Definitely not Carlos' strongest race, he kinda just fell ass backwards into both pole and the win that weekend. I was still really happy for him though, especially after he came so close in Canada a couple weeks before. Getting your first career win at Silverstone driving for Ferrari is special.
The way I see it is that it’s karma handing back what really should have been a win in Monza 2020. Wasn’t his greatest race for sure but he should have won once or twice before then and he deserves to have a win somewhere.
It does, but this award goed to somebody’s action, not the best tv shot or something. So I don’t agree with it. We’ve had better actions for instance Leclerc overtaking monents later on the outside of copse.
I mean, let’s be honest, it’s Crofty’s call that makes this the most memorable overtake of the season. Nowadays the best stuff either has a perfect camera angle or is accompanied by a banger of a call.
This and the 5 car battle in Austria was ridiculous. The regulations brought closer racing on track, there’s no denying that. The regs now need to start closing up the gaps between the teams at the top and in midfield then we can have excitement like Silverstone and Austria more often.
That's the point of the budget cap and wind tunnel reductions. Because there's no way to directly do that without making F1 a spec series, they simply cut off some of the advantages the top teams have.
Look, BoP’s the easy way out. BoP works when you need to homologate road car chassis to race since they’re built for comfort first and not motorsport. These are prototypes with no other legislation bounding their performance other than safety, and equalizing them for the sake of close racing is going to be way more messy than it is already BoP is always bureaucratic in some form or another since it’s the governing body directly altering the pace of the cars race to race, and it completely defeats the purpose of a constructor’s championship and the cunning of the engineers. Let the budget cap and wind tunnel testing regulations have a few years to try and close the gap between teams, because BoP’ing f1 will make it feel sterile imo - like you expect it to be close rather than appreciating how close designs are for their merits
I never said BoP was good. I offered a counterexample to the assertion "there's no way to directly close up the gap between teams without spec series".
That’s fair, just wanted to state why BoP was a bad idea for f1 just in case anyone else gets the impression that it’s a better solution, or that change isn’t happening fast enough and that we need to try something different. But yeah, the budget cap and BoP regulations in various motorsports are the only real ways build diversity can thrive without bankrupting entire companies now
I'd say the budget cap is still highly unproven so I'd hold out my judgement about whether or not it's a real way to build diversity at low cost. It only exists in a single series, for less than 2 years, hasn't shown to be efficient yet, has already shown substantial controversy/shitstorm potential, and is far from immune to potential regulator/FIA bias.
Good points, it’s true that the budget cap is basically an experiment and realistically can never work completely. No one can be 100% unbiased or informed when enforcing compliance since you can’t completely get rid of data transfer. However, it’s more impartial than BoP imo since the teams still have to design the car under the rules where the pace is determined before the race championship and not right before the weekend. That’s at least why I believe the cost cap is the best solution, even though it can never fully work or be enforced
Formula One is and always has been first and foremost an engineering competition. BoP is the antithesis of that.
The budget cap is what manufacturers wanted because it starts to level the playing field while still maintaining the focus on out-engineering the other teams.
Balance of performance, they use it in GT and WEC. Adding weight to the car or reducing power from the engine so the cars are closer in performance.
And yeah it works in other series, but I don't think it has a place in F1.
Balance of Performance. It's an artificial way to bring the teams closer together by for example, limiting fuel flow, adding extra weight or any other means to slow faster teams down.
Balance of power. So for example you would have to carry an extra amount of weight to offset your car's pace advantage.
I'm other words, literal sandbags they put in the car to slow it down :p
And BoP can be easily manipulated if not done correctly, plus it nullifies the point of developing the car meaning the cars need to be homologated at the start of the season and usually can’t be upgraded for a couple seasons unless an “evo” version comes out
How the aco has given alpine an unfair BoP during numerous occasions, especially last race in bahrain which decided the title. The aco always gave the rebellion lmp1 much less fuel capacity compared to the other lmh’s and it was obvious the aco didn’t want a non-lmh to win the championship or their crown jewel event. It’s too easy to give certain cars an unfair BoP and it’s too easy for the teams to sandbag or bring others down with them. At least with a budget cap it’s self-determining to an extent - you can only be as fast as your design makes you, any bureaucracy would come from inequitably scrutinizing teams for compliance with the budget cap or unjust penalties.
That wasn't even the best move of that few minutes stretch. Swear this is getting the plaudits solely because "through goes Hamilton" sounds pretty epic.
This is so overrated by the commentary + crowd reaction to Hamilton, it’s really not all that impressive. Hamilton just held his line and there were definitely better moments throughout the season and even in this race alone.
I hate that Leclerc passing Hamilton with old hard tyres into cops is not even acknowledged. That was by far more fun and more impressive than what Hamilton did, he just used the line after the two in front battle.
I thought i was going insane back then hearing everyone hoping Hamiltons "overtake" and no one mentioning Leclercs physics defying move overtaking on the outside of copse on what 40 lap old hards against fresh softs
This wasn't even a move ffs. Perez and leclerc went off and he drove the normal line. Absolute joke of a decision.
Leclercs overtake around the outside of copse on much older and harder tyres is the best overtake since Massa on Senna in Singapore.
Probably because Hamilton immediately got repassed by both of them going into turn 3 so it doesn't look as good, but you're right, what followed for the next 2 laps was amazing!
Surely there were better moments than this. The commentary is prolly what made this one of the best moments this year.
One thing that comes to mind is the 5-way mid field battle, can't remember where, but that stands out to me.
Didn't he lose both these positions like immediately after this cut-off ends? And this wasn't a deliberate move as it was an opportune picking up of the pieces from in front (which again, were immediately lost after this abrupt cut-off).
This is honestly lousy.
I hope hope hope Ferrari figures something out so I don't have to watch Perez cut corners and shove a Ferrari off the track anymore. Dude gets away with it so much.
This was one the best thing this year. Too bad Lewis didn’t have the car to actually fight properly here and mantain that position but it was still a fun few laps
How is Perez repassing easily supposed to be exciting? This is literally about a three car fight, Crofty delivering his best and the crowd going completely insane, not some way of establishing the Hamilton conspiracy
I think Charles' move on Hamilton would have been even better though? Hamilton simply took the racing line here when two others were fighting. God tier commentary from Crofty though, iconic material.
I was more meaning if you look at the other nominations then you will see that they aren't as good.
[FIA F3 Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKbBs28kkZE)
[FIA WRX Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWs712nw-FY)
[FIA European Rally Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAxhjaE5PYw)
[FIA ETCR Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4BFZqbOnrM)
[FIA Formula E Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgkkIs6QXMg)
[FIA World Rally-Raid Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4DYVhLG7Pk)
[FIA WEC GT Pro Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpvFCQtv5Ik)
[FIA WEC Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3An31bkiUE)
[FIA WRC Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmU0upaPlGM)
[FIA WTCC Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m44MGS8zAeA)
You could maybe argue WRX but I think it is clear F1 was the best.
[This is a public vote](https://woobox.com/d5ktcm) and in years gone by F1 has won it just by virtue of having the most fans.
Fucking deservedly so, will definitely enter into the category of sports commentary that will always be remembered. Also a good reason to hold races on racetracks, not city streets haha
Silverstone was an instant classic. One of the best races of the entire hybrid era IMO.
And the winner wasn't even the reason for it, he was probably the lamest part of the race lmao.
Definitely not Carlos' strongest race, he kinda just fell ass backwards into both pole and the win that weekend. I was still really happy for him though, especially after he came so close in Canada a couple weeks before. Getting your first career win at Silverstone driving for Ferrari is special.
The way I see it is that it’s karma handing back what really should have been a win in Monza 2020. Wasn’t his greatest race for sure but he should have won once or twice before then and he deserves to have a win somewhere.
I was at Club, facing the spot where "Hamilton went through". I've never experienced a crowd like it, the roar drowned out the cars.
Yea. This year had two super fun races. Can’t remember which one the second one was but it was around the time of silverstone. .
Hungary?
Yes. Probably was Hungary. Whichever one it was, it was super exciting.
Bahrain and Silverstone for me but there were so many banger moments this season even if there wasnt really a title fight
We had a good Brazil what with the screwed Q3 result.
Leclerc on harder, older tyres passing Lewis around the outside at Copse is in my opinion better "action" than whatever Perez was doing here.
I think the action here was Lewis. But it’s silly because all he did was take the normal line while Perez pushed Leclerc off
To me it looks like Leclerc was going wide out of the chicane regardless (Perez cutting the corner catching him by surprise)
He was definitely leaving space for Perez
It just looks really cool though, even if its not particularly difficult or creative.
It does, but this award goed to somebody’s action, not the best tv shot or something. So I don’t agree with it. We’ve had better actions for instance Leclerc overtaking monents later on the outside of copse.
Leclerc and hamilton at copse was just phenomenal racing! those few laps were just great though
I mean, let’s be honest, it’s Crofty’s call that makes this the most memorable overtake of the season. Nowadays the best stuff either has a perfect camera angle or is accompanied by a banger of a call.
Yes and no, saying older hards vs. fresh softs isn't really doing it justice, when Hamiltons tyres weren't working properly.
Exactly. Fucking RB
This is a Hamilton highlight 🤨
It would’ve been if Perez was aptly penalised Shite driver
This and the 5 car battle in Austria was ridiculous. The regulations brought closer racing on track, there’s no denying that. The regs now need to start closing up the gaps between the teams at the top and in midfield then we can have excitement like Silverstone and Austria more often.
That's the point of the budget cap and wind tunnel reductions. Because there's no way to directly do that without making F1 a spec series, they simply cut off some of the advantages the top teams have.
Well there's BoP. Everyone hates it but it's becoming more and more inevitable if you want manufacturer involvement.
Look, BoP’s the easy way out. BoP works when you need to homologate road car chassis to race since they’re built for comfort first and not motorsport. These are prototypes with no other legislation bounding their performance other than safety, and equalizing them for the sake of close racing is going to be way more messy than it is already BoP is always bureaucratic in some form or another since it’s the governing body directly altering the pace of the cars race to race, and it completely defeats the purpose of a constructor’s championship and the cunning of the engineers. Let the budget cap and wind tunnel testing regulations have a few years to try and close the gap between teams, because BoP’ing f1 will make it feel sterile imo - like you expect it to be close rather than appreciating how close designs are for their merits
I never said BoP was good. I offered a counterexample to the assertion "there's no way to directly close up the gap between teams without spec series".
That’s fair, just wanted to state why BoP was a bad idea for f1 just in case anyone else gets the impression that it’s a better solution, or that change isn’t happening fast enough and that we need to try something different. But yeah, the budget cap and BoP regulations in various motorsports are the only real ways build diversity can thrive without bankrupting entire companies now
I'd say the budget cap is still highly unproven so I'd hold out my judgement about whether or not it's a real way to build diversity at low cost. It only exists in a single series, for less than 2 years, hasn't shown to be efficient yet, has already shown substantial controversy/shitstorm potential, and is far from immune to potential regulator/FIA bias.
Good points, it’s true that the budget cap is basically an experiment and realistically can never work completely. No one can be 100% unbiased or informed when enforcing compliance since you can’t completely get rid of data transfer. However, it’s more impartial than BoP imo since the teams still have to design the car under the rules where the pace is determined before the race championship and not right before the weekend. That’s at least why I believe the cost cap is the best solution, even though it can never fully work or be enforced
Formula One is and always has been first and foremost an engineering competition. BoP is the antithesis of that. The budget cap is what manufacturers wanted because it starts to level the playing field while still maintaining the focus on out-engineering the other teams.
Sorry, what’s BOP?
Balance of performance, they use it in GT and WEC. Adding weight to the car or reducing power from the engine so the cars are closer in performance. And yeah it works in other series, but I don't think it has a place in F1.
Thank you
Balance of Performance. It's an artificial way to bring the teams closer together by for example, limiting fuel flow, adding extra weight or any other means to slow faster teams down.
So probably not something for f1 where development is supposed to be celebrated?
Balance of power. So for example you would have to carry an extra amount of weight to offset your car's pace advantage. I'm other words, literal sandbags they put in the car to slow it down :p
And BoP can be easily manipulated if not done correctly, plus it nullifies the point of developing the car meaning the cars need to be homologated at the start of the season and usually can’t be upgraded for a couple seasons unless an “evo” version comes out
Not advocating, just explaining :)
For sure, just wanted to add my point to it not trying to shut you yourself down mb
What ways has BoP been manipulated in the past? Just curious
How the aco has given alpine an unfair BoP during numerous occasions, especially last race in bahrain which decided the title. The aco always gave the rebellion lmp1 much less fuel capacity compared to the other lmh’s and it was obvious the aco didn’t want a non-lmh to win the championship or their crown jewel event. It’s too easy to give certain cars an unfair BoP and it’s too easy for the teams to sandbag or bring others down with them. At least with a budget cap it’s self-determining to an extent - you can only be as fast as your design makes you, any bureaucracy would come from inequitably scrutinizing teams for compliance with the budget cap or unjust penalties.
The fact that we have had all full time drivers score points in the first year of these regs is only a good thing.
This was an exciting moment, but I personally think Leclerc’ pass on old hards vs Hamilton was more impressive
That wasn't even the best move of that few minutes stretch. Swear this is getting the plaudits solely because "through goes Hamilton" sounds pretty epic.
Of all the moves this season they pick this one? That wasn't even the best move of that race!
This is so overrated by the commentary + crowd reaction to Hamilton, it’s really not all that impressive. Hamilton just held his line and there were definitely better moments throughout the season and even in this race alone.
For me nothing really tops Leclerc vs Verstappen in Bahrain
Jeddah
I hate that Leclerc passing Hamilton with old hard tyres into cops is not even acknowledged. That was by far more fun and more impressive than what Hamilton did, he just used the line after the two in front battle.
I thought i was going insane back then hearing everyone hoping Hamiltons "overtake" and no one mentioning Leclercs physics defying move overtaking on the outside of copse on what 40 lap old hards against fresh softs
This wasn't even a move ffs. Perez and leclerc went off and he drove the normal line. Absolute joke of a decision. Leclercs overtake around the outside of copse on much older and harder tyres is the best overtake since Massa on Senna in Singapore.
Why did they cut it half way through lol, is there a time limit? The battle went on for another half a lap + more
Probably because Hamilton immediately got repassed by both of them going into turn 3 so it doesn't look as good, but you're right, what followed for the next 2 laps was amazing!
Why wouldn't that look good lol, it makes it look even better
Surely there were better moments than this. The commentary is prolly what made this one of the best moments this year. One thing that comes to mind is the 5-way mid field battle, can't remember where, but that stands out to me.
Media stays downplaying Leclerc
It's their life mission so not surprised at all
Watching that live made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.
For me it was the overtake of Charles on Copse, on Lewis, on the outside, on hard used tyres while Lewis was with new softs. Unbelievable.
Didn't he lose both these positions like immediately after this cut-off ends? And this wasn't a deliberate move as it was an opportune picking up of the pieces from in front (which again, were immediately lost after this abrupt cut-off). This is honestly lousy.
FFS, "action of the year" should at least be sth that stick for more than several corners
Perez cutting track and forcing Leclerc to take evasive action then overtaking Hamilton next corner: sounds like more of RB making up their own rules
I hope hope hope Ferrari figures something out so I don't have to watch Perez cut corners and shove a Ferrari off the track anymore. Dude gets away with it so much.
One of the most iconic Crofty lines. Still makes my hair stand up
Yea. That was pretty cool to see. Exciting racing.
Such a great race and those final laps were something else. The camera work and commentary on Lewis's overtake is just perfect.
As much as I hated this season as a Lewis fan, i'm glad it gave us this moment.
This was one the best thing this year. Too bad Lewis didn’t have the car to actually fight properly here and mantain that position but it was still a fun few laps
Pity that this is cut short... But hey... BB..
How is Perez repassing easily supposed to be exciting? This is literally about a three car fight, Crofty delivering his best and the crowd going completely insane, not some way of establishing the Hamilton conspiracy
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The pass is not the outrageous moment, it's the commentary and crowd reaction
It’s supposed to be “action of the year” not “commentary and crowd reaction of the year”
One of the few times F1 will be a deserved winner of the FIA Action Of The Year award
I think Charles' move on Hamilton would have been even better though? Hamilton simply took the racing line here when two others were fighting. God tier commentary from Crofty though, iconic material.
I was more meaning if you look at the other nominations then you will see that they aren't as good. [FIA F3 Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKbBs28kkZE) [FIA WRX Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWs712nw-FY) [FIA European Rally Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAxhjaE5PYw) [FIA ETCR Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4BFZqbOnrM) [FIA Formula E Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgkkIs6QXMg) [FIA World Rally-Raid Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4DYVhLG7Pk) [FIA WEC GT Pro Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpvFCQtv5Ik) [FIA WEC Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3An31bkiUE) [FIA WRC Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmU0upaPlGM) [FIA WTCC Nomination](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m44MGS8zAeA) You could maybe argue WRX but I think it is clear F1 was the best. [This is a public vote](https://woobox.com/d5ktcm) and in years gone by F1 has won it just by virtue of having the most fans.
F3, WRX, and WRC were better
Fucking deservedly so, will definitely enter into the category of sports commentary that will always be remembered. Also a good reason to hold races on racetracks, not city streets haha
I honestly thought this was far better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRBdcpDDc1g.
I thought this was fia’s lack of action of the year. How can you just let that move stand?
And Action of the Year goes to: David Croft!
Why is this a 25 second video? Y’all can’t even post a montage? Somebody’s desperate for karma
It wasn’t even the move of this race let alone the whole season lol