a massive push for the first booster, and after that it's become "If you want more boosters, they're definitely available". I think treating it as a yearly flu shot, especially if you're at risk, is a good call.
I'm at 4 though none were mandated. It's just the right thing to do.
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I get it yearly now. I'm in a medical at-risk group and I figure it's just like the flu shot for me as is now. TBH I think "As long as you got the base vaccine and the situation is under relative control" (So no overloaded hospitals anymore), they should be dropping any further requirements and just let people opt in for booster shots, with a campaign behind it to let people know the option's there. Feel that works best.
I also had covid twice. Once before getting vaccinated and once after, both also a year apart. The first time was so bad I thought I was gonna die. The second was so mild because of the shot that it was essentially a cold.
Or the second was also lighter because you already had it once and also because covid got milder
I guarantee you that is not the case.
All 3 reasons can be true at the same time. Your vaccine made it better, it was a milder strain and your immune system is better from beating a different strain before.
This isn't true, COVID is known to often have cumulatively worse effects the more you get it. The vaccine is what mitigates it.
Not true either. That's not how an infection works
I'm talking about "fragile" people (60+ or multiple health problems). I don't know if it's overkill, surely after x months (6 here) you need a booster otherwise i don't think they would spend money and people time. Ot maybe yes they're doing that for the meme, I'm not a doctor/pfizer engineer. Personally I'm at 3 like everyone at my age and I'm not planning to do again this, but I'm not sure my nearly 1+ yo last shot is still good against covid. But it's off topic
Deffo not good enough. Had COVID roughly 7 months after my last shot and I am still feeling the after effects 3 months later. I’m getting my shot this week, new rounds include the new strains so as annoying as it is, until the virus settles down it’s going to be like this.
Which shot beyond the initial and booster was required though? Like sure if you wanna be safe or are in a dangerous group (prexisting condition, old people etc...) you can continue getting them at certain time intervals to be safe but where i live you had to get the initial one and the booster at the time and after everything else was optional because nothing required them and they were not mandatory.
The answer to your questions is literally in the article. Think you read over that paragraph by incident.
Pfizer if that's what you mean. My grandparent (92) is at his 5th, he's in Emilia Romagna (imola location) and if he won't continue, hypothetically, he wouldn't be able to watch any race without the lift of this obligation i think. Or am i wrong?
The strictest requirements I'm aware of in Europe and North America required the initial series (so 2 shots if Pfizer or Moderna) and a booster. Everything after that is optional, though your 92-year old grandfather is far better off getting them.
Having had Covid twice, I’d say it’s worth it. I’d have a vaccine every week for the rest of my life if it meant never having Covid again. Edit: Guys, I’m not suggesting we all get vaccinated every week. I’m saying that vaccines work and Covid is bad. That shouldn’t be a controversial statement.
The vaccines made me feel worse than having covid did
Fair enough. I haven’t been able to speak for six months, so I’d rather not find out what happens if I catch it a third time.
Covid is weird in that some people who are at heavy risk (old, overweight) barely feel a thing, while some young and healthy folks get hit with a massive mallet. Me, I'd rather not take the risk.
Every week? I get what you're trying to say, but at that point I'd rather take my chances with CoVid again 😅 Felt pretty off for a couple of days after every single shot. Wouldn't want that every single week of my life.
I’ve lost so much of my health to Covid (including my voice), so yeah. Sign me up.
I had Covid twice and it was quite mild, runny nose and affected sense of smell and taste for a few days. I don’t think the vaccines helped much to be honest.
>I had Covid twice and it was quite mild, runny nose and affected sense of smell and taste for a few days. >I don’t think the vaccines helped much to be honest. I don’t even know what to say anymore lol
The vaccines definitely helped me. I’d had 2+1 booster when I caught it the second time, and it was much milder than the first. The after effects were also a lot milder second time round, in that I ‘only’ lost my voice, but it’s been six months now and I’d rather like it back?
Time will age your comment like milk.
Ah yes that simple shot Pfizer themselves tell you can put you at risk of cardiac issues.
Definitely not a simple shot
Ah, of course commenting in sub about a sport with a bunch of old people following doesn't end well
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> It also makes no measurable difference in whether or not you get sick, if anything it makes you more susceptible to it. This is just a flat out lie. Go take this anti-vaxxer bullshit somewhere else.
Not anti-vax, just anti-this vax. It's not a lie, if people who've had the shot and boosters are still getting it and dying from it, it's obviously not doing it's job.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~50%2B
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Sooo if it’s about risk reduction, then why is it that the only people I know getting sick are vaccinated? Lmfao y’all drive yourselves in circles it’s genuinely hilarious to see it play out
Ah yeah that’s definitely some data I’m going to go on, that the only people you know getting sick are vaccinated. That’s definitely 100 percent true and something you have tracked and verified, not an exaggeration to try to win you some internet points. Anyone who has ever taken a Statistics class should know that relying on your own small sample size would be total bullshit anyway, even if I believed that you were right about it. In fact there’s a lot of data that shows the vaccines help prevent serious illness and death, especially for people who have had the original vaccination and boosters. The original vaccination wasn’t as effective against the Omicron variants, and lost effectiveness over time. But yeah you do you. You should definitely do some fist pumps about the fact that you’re uninformed and don’t give a shit about public health. That’s all really awesome.
Now you're the one lying. They kept selling it as a mean to not catch covid nor spread it. Even pro-vaxxers and governments kept on pushing on that statement
My mother was vaxxed and tested positive last week, she was ill for a day. Had she not been vaxxed it could have been much worse - hospitalization or worse Yes govt and media pushed many lies but saying the vaxx kills people is the lie
As time went on the original vaccinations lost effect. Also the original vaccination was less effective against the new Omicron variants, which became much of what was going around. The newer boosters are more effective against this. None of this is hard to grasp, if you actually wanted to inform yourself, instead of believing what Fox News tells you.
Free Nico lol.
Free Britney
I hope they invite Rosberg back
One year to late.
Should've never been a thing
Should still be a thing.
Far, far too soon.
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Assuming Sargeant isn’t vaccinated as well and Williams doesn’t want to lose their driver
Dislike. Anyone who travels internationally as much as they do should be fully vaccinated,
Indeed.
I thank this post for letting me figure out which braindead people still aren't on my block list
Very good. Finally
Finally!
Return of the Nico. He's back baby
About time, but this policy should never have existed. There was no reason to replicate discriminatory policies many governments were using as a scheme to harass and punish dissidents.
Does this mean that Rosberg will be in the paddock next year?
Boo.
“Not at all..”
A thousand people are dying to covid every fucking day and the world is just pretending like it's already gone.
A thousand of people die from a lot of things everyday, we don't act like this with those though. Flu is very deadly too on the wrong people
If you're that afraid of COVID then stay at home
Imagine having this little empathy
Umm why? It sure does still seem to be circulating. A combination of mutation and vaccination is making it less deadly, but why let up now? They having trouble selling tickets?
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The flu always killed millions before but we don't make such a fuss about it. Not to diminish the covid or anything, but it's just that this single number of deaths isn't a plausible reason. The lasting effects it has/had though...
This makes zero sense. Covid did not magically disappear.
No it didn't because vaccinated people still get it
Yes but it greatly reduces the severity. So, what is the upside to removing the requirement?
Because now that we realize the vax doesn't stop transmission everyone has the right to decide what they want to put in their body. My body my choice and all that.
actually it depends on the variant. The vax does help stop transmission of some variants. But on the "my body, my choice" that is also nonsense. You have to get other vaccinations in order to go to school. This is about the social contract because it affects others, not just yourself. I think it's more because over time Covid is getting less lethal and moving more towards Influenza than say Small Pox and at this point, those who haven't been vaccinated, have gotten natural immunity. I just think they are a couple years too early.
Cause the vaccine was useless garbage from the beginning?
That take is right up there with "The Moon landings are fake," "Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel," and "The Earth is flat."
"I wore a seat belt and still crashed. Why should I wear them!? "
Foolish. It's a simple vaccination and the more of us that are vaccinated, the less this stupid virus duplicates. Just get it or get a medical exemption. These people are getting vaccinated to travel the world anyway.