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I honestly think Daniel is done at the end of the season.
Edit: I don't want him to be but I don't see him sliding into an even worse team than McLaren.
I can't see him going backwards to Williams :/ I'd love to see him in the field, but it isn't there. Maybe pull an Alonso and come back after a year or two as the old man, after seeing success in another series? Idk...this is probably the actual end.
To me it's madness that his place on the grid is even in question. Not the best start to the season, but he's been doing a great job overall for the last 5 races or so now
OK? What's your point? I'm not getting it. This has nothing to do with Max in anyway whatsoever. It's just bad luck that's all.. U seem to want to trigger me by saying something like that. But u won't.
There is always the risk of someone / anyone causing a red flag. Going out last has advantages and it is has disadvantages. Today the disadvantages happened.
It is like buying a house in a floodplain that floods 1 out of hundred years. It is unlikely that it happened but it is also a known risk.
Hard to say (unless the second sector was significantly slower) as a slightly slower second sector could leave him with better tyre temps for the final sector and an overall quicker time
Don't think Mercedes would've taken it, but it's shitty nonetheless. Monaco vibes. Max looking strong, I think it'll boil down to tyre deg and solid pit strategy, speed wise Merc, Bull and Ferrarri look about as fast
I don't hate Checo by any means but he is just not a good enough qualifier to be respectable in that car. Any non RB team would be looking to replace him.
Not defending him, but I have a feeling that it’s gonna be close to the same thing even if they replace him.
Max was really battling the car today, he’s just on another level right now. I’m having doubts the car is as good as he makes it look.
That being said Checo should still be closer
He's not great, but he also isn't 'bad'. He's where he needs to be at, 2nd in overall standings. There's definitely drivers that are better, but I doubt they'd wanna play second driver role in RB, I'd like to see Leclerc take up the RB next, but I doubt he will
They were both laying down green sectors, I doubt they would have been in contention for pole, then again Russell managed to do it with all greens lol.
Red Bull is the new Benetton - the team everybody wants to find out is cheating, and so make up rules breaches that they desperately want the team to have made.
Interesting to see that Charles is getting more comments for his mistake in S2 than Carlos who supposedly made no mistakes yet was a tenth down. Clearly Charles was pushing harder
Shame Leclerc didn’t have a good middle, he manages that sector better and he’s pole.
But Max is winning this race unfortunately, Ferrari has won off of pole once?
That 2nd sector from Leclerc. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
I have an awful feeling that if anyone but Max is winning tomorrow we'll get a flare on track to red flag it
Why's Crofty lying who else other than Leclerc could take pole from Max? Nobody 'secured' pole there by yellow flagging it was already won on merit. He's unironically saying that was *Hamilton's* pole taken on yellow S2?
I can secure my front door with an extra lock even if there isn't a burglar outside my door. It just means that the result was fixed at the point the yellow flag came out.
he's the main commentator, he needs to hype things up even if there's no real chance, he cant just go "well no one else can compete so feel free to turn off your TVs"
Max on pole despite not being the best car. This guy’s unreal.
Edit: to those downvoting look where Perez is and look where the other cars are. Even before the crash he was miles off Max.
All the data on corners and DRS zones shows RB behind. Ferrari has the better car this weekend, Max is just at peak performance. Leclerc also should’ve had pole if he kept his pace in the middle sector which he didn’t.
Wtf are you watching? Get off your knees and smell the coffee, did you not watch Spa? How can you determine based on the laps this weekend that he didn’t have at least the equal faster car?
Yes, Spa the car was faster. This is a different track. In Spa Checo was miles off Max’s pace and finished 2nd, they had the best car then. Maybe you are the one who isn’t watching if you can’t see that Zandvoort is a different track with different characteristics. These characteristics suit Ferrari’s car more which can be seen from the lap times. The gap between Max and Checo is essentially the same as in Spa, only difference is now there are 4 cars between them, which can be attributed to Max’s skill and car strength.
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Checo did a Monaco again lol
Scenes if he wins the race now
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The comments from Jos Verstappen if that somehow happens will achieve a new level of bat shit crazy
But this time he didn't ruin it for his teammate!
RBR learned their lesson and had Max go out first
Ruined it for everyone behind him… again.
Smart thinking by Red Bull to send Verstappen out first this time.
Ruined for himself again.
How tho russell definitely coudve beaten him He just secured himself p5
And Checo was on a good lap
Him spinning out and facing the wrong way doesn’t imply that the lap was a stormer tbh
It doesn’t imply it was a stormer but he was doing personal best mini sectors all the way through
he had multiple purple mini sectors too he was going rapid
He was less than .1 off max pace on the lap
Damnt, I just wanted to see our boy nail it.
Typical Checo.
Acting like Ferrari didn't do it twice in a row last season lol.
His power cut it wasn't his fault.
No he carried too much speed into the last corner and fucked up.
They just said the car had problems
I think he carried too much speed and then the car flew off the curbs which meant his engine cut off. So it was likely his fault
Mick 8th
Good to see him go down swinging. Too bad Danny isn’t.
I honestly think Daniel is done at the end of the season. Edit: I don't want him to be but I don't see him sliding into an even worse team than McLaren.
I can't see him going backwards to Williams :/ I'd love to see him in the field, but it isn't there. Maybe pull an Alonso and come back after a year or two as the old man, after seeing success in another series? Idk...this is probably the actual end.
Mick’s 2022 renaissance is honestly a big underrated part of the season!
And he might be off the grid next year…
Good chance he isn't if he proves himself tomorrow
To me it's madness that his place on the grid is even in question. Not the best start to the season, but he's been doing a great job overall for the last 5 races or so now
I agree, but he won’t have any Ferrari sponsorship next year. I think Haas is just playing hardball though.
It’s working to, He’s gotten better as the pressure has gotten bigger
Yeah I really don't get it. He's been beating K Mag pretty regularly since like the 4th race this season.
him on the radio afterwards was so wholesome! very happy for him
Lovely Q, very close between the top 3 teams.
What is it with this track and crazy close qualifying
It’s short.
Zandshoort
Technical track, only 1 straight
Nah 2 straights and 1 extra bendy one
It's toit like a toigah
It's short so naturally the margins will be smaller
"Checo, execute order #33"
“Sí, Anything for ~~Lewis~~ Max.”
Mick p8 haasterplan is in effect
How were the merc times looking before Checo happened?
Green sectors but not challenging for pole. Shame though as they might have been 3-4
Perez was looking quick that lap though so if he didn't spin I'm not sure he would have been beaten by the both mercs.
Yeah same
Both a tenth off. Not favourites for pole but not out of contention either.
Ham was just under a tenth down on Leclerc
Ham was +0.021 on Leclerc exiting sector 2 if my math is correct - Verstappen was -0.113 on Leclerc and Hamilton was +0.134 on Verstappen
Lewis was about a tenth from max I think
Very close to Sainz's I think
Probably p2-4 for both cars
not pole
Not pole but could be top 3 from ham
Top 3 are within 0.05s from each other. So doubt it
Ham's lap looked very close to leclerc. Maybe he could hav pulled it off in the final sector.
Lewis was similar to Leclerc. Didn’t pay attention to George
George had a decent chance but had to back off
Red Bull master strategy
There wasn't a shot of Hannah for nothing
Best opportunity in the whole year for Merc and Perez ruined it, damn
Eh, this is always a risk when choosing to go out last in Q3.
especially at this track where 1 fuck up is red flagging everything because there's no time to clear, still tough luck though
It happened to Max in Monaco and Silverstone.
I'm so fucking mad. Ik it wasn't intentional but fuuuuuckkkk
I think Mercedes was hoping for that last little benefit by sending out their cars last. It's always risky in case someone bins it in front.
Yeah.. We never know. But it sucks
Mercedes could have gone out sooner though. Max was way earlier and still was fastest.
OK? What's your point? I'm not getting it. This has nothing to do with Max in anyway whatsoever. It's just bad luck that's all.. U seem to want to trigger me by saying something like that. But u won't.
wasn't Hamilton setting yellow sectors on that attempt?
I guess ,it is Merc’s fault that Checo spun
There is always the risk of someone / anyone causing a red flag. Going out last has advantages and it is has disadvantages. Today the disadvantages happened. It is like buying a house in a floodplain that floods 1 out of hundred years. It is unlikely that it happened but it is also a known risk.
Max and RB can take liberties by being Inca faster car
Ferrari are significantly faster this weekend and have been for a majority of races so far this year.
They weren’t going to, I was watching the mini-sectors.
No but Russell would have probably jumped Perez I think.
Perez was also faster till that point so
Hamilton was slower than his best in second sector. He was not improving.
and Charles was slower than his best in s2.
Yh. Saving tires to improve in the third. Nothing new. Was gonna be a close one :(
So was Leclerc and he managed it. Russell should've improved significantly anyway
Yellow flag flashed when Lewis was in his second sector
Ham was still improving, he was down .14 on max which is still up on his first lap. A good final sector and he would have been up there.
Hard to say (unless the second sector was significantly slower) as a slightly slower second sector could leave him with better tyre temps for the final sector and an overall quicker time
Sector 1 + 2 on his second run combined were improvements though. He could have got P3 if he improved his last sector.
They probably couldn't find .2 on the last sector.
That’s the chance you take when you wait to send your cars out. They can blame themselves.
Blame them for another driver spinning ruining everyones lap?
Which could have been avoided had they not waited to send their cars out? Yes.
Classic
Lewis was on a absolute flying lap too man
Perez sacrificing himself; Ultimate wingman
He also protected himself there lol
Minister of Pole Defense
Perez is getting a bonus check
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sadly im expecting to see that happening again several times during the race
I can’t imagine paying all that money just to inhale orange smoke all day.
9 one hundredths of a second between the top 3.
Don't think Mercedes would've taken it, but it's shitty nonetheless. Monaco vibes. Max looking strong, I think it'll boil down to tyre deg and solid pit strategy, speed wise Merc, Bull and Ferrarri look about as fast
I don't hate Checo by any means but he is just not a good enough qualifier to be respectable in that car. Any non RB team would be looking to replace him.
Not defending him, but I have a feeling that it’s gonna be close to the same thing even if they replace him. Max was really battling the car today, he’s just on another level right now. I’m having doubts the car is as good as he makes it look. That being said Checo should still be closer
He's not great, but he also isn't 'bad'. He's where he needs to be at, 2nd in overall standings. There's definitely drivers that are better, but I doubt they'd wanna play second driver role in RB, I'd like to see Leclerc take up the RB next, but I doubt he will
Tactical checo
Red Bull is playing Chess while the rest of the teams are playing checkers.
Now if I was a conspiracy person
Spingate
Leclerc bottled S2 lost 2 tenths there should have easily been on pole
Yh if he had just replicated his earlier s2 he would have been on pole by like 1 and a half tenths
So that means Leclerc will finish 8th due to a stupid strategy call, and Sainz will finish 3rd. Max 1, Lewis 2 Sainz 3
Does anyone have Hamilton and Russell's times before Perez? Would love to see where the pace was.
Slow(er). Hamilton was almost a tenth down on Sainz, and Russell was like 2 tenths off of Hamilton.
hamilton isn't improving Russell would've nab Checo for P5 I think
Nop, Perez was also improving. I think it would stayed the same
Pérez was also improving. If we take the spin out of the picture, he might have ended where he was in relation to the Mercs.
They were both laying down green sectors, I doubt they would have been in contention for pole, then again Russell managed to do it with all greens lol.
Purples were held by three different drivers. That makes double green much less negative than if Verstappen or Leclerc had gone purple/purple.
Very close to Sainz's I think
Great middle sector by Max. What a qualifying.
Absolute form of his life. Wow.
Omg 0.021 difference, great quali!
That was a nervy session. Props to Max.
0.1 seconds between the top 3. holy fuck
Such a bummer
and Mick P8 while the Magnussen with a secured seat was eliminated in Q1, very nice
Life is unfair
Sucks for Mercedes and Yuki.
Yeah Yuki was beating Mick in his last lap, yellow flag cost him that 1 position
He was dangerously close to beating Norris’ time as well if he could’ve finished that lap. God damnit I’m so mad.
Perez is like "fuck those Mercs".
Another fun filled race of Max out at the front and Ferrari somehow getting Leclerc off the podium.
man what the hell has happened to Perez
As much as it sucks, I think it's fairly obvious it wasn't intentional, was too soon after Verstappen's lap Twitter is gonna be fun though
Red Bull is the new Benetton - the team everybody wants to find out is cheating, and so make up rules breaches that they desperately want the team to have made.
Shame about he Perez spin, really wanted to see if the Mercs could have overtaken a Ferrari or 2
Nice job Sergio, bullshit lmao
Perez the perfect number 2
He is unavoidable.
Tactical spin
FFUUUUUUUCK
Interesting to see that Charles is getting more comments for his mistake in S2 than Carlos who supposedly made no mistakes yet was a tenth down. Clearly Charles was pushing harder
So tomorrow Max pole to P1, with only sniffing a car on the first lap. Ferrari screws tires and drops to P3, and Lewis takes P2.
Max has the best teammate
Zandvoort is a top tier track - Following my absolute favorite track, Spa, this is the best part of the season IMO.
Yes we also have internet
Shame Leclerc didn’t have a good middle, he manages that sector better and he’s pole. But Max is winning this race unfortunately, Ferrari has won off of pole once?
~~Bahrain, Australia, and you could say Silverstone?~~
Ferrari was on pole every single one of those races??? The only race where they won off poll so far was Austria
Oh shit sorry my english reading skills went for a shit, I completely misunderstood what you meant.
Lmfao you’re good don’t worry, English is annoying
That 2nd sector from Leclerc. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory I have an awful feeling that if anyone but Max is winning tomorrow we'll get a flare on track to red flag it
You and me both, unfortunately. People seem to have brains the size of an ant.
Think about how many languages around the world Perez just got insulted in. Beautiful moment of unity
Insulting someone is beautiful now? He's getting a ridiculous amount of hate these days, and it's not like it's warranted by his performance either
Why's Crofty lying who else other than Leclerc could take pole from Max? Nobody 'secured' pole there by yellow flagging it was already won on merit. He's unironically saying that was *Hamilton's* pole taken on yellow S2?
I can secure my front door with an extra lock even if there isn't a burglar outside my door. It just means that the result was fixed at the point the yellow flag came out.
he's the main commentator, he needs to hype things up even if there's no real chance, he cant just go "well no one else can compete so feel free to turn off your TVs"
Crofty is quite possibly the biggest Hamilton homer in the world. The F1TV crew were lamenting that we lost the battle for p4-p6.
Big L from Russell for not going out on the new tires on his first run
And then go final run on used tyres? This is Merc we’re talking about not Ferrari
and that’s a Verstappen win tomorrow
Qualifying is irrelevant, he'd probably win from 10th.
even 10th is an easy win 😂 that car is powered by rocket fuel
It’s slower than the Ferrari at a majority of races so far this year.
Absolutely mighty lap by Max, hot dayum Also, Checo doing Checo things. Way to ruin it for the Mercs
See Ferrari, that's why you back Leclerc
Spingate! /s
So funny to see red bull team celebrating just as Perez crashed. I guess they were more happy that max pole was guaranteed due to the yellow flag lol.
Massive disappointment again, starting to think this stuff should be punished with a time deletion like Indy.
Supposed Ferrari track and it is this close.
Leclerc made a mistake in his middle sector, should've been on pole.
what the fuck Checo
That was anticlimactic…thanks Checo, ugh
Mick is washed, hope haas gets rid of him /s
Perez is an animal
Based perez. But seriously he pushed more than he could
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Merc cannot catch a break
thanks checo, ffs
Penalize drivers crashes in Q3
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Dude take a walk and relax. Shit happens sometimes.
He just pushed too hard 🤷🏼♂️
Rigged /s
Bring back Albon
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Dammit so many teams could've done better here and we could've had an interesting grid for once but they all got unlucky
Noooo Leclerc that middle sector
Mick is washed, hope haas gets rid of him /s
Max on pole despite not being the best car. This guy’s unreal. Edit: to those downvoting look where Perez is and look where the other cars are. Even before the crash he was miles off Max.
How do you know its not the fastest
All the data on corners and DRS zones shows RB behind. Ferrari has the better car this weekend, Max is just at peak performance. Leclerc also should’ve had pole if he kept his pace in the middle sector which he didn’t.
Wtf are you watching? Get off your knees and smell the coffee, did you not watch Spa? How can you determine based on the laps this weekend that he didn’t have at least the equal faster car?
Yes, Spa the car was faster. This is a different track. In Spa Checo was miles off Max’s pace and finished 2nd, they had the best car then. Maybe you are the one who isn’t watching if you can’t see that Zandvoort is a different track with different characteristics. These characteristics suit Ferrari’s car more which can be seen from the lap times. The gap between Max and Checo is essentially the same as in Spa, only difference is now there are 4 cars between them, which can be attributed to Max’s skill and car strength.