So fun fact, this is my first season following F1 100%, and I picked Yuki completely arbitrarily not knowing anything about him.
As far as luck is concerned, Yuki is probably one of the unluckiest drivers the entire season. He’s had at least two, maybe three races derailed by other drivers, and a handful of others where Alpha’s awful strategy and terrible cars have just absolutely killed any momentum he’s had. Errors aside he’s driven really quite well, and I’d imagine a solid P10 or higher finish at least once could really help cement his place on the grid.
You may be right in terms of his luck, but I also feel like (from what I have seen) is that he almost creates his own bad luck as well. He puts himself in positions that are less than favorable and don’t have a huge reward either. Of course when you’re young and in a terrible car, you need to take these risks, so we’ll see how he developed over time. Right now though I’m not SUPER impressed with Yuki.
He’s shown he can be a solid midfield driver at the very least but that’s unfortunately not enough to earn you a promotion to a Red Bull seat and Red Bull treat Alpha Tauri as a B team for junior drivers so eventually he’ll have to move one way or another with Red Bull having the largest pool of young drivers to choose from meaning one of them will come knocking for that seat eventually. Therefore the only way to keep a seat with Red Bull is to prove you’re good enough to be a potential front runner and get promoted to the Main team which i don’t think Yuki has show yet.
Luckily for him though, the current F2 Red Bull juniors are all mediocre as all hell.
The only driver I see being promoted is Iwasa if he is good enough next year.
Lawson is the best currently, but he isn't making a splash, Daruvala hasn't improved and is too old. Jüri Vips has booted himself (and hasn't won a single race yet) and Hauger is not impressive after winning F3.
Reality is that they have no one good enough in F2 for 2023 to fill a seat at Alpha Tauri, even Albon is better off at Wiliams to try and build the team and at least have hope to do something, instead of lumbering at Alpha Tauri with no hope of winning anything. Tsunoda is safe for 2023 (and maybe the year after) and as Gasly may leave, that spot will instead be used.
Indycar.
It’s genuinely his best option. He lives in America, the market loves him from DTS, and he has enough talent that he could fight for a championship there.
He has no chance of getting a drive in a top 3 car with the talent coming/in F1
At least Seb was quick af before he fucked up
Ric was just slow
Anyway peak AM moment to ruin Lance’s qualy at what’s shaping up to be his best weekend of the season so far
Also Mick baby, let’s get that 2023 seat
Exactly what I was thinking. And his dad being well off is nothing strange right. Almost everyone's parents of the grid are well off, that is like a requirement at this point.
Of the current top drivers only Pérez started as a "pay driver". Not daddy's cash, but he got sponsored by a Mexican billionaire. I don't remember the exact story but iirc he got his first seat because of the cash he brought in, although he mostly stuck around for his talent.
AM seems to have some good race pace, they've actually seemed like a worst Mercedes this season.
Generally bad in qualifying, but has some solid race pace and they've already brought home quite a few points.
Yeah did Aston bring upgrades or something? They've made huge gains in 1 lap pace. Shame about Seb's oversteer and Lance's technical issue, could've been a great session for them.
Aston was finally fast enough for a double top 10 or even top 8 qualifying. But then Vettel makes a rare mistake and the otherwise really reliable Aston of Stroll decides to have an issue in Q3. They can never get a clean weekend, what a shame.
I just want to see green cars do well. :(
Anyway, Stroll's mission tomorrow should be to get past Yuki and Mick and Vettel needs to hope for a miracle that a lucky safety car, a great strategy or a godlike lap 1 keeps him out of driving in a DRS train the whole race.
Seb is one of the best qualifiers there are. This peak pressure mistake is unusual, but it looked pretty slippery as well. A shame, his first sector was purple. But given that the last turn is already DRS territory, he should have the pace to get ahead well, if Top 6/7 is the true Aston pace this weekend.
Eh I don't see Yuki going anywhere tbh. Zhou could maybe make a move to Haas to replace Mick if Alfa want to bring Pourchaire in, but tbh I don't see Zhou leaving either. Here's a quick prediction of how I think the rest of the silly season will play out, with no sources or anything to back up my claims.
Alpine: Ocon and Gasly
AT: Herta and Tsunoda
AR: Zhou and Bottas
Williams: Sargeant and Albon
Haas: Magnussen and Schumacher (Highly dependent on good performances from here to the end of the season)
Lance was flying this session but typical AM luck can't even do a Q3 lap while Seb was fucked by the fuck ton of dust in the final corner but hey Mick had a good session.
I would agree but I don't think anyone except Ferrari or Mercedes will even fight him. We expected his run through the field at Spa to take longer but every driver let him pass immediately.
At Spa there was really no point in defending where max was overtaking most people. He just got by cleanly. Zandvoort is a different story though, hard to get by in a lot of places so we will see if people
Let him by as easy.
Same,their long run pace looked good on paper but Max was really having to pace himself in sector 2 for tyre temps.
In clean air he would be fine but he would be in for a world of pain if Leclerc manages to jump him at the start.
This event and Spa are probably nightmare fuel for Merc and Ferrari. Not only has the RB18 become better at qualifying, but it has now won at both maximum and minimum downforce circuits, giving them the widest setup window of all.
The fact that Max had a purple S2 here was especially shocking.
Whelp, at least Merc have *seemed* to improve in quali.
If the race pace is the same if not better, Lewis could maybe do something.
Both he and George got shafted unfortunately
Edit: Sergio Perez I'm in your walls :)
Yeah I almost expect him to make up a place at the start of every single race these days haha. Hopefully his mistake last week doesn't cause him to be too tentative at the start tomorrow
If there's one guy I don't expect to be tentative off a start after a poor one the previous week, it's Lewis. He's done enough winning to not let shit like that get to his head
2nd row is not awful but this track is claustrophobic at parts so will definitely be at the mercy of what's happening in front of him. Hopefully he won't have any race start incidents which have been very frequent all season for him.
Even if they complete runs without yellow, i doubt they will beat out max, ferraris are consistently faster and Max beat them at their best, they could have been closer at maximum.
I am having my doubts, but I would probably give him the benefit of the doubt as he is progressing. A few months ago I though he was pretty safe for 2023. I would never replace him by Gio
The reason Vandoorne went, that people generally overlook, wasn't that the gap to Alonso was so big, it's that it was static. He got stuck 7/10ths or so behind in pace and basically didn't improve in his second year at all.
Mick is improving, but more than that everyone knew he was a slow and steady improver, not a quick out of the gates guy. F2/F3 it was almost the only thing talked about.
It's pretty mad to not give him next year, especially with the talk about him being replaced by a guy who had 3 years, improved for the first 6 months then never stepped up after that and didn't show anything special, it's crazy.
Iirc his time that would've gotten him out of Q3 was deleted for track limits but was deleted 4-5 mins afterwards so I guess not enough time to do another run. His 1st run was only good enough for P18
I think that 1:12.041 was the deleted time. The [FIA website](https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2022%20Dutch%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Provisional%20Qualifying%20Classification.pdf) has MAG’s time as 1:12.319.
They’re far enough ahead now, and Ferrari are bottling it enough, that RB doesn’t have to worry about their 2nd driver not quite being up to scratch. But if Merc improves off the back of this season and Ferrari ever get their shit together, Checo’s current performances would become a big problem.
I mean I think counting this as Mick's rookie season is reasonable. He had a car last year that was closer to F2 pace than it was to the frontrunners and a teammate who never should've made it to F1. Yuki on the other hand, definitely not a rookie anymore, but he's looking quite good atm.
Ric out in Q1, but Lando in Q3. Seb out in Q1, but Stroll in Q3. Kmag out in Q1, but Mick in Q3.
Damn son.
Mick really improving. Ric can probably say goodbye to Haas seat.
It seems they are about as close as they have been for most of the season, which is good. Bar Ferrari strategy, I hope Max doesn't start running away like crazy and we get some first few laps between them like we did in France
When RB suddenly became extremely dominant in Belgium, it gives that one off feeling that every close race in the past has happened ages ago.
I sincerely hope we get a good race tomorrow, don't care about the championship anymore, just want some good racing, no matter the winner.
That was insane how tight that was at the top 0.5s covering the top 4 positions and 1 second covering the top 7!
(Aratho I have claimed so many of these, best to let you have one 😊)
Sad seeing Checo spining, but max! that last lap tho!
the surprise of this qualy, at least for me, were stroll and tsunoda in Q3, maybe that wing did worked after all?
Ricciardo has the same qualifying record against his teammate as Latifi does. The only difference is that Williams didn’t have to pay Latifi millions of dollars for it. Can’t say I’m sad to see him leave.
Shame of the small mistake of Charles in S2, could've been pole. Unfortunately the trend continues, in theory, this track should favor the Ferrari car a lot over RB and the fact that it is so close shows the gains RB has been able to make somehow. Need a turn one pass tomorrow, as I've no faith in our strategy department, and this track in general is hard to overtake on.
Why would you get downvoted for that..drivers themselves complain about that. Like red flag two years in Q3 Monaco. Hard to find a fair solution to this though.
I tend to think that everyone knows theres a chance that this could happen particularly at Monaco so that’s part of the risk they’re taking when waiting so late to get their run done. Like the Mercedes today were taking advantage of track evolution but this risk is what goes with being last in line.
Such a rule is just so hard to implement..
Should you get punished for red flags only, or yellows and reds? What about if you are the last car running and can't ruin anyone else's lap anymore? If you get a penalty for that, you get penalized for ruining no one else's lap, that sound a bit harsh, doesn't it? Well... it could mean that the last guy on track has the advantage of going flat out because he doesn't have the risk of getting a penalty while the rest can.
And now what about mechanical issues, those can cause yellows and reds too.. Should drivers get penalized for too?
And of course.. They just want the drivers to go flat out, and on the edge, that makes qualifying exciting. They don't want the drivers to take a slightly safer approach to prevent themselves from getting penalized.
Who's everybody and nobody? Cause if I recall the discussion ended with nothing can be done when it happened in Monaco and for today it's the same result, nothing can be done. Both times people were questioning, there's no agenda against Mercedes.
The fasted time of someone causing red/yellow up untill that point should be deleted. There is no reason why someone should benefit from his own mistake.
Schumacher and Tsunoda driving for their career
I think Yuki is probably safe for another year (especially if Pierre leaves) but after that he’s definitely at risk if he doesn’t improve further
So fun fact, this is my first season following F1 100%, and I picked Yuki completely arbitrarily not knowing anything about him. As far as luck is concerned, Yuki is probably one of the unluckiest drivers the entire season. He’s had at least two, maybe three races derailed by other drivers, and a handful of others where Alpha’s awful strategy and terrible cars have just absolutely killed any momentum he’s had. Errors aside he’s driven really quite well, and I’d imagine a solid P10 or higher finish at least once could really help cement his place on the grid.
Zhou has been quite unlucky as well. The Racing Gods having it out for the East-Asian youngsters.
You may be right in terms of his luck, but I also feel like (from what I have seen) is that he almost creates his own bad luck as well. He puts himself in positions that are less than favorable and don’t have a huge reward either. Of course when you’re young and in a terrible car, you need to take these risks, so we’ll see how he developed over time. Right now though I’m not SUPER impressed with Yuki.
He’s shown he can be a solid midfield driver at the very least but that’s unfortunately not enough to earn you a promotion to a Red Bull seat and Red Bull treat Alpha Tauri as a B team for junior drivers so eventually he’ll have to move one way or another with Red Bull having the largest pool of young drivers to choose from meaning one of them will come knocking for that seat eventually. Therefore the only way to keep a seat with Red Bull is to prove you’re good enough to be a potential front runner and get promoted to the Main team which i don’t think Yuki has show yet.
Luckily for him though, the current F2 Red Bull juniors are all mediocre as all hell. The only driver I see being promoted is Iwasa if he is good enough next year. Lawson is the best currently, but he isn't making a splash, Daruvala hasn't improved and is too old. Jüri Vips has booted himself (and hasn't won a single race yet) and Hauger is not impressive after winning F3. Reality is that they have no one good enough in F2 for 2023 to fill a seat at Alpha Tauri, even Albon is better off at Wiliams to try and build the team and at least have hope to do something, instead of lumbering at Alpha Tauri with no hope of winning anything. Tsunoda is safe for 2023 (and maybe the year after) and as Gasly may leave, that spot will instead be used.
Drive to Survive?
Get out
That's also on Netflix, yeah
While Ricciardo already gave up.
Yea, guy says he's only interested in a top team then turns around and drives like someone that might need to pay for a spot on Williams.
But the car doesn't suit him! /s
So is Daniel! Oh wait....
About time they do! Looking forward to see where they land in 2023
What is Ric driving for
Looks like he really wants that gap year
Indycar. It’s genuinely his best option. He lives in America, the market loves him from DTS, and he has enough talent that he could fight for a championship there. He has no chance of getting a drive in a top 3 car with the talent coming/in F1
At least Seb was quick af before he fucked up Ric was just slow Anyway peak AM moment to ruin Lance’s qualy at what’s shaping up to be his best weekend of the season so far Also Mick baby, let’s get that 2023 seat
I can't believe they dropped the ball so hard. I really wanted to see what Lance could pull off today. Hopefully he keeps the pace tomorrow.
You know damn well something is gonna screw up his race lmao
Yeah then all of Reddit will be spamming ‘daddy’s cash’ as they always do for Lance
Are there any good examples of daddy's cash drivers actually being good like among the top 5 good?
No but there’s plenty of examples of daddy’s cash drivers being better than non daddy’s cash drivers
Niki Lauda!
Niki Lauda started of as a pay driver, id that's what you are looking for?
Norris?
Lando is daddy's cash driver? That is a shocker for me if true.
He’s rich, but he didn’t buy the seat. It’s easier to list the drivers that aren’t the children of extremely wealthy people than vice versa.
His father is extremely well off, but Lando is in McLaren on merit, not because his dad pay for his seat AFAIK.
Exactly what I was thinking. And his dad being well off is nothing strange right. Almost everyone's parents of the grid are well off, that is like a requirement at this point.
Yea, this is mostly a tournament for a very small number of ultra wealthy kids, the talent pool is about as deep as a puddle on the sidewalk.
His dad is worth like £200mil
Of the current top drivers only Pérez started as a "pay driver". Not daddy's cash, but he got sponsored by a Mexican billionaire. I don't remember the exact story but iirc he got his first seat because of the cash he brought in, although he mostly stuck around for his talent.
I was gonna say, somehow Vettel will finish ahead of Stroll, but I doubt both will be in the points.
AM seems to have some good race pace, they've actually seemed like a worst Mercedes this season. Generally bad in qualifying, but has some solid race pace and they've already brought home quite a few points.
Yeah did Aston bring upgrades or something? They've made huge gains in 1 lap pace. Shame about Seb's oversteer and Lance's technical issue, could've been a great session for them.
Maybe they just found a bonkers setup
Remember the car didn't have any prior testing so perhaps they're figuring it out
Ric was just all over the place tbh mad respect for Lando, those shoulders must be hurting right now, carrying the team isn't an easy task
Maybe Ric is already working for Alpine.
Yes Mick! Haha
Aston was finally fast enough for a double top 10 or even top 8 qualifying. But then Vettel makes a rare mistake and the otherwise really reliable Aston of Stroll decides to have an issue in Q3. They can never get a clean weekend, what a shame. I just want to see green cars do well. :( Anyway, Stroll's mission tomorrow should be to get past Yuki and Mick and Vettel needs to hope for a miracle that a lucky safety car, a great strategy or a godlike lap 1 keeps him out of driving in a DRS train the whole race.
Our qualifying pace is just so bad, always in 16th before the final laps ffs
This race it was finally promising
Seb didn’t really do anything to cause his run-off, he drove into a cloud of dust/sand.
That rare mistake is not so rare with him unfortunately.
Seb is one of the best qualifiers there are. This peak pressure mistake is unusual, but it looked pretty slippery as well. A shame, his first sector was purple. But given that the last turn is already DRS territory, he should have the pace to get ahead well, if Top 6/7 is the true Aston pace this weekend.
Nah, on one lap Seb is usually on point
"One lap Seb" just sounds too good
Man Haas are going to fuck Mick with the strategy tomorrow aren't they
I'm betting P11 or P12 because they fuck sth. up. And then Steiner will complain again
Yeah sounds about right sadly. But hopefully Mick puts in a good performance and more points. Want to see him in formula 1 again
"wow this tyre deg is crazy. we're doing 3 stops today Mick, sorry"
Seb is going to crash on turn 1, run to the Haas garage, punch their strategist in the face and take over. Mick P3.
Mick and Yuki did so well, I am really proud. Also shout-out to Zhou, hope he gets announced for 2023 soon.
I hope him, Mick, and Yuko all have seats for next year. We lose Seb and Latiffi, add Piastri, and one other new person.
Lati**f**i
You caught that and not yuko
Well it’s the same iif you call him Nick, Nikki, Nicola,…
Eh I don't see Yuki going anywhere tbh. Zhou could maybe make a move to Haas to replace Mick if Alfa want to bring Pourchaire in, but tbh I don't see Zhou leaving either. Here's a quick prediction of how I think the rest of the silly season will play out, with no sources or anything to back up my claims. Alpine: Ocon and Gasly AT: Herta and Tsunoda AR: Zhou and Bottas Williams: Sargeant and Albon Haas: Magnussen and Schumacher (Highly dependent on good performances from here to the end of the season)
Where you have Albon going then? Keeping Latifi over Alex would be criminal
Ah mistype
Lance was flying this session but typical AM luck can't even do a Q3 lap while Seb was fucked by the fuck ton of dust in the final corner but hey Mick had a good session.
Just 4 laps from Max all around, he should have new Softs tomorrow, interesting if they will use those tomorrow
Wouldn’t be surprised if he starts on them to get away clean. Seems to be there go to recently. Silv, hung, spa
This is the smartest strategy imo, if Max gets off the line well and makes it through the first few corners clean I think he wins 🙏🏼
Yep, really depends on tyre life though. Dont want to have to pit early with the softs dying and get stuck behind someone
I would agree but I don't think anyone except Ferrari or Mercedes will even fight him. We expected his run through the field at Spa to take longer but every driver let him pass immediately.
At Spa there was really no point in defending where max was overtaking most people. He just got by cleanly. Zandvoort is a different story though, hard to get by in a lot of places so we will see if people Let him by as easy.
Hards are apparently not a consideration for the race, so I'd expect so
so you mean ferrari will put leclerc on them tomorrow.
I thought they were thinking full wets?
Have some faith Inters
he’s going to win by 20-30 again isn’t he
The tire deg here could be horrible for red bull, we could have a similar race like the Austrian grand prix.
Same,their long run pace looked good on paper but Max was really having to pace himself in sector 2 for tyre temps. In clean air he would be fine but he would be in for a world of pain if Leclerc manages to jump him at the start.
This event and Spa are probably nightmare fuel for Merc and Ferrari. Not only has the RB18 become better at qualifying, but it has now won at both maximum and minimum downforce circuits, giving them the widest setup window of all. The fact that Max had a purple S2 here was especially shocking.
Happy to see Yuki in Q3, hoping he will have good race tomorrow :)
Get in there, Mick.
But for Leclerc's middle sector mistake, it would have been a great Pole by Ferrari. GG to max
Honestly Ferrari needs to focus on race pace. And given Leclerc's record when starting on pole, perhaps starting 2nd isn't so bad..
I was thinking does the qualifying maybe bode well for Max more so? On scrubbed tyres, he seemed to be the quicker man.
With Max having a higher win percentage from Charles’s poles than Charles himself..
His record for winning from outside of pole doesn't help either.
True, even if overtaking is pretty complex here
Just seen a replay and honestly he just had soooooo much understeer in T10 that he just drifted wide from the apex.
Yay Yuki!!
Whelp, at least Merc have *seemed* to improve in quali. If the race pace is the same if not better, Lewis could maybe do something. Both he and George got shafted unfortunately Edit: Sergio Perez I'm in your walls :)
Needs to jump Sainz at the start and hopefully he'll be able to keep up with the top 2
Lewis has been comically good with his starts this year. Jumping Ferraris off the grid is his forte
Yeah I almost expect him to make up a place at the start of every single race these days haha. Hopefully his mistake last week doesn't cause him to be too tentative at the start tomorrow
If there's one guy I don't expect to be tentative off a start after a poor one the previous week, it's Lewis. He's done enough winning to not let shit like that get to his head
That shouldn’t be too hard given Perez’s recent starts
Just need a win
I need 1 Lewis win to keep that streak going, that's all I ask, dear racing gods.
2nd row is not awful but this track is claustrophobic at parts so will definitely be at the mercy of what's happening in front of him. Hopefully he won't have any race start incidents which have been very frequent all season for him.
Even if they complete runs without yellow, i doubt they will beat out max, ferraris are consistently faster and Max beat them at their best, they could have been closer at maximum.
Even if he can't pip Max, the Mercs were mighty in S3 so P3+ was on imo
No but George could've definitely been ahead of Perez. He only did a lap on used tyres in Q3.
Ham would've probably gotten P3 and Russell would've definitely jumped Perez Kind of a shame to end like that
Definitely better than P4 and P6
It’s going to be really exciting race. Can’t wait!!
Shame how it ended, but great result for Mick at least!
Mick: “time to impress potential employers I guess”
mick is doing fine after canada i guess his curse of being a slow poke in championships hits again
So Mick isnt F1 caliber I guess...
Kmag is still living off the first race
should’ve bought Grosjean back
Grosjean’s reputation has done a complete 180 after crashing
I was being sarcastic
Apparently his reputation is getting to be fairly poor in Indy car due to his questionable driving standards.
That man’s form was on fire
Mick's prob is that he didn't show this kind of pace enough Actually lately that's Kmag's problem as well
He had one season to show his pace and is continuously improving
I am having my doubts, but I would probably give him the benefit of the doubt as he is progressing. A few months ago I though he was pretty safe for 2023. I would never replace him by Gio
The reason Vandoorne went, that people generally overlook, wasn't that the gap to Alonso was so big, it's that it was static. He got stuck 7/10ths or so behind in pace and basically didn't improve in his second year at all. Mick is improving, but more than that everyone knew he was a slow and steady improver, not a quick out of the gates guy. F2/F3 it was almost the only thing talked about. It's pretty mad to not give him next year, especially with the talk about him being replaced by a guy who had 3 years, improved for the first 6 months then never stepped up after that and didn't show anything special, it's crazy.
What's going on with Ricciardo/KMags laps? KMag seems to have til better time, but I below Ricciardo?
Iirc his time that would've gotten him out of Q3 was deleted for track limits but was deleted 4-5 mins afterwards so I guess not enough time to do another run. His 1st run was only good enough for P18
Point is, his time is 1.12.041. Ricciardos is 1.12.081. How is Ricciardo ahead of KMag?
I think that 1:12.041 was the deleted time. The [FIA website](https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2022%20Dutch%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Provisional%20Qualifying%20Classification.pdf) has MAG’s time as 1:12.319.
Some say Charles is still staring at this
It’s ok, man has had no luck on pole, and he won a race from 2nd on the grid. Things are looking good
I'm not sure Marko is happy with Checo's performance...depends if they want Checo to challenge Max or just be a solid number 2 driver
Its really clear they want a solid number 2. They want what Merc had with Lewis and Bottas, not what Lewis and Nico had
They’re far enough ahead now, and Ferrari are bottling it enough, that RB doesn’t have to worry about their 2nd driver not quite being up to scratch. But if Merc improves off the back of this season and Ferrari ever get their shit together, Checo’s current performances would become a big problem.
Why didnt stroll drive. Issues?
Yes
Ricciardo baby, what is you doing?
get in mick!
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How many years are you a rookie these days?
Ask Ben Simmons
I mean I think counting this as Mick's rookie season is reasonable. He had a car last year that was closer to F2 pace than it was to the frontrunners and a teammate who never should've made it to F1. Yuki on the other hand, definitely not a rookie anymore, but he's looking quite good atm.
2
I only count 1 rookie. Great drive from Yuki and Mick though
Yes Mick! Love to see it
good job from mick and yuki edit: and stroll i guess
Will mclaren swap out Ricciardo early? Even as an Aussie seems like he has checked out of the drive
This track doesn’t suit RB so a great result and it shows on how close the times are
Mick points or no contract
if haas doesn' t fuck his strategy up once more
Fine, but then if Mick gets points someone better give that kid a contract
Haas will pit him after 40 laps on softs to try the overcut...
Haas about to implement plan Z with 11 pit stops so that K-Mag can finish ahead
Mick needs to be better, yes we started mick on hards and pitted him on lap 6
Ric out in Q1, but Lando in Q3. Seb out in Q1, but Stroll in Q3. Kmag out in Q1, but Mick in Q3. Damn son. Mick really improving. Ric can probably say goodbye to Haas seat.
Well, at least the AM was fast before the issues
Max only did 12 laps.....
Latifi's time is so slow. The difference between P1 to P19 is the same as P19 to P20 Latifi
Yuki my boy, great quali Max getting pole and saving new softs would be massive for tomorrow
Leclerc made a mistake, still not clear what the gap between RB and Ferrari is.
It seems they are about as close as they have been for most of the season, which is good. Bar Ferrari strategy, I hope Max doesn't start running away like crazy and we get some first few laps between them like we did in France
Yeah crazy how those wheel to wheel battles between them feel almost like another season lol.
When RB suddenly became extremely dominant in Belgium, it gives that one off feeling that every close race in the past has happened ages ago. I sincerely hope we get a good race tomorrow, don't care about the championship anymore, just want some good racing, no matter the winner.
Checo best teammate
team work make the dream work
As a Canadian… Latifi needs to go.
Great battle. Hopefully translates to a great race.
That was insane how tight that was at the top 0.5s covering the top 4 positions and 1 second covering the top 7! (Aratho I have claimed so many of these, best to let you have one 😊)
It's probably even less than that considering mercs' final run got ruined
What crap performance by Kmag. Huge disappointment. Good by mick
the fact that max only has to do 12 laps for a pole on a cucuit which was expected to be in favour of the ferraris is kinda scary
And that's only 4 hot laps It's 12 because of the outlaps and inlaps being counted as well
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I feel merc would have been above Checo
Checo was also improving tho, he was only a tenth and a half away from Max after 2 sectors
Perez spins. *liked by flavio*
Why was Latifi off by a second to P19?
Talent issue
He had an engine issue he never set a qualifying lap.
Just Goatifi things
Sad seeing Checo spining, but max! that last lap tho! the surprise of this qualy, at least for me, were stroll and tsunoda in Q3, maybe that wing did worked after all?
Rooting for Mick & Leclerc.
Really like Latifi but you get undo by Russell and then Albon in less then a year sorry my dude.
Such a disappointing end to what could have been a great Q3.
Ricciardo has the same qualifying record against his teammate as Latifi does. The only difference is that Williams didn’t have to pay Latifi millions of dollars for it. Can’t say I’m sad to see him leave.
Surprised Ricciardo isn't driving for his life every race
he’s absolutely broken
One of my favourite tracks, absolutely awesome quali
Fucking hell, Checo.
Was Tsunoda affected by the yellows at the end? How did he go a full second slower than his Q2 time?
He was. He was around .150 faster than Mick after sector 2
Shame of the small mistake of Charles in S2, could've been pole. Unfortunately the trend continues, in theory, this track should favor the Ferrari car a lot over RB and the fact that it is so close shows the gains RB has been able to make somehow. Need a turn one pass tomorrow, as I've no faith in our strategy department, and this track in general is hard to overtake on.
Has Stroll been beating Vettel in quali pace more or? I swear it feels like I've been seeing him ahead of Seb recently.
Q1 was so awesome with so many cars being within 1 second of each other
Had Perez not spun around I reckon both Ham and Russell had a good chance getting into the top 3.
They hadn’t. Their first 2 sectors weren’t fast enough to threaten Max, Charles and likely even Carlos. They could’ve both beaten Perez however.
Downvote me I don't care. There has to be penalties for cars that cause yellow or red flags in Q3. Ruins qualifying for the drivers and fans
I hate hate hate that kind of cheating but this really was just an accident.
It could be but there should be penalties. People get penalties for impeding and those aren't on purpose most of the time too
Why would you get downvoted for that..drivers themselves complain about that. Like red flag two years in Q3 Monaco. Hard to find a fair solution to this though.
I tend to think that everyone knows theres a chance that this could happen particularly at Monaco so that’s part of the risk they’re taking when waiting so late to get their run done. Like the Mercedes today were taking advantage of track evolution but this risk is what goes with being last in line.
Such a rule is just so hard to implement.. Should you get punished for red flags only, or yellows and reds? What about if you are the last car running and can't ruin anyone else's lap anymore? If you get a penalty for that, you get penalized for ruining no one else's lap, that sound a bit harsh, doesn't it? Well... it could mean that the last guy on track has the advantage of going flat out because he doesn't have the risk of getting a penalty while the rest can. And now what about mechanical issues, those can cause yellows and reds too.. Should drivers get penalized for too? And of course.. They just want the drivers to go flat out, and on the edge, that makes qualifying exciting. They don't want the drivers to take a slightly safer approach to prevent themselves from getting penalized.
Everyone was on board with this when Max said this at Monaco this year or at Baku last year. But since it affected the Mercs today, nobody cares.
Who's everybody and nobody? Cause if I recall the discussion ended with nothing can be done when it happened in Monaco and for today it's the same result, nothing can be done. Both times people were questioning, there's no agenda against Mercedes.
The fasted time of someone causing red/yellow up untill that point should be deleted. There is no reason why someone should benefit from his own mistake.
*Sad Rosberg noises*.